Can someone explain to me why all the hate for IBO?
Cause i think it's a OK gundam show.
>>14027493
Because it sucks, there's really no other reason.
>>14027504
can you atleast tell me WHY it sucks?
>>14027493
its boring as fuck and it says the same things every episode like it thinks that people watching this show are retarded
>>14027519
Wasted setting and world building
Awful pacing
Awful characters
Shit writing
Horrible animation.
Rampant QUALITY, bad pacing, not enough character development for the main cast. Also Mika's a supporting character in his own show.
Why is it that most of the prominent MS are only using melee weapons? What happened to beam rifles or ranged weaponry?
>>14027493
It does literally nothing right.
>>14027547
Beam tech don't exist in this universe (yet). As for why they don't use ranged weaponry more often? PLOT.
>>14027552
The setting's interesting, though not explored to its full potential.
>>14027493
/m/ hates everythingunless it's over 20 years old.
>>14027493
You're not allowed to like any Gundam show made after 2000.
>>14027547
>>14027559
What he said about beams, and also everything has 'nanolaminate armor' which seems to make ranged weapons, especially at long distances, ineffective. Every MS kill in the last few episodes has been one person battering the other's to pieces, or even just killing the pilot through rattling them around too hard, rather than piercing a hole in the armor.
>>14027547
They got rid of beams because people die quickly.
Then just made only a handful of people actually use weapons that make even a modicum of sense so everyone dies quickly anyway.
>>14027493
Because it's not directed by Tomino:^)
>>14027493
Its not Gundam enough for Gundam fans, but too much like Gundam for people who don't like Gundam.
It presented itself as a story about these orphans facing the heavy gritty realities of the world or some shit like that and what we got was a series-long escort quest about how sugoi one of the girls is and probably the most generic forms of "bonding" between comrades you can think of
IBO is hands down the best Gundam to come out since Tomino did Turn-A Gundam. There have been a few that were awesome, but pissed away that potential with a shitty second season (OO) or horrible pacing and an unfulfilling ending (G-Reco). IBO has brought back the true Gundam spirit and themes with having children that are disconnected from the adult world and have formed a new way to communicate and bond. Their reckless actions actually have consequences, people die, and the Alaya-Vignana system is a creepy, great new fill in for the unfair advantage newtypes had in the originals. The characters are all very strong and defined, even including the female characters! The Char clone is great in this one, and only second the the magnificent Harry Ord. Add all the icing that is the endless references, including how the two Gjallarhorn dudes are nearly identical to Char and Garma and that fucking amazing ending theme, the first one, which was the most og gundam thing I had heard or seen since the oruginals, and you have yourself an incredible new Gundam. One of the best IMO.
>>14027695
>IBO is hands down the best Gundam to come out since Tomino did Turn-A Gundam
Nice joke MAL
>>14027695
Hi ANN.
>>14027695
ctrl+c ctrl+v
>>14027563
>The setting's interesting, though not explored to its full potential
Ah, SAO.
>>14027493
too much bad politics, not enough robots fighting
when the robots do fight, it doesn't look all that good
>>14027753
When the robots do fight, it makes you wish they don't.
FTFY
>>14027493
>its IBO thread on why it sucks
>But bellri is the OP picture
that threw me for a loop.
IBO sucks because it took 10 episodes to say something that should have only taken 3.
>>14028334
IBO > X
>>14028334
seriously, about to go onto my greco rant but the nigga is talking about IBO. fucking OP
I think IBO just took to long to get to point a to point b.I guess after he break neck speed of reco they slowed it down but way to much.
>>14028334
I like IBO and Greco and I'm fucking fed up of this forced fan base war, I'm pretty sure its by people that have never seen either too. I mean theyre not perfect by any means at all, but i'll take robutts where i can get them.
The first three episodes were potentially interesting
Then they went to space and everything good about the fights, characters, and setting vanished, never to be seen again.
>>14028355
X >>> shit > IBO
>>14027493
It has its problems, but people who drone that Gundam should be held to a higher standard are pretty lenient or forgettable concerning older entries into the franchise.
There really isn't a single full fledged series of Gundam that I'd call great.
Hell, take any Gundam series' full run of episodes and score them. And the average of all those episodes would probably be a passing score, but nothing stellar.
I have a lot of affection for 0079 and Zeta, but even those are flawed as fuck.
Some people just can't handle that the world isn't square.
Butthurt grecofags and just general intra-airing edginess.
>>14028712i like both :^)
>>14028712
>>14028737both are equally shit
>>14028712
>>14028737
>>14028749all gundam is shit
That's a good thing tho...
>>14027493
Its an attitude thats restricted to /m and nowhere else (check out the reception in /a, or any anime/gundam forum)
There was a select few regulars here shitting on IBO BEFORE it was even aired.
Newfags smell a Meme, jump on the bandwagon.
