Post and discuss western style mechs.
I see this thread going well.
>>14041480
It's a shame I lost all my images of the TV Big Guy, so have the comic version. (I won't deny Darrow's genius, but I have a soft spot for the cartoon)
>>14041480
There's really not enough western /m/ content to support how often we have these threads. I mean, I like posting Robot Jox and all, but how often do we really have new western /m/ content?
This looks like it might be a good thread to ask my questiondoes anyone have experience with the battletech tabletop? My group might do it in addition to star wars and I was wondering how much fun it'd be. My /m/ friend suggested it or fallout tabletop game
>>14041797
Oh forgot a picture
>>14041797
It's pretty fun, but combat is a bit slow. And you need at least 2d6 and some hexy maps for it.
What exactly would you like to know?
>>14041480
does power armor count?
>>14041869
>>14041882
ja
![megas-xlr-wallpapers-1024x768[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/k6h3NMW.jpg "megas-xlr-wallpapers-1024x768[1].jpg")
>>14041480
The best western mech
>>14041869
I'm more of a role player so I don't know if it's for me, when you say combat is slow. My friend within the group shared a introductory video and I got the hex maps and 2d6 part but when you say combat arrested I see a combat simulator in my head and I just think how that's not very entertaining for me.
>>14041907
Second
>>14041907
>best mech
>can't build an army
bow down bitch
>>14041908
I think you might want to check out /tg/ mate.
Battletech is a wargame, so it's not really made for roleplaying...though you still could. Or at least play out scenarios. There is a Battletech rpg somewhere, I'm not sure if it's any good.
If you're looking for a mecha rpg there's...
Cthulhutech
Adeptus Evangelion
Jovian Chronicles
Mekton Zeta (I hear it's super heavy on mechanics)
Heavy Gear
Ther'es a Robotech one somewhere
Battle Century G
>>14041939
>>14041939
Battle Century G is some good shit.
>>14041939
Yeah I had a list if /m/ tabletop games but I haven't checked it out in awhile, if at all. >>14041980
It sounds something like g gundam. How is it
>>14041980
Is it?
I've been trying to get my group into a mecha rpg, but it's been slow going.
>>14041935
You obviously haven't seen the "build an army" button.
>>14042029
I love Draconis Combine mechs. I really appreciate the unique aesthetic they bring.
It's a shame the other factions don't have their own unique look for their exclusive designs.
>>14042055
>>14041939
Have played Robotech RPG. Can confirm it's an 80's classic. Tables for everything!
...Still not as bad as the Aliens Adventure Game, though. I think there were like four tables to determine a single person's shooting for a turn. And that's before you go full auto.
>>14042097
>Tables for everything!
I'm weary already...
>>14042097
There were Gundam "mission book" RPGs, in which one player have to run a gauntlet as Char or Jerid against the others and the GM. I'm actually not sure if there is a GM.
>>14041907
gurren lagann of wester mechs
western mecha design is pretty great when it comes to human-sized stuff
>>14042491
>>14042494
>>14042484
>>14042278
> tfw play FEAR 2 & 3 for Power Armor & gone full rampage
am i the only one here?
>>14042494
>more Ronin screentime never ever
>>14041480
needs more battletech
>>14043163
the only mech you need, to be an ace.
>>14043163
The scale of the Vulture here feels really wrong. The arms and legs are clearly coming off the same production line as the Mad Kitty Mk.4, so it's torso has to be the only source of the 15 ton difference between the two.
>>14043205
maybe it was put together with whatever parts were available?
:^)
>>14043393
but those are not mechs, anon
it's a dirty word
>>14043410
the old meme that deserves to die
hello my old friend
>>14043446
ok, I agree it got old already. won't do it any more.
unless they do same shit with titanfall 2
>>14043410
No wonder Activision cut him loose. He's an idiot.
>>14043373
lol xD
>>14043446
It may be old but I still remember the slight. And it's always good to remind people of a shit developer.
