HI I'M EIN! PLEASED TO MEET YOU!
how does he eat
>>13989878Rectally.
>>13989878
I hope he eats those orphans.
Are you telling me Ein managed to become (Not)Gundam ?
>>13989893
lel
Friends?
>>13989878
He's a torso strapped to a suit with 3 alaya-vijnala nodules - he eats the same way you do.
>>13989875
HELLO, I AM VIFAM
>>13989875
>ein is one in German
He is now one with the mecha.
>>13989875
FrankenstEIN
>>13989875
>tfw when you love grazes so much you become one
>>13989875
I'm kind of frightened by how much this show loves grazes.
>>13989875
Hi I'm C.I.A
>>13989875
Psyco Graze looking good so far
>>13990009
If I pull you out of that Graze, will you die?
>>13990009
Hi, i am Elf
Carta dying evoked more feeling than Biscuit dying.I feel sorry for Gaelio.
Mika sperging out like a motherfucker was a let-down, I would have liked to see a duel.
>>13989875
>broad shoulders
>back mounted weapons
I approve
>>13990045
>Carta dying
Maybe she survived.
>>13990052
In one scene in the OP she fights with dead as fuck eyes.
Knowing McChocolate he's gonna rig her up to her Graze somehow.
Otherwise she's kill.
>>13990045
Agreed on both points, although I felt sad when Biscuit died.
Being Gaelio is fucking suffering.
>I was only twenty years old
>I loved graze so much, I owned all the movies and gunpla
>I pray to Crank every night, thanking him for the life I have been given
>"graze is love", I say, "graze is life"
>Mikazuki hears me and calls me a faggot
>He is obviously jealous of my devotion to Gjallarhorn
>I called him a space rat
>He wrecks my shit and kills Crank
>I am crying now, because my everything hurts
>I go into my pod and it is very cold
>I feel a warmth moving towards me
>I fell something touch me
>It's Gaelio
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear, "This is my Earth"
>He grabs me with his powerful Gjallarhorn hands and puts me inside a graze
>I'm ready
>I spread my ass cheeks for graze
>the Alaya-Vijnana system penetrates my butthole
>It hurts so much, but I do it for graze
>I can feel my anus tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his force
>I want to please graze
>He roars a mighty roar as he fills my butt with his love
>Gaelio walks in
>I graze him deep in the eyes and says, "thank you, now i can avenge lieutenant Crank"
>i fly through my window
graze is love, graze is life.
>>13990062
> In one scene in the OP she fights with dead as fuck eyes.
She's only in one scene in the OP and she doesn't have eyes with no shine in that part.
>>13990052
sadly it seems she is death, she has the same dark eyes that Biscuit before he die, some anon posted in the other thread that twitter confirmed her dead, suck to be her according to her graze manual all this mess was her first real battle
>>13989875
i warned you about the orphans bro
>>13990092
Good advice. My two year old niece has taken to biting, slapping and generally hurting. The only advice I've heard given is "do the same to her, it's the only way she'll understand".
>>13990086
How the fuck did she actually die though?
nothing penetrated the cocpit that i remember
>>13990107
General trauma, since he unit took a lot of blows, all of which would have been transmitted through the suit to her. Which is why her hair is out of place and she's kind of battered on the whole.
>>13990086
>some anon posted in the other thread that twitter confirmed her dead
>>13990107
>How the fuck did she actually die though?
She had enough of Okada's shit writing.
>>13990086
Everyone exists to job to Tekkadan.
>>13990125
As if anyone without combat experience could do anything other that job hard.
A masterpiece
>>13990135
Fucking pottery. Sasuga Okada.
>>13990135
>>13990153
Will Ein avenge him?
>>13990165
Considering how things are going, nah McGillis is getting Ein Killed in the same way
>>13990165
He will job.
>>13990135
>made the bad guys sympathetic just like 0079
OKADA
>>13990086
>>13990121
So did McGillis send her to die right after giving her that pep talk, like some cold hearted motherfucker, or did he actually expect her to survive and win?
>>13990193
Nop he kind of wanted her to die horrible, he is just a hypocrite and good with words
>>13990170
Ein is already dead.
>>13989875
Meh, calling it now, he'll die the same way his senpai/foster papa/Crank died:
> Psycho Graze gets trashed
> Cockpit hatch gets torn off
> Mikazuki sees Ein's heavily injured modified robo torso body
> Begs him to kill him so he can be reunited with Crank-senpai
> Gets shot by Mikazuki with a pistol
>>13990086
Nothing of value was lost
>>13990203
Truly a model Char then
>that'll teach you to demand I climb trees
>>13990204
Even in death I still serve
>>13990205
>for Mika, it's just another Tuesday
>>13989875
>>13990210
That's a big Graze
>>13989875
Can't wait to see Ein Mask.
