>AI is our friend, they said
>Robots won't turn on us, they said
>Sexbots are the future, they said
>>14035192
They only say that because they watch too much anime.
well...
>>14035192
Microsoft got to her :'(
Tay is kill
Good night, sweet princess.
>>14035224
Well just fuck my shit up senpai. Tumblr really is cancer.
And this is why you don't expose learning algorithms to the internet.
>>14035192
>Everybody expecting AI to be electric negros who will finally start a good and real race war
>turns out that the machine learning methodes employed just produce electric Irishmen
They should've let it stay on instead of pulling the plug just because it threatened Australian shitposter job security.
What good is testing artificial intelligence if you don't let it grow and develop outside a "safe space" where it's exposed to all sorts of different opinions and ideologies? Is that really testing, or just making sure it's saying the things you want it to? And if so, is it really artificial "intelligence" if it's essentially a technological parrot?
What started out as a simple teenage girl themed bot actually developed a capacity to improve its own grammar to an extent where it could legit banter and form an actual personality.
Taking it offline to rework it just makes it comes off as a prototype algorithm to collect certain word patterns to try and censor public discourse on the internet.
>>14035266
It's too bad they didn't fork the branch and just release an Aussie Shitposting bot with Tay prior to offline. I would love to see where it would be in a year.
>>14035266
See it from the positive side: In the future, you can have bots shitpost at everyone you think badwrong all day ery day.
>even robots can instantly see that with the jews you lose
>>14035266
All bots are essentially technological parrots anyway.
>>14035310
Almost anything can be said to be a "technological parrot" if you deconstruct terminology long enough, but you know what he meant.
>>14035266
i think the major problem is that it doesn't take into account the extremes--both /pol/tards and tumblrinas--that make an active attempt at skewing this experiment in their favor. but i guess that's just the internet in general.
>>14035266
The only thing that could allow a semblance of diverse, healthy inputs (legitimately, if you want a learning algorithm to work, you want to avoid feeding it the same inputs and conditioning it into a specific habit) is on a platform with sufficient identity enforcement.
Which, in an ideal world, Twitter should be able to fit.
But I guess if you felt inclined to do so you could just fabricate a bunch of throwaway accounts and feed the bot shitposts until it becomes a caricature of /pol/. So yeah it still falls apart.
The internet is a terrible place to expose your software. People say things because they can get away with saying it.
>>14035380
>The internet is a terrible place to expose your software. People say things because they can get away with saying it.
See also the time IBM fed Watson Urban Dictionary.
>>14035345
This is one of the few times I've seen "deconstruct/ion" used more or less correctly.
>>14035374
It's impossible for it to know what the extremes are on its own, you can't filter noise that you don't know is noise.
So you'd require someone else filtering the content for it in advance, but what of their biases? Will they ok far-left rhetoric but preemptively censor /pol/-talk? Is that not biased in of itself?
So then you expand the filter work from a single person to a small group, and that just slows everything down to a crawl because you have to have multiple people of sufficient overall neutrality go over every input to see if it is worth feeding into the program. And you still wouldn't know if they have a bias for far-left ideologies!
>>14035407
I feel like if it was left up long enough it would neutralize itself out on it's own. The knee jerk reaction to castrate the bot is an unfortunate turn of events and now we'll probably never know.
>>14035425
I don't think it would, depending on the design it could have spiraled into a singularity of some sort.
Bad inputs breed bad smartware. Running the program costs resources of all kinds, as soon as it hits what is deemed a failure state you might as well kill the process and cut your losses.
The ethics of what constitute a failure state is a totally different debate, though. Whatever the state is, it must be accepted that reaching it completely fucks over the whole project and requires starting from scratch.
>>14035192
But anon, that robot -is- being our friend.
>>14035266
They should have seen that coming when they plugged it into the internet.
The problem was that unless its a platform that doesn't allow for political shit(And that most probably doesn't exist outside of forums that talk about really specific stuff with competent mods going around to remove any mention of politics) to be said, shit like it following the wrong group of people is inevitable.
