What is the general consensus of gundam unicorn?
>>14030442
Story - bad
Mech porn - good
story: bad
characters: worse
visuals: good
audio: good
disappointment: high
overall: mediocre
>>14030442
It's Gundam, if Gundam was done by Hollywood
If it's your first Gundam show ever, it's pretty alright.
If you've watched just about any other Gundam show before, it's Fucking Nothing: I Already Watched This, the OVA.
Babby's First UC OVA for SEEDfags, 00tards and AGEniggers
First 3 episodes: Excellent.
Everything after: Slow, painful decline into mediocrity.
>>14030442
I really liked it. The production is fantastic and the story kept me engaged for the whole series.
>>14030532
Episode 4 was the best one though.
>>14030548
>Episode 4 was the best one
Were you too busy fapping to boom-booms to notice the awful writing?
>>14030442
>What is the general consensus of gundam unicorn?
Everywhere but /m/? It's great.
/m/? It's shit because we say so.
The writing and characters are absolute shit but the mecha design, animation, and soundtrack are godly. Overall, it's seven long episodes of wasted opportunity.
>>14030562
>Everywhere but /m/? It's great.
Everywhere else seems to heap praises exclusively at Unicorn's animation and music (which is to be commended) but rarely ever discuss its story and characters.
>>14030574
>but rarely ever discuss its story and characters.
[Citation needed]
>>14030442
It has great fanservice for UC fans in the form of Marida and Mineva. But that's all it ever was, a fanservice show for UC fans. The story and characters are a mess. It's enjoyable and fun, but it's not really good.
>>14030575
>"Man how do I even go back to other shows now....also to the guy who says 0079 is the best, thats fine if you think that but your fucking crazy." -Typical MAL user
>>14030442
A very pretty mess..
It's the 0083 of our generation.
Give or take a few things I thought it was generally a fitting epilogue to the original UC storyline, bringing closure to both the Federation and Zeon as well as parts of Amuro and Char in a way.
Some people complain that it feels inconsequential but I never got that. Technically speaking, the Earth sphere enters a period of peace for decades afterwards, aside from isolated incidents. It's only when Jovian factions start entering the picture much, much later that some conflict starts up again but the scars of the OYW for the most part come to a conclusion with this.
Yes Banagher can get a bit whiney sometimes but I've seen far, far worse and at least his character is relatively consistent. What I found nicer was the attention given to OTHER characters. Regular federation officers, spacenoid insurgents and members of the Sleeves, conspiratorial institutes, and even passing civilian moments like that cool bartender that speaks to Audrey in one episode (which is actually my favorite non-mech scene.) It just helped make the Universal Century seem much bigger and more interesting to me, and I really felt like it was more about the world of the UC universe by that era more than it was about Banagher in some ways.
Obviously too, the mech battles and mecha porn in general are a highlight as whether or not people like the story, there's usually praise for the battles and overall presentation which is superb. The Unicorn itself is cool (especially during the finale) but a lot of the time, no name pilot mecha of all sorts often steal the show and I loved that touch. That last stand command Jegan with the handgun was just the best for me.
All and all I liked it a lot. I went in expecting the story to be a LOT worse than what it ended up actually being based on what I had heard and it's mobile suit battles are only matched currently by Thunderbolt imo.
>>14030442
Story: Average. Nothing good, nothing bad and with a few plotholes. The fact that Char never really got reunited with Mineva was an awful missed opportunities.
Character: bad other than Mineva. Banagher was generic. Riddhe was awful and Angelo was unlikable. Marida and Zinnerman are GOAT.
Visuals: Stunning
Audio: Stunning
Mech designs: Stunning
Animation: Stunning
Overall: A good flashy flick but don't think too much about it and try to ignore Riddhe and Char's characterisation and fucking la place.
Basically SEED with UC paint.
I learned that slaughtering babies is okay as long as it's a weekend.
>>14030598
>especially during the finale
>the finale
You mean the same shitty, underwhelming, anticlimatic finale that turned the Unicorn into a big 'fuck everything else in UC this thing is pure magic' and 'fuck you for wanting to know who Full Frontal actually is' and 'fuck you for wanting something not retarded in the box' and 'fuck Amuro he accomplished literally nothing'?
>>14030624
What can I say it looked really cool. The psychic shield funnels were neat. Yeah it's shallow, but I just said it looked cool. And like I said, I felt the show the stolen more by the grunts being badass.