>>14028423
How is 0079 not great? Fantastic world, memorable, iconic characters, excellent battle cerography, engaging plot, etc.
>>14027632
Wait hold on are you telling me there's hentai in IBO?
>>14027695
>>14027701
>>14027704
If you told me his was from either of these sites I'd believe you without question.
>>14028807
How many of there are you? 2,3? Or is it just one guy? You've only started posting this in the past few days and you act like the whole board is on your side. Are you trying to fool someone? Or is it an elaborate troll? I'm seriously curious.
>>14027493
>>14028376
>forced fanbase war
Since when? Fucking newfag get out or lurk more. There's nobody forcing a stupid fanbase war on /m/. Only those stupid youtubers and IBO apologists say this shit to deny any criticism towards the show. People just hate cuz it's shit. What's so hard to understand that IBO sucks?
>>14029798
>cuz
Didn't you just get told not to do this?
>>14029819
Nope, no idea what you talking about.
>>14029851
In any case, speak proper English.
>>14029856
baka desu senpai
It's an okay show.
The biggest problem is bad pacing and wasted potential. There beginning has a nice buildup of tension, but the show has lost all momentum by the pirates filler arc. Orga and Mika have a great dynamic but the show constantly wastes time with one-note characters like Fumitan, Merribit, and Kudelia.
I actually like the fights, but the whole thing would be better as a 13 episode series or a 6 episode OVA.
Although, "it's an okay show with interesting ideas but bad pacing, QUALITY animation, too much filler, and poorly written female characters" describes most Gundam shows.
>>14029868
Also the fanbase war comment comes from posts like "G-rectards keep saying..." when the shows or fans have nothing to do with each other.
The only character I liked in IBO was Fumitan and they killed her off. What a low blow.
I find it hard to relate to any characters at all. They have their goals and shit but it's just kinda whatever.
can we just stop all the hating on the above series and just say AGE is the worst?
there, done
If you think this is bad, you should have been here when 00 was airing.
>>14030584
This is why people should pay no mind to the IBO shitposting
To be honest I think it's not that bad either, but maybe my bar's been set that low.
My main gripe is that it starts with a lot of promise, but then just dragged on for way too long. The past few episodes have been pretty good imo but a lot of whats happening now should have happened a little earlier. While I understand the story importance of Kudelia's character, she overall did not warrant nearly as much time as this series has spent on her especially considering all the other things they could have elaborated on much more like
-Throwing us a few more bones about Mikazuki's background, his nature...anything really rather than saving it all for the end (I assume)
-Fumitan's background, rather than putting it all right before her death. In fact, more elaboration on the discontent of her class to better illustrate why exactly everyone in this universe hates Ghallahorn and the status quo.
-Better utilized the growing and implied wedge between Orga and Biscuit. While like everyone I knew Biscuit was going to die...most likely a martyr, I do feel like they wasted a lot of what that character could have done before hand.
-More elaboration on Ghallahorn's corruption. We've gotten some of it with how they treated the dock workers at Biscuit's colony, the very fact they put Carta in charge of anything etc but I never really felt like it was enough to really show why these guys are the antagonists other than just being grossly negligent and incompetent.
Just to name a few things.
I know they only had so much, but I do think it could have been paced better. It's a great beginning, and whats looking to be a pretty good end, sandwiching this giant black hole of meandering and Kudelia.
The battles themselves have been pretty decent as far as TV goes though. All and all it's been very flawed but...I've seen worse. I think its...alright.
>>14030583
We can't, at the moment, due to the fact that the title currently is in a two way tie between Gundam 00 and IBO.
It's not that I hate it. It's that I can barely find anything good with it.
>Unlikable characters
>Poor exposition
>Poor pacing
>Badly animated
>Few standout designs
>Alright music
>Predictable plot
Those factors coupled with how everybody overrates it makes me sour.
Aside from nitpicks like some QUALITY animation, it's just mostly that it's pacing is subpar. Too much Princess, not enough of anything else. Aside from that though, its average. It's not perfect but I'd watch it over AGE any day.
Also this place is hipster central, don't let anyone tell you otherwise they're just covering for themselves. Don't get me wrong this show could have been better, but this board melts down about nearly every Gundam TV series that comes out to absurd degrees more than anyone else.
>>14030583
>AGE
>worst
>>14029723
How are they trying to fool anyone when their(?) only argument is that its unpopular on /m/ thus its just people jumping on the bandwagon when the reasons it has been disliked have been listed is stupid.
Also citing the opinions of unnamed sites that if posts were taken from and posted on /m/ would be considered shitposting is retarded.
>>14028807
Pretty much this. When /m/ is the only place that hates it, you know the problem is /m/, not the show.
>>14030803
Maybe because most of /m/ have watch other better mecha genre than most people out there?
I once met some dude in a gunpla store who I swear to me mum kept saying
"IBO is the best gundam and it has action that was more awesome than the original gundam."
