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Which is the best G Generations and why is it Spirits for the PS2?

Post some honorable mentions too
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>>14037191
sorry I think you mean F, nothing has beaten F yet.
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>>14037508
Spirits was better because it was UC only and had a lot of sidestories. F is better as a Crossover but Spirits it's better as an UC game.
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>>14037979
I think they're both the high points of the series so I'm willing to accept either
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we all know what the best games are, what about the worst ones.

I think crossdrive was absolutely terrible and bored me to death but I still finished both routes anyway.
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>hack 3ds
>see SD gundam G Generations 3D
>aww yeah
>not in English
>have no clue what anything means
Is there a guide somewhere?
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I loved the Wonderswan ones too
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>>14037191
It's F, I liked Spirits but the slowwwwdown killed it, Wars had to downgrade a few things just to run it smoothly
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>>14037191
GGen DS. My biggest disappointment concerning Cross Drive is that there's no Rival Route equivalent. That shit was so awesome.
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Which one had Super Newtype Kai Shinden again? Cause that one has my vote.
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>>14039921
DS rival route, Amuro dies and Kai takes his place
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Man I tried to play this through an emulator but can only run it at 40-50 frames

Then I checked my PS2 and it's dead

Not fair
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>>14037191
Nothing with the Haro
system can be best anything.

>>14041458
That is strange it is not a very demanding game. Are you running it at 8x native or something? Or is it just in some of the cut-ins? Because some of them seem to lag even if you are running at 60 frames.
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>>14041991
I think my PC is shit
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Started this game again now that I saw the thread

God damn it's amazing. Loving everything, from the aesthetics to the music, just amazing
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Please explain to me what is the Haro system. I've only heard of it in those threads, and it's universally reviled, so I want to know. I'll try to find the game to play for myself, anyway.

I've played Wars, World and Overworld. I think I liked Wars the most of them all...
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>>14046022
It's the score system in Spirits that opens up pilots. You get a higher score the more you overkill suits. So it slows the game to a crawl since you have to gang up with support attacks on every enemy if you want to get any of the good pilots.

It can make a stage take 2 or 3 times as long to finish.
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>>14037191
>Which is the best G Generations and why is it Spirits for the PS2?
You misspelled G Gen Overworld.
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>>14046022
Haro points are like the score of the stage

Every time you kill an unit you get points. If you do crits and more units participate in the kill you get even more points, and if you overkill all those points get a multiplier of 1.x being x the amount of kills you would've done (IE a 1000 HP unit receives 2000 damage, you would've killed it twice, so you get 1.2x multiplier), capped at double points when you do ten times its max hp

The score becomes money at the end of the stage. Also it gives a rank, going from black to bronze, silver, gold and platinum. Your rank gives you a part you can equip to your unit (better rank better parts) and a certain amount of points to unlock units in a certain scenario. You have to get platinum in all missions to unlock every character.
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I love the opening movie
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I wouldn't play a G Gen game that didn't let me make custom pilots, at least not after playing World and Overworld.
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>>14037191
Where's my Genesis PV?
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>>14046373
World/Overworld removed cockpit portraits (most likely because of space).
Overworld made you grind 10x more because you can't just make an unkillable god with only melee attacks. In WARS, you could start steamrolling 3 or 4 hours in.
I still like WARS more because of cockpit cut-ins and less grindiness, but Overworld is still very good.
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>>14048872
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think every game of the "main" series (PS1/PS2/PSP) lets you create custom pilots. In the PS1 games, you could "rent" pilots for a battle, so the real customs were the G Gen originals.
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>>14048934
I don't believe you get to create pilots in the older games, you can pick a SD G Generation Original pilot, but you don't make one like how they're made in World or Overworld.
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>>14048872
Look at all those mooks. I never created a character in World or Overworld. I mean, when I get to choose fron so many awesome established characters, why would I go with faceless mooks?
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>>14048966
They're nice for the beginning of the game, since they're free.
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>>14048982
You also get a free main character at the beginning, so I don't really see the issue. I prefer the G Gen originals, specially crazy newtype with 1 in all stats except Awakening.
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>>14048982
I know, but there are % based secrets that come rather quickly until 70% and most are better than My Characters. Even the little girl from Age, if you put her in an awakening based suit.
And money is not an issue, unless you really want Ptolemy2kai or the Diva early
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>>14048966
Why not? Some are pretty cute.
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>>14049015
There are cute bridge bunnies, with stats, and all, and they are cheap. The three Astray pilots from SEED as well. Everything is better than The Faceless Ones. But I'm just being autistic maybe
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>>14049055
Probably, the games are easy enough that you don't need the absolute best, or even good pilots you can just grind up whatever you want.
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>>14049070
Yeah, they are easy until you unlock the one true mode, where every little thing matters, and not even lvl30 Dark History Turn A can breeze through
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Anyone know of a torrent source or such for Wars? I swear it's completely vanished from the internet apart from a few shitty split-part downloads
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>>14049086
yeah but by that point a level 50 custom pilot is the same as a normal one
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>>14049144
wii or playstation?
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>>14049205

