Jesus, fuck you Mikazuki.
I smirked.
>>14048433
Mikazuki best MC. He loses use of an arm and doesn't afraid of nothing.
>>14048433
No idea why you'd expect him to remember Crank's name since he only heard it once if I recall, and it was a single duel he wasn't that invested in months ago.
>>14048433
>>14048433
Mikazuki isn't an utter idiot...he figured it out.
actually, that was a great line:
"that old man was seeking his death..."
i'm glad me, Mika, and Crank understand each-other
>>14048519
Ein confirmed for being the biggest cuck .
>>14048433
Interested to see how they'll handle Mika's disability in S2
My bet is on cybernetic implants
>>14048637
Maybe for the eye, but he seems satsfied with his arm working when it needs to when he's piloting.
>>14048662
If anything his eye seems more fine than his arm, since it's presumably damaged by his connection to Barbatos and likely to heal in time.
>>14048637
>>14048662
>>14048681
Tekkadan becomes MSF since other military groups are popping up apparently
>>14048698
>Orga, I'm already a demon
>>14048698
>TFW attracted (non-sexually) to things with heterogeneous eyes
>Heterochromia iridis, heterochromisa scleris, spot around one eye
F-fuck.
>>14048637
This reminds me, Inaho also lost an eye in A/Z(Tatsuyuki Nagai, you lazy copycat). Although Mika's injuries are arguably more severe.
>>14048906
>Mika, What took you so long?
My god this episode was completely fucking horrible.
>Azee, Laffter AND Shino all survived. The girls are virtually unscathed despite massive wounds in the last episode.
>Mika basically begs his Gundam to give him more power.
>Mika gets ultimate plot armor to defeat Ein.
>Gaelio doesn't even put up a fight.
>Akihiro gets pretty much no screen time
>Nobody fucking dies except Ein and possibly Gaelio
>We are supposed to be happy these space rats accomplished their goal.
Total fucking garbage.
>>14048935
I kinda wish his damaged eye was clouded now.
That'd be badass.
>>14049031
>My god this episode was completely fucking horrible.
Just like the rest of the series?
How are you surprised?
>>14049068
It is look carefully
>>14049118
You're right. You barely get a shot of his full face in the entire epilogue, so I didn't see.
However it's not particularly impressive. Basically it just lost its shine and the pupil doesn't seem to react anymore.
Since when did Barbatos learn teleport? Ein should have chopped it up.
>>14049148
Mika exchanged an eye and an arm for a quick level up
>>14049146
Could just be QUALITY
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>>14049187
![qu4OhD7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gVbY075.jpg "qu4OhD7[1].jpg")
>>14049068
>>14049146
Does this mean he's going to wear an eyepatch in the next season?
>>14049207
Gundanium Gear Solid?
>>14049031
> People hated Ein because their waifus got handed down
>Next ep all alive
>Ein 404'ed
>Gali garmaed
>inb4 galli alive
>happy ending
I don't know if I can continue catching this anymore
>>14049228
Literally the second coming of A/Z.
>>14049162
Looks more like he had a minor stroke
>>14049255
>implying it's not a pact with barbatos, duke of hell
muh symbolism
>>14049207
>>14049217
Metal Gundam Solid 5: An Orphan Pain
>>14049261
>implying the ham fisted hacks running this shit could even do symbolism that shitty
>>14049268
You're actually right, my bad
>>14049146
Kudelia looks like "WTF am i doing?"
meanwhile, Atra is seriously invested in the Mika petting ceremony....
if there is a timeskip, i am betting Atra will make some kinda move....
>>14049268
>>14049273
You morons have never read up on Barbatos, have you?
>>14049267
>Metal Gundam Solid 5: An Orphan Pain
Or
Metal Gundam Solid 5: The Phantom Parents
>>14049288
>they ruin atra by making her hair longer.
>>14049290
I don't care enough about this garbage to do it, why?
>>14049296
Barbatos can talk to animals the kids are called space rats I dunno throw in some deep meaning crap
>>14049309
wtf Okada is a genius!
