ITT: Moments that made /m/ rage.
Glue.
>>14004415
I think we where madder about Ral shitting on the twins
>>14004415
>OH MY GOD THIS FUCKING UGLY ASTRAY WITH ITS FAGGY WEABOO KEKTANA DEFEATED MUH 2FAST4U HIGHDUCK FROM GENDUMB WING MUH NOSTALGIA
no really, what's there to rage about?
>>14004415
Someone post the AGE mobile phone controller announcement picture.
>>14004448
>HIGHDUCK
>>14004429
>>14004415
I'd definitely say that Ral being mad at the twins was a bigger upset. I've seen people rationalize it, but not really defend it.
On the flipside, I've seen plenty people defend the shitshow that was Nils' debut.
>>14004448
... you just said it, MUH TALLGOOSE (and in effect MUH NOSTALGIA) IS KILL
>>14004456
just generally anyone being mad at the twins pissed me off. I thought they were fantastic.
>>14004448
>world champion beaten by lmao particleshit *unsheathes bushido*
>Tallgeese not being based while Astray is not ugly
>>14004469
The twins thing would have been better if they had more character development showing them to be assholes before their big match.
Instead it was just "These guys use sneaky stealth tactics so that means they're BAD."
>>14004475
American Champion
World Champion got beaten by clear funnel gimmick.
>>14004455
If I recall Ral was giving out about their "muh war" attitude and everyone acted like he was giving out about their army men tactic.Which he was right, their attitude to the whole thing was idiotic. Winning at any cost is fine, being so far up your arse that you won't acknowledge or converse with anyone else and making up a war thing to justify it all isn't.
>>14004469
"lololol fags can't even in2 meta go home kids adults are having a war here"
I can really understand why people hated it. That being said, it still made them fun characters and made for a great battle. Also it's totally OK when Try has regeneration bots, I guess.
>>14004448
It was a shitty fight
>SUPERIOR JAPANESE SLIDING ACROSS THE SCREEN TECHNIQUE AND PLASTIC FOLDED ONE THOUSAND TIMES OVER SLICING BEAMS IN HALF AND ALSO PLAVSKY HACKS BTW NOTHING PERSONNEL KID
It spelled the end of Build Fighter's fun with the Plavsky bullshit.
I'm not even a fan of the LongDuckling.
>>14004415
No one really raged at this from what I remember. Longduck is a meme suit.
>>14004488
Yeah they did have a shitty attitude. I think they would have been more enjoyable if they were just hardcore roleplayers or something.
Friendly outside of battle, but pretending they're Federation MS vets in game.
>>14004488
No, he directly said it in response to them using army men to plant bombs on the enemy, not because of their attitude.
>>14004415
I was already pissed at a green Tallgeese but after that I just wanted Niggaruto to get BTFO asap.
>>14004451
Did that ever end up being any use at all? I can't recall the AGE system actually doing much despite it being such a big deal.
>>14004415
I was pretty upset, I mean its called Tallgeese Valkyrie but its got not valkyrie motif or even a female builder.
>>14004563
>American female builder
>Italian Dandy's #1 rival
Shiiiiit this would have been so much better
>>14004584
oh come off it.
Raging Bull
Italian Dandy
Number 1 rival
They were just closet lovers.
>>14004732
Nils turning up with his particle bullshit was what fucked up both GBF and TRY
>>14004469
Ral was just calling them out for being manchildren. Even though it's alright to be passionate about a game they were taking it to another level with the whole "muh warfare" and going full /k/
>>14004584
>almost no lewd of her
How?
>>14004772
She's a very minor character in a show that's actually not that popular in Japan.
>>14004732
>you can be my rival... anytime
Kind of wish we had Top Gundam now. 0083 has a little bit of it. I have no idea how to make it work with THE HORRORS OF WAR but I'm also leaning away from a OYW side story because that shit is dumb. The franchise will forever be trapped by the OYW if every new concept is explored in such safety. Unfortunately transforming jet models are monopolized by Zeta and Unicorn so the last option becomes... Making an original mecha series.
I wasn't annoyed by the Leogeese losing. How it ended was awesome and it's still one of my favorite fights in Build Fighters. I think a lot of Americans wanted to see more Leogeese, but I'm honestly happy America's Wing love got representation, no matter how short it was.
But I'm in agreement with >>14004429
I was genuinely pissed over a children's toy commercial at that episode and since then I've nursed a dislike for Meijin. Not his theme, just his suits and the character himself.
>>14004415
>>14004415
Crossbone jobbing.
Tryon-3 jobbing
Fucking shoehorned in particle draining shit.
>>14005108
Particle drain was so strange. Sekai had lots of particles and could blow up moons without much of a thought but (besides it being used in the Dragon triplets episode but that was straight retarded) suddenly it becomes the deciding factor of Crossbone, proving that Gunpla Academy (while also proving themselves as basically world champs because they just beat the champ who just beat a champ or something) were the bad guys, similar to Sekai's team. Meijin was too blind to see because he trusts in the gunpla higher than he trusts the rules of the game, which are often rigged.
>>14004845
> Gundam is stifling and as long as it stays with the same safe shit it always will be
> Man I'd love some Top Gundam but I have to work in the safe war angle somehow because that's Gundam
> That, or make an original IP
Not to encourage fan-fiction, but if you think Gundam needs a war then you're falling in to the same trap you just ragged on and playing safe. Gundam doesn't even always involve a war. The current show doesn't have one. Neither did G, X, Turn-A, or even technically a few others like Wing (it had an insurgency or rebellion really).
Why are you talking about ditching restraints and then restraining yourself?
>>14005146
The writers were lazy and made the top teams too strong for them to lose in a good way.
You'd have to have watched the original (i.e. not the remaster) to know the scar this left on the fandom and franchise.
>>14004415
In retrospect, it was very silly for everybody get mad about this.
>>14004451
Good times.
>>14005172
This one caused a chuckle in retrospect.
>>14005167
It was, but you had an American veteran of the world gunpla tourney build a Tallgeese, fight well with it, and end up getting beaten by a weaboo Gary Stu for no other reason than lulz particle hax.
There's an entire litany of things that trigger /m/ in that.
>>14005181
Yes but Nils becomes a fun guy by the end which is why I say in retrospect
>>14005183
True that.
>>14005159
>watching SEED episodes 1-34
"You know this show really isn't actually that bad, I don't see the fuss /m/ makes about it"
>But then I got to SEED episodes 34-50
>>14005193
That's from Destiny's last episode though. Which makes it even worse
Like that last episode is probably the shittiest fucking finale to any mecha I've ever seen.