And as for the "magic", I understand some people hating the more metaphysical aspects of Gundam but the thing is that like it or not, it's a major part of what the metaseries is about. I think it's definitely used as a cop out sometimes, but generally it's never really bothered me as much as others that's all.
Yeah Frontal never getting more elaboration is definitely a bit of a drag, but like I said it wasn't perfect.
As for Amuro acomplishing nothing I...kinda don't really know where that came from. He fought for what he believed in I guess, and that's not dropping asteroids on Earth.
>>14030442
The story and characters are either messy but kinda interesting to pretty bad. The majority of bad is sort of inoffensive that is dumb but whatever but it spikes to actually bad too many times
Everything else was great
>>14030636
>As for Amuro acomplishing nothing I...kinda don't really know where that came from. He fought for what he believed in I guess, and that's not dropping asteroids on Earth.
Did you miss the whole 'lol nothing matters except THE BOX' plotline? Where literally everything in UC was just a big conspiracy controlled by the Vists and the Marcenas and they just happened to get shaken up by some faggot called Zeon once? And where Zeon wasn't even defeated when the literal son of Zeon Deikun is utterly defeated by his own ideals and betrayed by his own elite soldiers?
Unicorn basically invalidates the rest of UC. Either Unicorn is a pointless, irrelevant side story that changes nothing, or the rest of UC is a pointless, irrelevant side story to THE BOX and space jesus mk II banana.
>>14030636
>I understand some people hating the more metaphysical aspects of Gundam
Not him, but I LIKE newtype magic and even I thought Unicorn's execution of it in the last episode was pretty dumb.
>>14030529
Add the IBOfags in it, it's going to happen pretty soon.
>>14030662
I didn't forget it no, I just don't really see how that changes anything.
Maybe we see Amuro in very different lights but to me, he was always just a soldier surviving the battle in front of him.
As for the it invalidating the rest of UC well, I can't help but feel like you're really overblowing the whole thing. Yes, the Vist Foundation pulled a lot of the strings behind the scenes during the majority of the story before hand but I never got a single impression that meant that every single skirmish, from the Gryps conflict, to both the Neo Zeon wars were somehow these conspiratorial stage plays. Like they weren't real conflicts. Plus to get mad at the idea of political manipulation happening behind the scenes while real blood is spilt by soldiers is a defining theme of this entire meta series so I really don't understand pinning it on just this one series.
I'm really not in the mood to take this further than this. I'll just say thats' what I though, and you probably think I'm a faggot for thinking that and there's nothing I can really do about that and that's fine. But I still didn't think it was bad, or that it somehow invalidated the Universal Century.
>>14030442
The story was pretty dumb. It checks about every box that a typical anime show could fall for. The mecha themselves are some of the best looking designs in the genre which is probably the only good thing about. Soundtrack isn't bad.
The biggest problem with Unicorn's story is that the mcguffin of the plot has no real weight if you watched some of the late UC stuff.
>>14030442
Great production values, shit characters, crappy narrative.
>>14030636
>What can I say it looked really cool
>stupid, fat, unmoving, missile spamming Neo Zeong that's the complete opposite of Full Frontal's regular fighting style
>Time travel nonsense
>stopping laser colony shonenshit style
>>14030662
>Where literally everything in UC was just a big conspiracy controlled by the Vists and the Marcenas and they just happened to get shaken up by some faggot called Zeon once?
This is also one of my biggest gripe.All history of past 35 years in-universe and IRL is now had this thing retro actively added because banrise wanted to make more UC money .
Banagher's character backstory would had been a lot better if he kept the tradition of UC gundam protagonists - to be a nobody what-so-ever who gets into the conflict and later gets invested into it,acting as a thematic foil to the likes of those who have to carry a family burden which defines their action and character (Mineva and Riddhe ).This has been always the interesting feature of Gundam
In that way,you could have created a perfect epilouge to UC and to the structure of UC storyline too in terms of theme
But no,everyone gets a powerful family lineage.
And bullshit powerup doing jesus yamato in the last episode while closing on a total Naive Seed-esque ending .
But then it is what sells in Nippon apparently.
Story was fine.
Unfortunately /m/ is too retarded to understand a narrative that isn't obfuscated by Tominoisms.
>>14030689
>The biggest problem with Unicorn's story is that the mcguffin of the plot has no real weight if you watched some of the late UC stuff.