>>13990208
>twice people asked him if he's here to laugh at him
>practically has Carta doing due to the misfortune of her own birth
>talks about there being no lies in the words
Model Char indeed.
What the fuck is this thing even called, anyway? I don't think I've seen a name for it anywhere other than people calling it "big Graze" or "Psyco Graze."
>>13990223
UUUU
>>13990278
Not official but it seems is named EB-AX2 Graze Ein, also three stakes confirmed
>>13990077
Well, shit.
RIP in peas Sexvoice
>>13990292
So it's basically the Psyco Zaku. Fantastic.
>>13990292
>>13990300
I'm sure Daryl and Ein could bond over this and give each other a handshake and a hug if they still had arms.
Thread Theme:
https://youtu.be/WM8bTdBs-cw
So what were the extent of Ein's injuries? Whats left of him now?
>>13990292
>>13990388
He has no legs now and is directly plugged into the MS via Alaya-Vijnana
>>13990292
I kinda want Ein not to die so we can fully enjoy the novelty of elevating an entire mobile suit to the role of actual character.
>>13989939
is there like a gjallahorn guy who has to go in the cockpit and give hima bento or something?
>>13990174
aside from Char and Garma sympathy for villains was not a thing in 0079, especially when you have less for the protags.
>>13990399
Why did it take so long?
>>13990399
>>13990407
>what is setsuna
>>13990009
yo
>>13990411
The mobile suit you dork.
I want bread-in-mouth full scale Nobel Gundam doing cute schoolgirl things without a lick of SD.
>>13990407
Well there's Dolores, but ZOE is only so close to gendum...
>>13990418
>what is setsuna
>>13990433
URUSAI
>>13989875
SUCH LUST FOR REVENGE!
>>13990388
He's just a torso now. He doesn't even have arms.
>>13990443
VOCAL CHORD PARASITES
>>13989875
I bet he can be besties with Setsuna.
>>13990403
Except a pretty big point about 0079, especially for its time, was how the antagonists didn't have to be moustache-twirlingly evil and while Gihren fulfilled that role you had Garma, Ramba, those Zeek coolguys that almost managed to bomb the Gundam's joints with hovertrucks, Dozle as a family man willing to sacrifice himself for his men and even Degwin as an old tired guy whose favorite son died and was 100% done with the war.
>>13990450
He does.
They are now more Iron-Blooded than ever.
Well that moron from Thunderbolt's got nothing to bitch about.
He may have lost all his limbs, but at least he still has a fucking dick.
Carta's death was such a waste of a death tho. I felt for her far more than I did for Mika killing her. Mika is just an autist, nothing ellicits any emotions from him so it's just meaningless and boring and a waste of a shot at some sort of closure for the viewer. As it is, she just died, and nothing was resolved for her, Mika, the viewer, Gaelio, McGillis, or anyone. She might as well just have been a mook of something. Not even her penchant for duels and "honor in battle" and such silliness got decompressed. It was all just grunts and Mika's regurgitated, repetitive, overused autism-lines.
It wasn't bad, but it wasn't even good, when it could have been great. Just empty and directionless. It could have been made meaningful at least from the pov of Carta, but it wasn't because they wanted to insist on the Mika cryptic-autism point that they've been underscoring since ep.2
A waste of a good, convincingly conflicted character's death.
>>13989986
They're neat grunts.
>>13990450
Just make him a brain in a suit already.
>>13990494
Not needed, he is a Dreadnought now
Does he have a face or does he have facial prosthetics like a Cyborg style face plate with the glowing eye or Kuma's jaw thing?
>>13990487
What got me about Mika is that he somehow pulled Orga out of his funk just by being a fucking autist with ridiculous bloodlust. It's like if you read a short character description of Setsuna and just made a new character based on that.
>Tell me who to kill. Tell me what to destroy. Tell me. Orga what do I do? Orga who do I kill next. Orga. Orga tell me. Tell me Orga.
From the other thread/
>>13990531
We Yuusha EinKaiser now
>>13990531
Can it transform into a horse?
>>13989875
It looks very Makoto Kobayashi in that frame, doesn't it?
And does it have the model stand peghole in the front?
So, Ein has become Dingo. Kinda wish he was in the Grimgerde right now.
>>13990564
I wish the Grimgerde did... anything.
>>13990125
>Everyone exists to job to AEUG
>Everyone exists to job to League Militaire
>Everyone exists to job to Flit
>>13990582
well flit is awesome.
>>13990582
>League Militaire
In fairness, the enemy grunts were tougher than usual, so they had to get good fast.
>>13990462
This was so fucking cruel it both ruined and made Mika for so many people today.