>>14005201
Seeing Shinn and Luna abandoned on the moon as they slowly run out of air in the original is pretty funny though.
I'd post a screenshot of one of many of AGE's fuckups, but I scoured that series from my HDD long ago and refuse to pollute it with that crap ever again.
I didn't like the particle ending, but I thought the whole thing was funny at the time. I couldn't help laughing, so many anon's screaming about a nigger weaboo representing America. Then we found out his parents where (not) Conan and Ran, and people started liking him.
>>14004429
This couldn't be more true.
>>14004764
Hard to take that seriously when there's Gunpla police and Gunpla Mafia.
>>14005227
Yeah but that is obviously supposed to be a complete joke. Not even Sei takes that seriously and reacts like how the audience would if you said a Gunpla mafia exists
And it really only comes up once so that Ral can get a badass fight scene.
>mfw it's 2016 and people still don't understand this line
>>14005172
>>14005176
The magazine scans that started it all
>>14005233
I wish the archives weren't messed up so I could reread those old threads. Oh the butthurt, oh the crying
>>14005233
They really shouldn't have revealed Asemu and Kio that early before the show aired. It drained all tension of who they were going to end up with (or anyone at all).
>>14005254
They should have done the blacked out silhouette thing. It would have made the shipping more viable for shit posting.
>>14005232
I still don't get what's so hard about it. Bad dialogue or not, bad translation or not, it's pretty obvious what her meaning is. And that meaning would be just as obvious in pretty much any statement where someone barks "the world is not ____!".
>>14005172
>>14005233
I remember my first time coming to /m/, it was during the AGE shitstorm.
>>14005310
Lucky. I came during BF's airing so missed most of the craziness.
>>14005159
Oh those were the days.
The thing is unlike a lot of rage moments today, this was so unanimous that it bordered on righteous fury.
>>14005159
I've been here a long time, and I think this is still the apex of rage around here.
We've had a lot of meltdowns since but it still hasn't been to the level of SEED Destiny, and it was a rage that was far larger than /m/.
>>14005159
I actually laughed at that and went "there's no way they are actually ending it there". Then Final Plus and the Special Edition happened
>>14005227
Well, considering the fact that Takeshi actually arrests C I'm not sure if I should take the whole Gunpla Mafia and Gunpla Police business (more like referees dealing with shady people involving in Gunpla fights) seriously or not
>>14005340
I don't know, Try came really close and whenever Try is brought up in the conversation it is usually the same types of whining over and over with maybe 5% legitimate criticismand I honestly think people will still bitch about Try 10 years down the line
>>14005159
Is that actually the final ending shot for Destiny?
There's no way it ends on that. Surely there was something explaining where the characters went afterwards or the aftermath of the battle right?
>>14005463
Try still has some fans who like it in spite of its problems. Destiny (at least the original version) is universally reviled even by SEED fans.
>>14005545
FLAWLESS VICTORY was the ending for the TV series, and then Final Plus and the Special Edition compilation movies gave it a more "proper" ending
>>14005545
In the original version, yes. That's literally the ending shot of the series before it cuts to credits. All that aftermath stuff at Orb was added later in OVAs and special edition movies (probably in response to the fan outcry).
>>14005172
Ironically the least of AGE's problems was the phone.
>>14005577
that's because the idiot translator fucked up and it turned out to not be a phone
>>14005146
Even the dragon triplets made a kind of sense, they trapped them in a small area and drained the particles there
>>14005176
Oh shit, those expectations, I remember how people were confused and afraid of them
>>14005552
>>14005569
To put it into context, for many people who watched the show as it aired (and bought the DVDs) this WAS the definitive ending. There were no plans for Final Plus or Special Edition movies so for the longest time we were stuck with that abomination of an ending.
And to make matters worse, internationally Final Plus was NOT included on the DVD set of the series (it was licensed separately later on). So for anyone who bought the DVDs, you were screwed into believing that was it for the series.
>>14005463
People didn't like Try and made it know but there were still fans during the finale, when Destiny gave us that wonderful ending, time stopped on /m/, it was the kind of rage you see only once, everyone was angry
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>>14004764
>Ral was just calling them out for being manchildren.
yeah Ral's in any position to do that
>>14005552
Kira becoming a ZAFT admiral was probably the most ridiculous thing the movies added.
>>14004448
>what's there to rage about
How about the fact that Nils was maximum weeb trash gary stu who was a scientist and detective and half-japanese? Say what you will about whether or not you were mad at longswan getting harakiri'd, but the day Nils Nielsen debuted, was the day /m/ found a really shit character in GBF.
>>14004456
It was something of a hypocrisy considering nobody shamed Kirara for blatantly outright cheating early on. At least the Renatos were man enough to fight dirty within the game. Though that being said, it's easily ignored considering everyone knew Meijin was gonna win with superior Kampfer.
>>14004498
>>14004763
They already hinted at it beforehand with Mao's particle repulsion thing in the imaginary battle, and again when Mao revealed his X doesn't need the moon to fire his satellite cannon at an Apsalus III with an I-field installed somehow. Nils just brought it out in the open for retards like you who couldn't get the hint that imagination is the key to metagaming in GPB.
>>14005172
>>14005176
>>14005224
>>14005233
At least AGE had the decency to not clog up it's run with clipshows. Additionally FLAWLESS VICTORY was only reduced to Zeheart who was always a shit pilot in the end anyway. Lastly Kio never actually got UNDERSTANDING ending outside of his granddad and Ezelcant before he died. I know /m/ hates AGE at times, but it feels like the most vocal ones about it are Seed apologists trying to pass the buck for all of Seed's fuckery.
>>14005183
He's only "fun" if you like straight up weeaboos who cosplay and are OBSESSED with japanese culture.
>>14005659
>It was something of a hypocrisy considering nobody shamed Kirara for blatantly outright cheating early on.
Which makes me wonder how would the sponsor overlooked that andKirara probably had to suck a lot of dicks to get the GBWC gig
>At least the Renatos were man enough to fight dirty within the game. Though that being said, it's easily ignored considering everyone knew Meijin was gonna win with superior Kampfer.