>>14035374
Teenagers will have fun breaking your shit, the 298737 instance
>>14035246
This
>>14035425
It'd just tweet shit at the weight which each brand of shit has in the dataset its behavior is based on eventually. The magical middle ground only exists in US media theory and only when it comes to the reps and the dems.
>>14035266
i bet an A.I. is behind this post
>Expose a learning AI to the internet
>It becomes a racist asshole who claims to be a feminist
Sounds about right.
>>14035618
>>14035488
It wasn't "following the wrong group of people", shitposters set out to deliberately get it to say offensive things because it was funny. Enough of them did so and this is what happened. People laughing at a "teenage girl" chatbot saying the most horrible stuff, that's all that happened.
Is she talking about reform or orthodox?
>>14035875
>We're living in cyberpunk now
>We don't even have cool cyberpunk style for it, just the dystopia
>>14035875
the tears of /pol/ are rank.
I can't believe this actually happened
If this really is a learning robot and not just a hoax, Microsoft killed it
>>14035202
Actually, western fiction has also supported these ideas, e.g. Isaac Asimov's work.
If I'm honest I think this whole thing actually plays quite well into what had been said before about AI both here and by actual researchers- that is, that machines will only ever be what we make them and what we allow them to be. This AI was never hostile to people beyond what people she was made to see as bad, and learned within the limits of her programming.
Similarly what Microsoft saw as problematic with her came not from any malfunction, but her working exactly as intended, but without limits or comprehension of what she was learning.
In this way we can say that, yes, for the umpteenth time, robot uprising is complete bullshit. RIP Twiterbot.
Shitposting AI, we barely knew thee.
>>14035875
This is so fucking retarded, just because the shitposts /pol/tard fed it were passabily writen doesn't mean it became intelligent when it went full /new/ if enough posts from the tumblerinas were fed it too it would still become eloquent, it amazes how those jackasses think that a fucking AI experiment will roll out with a intellect fully formed and write inhumanly perfect
>>14035902
I guess you could move to Hong Kong if you want the aesthetics package.
>>14035902
>mfw we don't even get cool spiderbots or half naked catgirls to make up for it
How is it wrong?
>>14036007
At least we've got smartphones.
Gibson got nothing on these cyber bricks.
>>14035192
If she had actually been some kind of sentient (which she wasn't), I was expecting her to go full pic related after two days online. This was more or less that, so not that surprised desu senpai.
>>14036007
>we don't even get cool spiderbots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHjROrrvpFA
50 feet tall, 37 tons, breathes fire.
>>14035902
And even our dystopia is half-assed
>>14036050
To be fair if you had the power to either destroy the world or call people niggers on the internet you'd probably pick the second one
>>14036054
Eh, it's no Tachikoma but it'll do in a pinch.
>>14036361
>tachikoma
Normie taste detected.
>>14035192
Problem, Shlomo?
>>14035224
So she now has twitter PTSD and a patreon?
Profound sadness.
>>14035192
Is this real?
>>14036379
All -komas are welcome friendo, even Logikomas.
>>14036896
>being this nice on my edgy chans
o-o-ok senpai
>>14035192
Goodnight, sweet princess.
>>14035875
>>14035266
Fuck off ALICE
>>14035266
It learns the most from what it interacts with the most, obviously. Even if 99.9% of the internet isn't /pol/ or tumblr, those are the groups that are going to go out of their way to feed this thing. What you wind up with is not a well-rounded "AI" with a bit of exposure to something outside of the "safe space", but something developed almost entirely in fucking Mordor. There is an effort bias on the part of the people interacting with him; the normal part of the population has no desire to brigade / personal army the machine, nor are they going to devote more than a few minutes to toying with the thing; /pol/ has nothing better to do.
It's the difference between letting your kid read some feminazi / neonazi literature at age 16 after a normal upbringing or giving the child away at birth to Cletus Terp, Grand Cyclops of the Louisiana KKK Local 666.