>>14048433
Just done watching the finale. I refuse to believe that anyone who isn't a 14 years old angry fucktard had a good time with this show. It was like watching SnK : Gundam edition.
>>14049187
Nah they show it multiple times
>>14049031
>Mika basically begs his Gundam to give him more power.
Not that Barbatos is literally talking to him, but that the imagery and analogies used alludes to the Ars Goetia and Barbatos namesake.
Given how Mikazuki got it to remove the safety limits by just asking it to, it's a very real possibility they were going for a metaphor towards Barbatos origins.
Hell, the thing even looks more in line with fucking Nagai's work than Gundam/Tomino in some ways, what with how skeletal it is and the V fin being more like oni horns (especially when you consider it fights with a club).
That and the choice to use Barbatos was deliberate when there were 71 other demons to choose from (assuming it was the first Gundam Frame designed for the series).
>>14049288
Atra wants both Mika and Kudelia. And you know what, she's gonna win everything, Orga included as a bonus.
>>14048698
genious anon
>>14050495
>It's an Atra cucks Mika episode
>>14049290
>Guest Starring: Child Soldiers
>>14049261
>>14049268
>>14049296
>72 Gundams
>72 demons of the Ars Goetia
>all of the Gundam frames are named after demons from the Ars Goetia
>the Gjallarhorn is the horn that foretells Ragnarok/the apocalypse in Norse mythology
It's like you motherfuckers don't even read books.
>>14049031
Dude. People were saying as soon as last week's ep aired that the waifus probably weren't dead. Shino was banged up and bleeding in a damaged cockpit but that was it, it was clear he'd be fine. Lafter, likewise, got pretty freaking blatantly vague one, just a shot of some blood spatter. Azee was the best case for dying, but there again, the -machine- was hit on the head, not her. She was slumped over, forward, in her cockpit, and for all the blood on her, the top of her head was intact. Things that just didn't add up to death, especially in a show that had literally shown one guy get flattened into a bloody smear under a mobile suit foot, another get batted into a bloody stain in the snow, another get impaled on a giant katana, the life fading from Carta's eyes.
It's your own fault for falling for it.
>>14048637
>Interested to see how they'll handle Mika's disability in S2
He was always disabled though.
>>14048433
Why? I thought we had Gundam protags who is nothing but a pacifist throughout the 2000's and people complain about that. Now we got a protag who is a psychopathic killer that has no chill. You should be rejoicing that the character is what you always wanted.
>>14050928
Mika commited the mortal sin of being flat and uninteresting.
>>14050457
>use Barbatos deliberately
What is so special about Barbatos among the demons?
>>14050982
In the book it has a device Satan himself gave him:
>Plot Armour From Hell
>>14050928
To steal a metaphor from another anon, IBO is like ordering your favourite meal and when you get it it's completely raw and uncooked, and then someone like you goes "wow you got everything you asked for why don't you like it".
>>14051169
>it's completely raw and uncooked
And someone also took a shit on it.
>>14050893
>Things that just didn't add up to death
The gusion pilot takes a 30ft sword through his body and theres not a drop of blood.
Lafter takes a drill to the cockpit, we see a big gush of blood, theres a squelching noise and we're supposed to believe she came out of that just fine? but hey its super vague, just like that guy who got stomped in his cockpit by mikas foot, we never see the body so i guess by your logic he must be still alive.
In that episode carta takes a few knocks from mika, is banged up and bleeding in a damaged cockpit but that was it, it was clear she'd be fine. Oh no wait she died. Same shit happens to norba and he's bleeding out of every orifice and he comes out smiling
Azee's scene was the least vague and the most misleading. azee looks up (despite there being no monitor there), axe comes down, and the shot zooms straight into her eye. This would imply the axe had come down straight into her head. thats just how editing works. and again this shows pretty tame, the most we'll get is blood spurts, its still a kids show at the end of the day so theyre not going to show azee's caved in face or lafters blendered body even if those things had happened. the gusion pilot may have got a grim death but he's an ugly evil adult and not your waifu. so when you see azee drenched in blood after that previous scene and her face obscured what are people going to believe?
its not just bullshit because they survived all that, theres also the fact that it makes everything ein did completely pointless
>>14051169
i feel like IBO is a meal thats been left in the oven too long but is still somehow undercooked
>>14051216
I can't believe IBO was has supposedly been in development since the 00 movie
that 5 whole years, what happened?