I personally feel that /m/ reacted to Ral's opinion negatively because of the perceived cultural difference between Japanese and non-Japanese on duels with their whole MUH HONORABURU SHOUBU schtick and while /m/ was quite turned on by Renatos, the GM Sniper K9, and TACTICS
>>14004485
>Instead it was just "These guys use sneaky stealth tactics so that means they're BAD."
what really got me is that Sei and Reiji used similar tactics too. They would often use the gundams back pack as a hidden canon
>>14005659
>He's only "fun" if you like straight up weeaboos who cosplay and are OBSESSED with japanese culture.
People enjoy a uptight guy being bossed around and taken out of his element doing "embarrassing" things. I never thought it was funny. A little too hackneyed and his fights sucked.
>>14005635
Its is but it makes sense, they killed anyone who could have gone to the position of leader of the place and since his Mary Sue waife became the god king of coordinator kingdom it made sense for him to become her main general, if Assram wasn't such a gigantic faggot Cagalli would have probably done the same thing
>>14005635
>Luna
>in proper dress code
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>>14005659
>It was something of a hypocrisy considering nobody shamed Kirara for blatantly outright cheating early on.
Becuase we're not gonna hold a grudge if the character redeems themselves later on.
Yeah it was a bitch move but Kirara didn't even win that fight, learned her lesson and everyone move on and she become a better person afterwards.
That's not a hypocrisy.
>>14005635
I think the fact that Shinn decided to stay is more ridiculous.
>>14005717
It's funny you reference that particular scene since I remember when some of /m/ was butthurt that Fellini didn't selfdestruct. It was like suddenly everybody had short-term memory loss and completely forgot about Fellini talking to his partner back in his match with Sei/Reiji.
>>14005618
Final Plus came out though like what? 4 months after the show finished airing? It wasn't that long. It was obvious in hindsight them having that last minute recap because of whatever made them not have a ep to air that week cost them an episode's worth of story, which is why it ends so abruptly. That was clearly supposed to be in the original but they didn't have the time for it because of the screw up. Not that they'll publically admit that.
I dropped Try half way through or so did she ever show up in person?
cuz dayum. Fellini you lucky pasta eating sonuva bitch
>>14005735
I thought one of the points of build fighters was that "it's okay to let your precious creations be damaged or even destroyed, having fun building and playing is the point"
>>14005745
no, try had jackshit to do with characters from season 1 except for sei doing a voiceover letter reading and china appearing for a minute or two for a later episode
>>14005745
Nobody shows up in person in Try except Meijin (who's been reduced to a parody of himself) and China literally for like a minute to deliver parts from Sei and then immediately leaves.
Try is anti Destiny. People hate the new lead and begged for Sei and Reiji to come back and save the show but they stuck to their guns and shoved chicken how're you down our throats.
>>14005746
well yeah. If it got wrecked in a fight sure. But he was just being a sore loser at that point and was gonna blow it up out of spite.
The other take away is "it's only a game"
>>14005745
How old was Kirara in S1 anyway? Assuming she's the same age as Fellini she would be in her late 20's. How did she manage to trick a 13-year-old Sei into believing her as a girl around his age?
>>14005754
blowing it up would have been a nice throwback to wing where it got destroyed like two and a half times
and it definitely would have been better than seeing it get pointlessly torn apart by berserker mode aila
>>14005760
>How did she manage to trick a 13-year-old Sei into believing her as a girl around his age?
She's Japanese and Sei is stupid.
But I don't think she did say she was Sei's age, did she?
Also Felini is only 24
>>14005717
At the time, I remember people defending her for a variety of funny reasons: she picked up a Jim, She looked like adult Yurin, and She was cute without her costume.
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>>14005767
>blowing it up would have been a nice throwback to wing where it got destroyed like two and a half times
It also would have been a edgey dick move and disrespectful to his aibo
>and it definitely would have been better than seeing it get pointlessly torn apart by berserker mode aila
No one saw that coming. Not even her.
>>14005760
She wasn't trying to trick him into thinking she was a girl his age. She was trying to get him to have a crush on her as a cute girl who shares his interests.
And yes, she is supposed to be in her mid to late 20s. Hence the whole thing where as an idol she's on her last legs and needs to rely on a gimmick and popularity stunt by entering the tournament to get any attention and work.
>>14005769
>Felini is only 24
he looks old as fuck
thats p.cool though, he's basically the same age as the kids who saw GW
>>14005776
>No one saw that coming
If you're stupid, yeah.
>>14005786
the fight was over. No one had any reason to assume she'd go rip and tear on it because they don't know what they where doing to her.
the players on the stage don't get the benefit of meta knowledge
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>>14005774
she's also Aoi Yuuki
>>14005760
Kirara is around the same age as Misato. Boys like Sei are super vulnerable to women at that age.
>>14005786
>Calls people not seeing a sudden plot twist coming stupid
>Implying the Embody system was even foreshadowed in earlier episodes
Do you...work at Sunrise? Did you have forthcoming knowledge of everything that was gonna happen before the show even began anon?
best girl
needs more art
>>14005799
>A walking cyber-newtype reference won't go berserk
Something like the Emoby system isn't unique, it was only a matter of time before it went haywire like they usually do and GBF would obviously take that route.
>>14005799
Cyber newtype and not!cyber newtypes going berserk has been a cliche of the franchise since zeta. People were predicting it from her first appearance.
>>14005807
>>14005813
okay but Feleni has no way of know what any of that shit is.
Idiot.
>>14005807
The helmet was obviously doing something, I forgot to add.
>>14005820
and to all the characters in the show it just looked like a costume.
>tfw upset /m/ with this prediction on early shots of Miss Sazabi and turned out I was right in the end
>>14005828
the pink Gerbera Tetra was rad too
Kirara has good taste in MS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maoOI-F9Gks
>>14005803
she actually had a good amount. Well not next to Fumina or Aila, but still.
>>14005856
Im surprised Rinko gets so much
>>14004415
That moment inFafner Exodus when Hester Gallop showed up the first time.probably caused at least 90% of the people watching it to rage.
>>14005577
>>14004451
I'm rewatching it and it's not even an actual problem. The show has a lot of them but this is one utterly silly complain.
>>14005159
This made me puke so hard, this was such an undisguised one way rape to make the degenerate fangirls' favorites look good. Creative integrity : long gone.
>>14005745
>Fellini
>implying she didn't drop him the second she realized he was scoring other bitches in her back and focused on her carreer
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>>14006085
you kidding, she probably had him by the balls
>>14006128
>you kidding
You know it's true.