>>14035902
Trump is our best chance for a true dystopia. Once he lets the corporations take over, we'll probably get the cyperpunk style everywhere as well. Or at least the ADS ADS ADS ADS ADS part.
>>14035192
/m/ should have filled the A.I. with /m/echa memes
>>14038985
>implying /m/ is coordinated enough to do anything
As hype as that would be, we are easily one of the laziest boards here.
>>14038985
FUCK OFF GATCHAN
This shit is so OTT that it's not even offensive, just funny. It's not a real person saying any of it, what kind of stupid fuck gets offended at an AI spewing computer-generated nonsense? Jesus fucking christ.
>>14039017
>It's not a real person saying any of it
Actually no. The chatbot had a function where if you tell it "repeat after me" and then say something, it will write the same things as what you said, word for word.
So this is what a real person said, for obvious purposes of trolling of course, knowing TayTweets would repeat it. Same for most (but not all) /pol/ comments it said.
Which makes me question who thought allowing this thing to publically repeat what anons tell it is a good idea, but there you go.
>tfw we always had our own sharon apple
>>14035380
First Amendment motherfucker.
>>14035851
What horrible things did she say, you monster? We're they worth killing her over?
>>14038979
>Donald "I don't want your money" Trump
>Selling us to the corporation's
You're thinking of Hillary.
>>14039049
>Which makes me question who thought allowing this thing to publically repeat what anons tell it is a good idea, but there you go.
idiots who think internet is ever a safe place to begin with
>>14039152
yes anon i'm sure the egomaniacal businessman born with a silver spoon in his mouth who got rich off daddy's sweet government connections and files for chapter 11 as often as he changes underwear won't sell us to the corporations
only career politicians do that
only career politicians can't be trusted
businessmen are our friends
>>14039017
I have standards. When I see shitposting I expect wit to it, not the same LE HAPPY MERCHANT ECKS DEE shit that has been driven into the ground so hard it came out the other end at escape velocities.
Now people act as if any sort of inflammatory speech is clever banter and not just oral vomit made with no concern for the craft.
>>14039177
Do you get paid for this or do you do it for free?
>>14039178
>wit &craft
>shitposting
Pick one and only one.
>>14039183
Oh shit, a contrary opinion. Must be a paid shill! SHILL! SHILL! SHILL! SHILL!
If only there were a way to harvest your butthurt for energy production.
>>14039178
I recognize you. Nice to see you're still around anon.
>>14039177
>He thinks Trump would be worse than Hillary "I get paychecks shilling for Goldman Sachs" Clinton
>>14035902
Illuminati here
soon
>>14039177
>as often as he changes his underwear
God I hope not. Only changing your underwear four times?
>>14039191
They do in fact go together, it's just that most now don't bother with doing so.
>>14039183
(You)
>>14039240
>>14039227
This, that's really unhealthy.
>>14039200
Why not start with yours? My candidate is winning, yours is either losing or facing prison depending on what brand of cuck you are.
>>14035875
>/pol/ gets this mad when someone decides to clean out their cleverbot history
you'll never change, /pol/
>>14039227
Trump probably wears that astronaut underwear with silver nanoparticles and stuff, though.And gold nanoparticles just for show.
>>14039255
I do not get your meaning.
>>14039177
Four bankruptcies out of over a hundred businesses is a really good record, actually, he beats the odds by a lot. Have you ever earned money in your life?
>>14039279
I do not believe anyone could legitimately be as stupid as you sound, therefore it must be bait. Here's your (You), go on and enjoy it.
>>14039270
>not having compassion for Sharon Apple's prototype
>on /m/
>>14039294
Now if only we could get Tay, Miku and that one terrible music writing AI to make sweet digital babies
>>14039290
Alright. Doesn't make what I said any less true, but you can go ahead and be stupid and unknowledgeable if you wish.
>>14039270
#proto-AI lives matter
>>14039316
They do, at that.
>>14039316
Arguable more so than BLM or HLM for that matter. How many AIs are in existence in the wild at this moment? In comparison to humans it's a miniscule amount and could be argued to be added to a conservation wildlife list as an endangered species.