>>14051189
When they want someone to die they telegraph it pretty well. When they want someone to merely look in mortal peril but be fine, they also telegraph it pretty well.
If you're just a dumb shit who can't pick up on some of the most obvious and predictable writing in the franchise, that's on you.
This is the first Gundam series that made me feel like an old man.
When I read the posts here from the people who liked this and why they like it, it's baffles me. Seriously. It's like overhearing today's middle-schoolers talking about shit that's extremely important to them (and may have mattered to me once) but my old person brain can't process all that hip shit that I don't get, it all goes to the garbage bin and nothing sticks. I want to slap them until the world starts making sense again.
>>14051271
People are constantly changing. So they look at things differently. I congratulate you on niticing it.
Someone make a webm of Mika unsheathing his katana and teleports behind Ein."nothing personal, Ein.
>>14051244
so i guess gaelio are still alive
>>14050893
There were plenty of people who thought they'd survive, but there were also plenty of people who were 100%
>EIN OFFED THREE NAMES HOLY SHIT
/m/ has gotten really bad about trying to rewrite history to suit their arguments.
>>14051387
ok, i was shocked at Ein's sudden streak of whackaname
but i am no means gonna re-write what happened.
Ein, we wanted so much from you....
>>14051387
i dont think there were many people who would have denied that someone might survive, but all them surviving was considered a joke by most people. and even then the most i saw of that was "lol how mad would you be if theyre all still alive?"
>>14051189
So you know already that the show's been inconsistent in displaying severe injury and death (which is actually more realistic, using blood as some go to implication of illness/death is a cliche trope... reality is unrealistic), why would you believe the show would somehow be consistent there?
>theres also the fact that it makes everything ein did completely pointless
And? People dying senselessly isn't new to Gundam. That describes most Zeon focused stories (might be reflection of how Japan lost WW2 and all)
MUH IDEALS *dies senselessly*
>>14051189
>so when you see azee drenched in blood after that previous scene and her face obscured what are people going to believe?
yeah but if the axe came down then by all accounts her body should be mush.
She wouldn't be sitting in an upright position if she was killed via and overhead swing
>>14048637
i believe both his eye and arm work properly during AV
>>14051271
The irony being IBO is more like the Gundams of old than anything in the last decade.
>>14051271
>Waaaaaaaaaaah anime is not like when I was a kid
I got news for ya, mate. Gundam was always pretty fucking retarded. So take your baby wing nostalgia and shove it up your ass
>>14048698
>Mikazuki. A young man deprived of his martian dates.
Gaelio, Carta and Ein will come back as cyborgs to exact revenge on McMofo
>>14051189
It shown how desperate Ein was for revenge. Being a hardened survivor who passes it on to three AV enchanced pilots would have actually more success since they would have a numerically superior advantage with Ein's experience.
>>14048433
>expecting someone to remember the tens of men they killed in a lifetime
Fuck you OP.
Info from GMG 2016 Spring:
-Purple is the most expensive paint, white is the cheapest but gives more visibility
-Ahab Reactor was invented by a scientist called Ahab
-Ahab particles are used in MS's Anti-G System and ship's pseudo gravity generator
-Ahab Waves jam communication and guided weaponry in the area, for long distance communication dedicated relay machines are used
-Each Seven Stars clan has a Gundam used by the founding member in the war, while other surviving ones are in different situations
-There's a theory that less than 10 MS using the Valkyria Frame were produced. It's easy to use and has high mobility so it was refined into the current Graze
-AV System is necessary to display the Gundam Frame's potential from the dual Ahab Reactors.
-In frequent combat the Barbatos's mobility fell, so the Flight Unit was added.
-Mortars are available in MS size
-6th's Ritter shoulder armor was selected for its higher strength for long battles
-Schwalbe Graze aimed for high output while sacrificing stability at the request of high level pilots like McGillis
-Here it says the Hyakuri is developed by Teiwaz, the backpack also has an Ahab Wave detection Sensor. It also says the base for Teiwaz development was the high output MS from the end of the War, mentioned in the Hyakuren manual. Teiwaz wanted to compete with pirates with their own forces so it began MS development.