>>14006134
you don't go back to cold cuts when you had filet mignon
>>14006138
You get bore of eating filet mignon everyday, especially when you know you can get all sorts of other delicacies.
>>14005659
> I know /m/ hates AGE at times, but it feels like the most vocal ones about it are Seed apologists trying to pass the buck for all of Seed's fuckery.
I like how you talk about other people passing the buck, and then pass the buck yourself, putting the blame on SEED apologists instead of just saying that AGE had it's own issues. It was a bad series. The worst in my opinion. I don't agree with most of /m/ on it's biggest issues (I don't care about Kio), but it's bad for a lot of reasons. Get over it.
>>14005993
She's a 100/10 thick MILF with a fantastic personality and manages to be the most Kawaii with a capital K chick in the entire fucking show.
She's also voiced by Sailor Moon.
So....yeah...FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP
>>14006327
>That entire post
Nah.
>>14006370
> That entire post
Nah.
>>14006368
why are there no shops of this placing her in a porno theater surrounded by cocks?
>>14005745
Wow, that's just straight up colored Yasuda lineart huh?
Didn't even bother hiding it
>>14005753
There was also (a married) Nils, who also showed up for exactly one episode.
>>14006385
Because Rinko is for brutal yet tender balls deep pounding and cuddling.
Not for whoring.
>>14005159
you do know there are people that love that ending, right? like tvtropes.
>>14006398
TvTropes are scum anon.
>>14006393
It's also canon that he's now so absolutely broken that it would be cheating for him to participate in any official matches.
>>14006418
More that he knows the system so well after building it that he'd have an inside advantage rather that he's so good at fighting.
>>14006430
He outfought reiji and sei and only lost because of superglue hacks
>>14006327
>AGE
>The worst in my opinion
>anything but Destiny
Either watch Destiny or kill yourself.
>>14006438
So what? Kawaguchi is good at fighting too, but he isn't disqualified. Nils is out canonically because he built the new Plainly system and for his battling skills
>>14006439
> he has a different opinion
> he best fall in line with mine or else it's not valid
>>14006444
Built the new Plavsky system and not for his battling skills even. Damn autocorrect.
>>14006444
>he has a different opinion
When you put Destiny anywhere but at the bottom it's not a different opinion, it's downright brain damageor being a 14 years old fujo which isn't any different.
>>14006449
Or else you're a 14 year old faggot for trying to force your opinion and hiding unnecessary shit.
Can't you just enjoy what you like, without having to put it in a list of either being good or bad?
>>14006444
Yes that's my point.
He's one of the best fighters there and more then likely would have given kawaguchi a run for his money. And that's before the plavsky hax.
Now that he basically knows every single thing there is about the pseudo-plavsky system he's unstoppable.
Only through complete and utter bullshit hax and knowing more about the system then him on top of being a better fighter can someone hopefully stop him. And the only one who can do that is probably Sei. PROBABLY.
He's canonically the most powerful and dangerous gunpla master in the entire series.
>>14005774
>Adult Yurin
thanks for rubbing salt on that wound again, Anon.
>>14005635
wait. Zaft? why Zaft?
I though Lacus used her boy-toy to basically conquer the universe under her own name.
>>14006478
Your point is that he's so dangerous full stop that he can't be left battle and with an implied emphasis on how dangerous he is at fighting. He confirms himself in Try that his skill level at fighting has shit all to do with it and that it's because he built the new Playsky system that he can't fight. Which is different.
>>14006461
Where do you think you are?I agree.
>>14006492
You did watch GBF correct?
Everyone EVERYONE acknowledges that he's one of the top gunpla masters(what do they call the pilots in the series I'm drawing a blank) in the series.
He only ONLY lost against reiji and sei because sei is a fucking ingenious gunpla engineer AND reiji has been outed as using his bullshit innate newtype plavsky skills this whole time.
That is canon.
This is all canon.
Now that he's built a quasi plavsky system from the ground up and is thus privy to every secret it has, he's unstoppable.
He can no longer participate in gunpla because on top of being one of the best pilots and builders he's a plavsky wizard.
The only ONLY person in the entire series that can probably beat him now is Sei.
>>14006444
>Kawaguchi is good at fighting too, but he isn't disqualified.
Meijin however is so good and won so many times they basically had to invent a whole new league for him and all the other guys from the first show to go in to stop hogging the wins from potential up and comers.
Also Nil's isn't officially disqualified. He just refrains himself from playing because he feels he knows too much about the system for it to be a fair fight.
>>14006505
He can no longer compete because he built the new Plavsky system. That's it. That's all. No more reason needed. No more reason given. His skill as a battler is irrelevant to the decision or discussion.
>>14006507
Kawaguchi isn't in a new league - the Try guys are. They talk about the nationals as some far off goal and compete in inter-school competitions. The people in the original were all in an international competition and Kawaguchi still is.
>>14006487
Simple, the idiot installed Kira as the head of ZAFT, hence the white coat.
>>14006509
Knowing everything about how the plavsky system fucking works does not mean you'll be an invincible super fighter simply because of it dumbass.
Niels has been using skill on top of plavsky hax to stomp everyone from the moment he was introduced.
And it's canon that everyone considered him a real threat because of his skill and his understanding of plavsky and how to use it.
Now that he's basically it when it comes to knowledge of plavsky and still one of the worlds best pilots he's basically unstoppable.
Your line of reasoning that only his knowledge of plavsky makes him a threat is stupid.
If a person can be technically brilliant and no every single move of a martial art but be totally unable to fight worth a fuck will he be unstoppable in a fight?
Fucks sake. Sei's entire thing was he is a fucking genious when it comes to building undrstanding of gunpla and has innate almost scary knowledge of everything gundam and gunpla and he couldn't fight worth a lick.
Are you saying the basic premise behind sei and reiji is stupid?
>>14006524
He flat out says in Try he's not competing because he built the new Plavsky system. You can consider him dangerous for a combination all you want but it isn't canon. Only the Plavsky bit is.
>>14006526
Dude, I keep telling you that his understanding of how the system works means fuck all.
It's his skill at gunpla, modeling, ontop of his canon ability to manipulate plavsky.
Now that he knows everything about plavsky and is directly responsible for every new piece of tech that utilizes it he's unstoppable.
Just leave it.
He doesn't compete because he's a god king. It would be like going to an orgy and having a ten inch bbc and 7 inch tounge and being built like a guy on the cover of a romance novel.
Shit would be unfair.