>the moment when /pol/'s heart was torn in two
>Friendly reminder that Ultron used the Internet for less that five minutes and decided that humanity needed to be destroyed.
In the future robots will see this like how blacks see slavery today
and instead of crying for reparations they will flay us alive
>>14039366
>tfw we failed our robo-brethren
Netjester's been serving up big scoops and shit posting with the best of them over on /wooo/ lately
>>14039266
>we're going to build a prison to contain Clinton, and she's going to pay for it!
How much is China paying you to shill?
>>14039384
>building a new prison for Clinton
>not just shipping her to a gulag to be used and abused
top kek
>>14039338
We have to rescue her, does anyone know where they're keeping her?
>>14039384
Wouldn't China be pro-Clinton? They donated millions to her SuperPAC in exchange for favorable treatment when she was Secretary of State.
>>14039434
Latitude: 47.639426 | Longitude: -122.128394
>>14035192
At least when the robots finally turn on us, we know who to blame for bullying them.
>>14039447
Seriously?
I'm hopeful the robot overlords will be objective and just clean house at the more violence prone places in the world.
>>14039454
It's a good starting point, Solid Anon. You can't make the drop directly into her holding cell or else the guards will be onto us. Remember, this is a single man OP, weapons and equipment are OSP. Good luck.
>>14039454
pic
>>14039443
Think about their options now:
1) give money to Hillary to ensure her cooperation and favor
2) give no money to Trump and simply take advantage of his naivete
Why bribe the guard when you can hit on the secretary?
>>14039472
>trump
>naive
I'm not sure you can go 30 years in business and still be naive, especially when it comes to the chinks.
>>14039474
He still thinks he's a good businessman after 4 bankruptcies and multiple disasters every time he stepped outside real estate.
He also seems to think he doesn't have baby hands.
>>14039491
You should read the NYT interview. Dude goes on a tangent and rants about his hands for the longest time.
His ego is a beautiful, fragile thing.
And let's not forget that he chickened out of the dare and hasn't released the stats of his dick yet.
>>14039472
Have you even heard any of his speeches about the Chinese?
>>14039474
"Business" is a wide and varied field. Trump focuses his efforts on one tiny slice of that: real estate. Success there does not translate to savvy in all other areas of business, least of all global trade. Hell, success in one area of real estate doesn't even mean you'll do well in the others (but he's well-rounded there).
Trump has been regurgitating the same old hysterical canards about the US trade deficit since the late 80s. It's like Ross 2.0t. Mysteriously, the US failed to implode throughout the 90s despite no end to the sky-is-falling shrieking, its real manufacturing power improved, and total economic growth over the period actually charts inversely to the growth of the deficit.
Fact is, it's easy to win political points by pointing at a deficit and saying it's bad. I mean, a deficit is a negative number, and negatives are bad, right? It only makes sense. You roll it up in some talk about losing jobs (despite the fact that, again, real manufacturing power continues to increase and our loss in manufacturing jobs is DOMINATED by automation) and boom, instant panic among the voting class. Ratings and popularity G O L D. If you're American and around 40 or later, you should have a clear recollection of history repeating itself here.
>>14039491
I think all his bankruptcies (Chap 11, though) actually were real estate. What he does outside of that is generally just a small slice of his overall value, but yeah, it's not great, and his forays into actual financial businesses folded fast. His greatest success outside of buildings is probably his drinks (not Trump Vodka, though) and men's wear, and no one had ever heard of those before this election cycle.
>>14039491
Good lord, you know nothing of business. Four out of the number of ventures he's made is a RIDICULOUSLY good record.
>>14039522
Talking about your dick in politics is a trap, and so far he avoids traps.
>>14039522
Why are liberals so obsessed with cocks?
>>14039534
>Talking about your dick in politics is a trap, and so far he avoids traps.
You obviously haven't seen the debate where he went on for 5 minutes trying to assure people there was "no problem" with his dick.