>>14043837
I always wanted to play that game.
less /m/ than tokushit
>>14044001
;p
>>14043981
that's adorable
The Ground tremble every other heart beat … the sound echoed louder with each beat, and haunted your soul as if doom was approaching … and then I saw it towering in the sky, still miles away. The fear and awe one felt was indescribable. I can only image the sheer terror our enemy felt when they beheld the sight of the Warlord Titan.
-Precept Catotus, Legio Gryphonicus
>>14041487
was that sarcastic?
because you were right
>>14041908
Mechwarrior is the Battletech™ Roleplaying game. Pick up the rulebook from amazon for like four dollars, it's worth it. I'm not sure if you normally use the hexes during combat, but you could if you want.
Also, if you're a fan of Dougram, Macross, or Crusher Joe, a good number of original BT designs were straight stolen from those series.
Anyway BT is not itself an RPG but its great for scenarios and it can accompany a game of Mechwarrior or an equivalent SciFi RPG fairly easily.
>>14041939
Personally, for a mech combat RPG, I would pick RIFTS. It's got really unique designs and a whole two pages of cockpit and diagram info for the Glitterboy mech (in the first book alone!)
>>14044544
Not technically stolen.
The rights to use them were purchased from a company that said they had them but turns out several months later really didn't.
>>14044351
https://youtu.be/xBU5M6HVNSg
>>14042296
I'm still mad they went with that and not the /m/ as fuck armor from the Prototype Short.
>>14044496
If nothing else, I love the lower legs and feet on those warlord titans.
>>14044644
god I love that cutscene
>>14044774
silly cygnar
What would it take the make mechs popular again?
>>14045342
Hit game, or hit movie, I guess.
>>14041939
Has Gundam Senki been translated completely?
I see bits of it on a gundam forum but don't know whether it's forth registering to get from that forum.
>>14045342
>>14045361
In the West?
Bayformers isn't helping, but it's at least opening the door and getting people used to the idea. Sci-fi movies like Edge of Tomorrow and Elysium are edging closer and closer with their power armor.
Pacific Rim 2 is the best shot I see. Most people didn't see it because the marketing was terrible and there were only a few trailers on TV. And Variety trash talked it at every turn. Coupled with sequelitis where most people don't care unless it's part of a trilogy because that's the only way it's a good movie.
I just hope it doesn't suck, since it isn't being directed by Del Toro.
This mythical unicorn Halo movie would help if it turns out the be better than that Nightfall movie.
Titanfall 2 might help, what with it actually having a single player campaign this time.
It's really kind of a crapshoot because people tend to think it's just silly kiddy cartoon shit. >>14045361 Case and point. No adult I know is going to watch something that looks like that.
>>14045418
Sorry, mate, I haven't even heard of it.
>>14043201
>totally not dougram.
Heavy Recon. Slowly but surly getting all the sweet info.
>>14045745
That's a sexy Zeus.
>>14042719
is it true what I heard about this show? that they took all the things they learned about budgeting from MEGAS and made the same mistakes all over again?
>>14045767
>>14045550
All of what you're saying is implying that it needs to become popular with adults to become popular, which is complete bullshit.
>>14045772
So many rumors why it got canned. Like no toys, etc. I'm going to go with the reason Genndy gave
>Wired: It’s safe to say you’re out of it now. But let’s go back to the massively underrated Titan. What the hell happened?
>Tartakovsky: Cartoon Network bought into the show for one reason, and when they got it, their mind changed on what they wanted the show to be. I sold it as an action show combined with a John Hughes comedy. Teenage issues and characters with amazing action, and that’s what they bought. But as we started making it, they were making Ben 10 and Generator Rex, and they wanted it to be that. And there was no way I was going to make that type of show. So they didn’t really push or support the show, we didn’t get a toy license, and that was it. It didn’t get numbers because they didn’t promote it the right way, and we didn’t get the audience that we really needed.
>>14045418
Gundam Senki is literally just Mekton rules with the Gundam license attached, and Mekton is originally an American product.
>>14045794
I disagree, but I would argue that nothing is popular or famous if it isn't a household name or my parents know about it. And in terms of movies, adults are more than half of the audience.