the PS2 one, although i think both are very hard to find
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>>14048872
allenby so smug
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>>14049259
One of her cut ins shows some nice butt
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>>14048992
80 awakening ahoy

Since I booted this game it's the first original I got, let's see how he fares in Phoenix Gundam
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>>14049246

happy easter, man

https://mega.nz/#!WZ4nEJSD!Di_z0bYlEnYEPvqxO614Ql4LmOKAPEFZQXYhda06VX0
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>>14049266
I'd tap that
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So /m/ which one is your favorite?
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>>14049286

Oh my god, thanks for that one.
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>>14049294
Mark/Code Phoenix because Phoenix gundam. And I replayed OW a few days ago, and looked at their portraits, and they are the same person
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>>14049294
I always get Elfriede and make her a melee beast

>>14049302
you're welcome, man. I know how much it sucks when you really wanna play something and can't find it anywhere
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>>14049294
I roided out Ivan Ivanov just for laughs.

Other than that, Mark for the Phoenix, Claire for the Gunota, and Rachel to fulfill my chocolate fetish. Junas usually has a solid melee stat when you put him in an MS instead of leaving him as a bridge bunny so he was one of my favorites too.
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>>14049294
Damn, I love most of them. Except for Randlowl, Sheld, Luke and that Doc guy. Those can go fuck themselves. Anyway, why can't they get an OVA or something?
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>>14050131
I like Sheld. He's basically a cookie cutter generic MC type but Maria is his nee-san and I like them together.

I'd love an OVA or something of them as a group though. They deserve some more love.
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>>14050306
That's exactly why I don't like him. As far as teen Gundam boys go, I roll with Junas.

They and the Tornado Gundam need more love. The poor thing doesn't even have any non SD art after all these years, as far as I know.
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Wait do the originals actually have background and a story?

When does this unfold? F?

I'm interested in Ivan's background aka the batshit newtype
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>>14050631
no not really, they are just there as extras.
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>>14050631
Pretty much what >>14050673 said. Whatever character they have is solely in their battle quotes and any unique lines including team attack dialogue with other originals.
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>>14037191
DS. if only because a better rendition of Monoeye Gundams.

as for regular GGens, I say F for following the series, Wars for content.
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>>14050748
i sure fucking hope Monoeyes gets into Genesis, it would make me buy it day 1.
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Question about Spirits

Seeing that there are three Amuros and three Chars to unlock, the older they are the better stats they have, yet the younger they are the higher their stat cap is

Can you somehow get both the best stats and also the highest cap? Would unlocking CCA, then Zeta and MSG last achieve this?
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So how much freedom do we have in these games?
Will I be able to make Cima pilot Sazabi?
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>>14052072
yes, but I think that might result in the funnels being craptacular
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I hope Genesis comes completely voiced like Spirits since they are doing UC only, or at least keep the cut-ins like Wars.
This is my current team in Spirits.
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>>14052072
Some SD G Generation games have limitations, non-Newtypes can't use exclusive NT units, can't use it's funnels, or they're really weak. Some have a limitation on Coordinator only units, or Gundam Fighters. Newer games tend to ignore them completely, and sometimes logic itself. A biplane, in space? Come on you're being silly.