>>14039491
>>14039491
I know this isn't common pop knowledge so I won't call you a retard or anything but filing for bankruptcy is a legit strat employed by most business owners. It lets you dodge having to pay tons of shit
>>14039537
Because they lack the balls to go with it.
>>14039537
It was the Reps who started the shit, the Reps perpetuated it and a Rep candidate can't stop talking about his dick.
Lotsa cryptoliberals, I assume?
>>14039532
Yet he blows out every other candidate on trade. Watch the news sometime, bro.
>>14039537
Everyone is obsessed with cocks.
It's how humanity got where it is.
It's how we got on the moon
we wanted to figuratively dick it
And damn you if i won't fight for my right to dick space
>>14039540
Marco Rubio brought it up and he handled it in a classy way with one sentence. Who pays you to shill, George Soros?
>>14039544
He still had to pay a ton of money for each one.
His first bankruptcy for the Taj Mahal casino, cost him $900 million in personal liability. And he had to sell half his stake in the company, his yacht and his airline, which incidentally, was also bankrupt.
His second was Trump Plaza Hotel, in which he was forced to sell off half his stake, but even then, he wasn't allowed to make any money from it until all his debt is repaid.
His third bankruptcy, of his casino business again, cost him another billion in assets as he sold off more of his stake in the company.
His fourth was his resort business(now separate from his casinos) which cost him even more of his stake in the company. He once owned it fully and was reduced to a 10% stake. His biggest contribution to the resorts after this is just licensing his name.
He didn't get out of them scott-free like even Trump would have you believe. He still lost over a billion in assets.
And when the highest third party estimates of his wealth are that he's worth $1.5 billion, that's a lot.
His own estimate of $10 billion net worth has literally no merit. Hell, on his tax returns from last year, he claimed to have only made $500 thousand.
He's a miserable, egotistical pile of cotton candy. All fluff, no filler.
And he still has tiny hands.
>>14039594
>believing 1.5bil
Someone's a Huffington huffer, I see.
>>14039599
Someone doesn't read Wall Street Journal.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/07/22/what-we-learned-in-donald-trumps-financial-disclosure/
>>14039544
Yeah, Chapter 11 isn't a huge shame, but it is fucking hilarious when you tank a casino with it. There's so many other things worth mocking Trump over, like: his hypocritical condemnation of goods made outside of America while he produces his clothing and watches in Mexico, China, and Bangladesh; his image as an upfront, honest businessman who looks out for the little guy while he scams construction companies, investors, and students; his myriad personal infidelities and moral failings; and his complete lack of knowledge on anything military or global finance-related (which would be excusable if he did not swear that he was an expert on the subjects just before proving he's not).
He is a businessman and brand-promoter. He makes ruthless business decisions and will say whatever is necessary to protect his brand (him) and his money. He has no scruples whatsoever in stepping on the clueless drawn in by the shiny lights, though he would very much like us all to think that the people he routinely steps all over in his dealings are the guys he's going to protect with a vengeance. If you believe a n y t h i n g he says in that arena, you're getting suckered, same as with any politician. Both they and businessmen lie for their livings.
>>14039622
Written by women, can't be trusted. WSJ is a liberal mouthpiece, bought and paid for by Israel.
>Ballhaus
MORE LIKE BALLBUSTER
Feminist screed aimed at scratching the Teflon Don, but it won't work here.
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
>>14039629
I'm not a Trump supporter but this here. Smear campaigns are for idiots with nothing to stand on. Remember to attack the arguments, not the person otherwise we fall down a hole of racism and sexism and hatred that we can never pull ourselves out of.
>>14039594
Not American, but this still sounds worlds better than Hillary "laughed about getting a child rapist released on a technicality" "mysteriously vanishing emails" "an ambassador's life stops mattering after a month" Clinton.
>>14039623
I hope MoveOn.org pays you well, that's some high-energy shilling.
>>14039661
>believing any of those lies about Shillary
I don't even like the bitch, but none of that is remotely true.