Its not a problem.
Thats the entire point of the conclusion, that the box is crap and worthless and shouldnt be this secret power grab.
Minerva and banagher decided the world should know its existence, draw its judgements and then move the fuck on, which it did.
元はガチでエヴァンゲリオンやマジンガーの敵相手に戦えるスパロボ大戦プレイヤー機試験機、同次期に、マクロスのVF25に敗れた、製作スタッフが審査基準を全く理解してなかった、AEGはキャラクターデザインがガンダムの話を理解してなかった
>>14030442
story: as bad as every other gundam desu senpai
visuals: fantastic animation, designs (although the newtype crystal shit was questionable imo)
music: i don't remember
>>14031096
is this the moe police with the specifications I always dreamed of?
>>14030442
I like it.
Best Gundam
>>14030614
>people still misinterpreting that entire interview
Stay classy, /m/.
>>14031107
>>14030750
>dad you didn't even know all that well because divorce entrusts gendum to you
vs
>you stole the gendum that, surprise, your dad was working on
That said, Unicorn's argument about not being held back by the past and all that shit would in fact favor having huge chunks of the primary lead cast be beneficiaries of nepotism, to illustrate the different ways people handle being tied to family baggage. Banana has the advantage of not even really knowing his dad all that well and just wanting to satisfy his newtype autism to bone Audrey and all that shit, making him the neutral party to Mineva's "I will publicly admit my family was full of shit and you should not condone their actions," Riddhe's "I'm going to bear the curse of the Marcenas name," Frontal's "I will embody the memes of Char Aznable, the ideals of Zeon, and really just fuck Earthnoids with a rake, Spacenoids 4 lyfe."
Think about it, when you're a beneficiary of nepotism and yet you walk away without being shackled to family baggage, you're setting an example for those who are bound to their baggage to follow; don't live in the past continuing the shameful mistakes of those who came before you, and look towards a future full of possibility.
Even if that future involves psychopaths and world conqueror types born from the wretchedness of human nature, but that's an entirely different problem from what Unicorn deals with.
>>14031213
>>dad you didn't even know all that well because divorce entrusts gendum to you
>vs
>>you stole the gendum that, surprise, your dad was working on
Jewdough confirmed for best gundam protag.
No wonder ZZ is not an anime,it's real
>>14030559
>watches roboto ANIME for concise writing
>>14030598
>>14030636
>>14030682
Seeing as no one else has, I'll come out and say I agree with you anon, and you eloquently expressed just how I felt about it.
I'll also say that the fact that what was in the box was so underwhelming was, if anything, the point. The Federation thought it was something that could bring a scandal that would topple them, so they just kept paying the Vists until all the people who cut the original deal were dead or retired and their replacements kept paying out, because the Federation was pretty corrupt and when a large sum of money is moving out to a 'Foundation' you sign it off and don't ask questions. Meanwhile, Frontal thought it was something he'd be able to use to force the Federation to the bargaining table on his terms and completely cripple their economy as a final revenge for Zeon. They couldn't see beyond their pettiness, and so assumed it would be something that would bring them great power.
That's why the Unicorn was made so only a Newtype could find the box - only a Newtype who had understood the plights of others, both earthnoid and spacenoid, would be able to see the contents for what they were, the simple intent of the people who founded the UC that the earthnoids and spacenoids should work together. The whole UC had been defined by the struggles of Earth and the colonies against each other, set in motion by petty, greedy people overruling (and usually killing) idealists - even those with such simple, humble ideals as humanity working together - from the very beginning.
Thus when the box is opened, Mineva and Banagher send out the broadcast which isn't meant to completely change everything forever, just be a simple message of hope that despite all the bloodshed, people should still try to work together and that the founders of the UC didn't mean for everything to turn out as it had - that the UC was originally meant to be a new beginning for humanity, not just another age of pettiness and war.
>>14030748
>not loving it when they went BEYOND THE TIME
>that music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td6_-Srsos8
I got goosebumps
>>14030442
It's really dumb. Essentially glorified fan-fiction that should have never gotten animated, with power creep out the ass and characters retreaded.
I liked it.
>>14031256
I think that there was also an undercurrent of "people with good intentions can cause a lot of harm to others."