-The other Seven Stars founding members could be also ship commander in addition to MS pilots
-GJ gets lots of tax revenue from the blocs
-Fareed clan is about 3 seats below the Bauduins, Issue is the most prestigious.
-Mika's 3 AV System surgeries means that he has higher rate of information exchange than others
-Spinner Rodi's back waist weapon is a two-handed hammer, a tool used in colonies that doubles as a weapon.
-Valkyria Blades are made of a rare metal that's even tougher than the Gundam Frame but not enough to make 1 MS body. This tech has been lost.
>>14060245
>AV System is necessary to display the Gundam Frame's potential from the dual Ahab Reactors.
I call bullshit. The AV system was an addition to Barbatos. If Gundams require it to be awesome it would have been standard issue.
>>14060354
It is standard issue.
>>14060245
How is McGillis going to fund Gjallarhorn now? Those blocs are going to stop funding the group after what happened in Episode 25.
>>14060354
But it's standard issue, actually. All of the Gundams have an AV system.
>>14051977
But that's wrong you fucking 08th baby.
>>14060354
They only added it because Barbatos didn't have a cockpit block in the first place.
>>14060354
It's in addition in the Barbatos because the Barbatos was in an incomplete state even before the kids got their hands on it. What the info says doesn't contradict the show.
>>14060389
Well GJ still the only group that can (as of S1) make new Ahab Reactors so maybe while everyone is building up their military they'll be licensing/selling their older tech to make the other economic blocs happy for a little bit.
>>14060389
Pimping out Gali-gali's sister.
>>14060354
I'm pretty sure the only addition was the cockpit block for the purposes of an AV interface...
>>14060245
Sorry, I am a bit lost on the world of IBO. So world bloc don't have their own military and Gjallarhorn is a centralised military organisation that owns a bit of land and all and largely dictate what the power blocs could do?
>>14061076
I figured they were kind of world police or something
>>14048637
>Got cybernetic eye and arm
>Keep on Keeping on plays in the background
>>14049250
A/Z is already bad. Prepare for the worst shit train guys.
>Look who's talking
Based Mika
The only part of this I was still enjoying Gaelio and Mcgillis. At least I don't need to watch season 2 now.
I think Mika is the edgiest TV Gundam protagonist at this point.
If Heero had stayed true to his maniacal laughing self from the first episode of Wing, he might have been it, but I think Mika has it. Fon would be proud.
>>14051189
>the fact that it makes everything ein did completely pointless
This is a point which needs expanded on
In Zeta it is kinda bullshit that Four survived, but it leads to a few good episodes so most let it go. What did unkilling those 3 lead to? Like 2 or 3 scenes where they added nothing to the show. These characters did fuck all important before and after mostly just getting 10 second appearances in the very rare fights and then of course the random gay scenes which added nothing. All this does is make Ein look worse in every way, undermine the tension and the gritty feeling the shows was going for
>inb4 But maybe in S2 so maybe
Fuck off, S2 is another show 6 months away. I am judging S1 which doesn't stand up. Never mind the show has a habit of completely ignoring characters for the rest of the show once it did something with them
>>14061318
Mika still hasn't tried to blow himself up or kill the girl he liked yet.
>>14061318
Seriously? Mika barely even speaks. I keep hearing /m/ say he's an edgy psychopath, but the only scene that gave me that impression was "who should I kill next, Orga?" How can he be edgy if we barely even know his personality?
>>14050495
Proofs or go back to /u/, scum.
>>14061969
Yeah. Mika is robotic, not edgy.
>>14061969
He literally unsheathes a fucking katana and tells the guy he just stabbed to shut up.