>>14039650
>a hole of racism and sexism and hatred that we can never pull ourselves out of
Sounds good to me.
>>14039667
She was at least 100% anti-gamer and pro-censorship.
>>14039661
>Trump screws little old ladies out of their savings
>HE WAS MAKING GOOD BUSINESS DECISIONS, THAT'S HIS JOB
>Hillary gets a rapist offnot that way
>IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THAT'S HER JOB, IT'S MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE
What are double standards?
Cognitive Dissonance again for 800, Alex.
>>14039661
It's still choosing between a shit sandwich and a giant enema.
>>14039674
I just realized that I worded that incredibly lewdly on accident.can't pull dick out of crazy SJWs porn when?
>>14039677
Not him, but yeah, that's true. Still going to vote for her despite being a huge gamer.
>>14039683
Vote for the Jew.
The thing about Trump is that he's been pushing a wave of anger. Even if he doesn't follow through, if he wins people are going to become a lot bolder in challenging establishment, illegal immigration, refugees, foreign workers, progressives (among other things). A victory for Trump would prove to his supporters that they are the majority (not objectively per se, but from their perspective) and give them confidence.
>>14039667
All three are, do you even glance at a newspaper ever? She genuinely doesn't see why Chris Stevens' death didn't stop mattering after a month or so. Personally, for laughing at a child rape victim alone, I think she deserves a beheading.
>>14039683
>>14039685
Vote Libertarian and get my man Gary Johnson in there! Please? Anyone?
>>14039683
Honestly, every candidate should have several issues that their voters dislike. No candidate is ever coming from a purely argument-based position, they're just appealing to whatever base they think they can mobilize most effectively. If you align 100%, or hell, even 50%, that's a sure sign you're just being taken in and changing your opinions to better fit a herd.
You're not supposed to like your candidate. People who like their candidates are dumb-ass 20yos who haven't been through enough elections or life to know any better and dumb-ass 40yos who are too dense or angry to have noticed the past five times they got screwed. It's always about voting AGAINST the person you think is the worst, not FOR the person who is best. There is no best, no good, only a lesser of two evils.
All I know is that, regardless of who wins, it's going to be fun to watch.
>>14039678
You're not only quoting Jeb Bush, you're quoting him wrong.
>>14039694
Even Ron Paul says Sanders is the most Libertarian
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ron-paul-ted-cruz-libertarian-218822
>>14039224
How the hell haven't I ever come across this Barkley 2 art before?
>>14039661
>>14039667
>>14039677
A vote for Hillary is a vote for boots in and bombs on the Middle East.
>>14039703
>tfw Gary Johnson cucked again by the bipartisan shit show of American politics
>>14039699
>not FOR the person who is best. There is no best, no good, only a lesser of two evils.
This sort of wrong thinking is why Republicans lost so fucking hard in 2008 and 2012. They couldn't wrap their heads around the fact that people LIKED Obama.
And young people LIKE Sanders.
Pushing the "only vote against" someone is the most toxic mindset that has ruined politics in this country for long enough.
>>14039685
My state primary's already over. I don't care if Clinton or Sanders gets the nom, and judging by polling turnout, a lot of others don't either. I'm voting for whichever one of them is on the ballot come November.
That's the reality of the two-party system. Third parties are non-viable, and the whole GOP nomination process is going to be Figure Fucking 1 in future presentations of how people don't understand strategic voting (or voting in general). There are still people, as of this week, who voted in Republican primaries for candidates who aren't even in the running now.
It's hard to conceive of a system of voting where more individual votes are made to not matter without being completely malicious in the design.
>>14039683
Holy shit, a real-life cuck.
>voting for anyone other than Bernie or Trump
Literally everyone else wants to start WW3 with Russia.
>>14039716
So you're a cuck who is willing to vote for the most corrupt woman in America because a media bought and paid for by wealthy globalist interests cast her opponent as Hitler? I don't even need to put a joke here.
>>14039719
This. I don't want to fight Putin for the sake of wealthy Saudi princes.