And let's be real here, this line of thinking isn't age specific. My neighbor's kid that's like 16 told me that he didn't see Pacific Rim because if he wanted that kind of thing he would have just watched Power Rangers. Didn't watch Godzilla because there was a new Jurassic Park coming out. And wasn't interested in Halo or Destiny because CoD looks cooler and has more games.
No joke, he's that much of an idiot and casual. But so is the general population.
Feel free to discard my opinion, I don't give a shit.
>>14045418
>>14045844
Oh, I'm retarded. I have a Gundam: The Origin pdf for this but it's too large to upload here.
>>14045888
>I have a Gundam: The Origin pdf
Does it stuff from this thread too?
http://www.gundamforums.com/showthread.php/45116-Gundam-Tabletop-Games
>>14041939
Heavy Gear is pretty cool so long as you stay away from the creation rules. It's very VOTOMS.
Jovian Chronicles is done by the same company and is pretty much Gundam.
>>14042271
sounds kind of neat
>>14041939
how much lookup is there for this one? I could be about a robo RPG.
>>14046101
Is it from some game? Google failed me on this one though.
>>14046063
I have read interview on /tg/ that creators of these game tried to make it hard sci fi as fuck,is it true?
>>14046188
Heavy Gear Assault
>>14046188
I'm pretty sure it's art of Heavy Gear mechs, as the Jaeger and Hunter are some of their most prominent models.
>>14043957
post more battlefield 2142 pls
>only thing I have thats remotely comparable
>>14041797
Honestly, playing it over Megamek is a really good way to do it.
>>14045745
>Assault Recon
>>14043205
That is pretty common for omnis.
If you look at the Vulture and Mad Cat, the Loki and Thor, the Daishi and Masakari, and a lot of other Clan omnis, they share a lot of parts like legs and torso shapes.
I don't know if that was due to out-of universe art budget restraints, but Clanners have always canonically reused a lot of the engineering amongst their omnis.
>>14046617
>Le Lyran scout lance meme
When will this die.
>>14046192
Heavy Gear is just about the most realistic mech-centric universe there is. Even the original source inspiration, VOTOMs, has its fair share of Japanese wacky.
>>14046633
My point is that the Mad Cat and the Vulture in that image are far too close in size to be 15 tons apart. The Vulture is even using a ballistic (LBX 5), so the lack of size disparity is even stranger. Consider that the Mad Cat's XXL engine should really make it's torso bulge.
The only explanation would be that the prime config Vulture Mk.4 has a lot of air inside the fat torso chassis. They are on-model but I say the models are just not well scaled in the first place.
>>14046688
>. Consider that the Mad Cat's XXL engine should really make it's torso bulge.
Not really. It has the same amount of interior room as any other heavy of that size, it just has a proportionally larger engine taking up more internal space.
>>14041797
It's soooooo much fun. Try running a Solaris 7 campaign to get everybody used to the combat and shit.
Needs a 'fuck /a/' edit.
Now since most sentai are just some guy who gets a suit with superpowers, does that make any armored SM /m/ material? Thinking about it, it makes them more /m/, since their designs are necessarily more mechanical in nature.
>>14046958
Have you ever considered that Tau Battlesuits look nothing like most Eastern mecha?
Apart from how /a/ is so shittastic they hate /m/ anyway.
>>14046974
Yeah, but that doesn't stop me from mixing and matching my gunpla whenever I can into my 40k modeling.
>>14046996
Imperial Zaku FZs proxying for Sentinels.
>>14046633
>>14046996
My Knight Household, the Knights of Evandam are literally Mecha: The Household. The heads are a mixture of various mecha heads replacing the standard knight ones, every one has back fins with a two digit number to identify the Knight on it (Knight 00 for the Household Head, Knight 01 etc), and the fluff is Pacific Rim meats Zeon.
>>14043999
>the slight
okay kid
>shit dev
they built a decently solid game with zippo budget, and supported it with constant updates, so I dunno famalambo
Killzone
>>14046258
I don't have much, but I'll try to post what I have
>>14047371
>okay kid
Respect the robot.