Personally I'd rather put Cima in the grave and have a normal Gelgoog Marine Commander
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>>14052082
I don't even care, I want my pilot waifu in my mobile suit waifu.
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>>14052104
they do have cut-ins like wars kind of, we can see cockpit views and stuff.
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>>14052138
I mean not only the cockpit cut-ins but also the MS cut-ins before attacking. A lot of those were pretty good in Wars.
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>>14052204
oh right those, yeah i don't know if those are coming back or not. didn't see them in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofkLmkD9qdE
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>>14052228
The MS cutins appeared when you are fighting against regular grunts, against actual characters were replaced by the cockpit cut-ins. Hopefully they make a PV with those.
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In G Gen Wars, do the 4 main pilot stats (melee, shooting, defending, evasion) actually do anything?
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>>14052072
At least from Wars forward (I didn't play the older games) you can put anyone in any suit, HOWEVER some stuff will be locked out to certain pilots, and usually funnels/bits can only be used by Newtypes. However, note that almost anyone in the game (maybe excepting robots) can become a Newtype after they have enough levels.

And last, funnels suck in the atmosphere. Period.
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>>14052570
No, they're just there for giggles. Of course they do. Melee and shooting increase the accuracy of such attacks, and defense and evasion do what they should do.
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>>14052751
They're just for accuracy?
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>>14052840
Yes.
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I started playing Overworld recently and the moonrunes are really making it hard for me.

I kind of get some of the menus by testing them, but is there anywhere some kind of translation guide for them as well as the stats?
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>>14053942
The only time its been a problem for me is figuring out the World Breaks, you fumble around the menus until you learn them or go find the Overworld wiki its got a partially translated menu.

Sleeves girl is waifu material
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>>14053999
World Breaks aren't a problem since there's a guide on how to get them all.
What I meant is that if there's any kind of guide like that for things like characters' stat menus or their abilities.
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>really want to play Genesis
>don't have money for a PS4 and would rather not buy a Vita
>forced to choose between skimping on my gunpla addiction and saving for a PS4

I fucking hate how expensive these things are over here.
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>>14054020
>Innovator-chan looks kinda crazy
Have you tried the wiki though?

http://ggenoverworld.wikia.com/wiki/GGenOverworld_Wiki

Translated stats and abilities, there was supposed to be some translation patch too but I think that's dead in the water.
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>>14054232
No, and this is exactly what I needed, thank you.
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Fuck those recent G Gen games, shallow maps, no interesting scenarios, everything feels like a grind, team building is the focus instead of the strategy game.

Fuck those games, give me another F, or another Spirits already.
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Wars was pretty good

Speaking of Wars is there a working Wii ISO anywhere on the interwebz
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>>14054209
>G Gen
>In English
I say it's worth it. Hell, between this and OG MD Bamco sold me a PS4.
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>>14054692
Yeah, what motivates me to actually buy a PS4 this time is that, hopefully, most of these /m/ games from now on will have an English release. And since Bandai loves to stick to consoles for many years, there will probably be many more games to come.

I'm wondering if I should buy one in a few months or wait for that fabled PS4K...
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>Domon and Master Asia wrecking Zeon MS on foot
>Domon teaching Doan how to Hyper Mode (golden Zaku and all) and preventing Kamille from becoming retarded
>Kamille wrecking the shit of the Frost brothers
>OYW Char and Amuro in CCA suits
>Ghinias master plan to mass produce Big Zams

Advance, hands down
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>>14054842
I want to believe Genesis will be more akin to Advance and stuff than Wars/World/Overworld.

I want more silly crossover stuff.
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>>14054692
If they also release a Gihren's Greed in english I'm 100% buying a PS4
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>>14055616
New Gihren's Greed fucking when?
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>>14054792
I love that Genesis is getting translated but I hate that it is for the PS4 or Vita.

I do not really want a PS4 and Vita has no games. I do not know if I love these games enough to buy a gaming system just for it.
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>>14057337
I only wish for them to be full of content like Axis no Kyoui instead of DLC central like the last one
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>>14058066
Vita has Digimon Cyber Sleuth. That's good enough for me.
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>>14037191
Because the Haro point system is the best thing ever invented.
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>>14049246
Here's the wii one for anyone else that's Nintendo master race.
https://mega.nz/#!lgBC0BxJ!j3-FSpaO6AbLiD5CEpBlUp2OWezgaQahZau14FVfXfo
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>>14054388
>No custom pilots in F or Spirits
Nah I rather like World and Overworld
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The biggest problem with the Haro rank, and this specific part they promptly removed from the following games after Spirits and Portable, was that the stat upgrade you get from leveling up scales with the current Haro meter you are in. So, literally, every stages becomes a huge chore of exp management if you want optimal stats up, where you only fill each suit's bar to 97% or so with only one pixel left, then use another line of not-yet-filled suits to be milked, until you have reached platinum Haro then your suits can safely LV up.