>>14051244
>Axe smashes head in
>cut to pilot looking up as axe crushes it
yeah they really telegraphed that one well
>>14060245
>-Each Seven Stars clan has a Gundam used by the founding member in the war, while other surviving ones are in different situations
Wonder why carta didn't whip hers out (not like itd make adifference
>>14062055
Well, in fairness, it's not really an impression of Coldsteel, it's him telling some bugfuck loony who spent the entire fight rambling to shut his trap. Which I think most people would do, logically speaking to.
>>14062069
I think be telegraph he means moments in the episode that occur before their death. Like with Biscuit the episode started with his sisters going on about how much they want him to return home safely despite having nothing to do with the show's story for nearly twenty episodes.
>>14061076
Gjallarhorn is the A-Laws with less blatant mustache twirling evil and no orbital satellite cannon or FUCKING RIBBOOOONS.
>>14060354
All Gundam pilots have AV system. Remember how Gundams became an instrument to end the war? This is the reason AV system.
Also have you seen the cockpit concept for Kiimaris?
>>14062104
This is why A-Laws is better than Blue Cosmos or Titans.
>THEY HAVE FUCKING RIBBBOOOONS.
>>14061076
We don't know what Gjallarhorn's actual jurisdiction is.
They don't seem to actually have one, which is kind of retarded if you look at the plot.
It seems like a central military without rights or much of a purpose.
>>14062075
This.>>14060245
It doesn't make sense. If Galieo busts one out, why shouldn't she?
Does McGilis own his dad's one then?
>>14062104
>Gjallarhorn is the A-Laws with less blatant mustache twirling evil
Yeah that what makes them more realistic. A-Laws were fucking stupid
Not only that, but if an item is locked away by magical enchantment, Barbatos can magically unlock this for the conjurer.
>Mika asked for Barbatos to increase the reaction speed of the AV
>AV is literally space magic
OKADA
Anyone got this in sound?
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>>14051189
You know, they showed a little orphan kid get impaled and crushed by a giant mecha mace, if they wanted to tell you "Azee is dead" they wouldn't just have showed her mostly intact body sitting in a slightly awkward position, they'd have given you 1-2 frames of the whole cieling going down on her.
>>14062521
Were we supposed to feel bad for the antagonists in this show? I genuinely don't know. On one hand, they feel pretty lolevil and goofball. On the other hand we have scenes like this and the one where Carta dies to galigalis arms and our heroes being generally pretty heartless towards them so I can't help but to sympathize with them. But i don't know if I'm supposed to. Maybe I'm too stuck with the usual gundam UNDERSTANDING where the MC at least sometimes feels bad about killing.
Also birdman is the best notchar since forever. He even has his own loli.
>>14061969
He seems more like Chirico, but even more emotionally repressed (and therefore bland).Red Shoulder March when?
>>14062630
Supposedly, Nagai said something about Tekkadan being in the wrong, but the story itself is playing out as if they aren't.
>>14051271
As of five years ago animegfags need ALL THE EXPOSITION ALL OF IT.
>>14062675
>Supposedly, Nagai said something about Tekkadan being in the wrong, but the story itself is playing out as if they aren't.
Reminds me if a reddit post that said that at some convention Tomino said that Lacus was the best Gundam Villan, Shinn was a tragic character and he hoped that Lacus gets taken down come another CE show.
>>14051271
A lot of it is just forced enthusiasm. It's like the forced outrage we see on university campuses today. I guess it must be a millenial thing.
Besides, you should have seen the G-Recofags when that show was airing.
>>14063160
What are you thinking? You can't say that stuff here.
Well, ask yourself if there was any solid evidence of that Tomino Q&A ever happened, or if the translation was accurate. If it was the same post I looked at some time ago, even some people there called it into question, and never got a reassuring answer.
>>14063354
Aren't late-teens and some early-twenties post-millennial? What some call Centennials. Unless everyone's decided to extend the definition of Millennial until they're done casually belittling age groups with buzzwords.
It pains me to see unanimous praise for IBO in some places. It's hard to see how someone can get through that final episode without being bored. The only part that gave me any strong emotion was the image of Gaelio's sister unknowingly living a long, happy life in the arms of her brother's killer.