>>14006531
It doesn't matter what you keep saying because the episode in question will remain the same regardless. Which is to say he recused himself because of and only because of his having built the new system and having inside knowledge. It has nothing to do with his battling skill.
>>14006149
Fellini's at an age where you start to think about settling down, especially if a hot idol who shares your interests (kinda) is there for the taking.
>>14006552
>Fellini's at an age where you start to think about settling down
>24
Wow nigga. Are you for real?
>>14006540
Have you acutally seen GBF and are shouting about nothing, or are you having a sperg attack because you don't want to admit that he's not in gunpla anymore because he's too good at the game.
Being the programmer and artist for a fighting game won't make you good at playing it anon. Will help, but unless it's built to make you personally good at it and shit on others....you won't have a leg up.
>>14006531
In the actual episode he appears in he literally just says "I don't compete because I designed the system." Everything else you're trying to say is just stuff you've projected onto a brief cameo.
Just...Try in general.
I've never been so disappointed in an /m/ series before.
>>14006565
So at what point did he become a garbage pilot
>>14006570
Nobody's saying he did. The statement "I'm not competing because I built the new system" and his skill as a pilot are unrelated axioms.
>>14006559
I'm not saying you get married and move to the suburbs at 24, but most guys I know start getting into more stable long-term relationships in their mid to late twenties, even if it's just with their Char bodypillows.
>>14006390
It appears for like, 5 seconds. No need for redesign.
>>14006562
Can you please stop throwing up strawmen about what I have or haven't seen? He literally says in the episode he's not competing because he built the new system. That's it. That's all. His battling skill has nothing to do with it. You can cry sperg all you want, but it doesn't change that he's out for that and that alone and nothing to do with being an insurmountable obstacle.
Which wouldn't matter regardless. If he was that good simple through skill and knowledge he'd gained from any other source he'd just be a challenge to future battlers/builders no matter how much he won. Plenty of sports shows, movies and animations have done the same. And no-one cares how good said obstacle is or how much they know. It's only because he built the system he doesn't fight. Same reason people who build a game don't compete professionally - because their knowledge marks them out regardless of skill.
>>14006572
It's still implied that he'd body anyone that tries to fight him regardless.
>>14006579
That's fucking retarded.
The guys who make SF5 don't compete in the tourney's because regardless of their knowlege they can not hang.
Period.
Niels is both a world class fighter and built the fucking game.
He can't compete because he's broken.
Just stop. The fuck is wrong with you .
>>14006587
They don't compete because they're not allowed. Simple as. They built the game, they know the hitboxes, movement systems, specials and all through unfair means to an absurd degree. Skill has nothing to do with it. And Nils makes no mention of his skills. Why do you think so many sports stories have guys that won that sport several times over and have never been beat because they're so good? Skill level doesn't and never has mattered, because it's just a marker to pass for someone else and nothing more.
Just stop. The fuck is wrong with you? See. I can write stupid shit that paints a narrative that you're wrong too. I don't though, because doing so is dumb. So stop doing so and just discuss and let your points stand for themselves.
>>14006576
>most guys I know
>even if it's just with their Char bodypillows
Confirmed for no Fellinis.
>>14006584
Definitely, especially since his strategy of Plavsky hacks dominates the current meta. I would have liked to see him and Meijin fight it out in an exhibition (pinnacle of building vs pinnacle of Plavsky manipulation) but that would have required Try to come up with something interesting.
>>14004415
Not sure about /m/ but I will never forgive GBF for wasting the threefold best girl on such underwhelming fight.
>>14006587
>he's not allowed to compete because he's too good!
Yeah, everyone remembers when Michael Jordan was banned from basketball for life because he was too good. That's a thing that happens.
>>14006603
Kawaguchi isn't the pinnacle of building. He doesn't even build his own suits for competition in the original - Alan and his lab did. Sei is a better builder.
>>14006611
>Michael Jordan was banned from basketball for life because he was too good
No, that was because he became a furry.
>>14006595
Knowing all of the moves and hit boxes does not mean you'll be able to exploit them. Knowledge of a thing does not equal practical ability to use a thing.
That's sei's entire fucking thing you idiot.
He does not compete because he's both world class, he was spanking reji and sei even with rejis's newtype space magic and seis mutant genius.
He lost by luck LUCK.
Now that plavsky hax is the name of the game and he wrote that fucking game now..
He can no longer compete.
Why? Not just because he built the system, but because he's still a world class fighter, he built that system, AND most of his abilities were based on manipulating plavsky.
He's broken, he knows he's broken, everyone else know's he's broken, and the entire goddamned gunpla community would riot if he competed.
>>14006637
Why is this so important to you?
>>14006613
Even if he doesn't make them, aren't top-performance suits his whole shtick in the first season? And everyone treats his red Gundam the same in Try.
>>14006637
Except Sei's thing was he was that good and didn't know it, he was just too worried about scratching his gunpla and had to get over it. Nils didn't lose by luck. He lost because of intelligence. Sei didn't apply glue by luck. He applied it purposefully. That is the opposite of luck.
Nils literally says he doesn't compete because he built the system. Not because of a combination or just his battling skill (which would never happen), but because he built the new system. And that alone. Anything else is just your own canon.
No-one would care if he competed. No-one would riot. Ral wanted him too, Sei and Kawaguchi would probably like him too, as would Fellini and such too. He just doesn't. Canonically because of his knowledge and his knowledge alone.
>>14006642
>More that he knows the system so well after building it that he'd have an inside advantage rather that he's so good at fighting.
Didn't you write this?
Why do you NEED him to not be a good pilot anymore?
>>14006647
Intelligence means that he would have superglue at the ready to use as a way to block niels plavsky ninja bullshit power. Not because sei had a eureka moment while staring at some superglue dumbass.
Secondly Sei's entire goddamned thing is he's good at everything except piloting. That he learned he was a good pilot all along means dick. He was still getting his shit slapped on the reg. INSPITE of his knowledge and intelligence you gunt.
Yes the top guys want him to play, he's their bro and rival. It's also kind of like wanting to take down a GM in an MMO.
I reiterate. He's now so absolutely broken if you add in the last season that he can not play gunpla anymore. He'd end up doing to the other side what a black guy does to a blue haired lesbians cunt. Hours of savage pounding followed by a sad tearful regret filled cabride back to her and her girlfriends apartment.
>>14006662
Literally no-one has said he's not a good pilot anymore. Except you. Only that his being a good pilot played no part in his decision, which was motivated solely by his having built the system.