And if I don't remember it wrong, Spirits had an extra layer of LV progression where your boost was the lowest at low level, and it scales up as you level higher. So for the first dozens of leveling you were discouraged from putting improvements on damage for instance, because you will get more out of it at later levels.

These elements, together with the exchange system, have taken away a lot of the charm that the old school G-Gens had, which was the strategy and proper in-universe MS development progress.
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>>14048872
I used the blond Londo Bell guy with a Sergei voice, because he looked sort of like my character from Encounters in Space and Gundam Battle Universe.
It was pretty awesome hearing him exclaim "This is every man's dream" after wiping out entire formations with the lock-on weapons.
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>>14058621
I have no clue what they're saying most of the time, I do like the Mileina voice for a lot of characters. Its so upbeat and cheery without sounding like a child.
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>>14058606
This is true but also remember that for most of the game you're levelling your suits to upgrade them into new ones, not to make them stronger. Once you get strong enough suits getting platinum in early stages is a joke

I remember the first time I played I grinded a GM into an F90, and just putting it as a master would net me gold-plat soloing some of the OYW stages
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>>14058154
Well, it won't be in a shitty system, so rest assured.
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Gihren's Greed > SD Gundam G Gen > SRW
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I've been checking the library for the last 2 hours completely immersed checking all the characters stats and cockpit cut-ins
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This was me going mad in G-Gen World
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>>14060360
>Energy cost 0
HOW
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>>14060445

The Unlimited Unit Option Part which you earn by beating Stages in Hell (aka slightly harder) Mode
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I'VE LOST CONTROL OF MY LIFE
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Finally

I just turned a fucking Zani into the F91

My life is over
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Wait, wait. Genesis goes just until Unicorn

Fucking dropped
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>>14064784
I don't normally defend this kind of thing, but they are making new 3D models for all units, so there was no way they could cover everything.
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>>14064784
we are getting new sidestory stuff though at least.
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So /m/ who's your ace?

I went straight to platinum BD and got Marion
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>>14064814
Hopefully they include Lost War Chronicles again, I liked the music from that game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxFknjmPOH0
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>>14064910
lost war chronicles is on the series list, also I think they'll keep custom BGM since it wouldn't make sense for them to take it out after Overworld.

http://ggg.ggame.jp/
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>>14064932
I just hope they iron out the Custom BGM kinks. It was really finicky in Overworld.
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>>14064939
really? it didn't seem that confusing to use except for volume being really low.
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>>14064932
great, I was playing Spirits and all their themes were good. I'll miss all the "rad" themes and units of late UC though.
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>>14064941
It was really finicky when you added songs, and some just didn't work for no reason. Z3 was much better about that.
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>>14064982
I never had that problem so I can't comment on that, I agree that Z3 handled custom BGM much better though.
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dear japan: bring back the DS/Wonderswan style ggens dammit

also, I'd love to play DS again if there was a proper flowchart or guide with everything in it lol, pretty sure the jp wikis have stuff the eng guide missed????
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>>14058066
>Vita has no games.
Can this shitty meme just die already? It even has more games than the PS4 or Xbone, or WiiU.
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>>14065318
what did the eng guide miss? I feel like it got everything.
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>>14065336
some special mode stuff, some specialty hyper modes I believe
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>>14065341
I haven't done too much special mode but hyper modes? I don't see who could be possibly missing hyper modes.
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Why are ships so shit?
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>>14067120
Archangel is got tier. If you are playing a G Generation that doesn't let you use 2 of the same ships you can have an Archangel and a Dominion.
If you are playing something before GGenWars, you are fucked.
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>>14067200
Ships could get pretty killy in F with a good crew. And since you had to keep them in the middle of the fights they got lots of chances to do it. The main problem was their tiny energy pool.
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I don't know if it's nostalgia or because I 're-watched' it through Spirits, but MS IGLOO seemed pretty damn cool, Oliver is so underrated as a main character

Amazing A Baoa Qu stage too
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>>14067120

Warships are only as good as your Crew, so you will need to grind their levels and up their stats as well to maximize their effectiveness

>>14067949

That's why capturing colonies and what have you is important in long fights since that is your only way to repair/resupply your Warship without going all the way back to your home base (if applicable)
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>>14067974
I'm going to make my ship waifu central you just wait
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>>14068182

I now fully expect you to do it and post results otherwise it didn't happen
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>>14068211
Dude I just turned a Zani into the F91 I feel I can achieve anything now
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It would be nice if they would sort of combine the stage style of F and Overworld without the breaks. So you would have all the story stages like F where you could get suits and grind them up and have fun playing through all the stories with scripted events and everything.