>multiplayer only
>not shit
You know the drill.
>>14047693
I wish there were easier ways to play this game and Septerra Core. You pretty much have to have an old Windows 98 machine with a Pentinum 3 to get them to work.
It's funny, you'd think newer machines and OSes would be able to run old games just fine.
>>14041907
>>14047816
Have you ever heard of GOG? Their versions work on anything. Septerra core's on there as well.
>>14045876
Loved that game. Favorite RTS.
>>14041882
i used to play rifts all the time when i was younger, i wish i could find another group that'd into it. fukken loved that shit so much
>>14048068
It was great stuff.
Infinity has some pretty cool mechs, but all on the small side because of the scale of the game.
>>14048452
>>14048465
>>14045876
>>14048431
Honestly kind of upset there doesn't seem to be any cool, detailed concept art for any combots.
>>14048515
Same.
>>14048465
>western mech a design
>literally the Scorpion Tank from GitS
>>14048579
The game its from makes its Shirow influence incredibly obvious.
>>14048587
That in itself is one thing, that's perfectly fine.
But it's hard to call something a western design when it's very clearly based on a japanese design.
>>14043205
for what its worth i don't think that's an original vulture, i think its a latter model
>there will never be a plamo of Hyperduck Kingbreaker White Lightning
>>14048431
Even tank spam underground, it was very fun.
Eh, close enough.
>>14049452
>>14049452
I fucking loved this show when I was like, 7 or 8.
It was like Mechwarrior mixed with Star Trek.
Nice image dump fags
>>14050669
Forgot my image, sorry
Spider is my bae. Any other /m/fags play MWO?
>>14050593
With bit of babylon 5.
![e7c4zgg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/L9gTL0e.png "e7c4zgg[1].png")
>>14051178
ye
I rock a Jagermech and pretend I'm piloting a walking KV-2
>>14051233
Noice, if you ever see a guy with TR8R in his gamertag online das me
>>14051191
So good.
>>14052273
Fun fun fun
>>14045418
>>14045844
>>14045888
Here's the most recent upload of my translation for Gundam Senki. Aside from the remaining stat blocks and the combat rules (which are about 90% the same as Mekton Zeta) the translation part is pretty much done. I still have to add descriptions for the skills as well.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3GuThKv1m7BcTJaUHBQQTlYS0U
>>14041882
Hell yeah... Though, a glitter boy would wreck that power armor.
>>14045745
Son, that's a Battle Master
>>14054499
Doesn't look like the Reseen Battlemaster to me.
>>14054513
>>14054499
Searching the actual image in >>14045745 says it's a Zeus.
>>14054499
Nigga you stupid
>>14047102
Kek
>>14047102
Now I'm remembering another Comic by this same guy where one mech is selling another mech hands. He opens up a suitcase and tada, hands.
>>14052463
Uziel is the real deal
>>14055804
I'm very sad the kickstarter didn't pass for the new video game
>>14056651
>40k
It's time
>>14056692
Those look like upgraded Thallax.
>>14056699
Kitbashing is fun
>>14056705
No need to kitbash or proxy everything anymore though. FW has delivered.
>>14056724
>FW
I have a assload of disposable income, i'm not made of it
>>14056692
Wait, there was a HG kickstarter recently? Damn, I musta missed it...
>>14056778
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/stompybot/heavy-gear-assault-0/
it was not even close
>>14056823
>Devs continued work
>In early access alpha
>It's just a shitty Hawken
OH WOW THAT'S DISSAPOINTING
>>14054499
It fucking says "ZEUS"
>>14043163
But isn't battletech just a bunch of ripped off designs from Macross/robotech? Doesn't that mean its technically eastern mecha?
>>14044583
So we should actually be angry at HG for being really shit at keeping their contracts straight.
>>14057996
/shrug
>>14059684
Do the original IICs count, considering who did the art?