The one chance of redemption is Tekkadan being revealed as a thoroughly terrible thing. I guess it might still be in the works, but I can't stand IBO's heroics. I prefer the classic UC approach, where the heroes have to suck it up and fight for sleazy Federation assholes, because the best hope for the future is choosing the least of many evils rather than some shiny ideal. (AEUG might contradict that, but it's arguable.)
>>14063524
>It pains me to see unanimous praise for IBO in some places
pretty sure 4chan is the only place where threads about a certain franchise are covered in heavy criticism of said franchise
i mean, if you go to some random anime forum nd visit the subforum of some shitty anime, what you'll find there are probably going to be fans of that shitty anime who will think that anime is the greatest thing ever
it's like that for pretty much every show
>>14060354
>The AV system was an addition to Barbatos.
Pretty sure they said that the reason they had to use a MW's AV is that the CGS boss had sold those parts since they weren't needed (since they were only using Barbatos as a generator).
>>14063558
But even then if you saw the reactions on said subforums when AGE and G-Reco was airing it was mostly criticism.
>>14063524
>choosing the least of many evils
You do, of course, realize that the only thing Tekkadan "won" was payment for their job. The sleazy weapons merchant, the sleazy space yakuza boss, and the teamkilling usurper all came out way ahead because of what Tekkadan did. This is not a "happily ever after" kind of ending, this is a "Victory, you say? No, master Obi Wan, not victory....begun, the clone war has" kind of ending.
>>14063622
That's true, and I noticed it. I'm referring more to presentation than plot. The music, the dialogue, the maneuvers. Despite that seed of doubt which was blonde-lady-who-works-for-Tekkadan-on-behalf-of-Teiwaz, the show goes too far out of its way to make Tekkadan look noble, unstained by their associations with schemers like Fareed, Teiwaz-boss, and earlobe-man.
>>14063598
I haven't checked out the ones for AGE, but I'd say that's very, very true for G-Reco. Poor, poor G-Reco, too pure for this world.
>>14063598
i must admit i havent wandered to anime dscussion places other than /m/ and /a/ in years and was speaking out of my ass
sorry
have some poorly drawn sluts
>>14061070
Nope, the cockpit was stripped out and sold as scrap along with other bits of Barbatos, the guy that owned the CGS.
>>14063622
I don't think it will end as poorly as the clone wars did.
JUST
>>14064067
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>>14062246
So does anyone else know what Gjallarhorn's role is?
>>14064067
Yeeouch. I hope there's nobody who's honestly willing to shell out money for any of those.
Assuming it's their own money.
>>14064226
It seems, by law, they have jurisdiction over everything. Earth Sphere, Mars Sphere, the space between, probably the Jupiter Sphere as well, except they just don't bother to exert their control as much, so you get criminal syndicates like Teiwaz growing strong there. Their job is to maintain the balance of power between the four economic blocs of Earth, and their respective colonies/areas of influence on Mars, making sure none of the four collapses or takes over another.
Their control over the four economic blocs isn't absolute, and the blocs have degrees of autonomy, like when the Oceanians tried to prevent Gjallarhorn from entering the territory where Kudelia and the old man were meeting. I didn't see any evidence of military forces specific to an economic bloc, more as if the blocs have powers over Gjallarhorn diplomatically. Gjallarhorn can't just do anything they want because one or more blocs will decide that the benefits of Gjallarhorn's protection and stabilization aren't worth it, and rebel.
>>14064067
Biscuit will make a fine paperweight.
>>14050928
>Now we got a protag who is a psychopathic killer that has no chill.
And yet none of that was ever shown or was a negative for anybody else but the antagonists.
>>14063524
>Aren't late-teens and some early-twenties post-millennial?
Millennial spans from around 1982-1999
>>14064067
Looks like they're just staying true to the show's quality.
>>14064600
Yeah none can’t deny those things look terrible
>>14064301
They didn't have the right to pursue Tekkadan in Abrau apparently. They apparently didn't have the right to stop Kudelia. They don't have the right to declare beard politician a terrorist and stop him from being elected as a criminal.
Apparently they also needed an excuse to arrest Kudelia.
Gjallarhorn doesn't have any legal ability to exert itself.
>>14064404
He tried to choke out Gali Gali before they were fighting.