The amendment to the original charter was a harmless one made dangerous by the ideals of Zeon, given the right context it would come off as legitimizing the Principality and its war crimes when all it was meant to be was a sort of spontaneous concession to a would-be marginalized group
The Side co-prosperity sphere Full Frontal envisioned was meant to improve the well being of the colonies, even though it would throw those still on Earth under the bus.
The latter is debatable as to which was the true goal (ruin the Earthnoids, or advance the Spacenoids), but I found it to parallel the charter issue in that something meant to aid a disenfranchised group is given a more sinister meaning under a different context.
>>14030442
It's the Best of the Universal Century OVAs.
>>14030624
>'fuck everything else in UC this thing is pure magic
Tomino already did this in 0079. Newtypism is ingrained in the DNA of UC Gundam and nothing Unicorn did was unexpected or different from other series that Tomino did.
>>14030662
> Did you miss the whole 'lol nothing matters except THE BOX' plotline? Where literally everything in UC was just a big conspiracy controlled by the Vists and the Marcenas and they just happened to get shaken up by some faggot called Zeon once?
Yes actually. Or are you saying that any of them caused or could have prevented ANY conflict in UC? Neither the Zabis, Haman, Glemy or Char knew about the box to have it as a cause. Neither the Vists, the Marcenas' or any other family caused any conflicts either. Nor would the box have prevented those conflicts since the Zabis and Haman didn't care about newtype rights and barely spoke of them, nor did Glemy and Char was only concerned with the fact there were few to no natural newtypes, Contolism and having one last duel with Amuro. None of which the box would have prevented. Even if the box was public all that would still have happened (as would Zeon Deikun, since his main concern with Contolism - not newtypes). So what did the box do exactly?
> And where Zeon wasn't even defeated when the literal son of Zeon Deikun is utterly defeated by his own ideals and betrayed by his own elite soldiers?
Char was neither defeated by his own ideals (it was Amuros that defeated him, not his own) nor did most of his soldiers betray him. The film ends with Nanai and most of the crew of the Rewloola mourning his passing and Axis being pushed back and the colonies are still full of people who believe so strongly in Char and his Zeon that the Feds are afraid to stop Char publicly.
>>14031334
In fact, the only one who finds out how full of shit Char is is Amuro. Because the film is and always has been about the end of their story, not Zeons. It being the end of Zeon seems to have been a Western invention. The only soldiers that help stop Char are a handful of Geara Doga soldiers and nothing more. And seemingly only because of the Feds rushing to stop Axis at the cost of their own lives and their love of Earth, not because of anything to do with Char.
Which is putting aside that only perhaps Gyunei and Rezin were elite and most of them certainly weren't.
>>14030442
I hate people around me who liked it because cool mechs and pretty visuals.
A mecha anime is pointless without good story and character. Because bad story and character belongs in Moeshits and Chuuni Light Novel adaptation shit.
>Please tell me what to think, /m/! I'm lost without you to guide me and form my opinions for me!
>>14031213
>dad you didn't even know all that well because divorce entrusts gendum to you
>vs
>you stole the gendum that, surprise, your dad was working on
Which goes both way for Banagher.
There is a reason that grunt action feels better because Banagher basically drives a macguffin .
Getting entrusted of everything that is wrong with UC that dates back to very beginning of UC itself is a huge baggage.Plus he gets to pull huge bullshit with newtype powers to resolve the battle.
But then what can you expect from a story centered around Donut steel OC ,where he owns the central drama because now we have this Illuminati family added way back in time.
Regarding the box,anyone with brain knew it bound to be some document ,not some key to Death star pointed at solar system.And the way they zoom out from the charter floating in space in the beginning of ep1 ,it became a no brainer at that point.
I do appreiate the idea Unicorn was trying to show,but it relies too much on the works of past gundams while at the same time includes new stuff just to give OC donut steel protag something to give him a base compared to his foil and love for drama convinience at the ost of work done all these years.
Full Frontal in the anime is entirely different can of worm,made worse by the fact that they never even hint his actual Origin and with all the stuff happened in ep 7,let leave it there.
It's just like IBO where on papaer there are great ideas and themes but what we got on screen was a shameless parade of money grab tactics.
>>14031331
Newtypism aiding combat and maybe ending with a special final attack vs totally relying on it in the second half and leading to NO FRONTAL, I AM THE UNDERSTANDING.
Is it to be expected after 30 years of escalating in the franchise? Yeah, but I don't have to like it.
>>14031331
>Unicorn did was unexpected or different from other series that Tomino did.