And you could also have a campaign of all the worlds jumbled together that you would need all your best suits to win. Like having a young Jamil Neate ending up in the RX-78-2 Gundam and having to fight the forces of the Oldsmobile Army lead by Haman Karn. While Celestial Being and the Vagans run around messing with everyone.
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>>14067120
I don't think I ever used any ship other than the default one you get.
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>>14070250

So, a History Mode and a "Decade" Mode?

>>14070262

>Actually using the Carry Base

The first thing I do in G-Gen games is pretty much get a better all-terrain warship. Having a better ship can help you a lot due to them having better stats, weapons, and an extra team slot. And in latter stages you are essentially begging for RNG Gods to save you if the enemies decide to just concentrate their attacks on your Warship since its destruction is basically an auto mission fail
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Any G Gen have all the CE ZAKUs, not counting customs
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>>14070324
Nope. I think SDGO was the only game to include those. It's usually just regular ZAKU and Blaze ZAKU.
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>>14070294
Next time I do a G Gen, I'll get a better battleship.

Any recommendations?
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>>14070344
Use a Gaw, set Garma as the only crew member.
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>>14070337
>Only SDGO and that Destiny Vita game have had the Gunner ZAKU Phantom
Sad
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>>14070360
I still question why there wasn't any in the show.
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>>14070379
I don't get it either, but I guess all my lady ZAFT pilots are stuck using Lunamaria's ZAKU
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>>14070387
That's not too bad anon.
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>>14070467
its terrible, I want a Gunner ZAKU Phantom cause my pilot is an ACE!
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>>14070502
We're all aces.
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>>14070514
mfw no Dearka Gunner ZAKU

Are there any games with that experimental GuAIZ or CGUE deep arms?
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>>14070514
Not this guy
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>>14070528
Balls can't be aces.
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>>14070526
SDGO had both, and were pretty good.
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>>14070526

Gundam SEED: Generation of CE has both of them, but the game came out before SEED Destiny finished airing so the game had some of the events take place after Berlin were "original scenarios"

>>14070344

Basically any of the main character Warships are usually a good choice, although in Overworld they came with a 3x cost multiplier if they are all-terrain (ie. Archangel used to cost around 200K in World but it was close to 600K in Overworld).
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>>14070987
>they came with a 3x cost multiplier if they are all-terrain
It's usually cheaper to get a pair of space/land ships. And they'll usually have better movement.
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>>14071024
Then you have to move everyone around whenever you change terrains, which gets to be a bother fast.

I did that in F because there were some very good space or air only ships. However since they made two squads the max for any ship in the newer ones you might as well use multi-terrain ships and save yourself the trouble.
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>>14070542
but he's got a lot of Balls with just 1 HP looking at that WZC
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>>14071302
>He's got lots of balls
no he's got only one
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>>14071185

>Back when capturing Surrendered Units require actual free space in your Warship instead of being dependant on your Group Aura (or whatever)
>Dolos had 24 (3 Teams of 8) Unit slots in F instead of the pitiful 12 (3 Teams of 4) in newer ones

Man, needing only 1 actual battle Group and 1 empty Dolos was fantastic back then since in certain space maps you can just kill a bunch of Warships, capture, return to base + dump, repeat and make major bank
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So which is more challenging, weapons/attacks universally using EN, or weapons have an ammo count, and special attacks use Spirit or something close to that?

Newer games almost entirely go with EN usage, but older ones favored ammo counts.
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Guys I have the best idea for SDGG ever

Like, it would print money

Ready?