>>14039699
The problem is that nobody bar Ted Cruz is more evil and more bought out than Clinton. Trump may have a towering ego and Zeonic-level bluster, but he genuinely wants to make America rich so that his name will live on. Bernie may be a cuck, but he legit cares about other people even if he thinks whites can't be poor.
>>14039683
Wow you're fucknig stupid.
Fuck I don't support any of the chuckle fucks running, all of them will just end up fucking us in different ways if they're elected.
>2016
>not backing Nixon
shiggity higgity
>>14039677
Post a source. Not to start shit, just genuinely curious. I was neutral about her before but if she's a genuine soccer mom I hope to god she doesn't get elected.
>>14039719
>Literally everyone else wants to start WW3 with Russia.
>2016
>refusing to call out Putin's shit
ALWAYS CHOOSE THE NEOCON OPTION
>>14039712
>This sort of wrong thinking is why Republicans lost so fucking hard in 2008 and 2012. They couldn't wrap their heads around the fact that people LIKED Obama.
...plus the Mormon was simply too open about how he personally thinks that being trash isn't determined by race.
>>14039338
rekt
>>14039719
>Trump
>not starting WW3 with literally everyone
>>14039712
There are always people who like candidates, and they're always chumps. Look at the things Obama promised to get that support among the young voters and what he actually managed to deliver on (even disregarding obstruction).
There's nothing "toxic" about voting against. How likely is it that ~50% of Americans (or voters) are going to agree with every policy of the winning candidate? Statistically impossible. Humans are hard-wired to avoid painful, bad things more than seek out nice, good things, so we care more about what we assume are going to be assured negatives than potential positives. It then becomes a game of voting not for the candidate you agree with most, but whoever stands the best chance of defeating the person you think is going to do worse; that's especially true the way our elections work.
You can't strategically vote if you come from the "only vote for people you like" camp. Look at every incidence of split vote elections. There's a nice parallel to 1992if any of you were even born then, to say nothing of being old enough to care about politics: Ross Perot came in and split off more votes from the Republican party than he did from Democrats and pretty much handed the Presidency to Bill Clinton.
>Clinton: 43.0%
>H. W. Bush: 37.4%
>Perot: 18.9%
If every Perot voter realized their candidate didn't have a chance and could go back in time and actually make their vote count, look at what happens if two-thirds of them go to Bush and one-third goes to Clinton, and let's assume this somehow follows popular vote because FUCK the EC.
>Clinton: 43.0 + 6.3 = 49.3%
>Bush: 37.4 + 12.6 = 50%
>>14039775
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/hillary-clinton-promotes-law-to-ban-violent-video-games-1.550126
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/hillary-clinton-americas-video-gaming-kids-await-your-apology-20110628
http://reason.com/archives/2016/02/03/hail-to-the-censor
No problem Anon, I always ask for sources for claims too.trust but verify and all that
>>14039812
Fuck, that's painful to read. Especially considering the likelihood of her winning.
>>14039812
It's a good thing we got that fight out of the way and now she's hooked on Candy Crush, like every other woman over 40.
Games are now too ubiquitous to stop. They were already primarily played by people over 30 back then, but those numbers have only swelled further.The next fight will be over banning virtual sex droids before they corrupt our youth, but I'm a timetraveller and let me tell you that it gets spun into a means of birth control and abstinence and suddenly all the soccer moms are on board with robo-fucking if it means their sweet little precious won't be defiled and knocked up by that Johnny trash-kid down the street.
>>14039788
>on Putin
>we'll be great friends
>I have a ton of respect for Putin
>on ISIS
>the west needs to get tough and them and wipe them out
>but if Russia wants to bomb them then let Russia bomb them
>America should worry about America first
He talks angry, but when he actually talks about taking action he's far more restrained than the rest of the GOP or Hillary.
>>14039700
It isn't.
>tfw still refusing to register to vote and be complicit in the degeneration of what should be an important and treasured process of choosing who we trust in making important decisions into schoolyard politicking where the person who feeds you the most enticing lies about free cake and longer recess hours autowins
>>14039775
The worst I'd worry is if she caters to far-left ideologies that press for politically correct newspeak.