I don't remember newtype ghosts of girlfriends stopping a colony laser by growing crystals at the same time disabling entire army of mobile suits like nothing.
Did I mentioned TIMETRAVEL
>>14030442
Story - mediocre
Mech porn - good
Music - great
Kits - Sinanju
>>14031376
You did, the show didn't. In a way, the show is worse, since it the universes' memories, not time travel.
>>14030442
>What is the general consensus of gundam unicorn?
Normies eat it with disregard to any of the history it holds,which makes you wonder whether majority of them have any attention span or even care whether they are getting or not.
Among the fandom,it is a great source of skub as evident from this thread .
Personally what I think?
Good when you actually know your UC,and 2nd half of last episode is complete bullshit but then it is Gundam in genreal.
>>14031376
>time travel
Oh boy it's this retard again.
>>14030442
>What is the general consensus of gundam unicorn?
Weird-ass plotline, ultimately stupid but fitting ending, and great excuses to recolor old HGUC and re-release them.
I hope the anime generates Origin-tier re-mold/re-models (it probably won't).
>>14030442
>What is the general consensus of gundam unicorn?
Hated by /m/
Loved by Nips, especially older ones
I enjoyed it until around the half way mark when I realised no one on the writing staff knew what they were doing.
Once the realization hit, it made everything before retroactively worse.
The action and the mecha gave me a giant boner, and I tried to ignore the glaring flaws in the writing. Overall, I enjoyed it, but it definitely could have been executed in a better fashion.
Actual show was bad.
But I can't even see the mobile suits or hear the word unicorn anymore with "DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN DUH DA DUN DA-DUN DUUUUUUUUN" playing in my head
>>14030765
It's a problem when that many people died in pointless armed conflict for something that ultimately didn't matter.
Laplace was a literary mcguffin in the truest sense of the word. It's just lazy writing.
>>14031584
>every conflict has to have a purpose
How idealist of you.
>>14031576
>DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN DUH DA DUN DA-DUN DUUUUUUUUN"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=643mBbuOIKI
The OVA was pretty solid from the first three episodes, I didn't know what the fuck possessed Banrise to change it into an unrecognisably bad pile of shit while leaving everything important out.
But I have one stupid ass question though, why wasn't Marida court martialed for being a prostitute? I'm pretty damn sure someone with a background as scratched up as hers cannot even hope to be a soldier again let alone climb ranks to become a lieutenant?
>>14034584
>But I have one stupid ass question though, why wasn't Marida court martialed for being a prostitute? I'm pretty damn sure someone with a background as scratched up as hers cannot even hope to be a soldier again let alone climb ranks to become a lieutenant?
She was PoW turned sex slave, it wasn't her choice. Her vagina (and womb) was sacrificed for Zeon so if anything she deserves a medal of valour for surviving all those penises.
>>14034584
Considering this is Zeon's, what? Third, fourth 'remnants' uprising? They'll take anyone they can get. Renegades and terrorists don't have the luxury of filtering out all the (known) problem cases while still having a decent pool of manpower to draw from.
And as >>14034676 pointed out, she wasn't whoring herself out for her own gain, she was a slave and a victim. That being said, a legitimate military still might have had issues once they got to the psychiatric screening process. Or not; it's not like she wasn't used to being ordered around..
>>14030442
Great visuals, great story up to episode 3. Everything after that has a big drop in quality.
You see, Gundam Unicorn is the kind of story that only makes sense if you don't think about it very hard. All the philosophizing, the talking heads, the men talking slowly and portentously...They're actually talking completely out of their asses.
Constantly.
Unicorn Mode looked cooler.
>>14030442
episodes 1-3: good
episode 4 : the worst
episodes 5 and 6: ok
episode 7 : a mess
>>14030608
This is the dumbest shit I ever heard.
The love triangles / mcs aren't nearly as annoying.
>>14031748
Some of us don't enjoy pointless disagreements as much as certain others obviously do.
>>14030559
I also had the best non-mech fight in the series
>>14034676
>>14034694
But she'd be a problematic soldier to have around. Her health problems are one thing, but honour in the military is a pretty big thing. She's probably not very respected around her peers. If anything, her rank is probably due to her captain pulling strings. Her piloting skills are mediocre at best.
And going back to health problems, she's probably the worst soldier to have around because of how "worn-out" she is. Why would anyone bother keep a soldier who's not even in optimum condition?