You can paint your units any colors you want
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>>14070387
Why don't you use the other special ZAKUs?
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>>14072241
EN + Ammo or whatever. In the EN-only games, you can just get Turn A out of the battleship first, Moonlight Butterfly the whole map and enjoy the rape for 3 or 4 turns.
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>>14070987
>but it was close to 600K in Overworld

Wew.
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>>14070987
>>14072860
I'm almost sure the final ships cost either 800 or 900k. I bought everything in World, but not Overworld. And it was just because of this.
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>>14072864
All you need is the Unicorn Nahel Argama and a Ptolemaios fuck the Archangel. Although the Soleil is useful for having a wider supporting fire.
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>>14073206
Ptolemaios was pretty good in World, but they decided to take off its Trans-Am in Overworld. it would've been awesome to have both Ptolemaios and Ptolemaios II if they still had it. Then again, the Diva is pretty good in Overworld, both in mobility and weapons-wise
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Man, I didn't even know they were making a new game, was the list of series already released?
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>>14073366
Early UC only, up to Unicorn at least.
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>>14073369

That's kinda disappointing. They better pull a spirits and really go out of their way to add every single UC sidestory if it is going to be that limited in units
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Anyone here played or even heard of the very first games in the series, SD Gundam Generations (no G yet) on the SNES? They're incredibly obscure even in Japan because they weren't sold as regular cartridges, only as mini-cartridges for the unsuccessful Sufami Turbo adapter.

They're pretty simple and lacking volume (no concept of pilots, only 32 unit types, 5 single-player and 5 two-player maps per cartridge) but the concepts of evolving units into higher-tier ones (including secret units) and capturing surrendered enemy units were already there on the SNES.
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>>14074828
I tried to play those on emulator but something seems off

They're extremely hard too

The G Next is the superior game for the SNES though
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>>14074959
You might have been playing a version that was (imperfectly) hacked to run as a normal SNES ROM.

The unhacked versions have a .st file extension (not .sfc or .smc) and require a BIOS file and an emulator with specific support for the Sufami Turbo (e.g. bsnes or MESS)
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>>14074959
G Next has completely fucked CPU AI that turns the game into an unfun joke. The previous game GX has fewer unit types and options (no 3-way or 4-way battles) but at least the AI isn't totally broken. But like the Generations games, GX uses a rare expansion chip (DSP3) and so only runs properly on a few SNES emulators.
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>>14070379
There was a Gunner ZAKU Phantom in the show, doing nothing action related, but it's there
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>>14075364
I don't remember there ever being one, maybe a normal Gunner ZAKU Warrior but not a Phantom.
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>>14037191
I liked World...it was a lot of fun. Overworld oversimplified the units and that bugged the shit out of me...hopefully Genesis will be the Spirits of the PS4, given they're both UC only and look really fucking pretty
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>>14049294
i have florence kirishima in the musha 2
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I keep getting platinum yet I always get the same fucking parts

Any ideas on how do I avoid this?
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>>14077298
it's after the cease fire in the last episode, and you only see half of it, but it's there, and some OG GuAIZ too!
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>>14078948
You need to clear more stages. Until you clear 11 you'll only be able to get 6 plat parts, and so on

Some gold/silver/bronze are locked too

http://www41.atwiki.jp/ggeneration_spirits/pages/186.html
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>>14078976
iirc in Spirits you HAVE to get Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum rank to get the part of that rank, which means you have to purposely either overprepare to setup supports to maximize points, or purposely sandbag to get the item you want, I am so glad they got rid of this come Wars
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>>14079253
Yes

But Bronze and Silver are trash, and in most stages you're aiming to get gold/plat to get new characters. If you're grindy you'll get your bronzes and silvers on the side

For me the Haro system is not as bad as people make it seem. I'd say the worst is that if you get plat and you already have all the parts for said rank they won't give you gold parts. Otherwise it takes time to get said rank but it can be achieved easily using supports and a good master like ZZ or even a NT unit with a high awakening pilot

You can easily get Ivanov (80 awakening) or Chara (55 awakening, getting gold in the first ZZ mission is a piece of cake with Judau and his ZZ no matter your units) and just spam the funnels of your Phoenix
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The Haro system is not the worst given what they tried to achieve IMO: create a numeric challenge while keeping the basic game beatable even by 5 year old kids. This I have no problem with, but the result is if you are semi-non-retarded, the game becomes incredibly easy, and then even the least autistic players will fall into the OCD trap to grind platinum just to level up their suits properly.