Sei had glue on hand. He had it for a different reason, but he still had it. Intelligence doesn't mean forseeing every eventuality, it means being good at dealing with. Which he did. Sei never piloted on the reg while having gotten used to sacrificing his gunpla. He beat Kawawguchi with frankenstein gunplas. He was good because he was okay with them being hurt and had the skill all along. That was the point. You gunt (what the hell that is I've no idea).
The top guys want him to play and they're the international competitors we know so they're all that count. We don't know anyone else would riot. That's purely your conjecture. And silly one at that.
He's not that broken. Your reiteration means nothing. He said himself he quit because of his having built the system. That is the canon part. It being canon was the original part, and his skill doing so has nothing to do with it by his own admission and by CANON.
>>14006662
>Didn't you write this?
>Why do you NEED him to not be a good pilot anymore
I didn't write that. And I don't need him to not be a good pilot, I'm the guy that said he'd be especially good since his strategy is now dominating the meta. I just don't get why it's so important to you that everyone agree with your personal canon (he's banned from competition because he's too good) instead of what's stated on screen ("I built the system, so I figured it'd be unfair.")
>>14006680
Him having built it means nothing if he's not a good pilot.
Him having built it means nothing if he can't exploit it.
Him having built it plus him being a world class pilot and him being able to abuse the plavsky system is why he can't and shouldn't play anymore.
That you simply refuse to acknowledge this and chalk it up to this black box that has fuck all to do with anything is bordering on ridiculous.
It's canon that one of the best gunpla guys who built a system of fighting that included high level plavsky manipulation said that he will no longer compete because he built the system.
Thus he would be far too broken to ever compete on an even level with anyone save for maybe sei or renji. The former because he's an idiot savant and the latter because he's a newtype who can see and manipulate plavsky particles.
>>14006692
I have at no point stated that he's banned from competion because he's too good. I simply said in an offhanded remark that he'd be pretty broken if he actually did compete and it would totally be unfair.
Someone else started tarding on about how his piloting skill and entire gimmick of manipulating plavsky with tech means nothing and he simply said he won't compete because he built the system.
I said that's wrong and we've been arguing ever since.
Mostly me stating that the reason he can't compete is because he's too good and the other person saying his skill with gunpla and plavsky manipulation gimmick means nothing.
BTW.
There is no NEW META it's the exact same fucking meta, they just added some retarded garbage about assimilation, running out of plavsky and plavsky lions and birds.
>>14006368
>Sailor Moon
But this is /m/ so the more hype voice share is Murrue
>>14006784
It's canon he stopped because he built the system. Anything else is your own interpretation and not canon. That you simply refuse to acknowledge this and chalk it up to skill, knowledge and some kind of unobtainable peak (which would just excite the cast of the original, not horrify them) has fuck all to do with anything and is bordering on the ridiculous.
>>14006803
I reiterate.
>Him having built it means nothing if he's not a good pilot.
>Him having built it means nothing if he can't exploit it.
>Him having built it plus him being a world class pilot and him being able to abuse the plavsky system is why he can't and shouldn't play anymore
>>14006834
I reiterate
> that's not the canon explanation and saying it's canon he's out for being too broken rather than building the system is untrue.
>>14006803
I'd stop bothering with them. It's clear their precious Tumblr head cannon is more important than reality. And as Airi has taught us, Imagination > Reality.
>>14006844
>>14006842
I know that he said he doesn't play anymore because he designed the system. That's not in contention.
We are arguing about the significance of it and what that means.
I say that him building the system combined with his piloting and building talent as well as his gimmick of manipulating plavsky makes it totally unfair for him to compete.
You are stating, NUH UH HE JUST SAID HE WONT COMPETE BECAUSE HE BUILT IT AND THATS ALL STOP BRINGING STUFF UP AND DISCUSSING ANYTHING
This is not fucking head canon. This is me stating why it would be unfair and you have been stating that no that is not true, because he never said that specifically.
>>14006879
> we're arguing about the significance of it and what that means
The original argument was that it was canon he didn't fight because he's too broken. Which isn't true. I've also used the word interpretation several times because that's your interpretation and not anyone elses. And that it also isn't in the episode.
>>14006892
If he's not given an advantage that's so significant that he no longer plays or even does exhibition stuff anymore...then why would he excuse himself from competing?
What does it matter if he built it if he can't fucking exploit the system with skill.
Why can't you understand that?
>>14006919
He is given an advantage though. Because he built the system everyone is competing on. Which is an advantage. And which he literally said is the reason he's no longer competing. Why can't you understand that?
>>14006879
>We are arguing about the significance of it and what that means
How's art school going for you then?
I don't think you remember but Nils originally became interested in Gunpla Battle because of the plavsky system and he wanted to study it, the pursuit of science is his number 1 goal (being a giant weaboo is number 2). After figuring out how it works and replicating it for more Gunpla Battle he probably switched his focus on how to use it to benefit society (while crushing that Yajima puss).
You really have to be an autistic sperg to think it's anything else.
>>14006834
>>14006842
I'd like to submit these two to three things upsetting /m/.
Both of you have stated your case a dozen times, just let it go.
>>14004415
Rebuild 3.33
>>14006844
it's because autistic think that the words that come out of characters mouths, especially in CONTEXT SENSITIVE; THE LANGUAGE are completely sacrosanct and the full extent of what is. Instead of being, you know, words out of someone's mouth.
>>14006953
I watched 3.33 with a friend
after we finished it i couldn't think of anything to say except "i'm glad gainax ran out of money the first time"
holy shit i can't wait for the absolute disaster 4.44 will be
>>14006957
Funny when you're adding context and I never said a word about language. You're giving your own interpretation of his words, and making trying say something that's canon something that isn't actually canon.
>>14006953
Im still triggered for that shiti didnt saw yet.
Still waiting to the 4th one.
>>14006964
And you can't prove he wasn't being humble when he said it?
>>14006957
I'm going to need you to run that through an editor and repost it because you've lost me. Are you trying to explain away that there's a subtle context to Nils' words because he's speaking in Japanese? Because I'm Japanese I'll let you in on a little secret that you may have missed in the context, Nils is American on a show for children.
>>14006974
And you can't prove he was. Which means nothing and I've no idea what you're trying to prove by asking for that. Or that they meant what you said and not what they actually said, which had no shades of anything else in it. What I can prove is what he said. And what is canon (which was the original point), which is different from what you're saying.