![CFhWA[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uPSTayn.jpg "CFhWA[1].jpg")
![3f76d279c4e7c89572e32fdcdddfd1d7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SHUJLzo.jpg "3f76d279c4e7c89572e32fdcdddfd1d7[1].jpg")
![d69c8cf6c987112b44cd2233e77ef388[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aooK5eJ.jpg "d69c8cf6c987112b44cd2233e77ef388[1].jpg")
![sDhcJQJ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/C2v1wlT.jpg "sDhcJQJ[1].jpg")
![awgbot_03[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Lgx96QP.jpg "awgbot_03[1].jpg")
>>14061788
everything in Destiny is so well designed ooff
>>14062322
>>14062328
>>14062332
Yes anon, we all know how good Blomkamp is at live action mechs.
![art-chappie-moose-05[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LsN806y.jpg "art-chappie-moose-05[1].jpg")
The City of Villains robot pets where quite nice.
>>14046258
>keith thompson
My man of african descent
>>14063965
That man is amazing. He even worked on Pacific Rim.
>>14049089
>>14061878
>>14063967
>rise of legends
>Metal Arms
>SupCom
I love semi obscure mecha. Zeke is best robot though
>>14063985
They were such a great faction. Loved tGeneral Carlini's badass death too.
Man, is there any western stuff other than Star Wars that isn't top-heavy boxes with chicken legs or mazinger recolors?
>>14057712
A few of the first were. The vast majority of the designs are very, very Western.
>>14063967
I don't really have a Aeon version of these.
>>14048706
That episode was cheesy in all the right ways. How did /m/ receive it?
>>14064579
With a lot of pictures of that one guy's Domon butt
>>14064161
>very, very Western
So badly done Macross/Robotech ripoffs. Good to know.
>>14064610
>all Western /m/ designs are just knock offs of eastern designs at their core.
Why were you in this thread?
>>14065967
To make the same
>All western mecha is just boxy chicken walkers and mazinger rip offs!
Comments over and over is my guess.
>Image limit reached.
Woot.
>>14045994
>>14046096
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT-43
>>14066221
Shame the game is dead. It had neat art.
>>14065988
>>14064105 is not me.
>>14065967
Because I was on the front page and saw somebody say something stupid.
Really like the idea and look of this game. Shame its PS-VR only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDO7Ockyurk
Couldnt post image, here's a link to it.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gDO7Ockyurk/maxresdefault.jpg
>>14067364
>Because I was on the front page and saw somebody say something stupid.
How does that work?
You hadn't even posted in the thread at that point.
>>14042484
>>14042503
>>14047693
>>14049248
I KNOW WE CAN MAKE IT TOGETHER!!!!!!
>>14051232
One of the most overlooked fighting games of our time.
>>14067364
Sorry, all generic
>hurr, durr western mecha stuff rooks the same
trolling is indistinguishable at this point.
>>14068510
Shame battlegrounds sucked.
>>14064513
>we must liberate the symbionts, but first, let me take a selfie.
>>14069042
As a guy who has argued about this before and who generally dislikes western mecha in Battletech's flavors, I am going to reply to you to say I'm not sure whether to be amused, bemused, or saddened by how some guy posting about it is being seen as trolling, as well as how arguing about it could be legit trolling.
I mean shit I normally argue that a lot of Western stuff in that style just isn't good, but I don't like arguing and I've avoided this thread until this very moment explicitly because I knew I wouldn't like it. If someone else holds the opinion that it isn't good or shares many traits that are not good to them then it isn't trolling.
I can accept that East v. West may be an opinions thing on many levels but to simply call this disagreement trolling I can't level with.
I mean shit, what you guys call a "Battlemaster" is a bucthered-to hell Bigfoot from Dougram, and many western mecha -do- share traits that make them seem samey. You could argue Eastern or non-American stuff does this too but again, opinions.
>>14068464
You don't have to be in a thread to see what people say in it. If you're browsing 4chan by pages rather than catalog you can see some things people have posted in a thread.
>>14069042
Facts are trolling now?