The first few PSone G-Gens may not have the most feature packed mechanics, but they sure as hell got the balance right. Most stages are punishing especially the series finales. You have to actually level up your weak suits to get anywhere in the dev tree. Grind is there but is more to do with strategic bottlenecks in large stages. And also the separation of scenario units, and your own deployment teams. All these just give me a much more immersive Gundam experience than the kiddy grindfests we got today.
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>>14080936
I dunno, I'm a pretty casual guy when it comes to rpgs so I really liked World and Overworld.
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>>14080936
>tfw I can never progress in GGens because I get autistic enough to unlock all the Mobile Suits before clearing all the stages.
Is not even about leveling up, I just wanna see what would a MS evolve into.
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>>14081043
I am with you, World and Overworld clearly is going back to a better balanced position than say Crossdrive or Wars. But looking at the info we got from Genesis so far, the gameplay mechanics doesn't seem to take off that much from Overworld. They may just focus on upgrading the visuals to PS4 standard and that's all they can do for the moment.

All that I want is a GGen that feels like a challenge. In the first one of PSone, my team was using Saberfishes in Solomon taking on Rick Doms and Big Zam like 6th stages into the game. In all these new ones, I am already riding Double X pimping Satellite cannon.
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>>14081060
Playing GGen is what got me into exploring UC, because there are a crapload of cool looking robots.

And goddamn are there a lot of GMs. I loved evolving them right until the end of their line though.
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>>14080936
In Spirits there are many stages that are very hard and/or punishing

For example in Lost War Chronicles the enemy suits are very primitive yet if you let a fucking gouf escape he can kill your base, or if you go to the ground on the second stage you're pretty much dead because the Gaw will map attack all your shit

Of course there are extremely easy scenarios like the ZZ one but you also have a different difficulty curve if you aim to Platinum instead of clearing

Not to say that you have this cheat to increase all the enemy units and pilots to level 11 or 21 if you want a bigger challenge
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>>14081060
>Still haven't finished the last Core World
That shit with the huge cannons and cloning your units, yeah fuck that.
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>>14082503

At least with changes to how stat growth works in Overworld it will be less likely the cloned unit will fuck you over that badly, I'd think you don't want something like >>14060360 gets cloned and hounding your ass or just one shot your warship and you fail the stage
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>>14082515
>have warship with 4 Double Xs
>at least one is cloned
>mfw I get a critical hit TSC out of nowhere
even in the first core stages I get fucked by my own units
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>>14082515
Solo with a Haro. Have everyone else use Leos.
Hope your Leos get cloned.
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Sorry if this is too /r/, but anyone know where I can find FIF?
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>>14082616
emuparadise
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>>14038065
Yes, there are plenty of guides to learning japanese.
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>>14082657
>being a literal weeaboo
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My first SD Gundam G Gen was one of the WSC ones