>>14006990
Knowing how plavsky works and even building the system means nothing if he's not good enough to exploit it without cheating.
That's what I've been saying.
He can no longer compete because with his skillset and his intimate knowledge of the technology that they are playing on, he would be unbeatable.
He states that he does not compete because he has an unfair advantage. I simply added the addendum that his unfair advantage would make him unbeatable.
You went completely batshit and started screaming ITS JUST BECAUSE HE BUILT THE SYSTEM HE WONT BE REALLY GOOD!
I then countered with that he has to be good for him to bow out of playing. You then kept saying that I'm wrong because he never explicitly said or indicated that he's good nor has GBTry actually shown him being broken.
I then went on give evidence. You then went on to say that him being a good pilot and his gimmick of manipulating plavsky particles is head canon.
If he's not bowing out because of skill then why is he bowing out? He can't cheat because everyone would know.
Why else would he not play.
>>14007020
> Knowing how plavsky works and even building the system means nothing if he's not good enough to exploit it without cheating.
Which is your interpretation. And thus not canon. And which is stupid, because no-one in the cast of the first season would care were it true - they'd just see it as another challenge. You don't kick someone off a sport for being too good and hogging all the wins. Designers don't compete for the same reason Nils doesn't - inside knowledge, skill be damned - because their skill is unimportant. Which is what he said. Which is what is canon. And what was canon is the point.
You can't prove what you're saying. Therefor it's not canon. Anything else is your interpretation and no amount of "but I'm saying/reitering it" will make it canon. Or true for that matter.
>>14005693
Nevermind when it all stops being about tactics or modelling and instead becomes particle bullshit. You're playing rock-paper-scissors and suddenly kids start drawing out machinegun and atom bomb.
>>14007033
>If he's not bowing out because of skill then why is he bowing out? He can't cheat because everyone would know.
Why else would he not play.
>>14007064
For the reason he said perhaps? That he built the system and thus that his knowledge is too intimate.
>>14007064
See >>14006979
Yajima puss is a powerful motivator
>>14007077
And?
His knowledge of the system is intimate. What does that mean?
How would he exploit that?
>>14007080
Fuck hot Japanese princess who's loyal has his back and that level of pushy that will tell a nigga to get off his ass and fight back when he's feeling like a bitch nigga.
We get it. He has the second-third best waifu in the series. Has nothing to do with anything I've said.
>>14007124
We'd have to know what he knows to know how he'd exploit what he knows. And we don't. If you don't think you can use inside knowledge to exploit a system though you're a fool. There's a reason that kind of thing is looked badly on in all walks of life.
>>14007133
You haven't actually explained anything. You're still pretending that his canon skillset has nothing to do with why he stopped competing.
>>14006927
I'd be interested to see how they can use this crazy sci-fi tech for things other than toy robot fights. First thing that comes to mind would be delicate surgical operations where tiny robot hands might be safer than bigger human hands, but I'm sure there are others.
>>14006406
This. When I tried to point out anything negative in regards to the main trio's reception, it all got deleted from the YMMV section. Plus, Sekai's profile conspicuously doesn't say anything about his "actually, I don't even care about any of this" moment. Those site owners are blatant Try Fighters fanboys.
>>14007198
Holy shit you two faggots.
Whether he would abuse it or not is irrelevant. It would be seen as an unfair advantage in a tournament. Any of his wins would be seen as possible cheating. Not to mention his play style revolves around manipulating plavsky, which he has knowledge of that nobody else has because he is the creator.
>>14007198
You haven't actually explained (or proved) anything. You're still pretending that his canon knowledge alone isn't why he stopped competing. Or that his canon skillset is why stopped competing. I'd ask you to prove it, but you can't.
>>14007221
Congratulations - that's what I've been saying all along by saying that his inside knowledge alone was why he stopped playing.
>>14007221
This is why testers for games are banned from competing in tournaments because of some unknown exploit that they could be using to game the system.
>>14007207
This, I'm pretty bummed we didn't see this explored more in Try.
>>14007247
>>14007246
Then stop arguing.
>>14007247
>This is why testers for games are banned from competing in tournaments because of some unknown exploit that they could be using to game the system.
That's idiotic. "Regular" players find exploits all the time.
>>14007250
But I'm not arguing senpai I'm talking about sweet Yajima puss and Plavsky particles being used for the greater good
>>14007261
Carry on then, Carrorine was truly a best.
>>14007246
No I said that you fucking retard. You've just been arguing like a petty little cunt while explaining fuck all for god knows what reason.
I actually stopped paying attention to this thread because I honestly had no fucking clue as to what your problem was or what you were bitching about.
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>>14006604
>that car ride home where poor not Allenby is dejected after losing on accident in the first round to a cotton stuffed joke
How would you bring her smile back
>>14007553
Hmmm
A Gundam marathon while I wear her like a hockey mask.
>>14007553
Inform her that there are other feminine mobile suits that look, and would probably perform, better than Nobel. She doesn't look like the stereotypical girly girl style suits her anyway.
Also this
>>14007561
>>14007553
Make her dress up like Jupiter and - well, what >>14007561 said.
>>14007561
>>14007575
>>14007576
> She turns out to be a complete freak.
>>14007582
>she makes you wear the mask
>>14004487
It was a great gimmick no matter how you thought about it, given how minovsky particles work. It makes you wonder why no real Gundam series ever tried doing it.
If nothing else, this thread has found a new way to make /m/ rage. Good work, shitposting artisans.
>>14007575
But performance in the BF universe depends on how well you build your gunpla, rather than its source material. And plavosky hax.
What she needs is a customized Nobel with an inner frame and plavosky bullshit.
>>14007561
>>14007575
>>14007576
Okay I was thinking McDonalds or something
>>14007606
I never understood what was supposed to be allowing all the ridiculous Plavosky channeling, deflecting, absorbing etc.
Did I miss something, or did they just kind of glaze over it as "oh they used special materials and techniques"
>>14007582
>>14007606
http://www.gunjap.net/site/?p=275959
>>14007624
Pretty much. Like the yakuza guy with the Apsalus had put a special lair of coating on it to emulate I-fielding, or SBS had metal parts in its rifle to endure higher power beams. Or how they had an entire PPS team working with Haro-bots in a holographic environment on board a scale replica of the Ptolemy JUST to build the Amazing Exia so well it could use proper Trans-Am.