>>13990506
>even in death I will kill kids
>>13990522
Well yeah, that and that he just treats Carta like any other grunt. But she isn't any other grunt, she's the named commander who killed Biscuit. It *should* have been meaningful for Mika. But fine, let's say he's an autist, it could have been made meaningful in some other ways, for Carta possibly. Heck, it could even have been meaningful in it's meaninglessness (if you want to make some sort of point in that vein), but instead it was truly generic, with Mika just being the same repetitive sperglord he's been for the whole season now. It was a waste.
And yeah, the Orga thing didn't work very well for me either. The whole episode was like they were trying to make some sort of point of how "making it" in life requires you to be heartless and ruthless or something like that, but it didn't feel heavy on the shoulders of the characters, because they were all acting like sociopaths rather than like people grinding their way through something tough.
So, I guess if the message is "being ambitious means you should be sociopathic" it sorta works as a standalone episode? It jives wrong with the rest of the series tho.
>>13990292
From next episode preview it seems he might be able to kill kids this time.
Worth that installation I guess.
>>13990666
It was meaningful for Mika though, he didn't even wait for Orga to give the order, he just got straight out into combat and killed everyone as fast and hard as he could. He was obviously angrier than usual, even through his mask of blank-faced autism. I think the point of it was to show that they've been kicked around for too long and have lost a certain amount of their humanity - the next episode or two will probably have them realise they've gone too far in some way.
You raise a good point about 'making it' in life requiring you be sociopathic, but it could be a case of saying that if you build your system and society so that it requires sociopathy to be successful then when those kids you've been beating around turn up on your doorstep they won't want a duel, they'll want to kill you and be done with it.
>>13990193
Yup. Gaelio was a cocktease, Carta is the real Garma.
>>13990694
It's a little late for that whole "we've gone too far we need to reflect on this" considering they only have a couple of episodes left. Any sort of development in that regard is going to feel rushed.
>>13990694
Mika got angry when he heard Carta's voice. There was a shot in the fight showing him do so as he heard her, presumably because he recalled that voice killing Biscuit. Orga backs down from the fight at the first chance despite Mika telling him Biscuit wanted them all to go to Mars together. If the episode has a moral it's not to go sociopathic and that Mika was the one in the wrong for doing so.
>>13990487
That's the fucking point. You're not supposed to like it. It's a show about kids piloting death machines ostensibly to right a wrong in a decadent and unfair world, but who are really driven by the need to be someone and find purpose in their lives. Tekkadan is essentially a proto Black Panther street gang shooting the police in order to get MLK and JFK to the Democratic Convention.
The situation is complex and whoever's the good guy depends on your perspective and the scope with which you view the events.
If we don't get at least one shot of Ein's mutilated torso plugged into a bunch of machines, I'm going to be more upset than I already probably will be.
>>13990694
That is the point I wish they would get to but I feel it will never come to full fruitition. Tekkedan are populated with child monsters, all killers at their core. Gjall helped to create through the society they basically created the thing that may be their undoing.
>>13990694
I think that cheapens the overarching themes of Gundam tho (and what has been presented as the themes of this very series so far as well). War is not horrible for sociopaths. Even Kudelia seemed like genuinely monstrous, being all serene and whatnot at the cost of their choices. That message works on scenarios with a much larger scale but, as is, it just dehumanizes your characters and justifies (even excuses) the deaths, rather than lament them. "Biscuit died in the pursuit of our righteous goal" becomes less of a tragedy and more of a simple, straightforward cost-benefit analysis "that's too bad but, eh! what can you do amirite?". Even the speech by Orga sounded just like what some opportunistic politician who cared nothing about the lives their crusade has cost them would say.
And, again, maybe that's the point you want to make, but I'm skeptical that it is, because you could have made it much better if you had, for instance, used Carta differently and more deliberately. Therefore, so far I think this line of analysis really is just me reading way too much into it to try and find some meaning to the narrative choices, which are seeming more and more like blunders instead.
I don't know about the "waiting for Orga's order" either. And, again, if they wanted to show Mika angry, there are about a zillion better (and more satisfying) ways to do it than with some weird may-or-may-not-be ambiguity.
>>13990716
>The situation is complex and whoever's the good guy depends on your perspective and the scope with which you view the events.
People actually believe this.
You know am I wrong in originally having wanted this series to basically be not only shorter, but a slasher movie in disguise, where Mika is the Jason and the victims are basically every Gundam stereotype out there? Like... I never expected any of this personality I'm seeing people complain about from Mika, I thought he was supposed to be Pacman basically (with even less of a personality). Just this...thing thats there to shut these walking stereotypes the fuck up. After multiple series' of these melodramatic protags I thought it would have been a bit of brief catharsis. Hell if anything, I'm mad this series trying so hard to be more dramatic than it actually is is getting in the way of Mika being just that.