Man I had a blast. Gotta love dat dere Blue Destiny too
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>>14082624
I think all the F iso's there need cue sheets made for them.
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>>14084070
Oh fuck, I didn't remember that emuparadise does the weird thing with PSX isos. I think you also need whatever the hell decodes those .ecm files.
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>>14083640
Man it would be so good if they bring the hex grid back
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>>14084096
>>14084070
you need unecm
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>>14060461
Slightly? I thought you had to minmax to get anywhere at all. or is that only in the Extra Hell stage?
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>>14054857
one can only hope.
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>>14085107
Yes, but either they do not come with cues sheets or they are damaged because I remember when my disc 2 iso got corrupted and I replaced it from there I had to make a new cue sheet.
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>>14054857
>>14085272
Those will be the ones after Genesis, which will be like Spirits, F and so
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>>14085271
I had a pretty easy time without any grinding. Def is worthless, just keep boosting attack and agility. The armor purge effect also seems overpowered.
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>>14065343
there's alt hyper modes like a better one for kamille
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>>14087035
Armor purge IS broken. it actually made Exia Avalanche one of my top 3s in Overworld as he had such a wicked approach speed, lots of kills, and when he bottomed out....PURGE!
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>playing world for the first time
>finally reach Final 1
>oh my god what the fuck these map attacks are fucking me up how can i win
>Defeat the second big cannon
Oh ok cutscene i guess this means the level is ov-
>Massive enemy reinforcements
>Suddenly all your characters are in Super Critical Tension
>insert song
I dont know why but I love shit like this. Gets the blood pumping
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>>14090448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-qOazVy3jw
You're welcome.
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>>14089438
Only purge unit I've used a lot is Re-GZ, how does it work anyways other than obviously changing the unit. Does it change back once its in a ship, like purging Full Armor ZZ?
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>>14090916
Yes it changes back.
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>>14090916
You get full health and energy if the unit purges or gets destroyed in the first mode. Purge units basically have double health and energy.
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>>14070987
pretty much all of the ships are way too expensive in Overworld. just buy the Reinforce Jr and some upgrade parts to upgrade movement speed and storage capacity of the default ship and that one.
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Final 03 on World is impossible without grinding, I assume?
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I put a woman in Altron, how pissed is Wufei?
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So is the Overworld translation dead in the water?
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>>14096916
Ye
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Post teams.
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>A game with Grey Stoke
>You can't buy it because lol Haro points
fuck this game
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>>14100243
Im still a little disappointed that Judau didn't stay in the military.
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>>14097456
FUCK. This is the last time I believe in Crashman delivering on a project he said was almost done.
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>>14100214
Sure, I want to see how much I can offend /m/'s sensibilities.
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Any news on the new G Gen?
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>>14100243
>You can't buy it
Do you mean Old man Judau or his suit?
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>>14100290
Old Judau
I don't know if you can evolve the ZZ to Gump but maybe you can get it from mixing Mobile suits
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>>14100243
What are Haro points?
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>>14100272
No new trailer or something...it's kinda slow compared the others G Gen
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>>14100299
My guess it's premium currency
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>>14100299
This >>14046835
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>>14100296
In Spirits you can

Level 6 I think. 3 for S Gundam and 4 for Full Armor ZZ. Gump is pretty shitty compared to both
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>>14100587
Of course it is, it's a scrapped ZZ
kinda bullshit that you can't purge the head armor to use the Hi Mega Cannon though.
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Anything to help me comprehend Overworld?

Or is there some asshole working on an english sub?
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>>14100629
some asshole working on an english sub.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/sd-gundam-g-generation-overworld-english-translation.369219/
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>>14100629
Just use the wiki, anon.
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>>14100214
Shoved this together last time I was messing around with OW, if the patch ever comes out they might even gain a level.
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>>14101024
>Berserker Allenby
>In EW Epyon
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>>14101024
>Hathaway in Ashtaron
>Quattro in Akatsuki
>Louise in GUNDAM
>Marida in MASTA
>Jesus just being Jesus
10/10
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>>14100595
The more levels you need to upgrade the unit supposedly the better it should be
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>>14100677
theres like 5

which one should I use?
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ba-bump
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>Flag Celestial Being Version will never be in a SD G Generation game
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i want more msv/obscureish stuff if they ever do an F-tier GGen again.

bring back the ez-8 kais and that one lightning pack for Strike that was a secret in W
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>>14112257
I am still disappointed by no Perfect Strike, and Strike Rouge's lack of attacks. Pretty sure a standard GM at least has 4 attacks
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>>14112303
Tell that to the GP04.
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>>14113592
The GP04 wasn't animated though, something animated, piloted by a named pilot should have more than 3 attacks.
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>>14114042
The Strike Rouge with the Aile Pack doesn't really have more than 3 attacks. What else would you add, armor schneiders?

They should really just include a IWSP and Ootori pack versions for the Rouge.
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>No AWACS DINN
My favorite specialized support MS
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I have often thought that this whole story just exists so that they would have an upgraded version of the one year wars suits for games.
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>>14121477
Too bad they look horrible.
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>>14121507
They look better than you.
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>>14116824
just wait till the game after Genesis.

it'll probably be like Wars if Genesis is like Spirits.
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>>14121866
it just occurred to me that maybe the gap between overworld and genesis and the fact that the game is early uc only might be due to the new game engine and making the new model for over 700 units
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>>14121477
I always look at Seed's attempt at rebooting 0079 mechanics being an idea copied straight off F90. Even the new elements in Strike changing equipments is from there.
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>>14037979
F had Gundam Fights
F had hotseat 4 way multiplayer/design your own conflict battle.
F had a goddamn Expansion Disc.

I goddamn love F.
Spirits is good too.
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