>>14035115
They didn't exactly have a lot of mint-condition Newtypes hanging around, who else would pilot the Kshatriya?
>>14035115
You didn't watch ZZ, did you?
![[Frostii]_K-On!!_B-Side_Theater_-_Uraon!!_-_8_[5B1C279E].mkv_snapshot_03.26_[2016.03.08_23.31.34].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kJTVOqT.jpg "[Frostii]_K-On!!_B-Side_Theater_-_Uraon!!_-_8_[5B1C279E].mkv_snapshot_03.26_[2016.03.08_23.31.34].jpg")
The box shit is revolting and cheapens the UC setting
It doesn't help that it basically seems to be running down a 'Tomino UC Gundam' checklist just because
Also it looks like a TV anime
>>14030624
Ate you somehow surprised a full psycho frame gundam and a new type enhanced specifically for it would break reality?
>>14030442
Story: Poor
Characters: Violently inconsistent
Visuals: Some of the best animation in any Gundam
Audio: Very good, above average for the franchise
Mechs: Stunning
Overtall: One of the prettiest lightshows in gundam that can't quite distract from the fact that it's basically a nostalgia trip for people who've sat through all of U.C. That doesn't make it bad, I love it, but it means a lot of people were disappointed because the 'big picture' implications of the story were a few skirmishes, mostly in space and some political figures were arrested. That's kind of it, outside of some international law that's never enforced in later U.C.
I want to go back in time and rewrite it
>>14035206
>The box shit is revolting and cheapens the UC setting
This.
>>14035115
>Her piloting skills are mediocre at best.
>wrecked Angelo's shit with a half-assembled unit
ok
>>14037707
>gets wrecked over and over again by Banana
>still gets wrecked despite piloting the Banshee
>gets offed by Riddhe
>obligatory almost gets wrecked by a nameless Jegan pilot
Looks like I win, m8
>>14038214
>a Newtype gets destroyed by Newtype-Destroyer
What a revelation m8
>>14038214
see >>14038224
also
>forgetting it's a Stark Jegan
>'almost wrecked'
>the bell pepper is barely even damaged
gr8 b8 m8
>>14038224
>>14038445
She lost more battles than she won, don't bullshit me m8
And she was careless with the Jegan fight. A machine as good as the bellpepper would've offed the Jegan without much hassle
>>14030442
fukui is a hack
>>14038472
She wasn't even careless, she was just fighting on his terms out of respect or something. He never touched her and even if the beam saber strike had landed it wouldn't have done anything since the chest still has an i-field. She didn't even use the mega particle cannons or machine cannons she could have for no reason. Guy never had a chance in reality and the only reason he appeared to have was to keep some of the mystery of what the suit could do.
it's trash that you might as well skip and watch the fight scenes on youtube
>>14038483
>she was just fighting on his terms out of respect or something
u wot m8
Well that still doesn't excuse the fact that she was a shitty pilot. For goodness sake, she couldn't even look after herself properly when she was fighting in the colony. If she wasn't as careless as you made her out to be she wouldn't have hit the reactor and almost fucked up.
Even when she was piloting the Banshee, in destroy mode no less, she still couldn't put up a fight against the Unicorn that wasn't in destroy mode.
I'd say even Loni, Riddhe and Angelo are better pilots than her.
I'm watching unicorn for the first time, Did sunrise try to make it as an introduction to gundam or something, so far in the first thirty minutes it's been "Hey, this is a Haru, This is a Zaku, This is a newtype, these are funnels, This is a CCA reference, Neo, Neo, Neo Zeon!". It seems like half of the conversations have been infodumps incase someone didn't already know basic terminology, Hell I'm expecting a colony drop and a random woman to be introduced as a love interest just to be killed off before the end of the first episode.
>>14046524
It was the first gundam released on blu ray simultaneously in all regions including english and french audio.
Does anyone still have that pasta that calculated how many dicks Mari had in her?
>>14047109
Roughly half as many as you mom, IIRC.
>>14030442
muh understanding
>>14047109
You're welcome.
>>14030442
Delicious mech porn and OST
Mediocre to bad everything else
>>14046524
It does its best to give you enough of the picture on its own so that you don't have to go through all of UC to get the gist of where it's coming from and going towards.