>>14071299
Gee I wonder why people who see "all western mecha is shit" spammed constantly are going to think someone posting "all western mecha is shit" with a slight variation is a troll.
Maybe if they want their hot opinions listened to, they could take take time to phrase their argumement. If somebody is going to pop in here and dismiss all western mecha from a variety of designers from Stan Winston, Syd Mead, to Geoff Darrow, "all robotech rip off shit, cuz all western mechais shit!" You'll excuse me if I return the favor and dismiss the statement along with "all cgi is bad", and "every gundam is gay". Can the argument be made that CGI has been done badly, or that Gundam can be gay at times? Absolutely. I'm not saying that arguing a point is trolling. I'm saying dropping glib insults about "you're waifu a shit" is going to be dismissed like, well all the other insults of "you're waifu a shit." Why should I consider this an argument? Why should I think "well this anon is clearly trying to make a long, well thought out discourse on the qualities of waifus"? Why would I think the statement is anything more than an oft repeated troll line?
>I can accept that East v. West may be an opinions thing on many levels but to simply call this disagreement trolling I can't level with.
What disagreement? The one line about "western mecha is robotech rip offs"? Again, if it reads like "you're waifu a shit" I'm going to read it as "you're waifu a shit." There are things in here that are clearly not Robotech/Macross/Battletech inspired at all. Granted that one particular comment was pointed to a comment specifically talked about battletech, I'll give it that, but that response that reads just like "all western mecha is ripoffs", which certainly reads "all western mecha a shit". One certainly could make the argument about their opinion, then they should make an argument, not shitpost.
>>14071299
>and many western mecha -do- share traits that make them seem samey
"Many" being the key term here. Not all.
>I mean shit, what you guys call a "Battlemaster" is a bucthered-to hell Bigfoot from Dougram
Honestly, I don't even follow battletech, beyond the mechwarrior games. And I'm not denying that most of the designs were slapped together at the last minute since they lost their actual designs. Though some could make the argument they got better later. But you do raise a certain point that I want to play devil's advocate for. Look at the designs chosen for the original battletech game. Big Stompy mecha from Macross (a series better known for it's fast flying mechs), Big stompy mecha from Dougram, and big stompy mecha from Crusher Joe. These designs were pretty distinct from their contemporaries, and that's probably why these designs were used rather than something more gundam looking. So when FASA or whoever created their cheap replacements, they used designs that fell along the same lines as the "big stompy mech". And yes some of these were clearly ripoffs, but at the same time, nobody argues Metal Gear Rex is a robotech/macross ripoff, despite sharing many big, stompy attributes.
>You could argue Eastern or non-American stuff does this too but again, opinions.
You absolutely could. And I'll go one further and say you can clearly see the differences in a design made in American, a design made in france, and a design made in England. We just slap all together in a thread since there is so little content compared to Japanese designs.
>>14045735
>implying they care
>implying HG can still sue them
>implying Agrama isn't a filthy sandnigger
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>>14051270
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>>14051233
enjoy your p2w kusoge, fuccbois
Why all the walls of text?
>>14069042
Let us never speak of Battlegrounds again.
>>14043410
what a retarded thing to say
'Mech' is a great phrase. Has he never heard of Robotech/anything else where the bots move fast? Is 'gundam' not associated with mechs in his mind? What about the recently-released Pacific Rim?
Even within battletech there are fast mechs like the Spider, which is supposed to be the agile, fast-moving, jump-jet anime mech.
No wonder the Titanfall community is so shitty and uneducated about mecha.
>>14071299
Anon
One of the draws of Battletech is getting to play your Macross/Dougram/Crusher Joe exports against hapless friends
Battletech isn't east vs west it's east AND west.
>>14047371
it was zippo budget because they blew most of it on marketing hype instead of actually making a game.
>>14075988
>haven't spent a dime
>1.91 kdr, 1.67 w/l
>>14079378
man, the marketing budget is out of their hands.
That shit was untouchable for them to begin with.
Honestly I imagine most of their non-dev expenses were just establishing their studio