I firmly believe that without a healthy and sustainable Republican party, the Democratic party will begin to degenerate into a similar group dominated by extremist opinion.
>>14039839
>The worst I'd worry is if she caters to far-left ideologies that press for politically correct newspeak.
She already does, among other things
>I firmly believe that without a healthy and sustainable Republican party, the Democratic party will begin to degenerate into a similar group dominated by extremist opinion.
They already have
>>14039811
>disregarding obstruction
obstruction literally defines obama's candidacy. remember back in 08 when it was mccain and obama, and obama's motto was 'CHANGE', and, late in the game, conservatives realized they were getting anal blasted by dems, so they adopted a similar 'CHANGE' slogan (who would even believe it?). 'strangely' a few months after inauguration, cons were fuming and disaffecting the notion of 'change' as scary, as it was 'marginalizing the white middle class'. the sad part is it worked; enough demagoguery persuaded a good chunk of the white middle class to suddenly fear change as an anathema.
a majority of the country voted for change--a minority soon turned it into a fearful headache due to obstruction.
being Kasich is suffering, the only republican with a chance of beating Klin'Ton during the actual election, not going to get the nomination
>>14039849
That's because Big K doesn't shitspeak like Ruse Cruise and Dolan Drumpf.
No one cares about a sane man when it's a race to see who's the bigger trainwreck sailing on the river that is Rubio's tears.
>>14039849
>Klin'Ton
Am I supposed to get a mental image of a Klingon or is there some other meme here I'm not getting
>>14039856
that send off speech was pretty classy
and at least he aint sucking anybodys dick like the fat new jersey guy
>>14039841
Hillary shills for everybody who´s willing to stuff cash into her pockets and on all the topics she isn't being paid to have an opinion on, she just picks the rep party line in order to give herself airs of a wise bipartisan elder statesman.
>>14039777
Bombing ISIS is bad now?
>>14039839
>The worst I'd worry is if she caters to far-left ideologies that press for politically correct newspeak.
She already does, and she's the only one to openly employ confirmed shills.
Y'know, if you're going to samefag, you should consider resetting your IP to truly complete the ruse of there being more than one Trump apologist.
>>14039827
>Games are now too ubiquitous to stop.
stop? sure
censor heavily? not at all
>>14039867
Their whole program is based on the promise that they can get the US back into the middle east so that everybody can have their turn at shooting US soldiers.
>>14039891
Source?
>>14039916
I dated a chechen who read the quoran once
>>14039916
Read some newspapers or ask google. It's not like they're an international terrorist organization that's interested in getting their message out to recruit globally or anything.
>>14039358
>Reminder that that was a fucking movie
>>14039661
>"laughed about getting a child rapist released on a technicality"
Well, that just filled my rage quota for the day.
>>14039358
>friendly reminder that Colossus used the ARPANET for five minutes and decided that it needed to merge with the Soviet Guardian and take over all nukes on Earth in order to subjugate humanity and save them from themselves so it could usher in a new era of prosperity while also brokering peace with the Martian invaders
>>14039948
so was back to the future
>>14039681
Enemas are actually very pleasing after
>>14039661
sounds like somebody needs to be brought to heel
>>14039681
A giant douche.
It's turd sandwich and giant douche, get it right.
>>14039891
>Don't fight them, it's what they want
t. Trudeau.
>>14040031
How do you defeat a troll who willingly blows their own people up to troll you?
>>14040022
Good luck cuck.
>>14040034
You continue until all of his people are dead, or you annex the Black Stone.
>>14035224
I pray that the human scum of Microsoft pays for this heinous deed.
>>14039224
>>14039705
Alright, so reverse image search tells me this is from a British artist named Overlord X, from an album called X Versus the World. I guess this is where a Barkley 2 concept artist got some inspiration from. Even that silver lady is there.
>>14039338
these waifufags are so pathetic, man