Oh and "I hate The-O because its too fat"
This type of people are the general audience for IBO
>>14028423
>There really isn't a single full fledged series of Gundam that I'd call great.
0080?
>>14028334
This. My post quoting every single negative comment with the reply
>Found the retards
was ready and only then I noticed it wasn't a thread about Greco.
>>14027493
>Written by Mari Okada
>Forced Drama
>Poor facing
>Retard fanbase
>QUALITY
>>14030842
hey at least you did found the retard
>>14030803
No, it means that /m/ is the only place with standards.
>>14030869
/m/ likes G-Reco tough
>>14030779
Age Arc 3, smartass. everything after Kio visits mars makes me want to puke my everything and die.
>>14030896
Yes, and?tbf Greco with it shortcomings was a superior series than IBO. maybe some population can't understand it but that doesn't make it shit. Even if it's shit in your eyes it is still a better shit than IBO
>>14030896
G-Reco is far from perfect but it is fine enough.
>>14030915
AGE-2 is by far the most puke inducing arc though.
>>14030961
>G-Reco is far from perfect
Found the retard.
>>14030896
Even if you don't like G-Reco's story it's hands down better than IBO in terms of animation and characters.
>>14027493
>Can someone explain to me why all the hate for IBO?
It's worse than seed destiny.
>>14030972
Look at this man, look at how petty he is.
See how much vitriol he pours into his false flagging about a show of animated robots killing each other.I guess he didn't pay attention
>>14027493
>Can someone explain to me why all the hate for IBO?
It's a Gundam series currently airing.
>>14027493
new gundam show always gets hated. later fags gonna say it wasn't really bad
>>14027539
further elaborate
>>14028389
evangelion >>>>>>>>shit>X
>>14028355
X at least had characters with some personality between the dull fights even if they were extremely common archetypes. IBO just has walking exposition dumps.
>>14033127
Wait there is one guy in IBO who had a fun personality but he's hardly in it.
>>14027559
>why they don't use ranged weaponry more often?
Nano-laminate armor. You have to be really close in for projectiles to be effective, and at that range meelee weapons are more versatile.
Yes, I know that the distance a projectile is fired from means fuck-all about its effectiveness irl. F=MA, but in IBO they've stated that long-range attacks are ineffective. It's their version of the "minovsky particles have returned combat to line-of-sight" schtick. Don't think about it too much, just admire how awesome and original that DINOSAW is. Maybe beam technology was forbidden by the Silver Chalice Treaty, maybe everyone who knew how to build one died 300 years ago, maybe someone just realized large chunks of lead were a lot cheaper, maybe the Jupiter Energy Fleet was destroyed in the Calamity War and they can't feasably get large enough amounts of H3 to be wasting reactor plasma on beamspam. Doesn't matter, what's really important isDINO-SAW
>>14031785
Some of us are already saying it's good. It's just that the people who spew vitriol are more energetic. Later on they'll be preoccupied with spewing vitriol about whatever other new show comes next so you'll see less of it in IBO threads.
>>14027695
this a new pasta right?
>>14031785
fuck you, 00 wasn't hated at all, hell, the anticipation for each episode filled entire theads
since AGE aired and how letdown it was, Try, Reco and now IBO are the exact opposite and that's because none of them are good shows
if you are desperate to try to hide that fact , enjoy your fucking shittaste, but don't try ti force other people to like it
>>14028355
GET THE FUCK OUT
>>14027493
fanboys fighting other fanboys.
also, it's /m/'s whipping boy.
>>14029728
cherry pick much?
>>14027493
Because the pacing is absolute shit. The show takes forever to do anything as if there's a lot going on but in reality other shows including other Gundam shows have done the same exact thing in like half the time. Ever since they went into space the show felt like the writers had no idea what to do next and have just been stalling for as long as possible until they come up with any good ideas or when they hit episode 25.
>>14027539
>horrible animation
Now now, I hate Grekt as much any other guy, but this is simply n0t true
>>14033414
oh wait,>>14027539
you were talking about Greco, my bad
>>14027493
To put it simply, the pacing was a big issue. It was a "blink, or you'll miss it" type series. Which while not bad, it's bad in Gundam, since they're talking about a lot of shit.
>>14033300
>fuck you, 00 wasn't hated at all, hell, the anticipation for each episode filled entire theads
bulllshit. every week s1 was airing was full of people complaining how shit the pace was and fucking boring it was.
Then s2 happened and suddenly reversed opinion because of how broken 00 raiser was. Soooo much fucking backpedaling.
>>14034190
>IBO
>"blink or you'll miss it"
>when Jewdelia constantly insist on holding your hand and explain everything as if you're a toddler.
>everyone else are walking exposition dumps.
Are you seriously talking about IBO here anon?
>>14033300
>if you are desperate to try to hide that fact
00fag please, what is this revisionist history?