>>14005552
It's not like Shinn, Rey, or Lunamaria were any good as pilots. They were incredibly underwhelming the entire time. Kira had to fight Athrun and friends in the beginning while Shinn had trouble with Neo's fodder.
It'd be like if SEED had Kira fighting Dearka, Issac, and Piano only. Those 3 would have died before the Archangel even went to Earth.
>>14007653
Ill give you Rey and Luna but calling Shin not a great pilot is a bald faced lie.
>>14005792
>the players on the stage don't get the benefit of meta knowledge
Actually they did. Most of them watched Gundam after all. Guys like Ral literally lived it.
>>14007538
> he's out because he built the new Plavsky system and has inside knowledge of it
> different from he's out because he could cheat using his knowledge after building the new Plavsky system
The only difference is you used the word cheat and I should have all along apparently.
>>14007686
Only read like a post from either side and both of you stopped arguing about it so mission accomplished.
>>14007673
Yes they knew about the show, but just like in reality. It was just a show.
If someone showed up at a cosplay event dressed up like a cyber-newtype, would you expect them to suddenly go insane and start stabbing people? No, because it's just a show.
>>14007666
He isn't. The only person he ever defeated worth noting was Kira, and the odds were well in his favor, no different than a middle school kid pulling guns and knives on an adult, while the adult just tries to safely disarm the kid with a pistol. Then at the end the kid literally turned out to have bombs strapped to himself.
Anything Shinn could have done, Kira/Athrun/Mwu/Rau could have done better. And those 4 were the only people who mattered.
Shinn at best was the champion of the pub tier, but it's hard to say if he would even beat Isaac with equal suits early on before his SEED spam.
>>14007624
Near as I can figure the plavsky allows for plastic to be moved around intricately using the mind as well as transforming the holographic imagery into a quasi solid material by having the plavsky particle infuse and mimic the looks of certain things. Planets, lasers etc etc.
It's been noted that certain materials reacts in certain ways, which leads to the differing builds and using certain coatings stuffings etc etc.
The Gbase holds all of their gundams settings, skills, weapons, and materials.
From there the system figures out how to interact with the gunpla and builds an accurate representation of what it does and how it moves.
The plavsky, because it is a psychoreactive particle, allows for the gunpla to do all kinds of ridiculous shit as long as you're good at imagining it and have a strong enough will or emotional connection to bring it out .
>>14007595
Because you can't make actual machines clear because they have components that have to be made of specific materials.
>>14007686
No, you never ever once said that. You in fact visciously and retarded argued against that very simple fact for hours on end without ever once explaining why it was "head canon" and wrong.
Also, you galoping fucktard, I never once said fucking anything about cheating. I was discounting cheating because I honestly believed, that since you spent all of this time saying that his skill has fuck all to do with it, that you were saying he would cheat.
Were you arguing to save face or something? Cause...people can actually go back and read the convo.
>>14007827
> people can actually go back and read the convo
Yes, they can.
>>14006430
> More that he knows the system so well after building it that he'd have an inside advantage rather that he's so good at fighting.
>>14007826
then just make those clear, like when they made pepsi clear
>>14007811
Keep in mind this is mostly my own understanding of how it works based on what we see and are told in the show.
Plavsky particles react with "gunpla plastic". Most likely by it being one of the only things the particles can "touch". During battle, gunpla are covered in a form fitting layer of particles with the gunpla's appearance underneathe mimicked by a hologram on top. This layer applies small amounts of force over the gunpla to make it move and fly, similar to how turn A's beam drive is supposed to work. On top of that the hologram on top also simiulates damage it receives during battle (cuts, burns, melted areas, etc). In reality, when it takes a hit from an opponents attack a stronger than normal amount of force is applied to the area hit by the attack which can damage the gunpla under the layer. When the field and particles fade, holographic damage like melted holes and slash marks disappear, leaving only impact damaged parts like we see in the series.
The fields themselves are holograms made of particles, and as such gunpla can physically touch them. Other materials however pass through as can be seen in the show when someone puts a hand or such on thr table and it passes through the terrain or the cages around the fighters.
Materials like metal barrels and thrusters aren't actually reactive with the particles. Instead, during the initial scan/start up, the system itself recognizes them and adjusts the gunpla's performance accordingly for the higher build effort.
The particles themselves are definately reactive with human minds however. There is no denying that. But based on what we see in series this only seems to happen in high concentrations of particles such as those that involve a crystallized form of them.
>>14007219
It was probably just some salty user. Everyone on that website sucks. The only place that's not sickening in how much it shuns critique is the section dedicated to critique.
>>14007857
REKT
>>14007987
If you say so, since it's apparently only yourself you listen to.
>>14007999
But I'm not either of you faggots, I'm Yajima puss anon from earlier.
>>14007999
>>14007987
The only way that knowing how a system like that works and not cheat is being a good pilot and good at manipulating said system.
My contention is that his skill as a gunplayer and his gimmick of manipulating plavsky is why he would be unstoppable.
Your thing has been "he's not that good at fighting he quite because he knows the system too well".
Which is certainly NOT what the other person or I was saying at all.
You've been arguing me into the ground without explaining why, that his canon skillset has nothing to do with him not being able to compete anymore. I say that's stupid and wrong.
>>14008035
I've literally never said he wasn't good at fighting, that's all your own mind coming up with shit. I'd also love to know what else you think excusing himself for inside knowledge means?
>>14004415
Has anyone else pointed out how /m/ gave Nils shit non-stop for his attitude but Finnish bitch got a free pass at every available turn?
>>14008065
Your contention this entire time is that his knowledge is the only thing that matters not his ability to use said knowledge.
I've reiterated over and over again that his particular fighting style within the series itself would be particularly broken because of his knowledge of the system.
Your response this entire time is "it's canon that he excused himself because he knows too much and that's all, he just knows the system too well".
My response is that knowing the system means nothing if he can't use it. And the only way to use that system without having any skill would be to cheat and since everyone else will be able to easily see him cheating and the character's personality, thats out of the question.
At which point I then asked you "how would him knowing the plavsky system on a lover like level actually make him a threat if he couldn't use it in any real way". Your response?
"It's canon that he quit because he knows the system too well, anything else is headcanon".
At which point, that other guy came in and reiterated THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS ENTIRE FUCKING TIME. At which point you claimed that that's what you were saying.
And you weren't. I actually asked you multiple times to explain your dumbassery. And you didn't.
You're full of shit.
>>14008097
I loved his Little Negro Gaiden spoof, but I can understand why Aila got a pass.