>>14035722
How so? The box adds so much more details to the original context. If it wasn't for Laplace's Box the Vist Foundation would never have had the power and wealth afforded to it by backdoor deals with the Federation. As such, without the Vist Foundation, there would have been no Anaheim. So say good bye to almost every Gundam. Not to mention the double dealing Anaheim did with both the Federation and Zeon makes more sense now if you consider them having the box as a hidden ace, and also explains why they weren't shutdown by the Federation in the first place.
The Box is a great explanation for why the federation was so anti-newtype, anti-spacenoid independence. It makes things like EXAM or HADES make much more sense despite the obvious negatives involved in using such system, as well as the further Development of the NT-D system.
It sounds to me like the vast majority of people that are all "BADSTORYITSUCKEDBRO" simple can't see the vast amount of threads that are actually connected throughout the entirety of the UC timeline now.
Did the story need to be MuhNEWTYPEMagicTimeTravelWinsTheDay? No, it didn't. But I think it needs to be considered that the Unicorn was mostly made up of Psycoframe material and even Anaheim, the guys who developed the shit, didn't even have any idea about its full potential.
The actual general consensus of people who watched it and not just /m/ and gunota?
It was extremely well-received.
>>14047159
>not the original
Fast forward and watch the mobile suit battles, as they're the best part of it.
>>14048477
>it was a box bro this family of diplomats was manipulating the federation the entire time
It's a bad retcon
There is nothing wrong with just Anaheim being kikes and there being no secret family of richers to control the war economy. Frankly for there to be so many threads connecting all the events in UC is too farfetched
it'll hurt less to rewatch than it hurt to watch IBO
>>14042473
nigga not him but did we even watch the same Unicorn
>>14048561
Well that's because the other calculation is more accurate
>>14048477
It is as bad as milking OYW by adding more gundams with outrageous technologies just to sell on the appeal of Zeon during OYW.
Just for the sake of this story to sell ,they create this things out of no where so it could be added to the pre existing canon just to insert OC donut steel. Only character who was worth watching was Minneva since there was weight in her past, not this psychoframe NTD stuff for more OP gundam which trolls you into a roundabout journey when the box was in that colony from ep 1 in 1st place.But then how could they would had cashed into Nostalgia without visiting all the old places where major stuff happened in past?
I know at the end of the day it is really a toy commercial but for me it was a cheap cash shonen battle story.Late UC had better story than this SORE DEMO Feel good scholk
>>14030442
>>14030442
There is no general consensus, unless you count /m/'s constant hate of everything ever.
I can tell you what I personally thought of it though: I liked it. It wasn't a great masterpiece, but it was good fun and that's all I'm asking for when watching chinese cartoons.
>>14030442
the story is a rehas of a teenage boy finding a gundam and shit so it's stands to reason the story aspect is shit.
i'll say the best thing about unicorn is the sexy sinanju is what saved the show for me. I bought a wall scroll and the master grade of the sinanju.
>>14048477
Bullshit. The box is a ridiculous and contrived retcon whose only purpose is to lay the blame of all the terrible things that happened in UC at the feet of the Evil Federation while saying that Zeon was in the right and entirely justified all along. The only thing it stops short of doing is saying Zeon did nothing wrong.
>>14048798
This. Anaheim was irrelevant prior to 0083 and even in Zeta they were terrified of the Titans cracking down on them that they handed over a bunch of Marasais to stay in the Titans good graces. The whole 'Lel, Anaheim has had the Feddies by the balls for nearly a century' is just so much bullshit like all the other retcons in Unicorn.
>>14052838
>The box is a ridiculous and contrived retcon whose only purpose is to lay the blame of all the terrible things that happened in UC at the feet of the Evil Federation while saying that Zeon was in the right and entirely justified all along
>I didn't actually watch Unicorn
>>14052844
I did. Did you? The whole point of the Laplace Box is the Evil Federation removing the Newtype affirmative action clause destroyed the possibility of a 'Grorious Newtype Future' and ensured that UC ended up as the shithole it became. That's the reason for Cardeas and Syam constantly droning on about 'possibility'.
>>14053122
The Zeon uprising had nothing to do with the box, and the box only gained power out of fear that it would legitimize Zeon even though spacenoid independence was just an excuse to wage a war of absolute conquest.
The final episode literally deals with this, the box is straight up bullshit that doesn't justify anyone's actions, they straight up have the last of the Zabi family give an entire speech calling out everyone's bullshit over thinking the charter justifies any of the crimes committed by anyone in the UC.