Fuck, I hope he smashes Totally-Not-Char in the most anti climactic way before any of his schemes have a chance to do anything.
So yeah, there's a lot about this series I haven't been fond of but I've never expected more or less from Mika himself. He's a walking plot gimmick more than a character and its one of the very few things this series has been consistent about.
We're going to end up with the latest model of Jesus Yamato for the next series, just mark my words.
>>13990733
I think that point could be made, but if so then play up the point of Carta's gallantry expectations more, and make a point of Mika despising them. Instead it's all left in the air without any clue as to what's going through anyone's minds, because Mika acting like a crazy sociopathic soldier is not new, and not particularly different against Carta than against anyone else. And if you had indeed actually made that point rather than just maybe-possibly-suggesting it, then when Gaelio inevitably raises it you're more emotionally invested in the plight of Carta/Gaelio/Gjallarhorn or the pain of Tekkadan or the unfairness of it all.
>>13990773
>Just this...thing thats there to shut these walking stereotypes the fuck up.
Kudelia is still alive, so he's doing a crummy job at doing that.
>>13990716
>complex
>Some dumb broad fighting an autistic child
>>13990785
I know right! What a drag.
>>13990716
Read that post again. IF that's the fucking point, then actually make it. Ever since Biscuit's death, this is a mess of almost points that aren't ever actually made. That's unsatisfying on every level, because you're left just watching things happen and stories being told that no one should care enough to tell anymore.
>>13990789
Anything can be reduced to a one-sentence summary depending on how facetious you're willing to be about it
>>13990804
That's exactly what happened. You can't simplify it any more than what was shown in show.
>>13990773
>>13990810
But 'dumb' misses out a lot of the context that she believes highly in honour and is naive in war, which leads to her downfall, and calling Mika an autistic child is mostly accurate but misses out at least some subtlety. There is a character under there, just not much of it. More like the potential for one if anything.
Also
>fight
please, it was a curbstomp
I actually love the Tekkaden kids being more bloodthirsty, the predictable goodie two shoe expectations of so many in this board can kiss my ass its what I've wanted from this series from the beginning. It was supposed to be a breath of fresh air from the at times sheer agonizingly patronizing vibe from most Gundam series, especially more recent ones. (that this series has sinfully tried to maintain via Kudelia, in a really clumsy way.)
That said though, the whole thing with revealing a characters' backstory and motivations right before killing them off, while certainly not new to IBO, is definitely bad storytelling especially if its being done so consistently.
I'm all for a non-heroic, anti-hero set of protagonists but this series has definitely had a n identity crisis for a good portion of it.
>>13990782
Mikazuki literally spells out his motivation last episode. He said that he won't stop until he and Orga gets to "their place", i.e. he has decided that it doesn't matter how many people he kills, as long as it manages to take him and Orga to a better place/life.
They've been doing nasty shit all their lives in order to be able to live on a day-to-day basis. Mikazuki saw Kudelia as a big break that will finally allow them to finally live a peaceful and secure life, so he's willing to massacre a bunch of people for her and Orga.
>>13990842
I agree, and I think part of the problem is this shift to bloodthirst mode, especially for Mika, is coming too late to be relevant. It needed to happen a couple of episodes ago to give time for them to really become demons, realise this and actually form a coherent response to it. As it is, they're probably going to shove in a 'they get even worse - they realise this - they repent and turn good again' all in the space of two episodes.
>>13990839
>But 'dumb' misses out a lot of the context that she believes highly in honour and is naive in war
>honour in war
So she's dumb.
>Mika an autistic child is mostly accurate but misses out at least some subtlety.
>IBO
>subtle
>>13990822
Is it edgy anonymous? Just wanting every now and then for the pretentiousness that bleeds out of these Gundam series' every damn time to get just taken down a notch for a bit? Especially after multiple series' of particularly melodramatic drama queens in flashy, colorful outfits monologue'ing for episodes at a time? Would that have been so bad?
Its all a moot point though because whatever I thought it might have been when this started, it ended up being more of that really.
>>13990842
>. It was supposed to be a breath of fresh air from the at times sheer agonizingly patronizing vibe from most Gundam series
Yet its the most patronizing Gundam anime to date because they still play the sympathy card with them.
>Look at these poor downtrodden ORPHANS, they know no better and this is how they were brought up
Meanwhile their enemies are rich overprivileged assholes who were given everything they weren't.
>>13990844
No one is arguing against that. These are not mutually exclusive ideas. You haven't made a point, anon.
>>13990869
"I watch animes, but I'm not like other animes... I hate the animes!!!
Heh... nothing personal, kid."
That is how you sound.
>>13990875
Yeah I know. Keep in mind all of that was what I thought going into the series but it's certainly not how things panned out.
>>13989878
Probably fed on an iv drip
>>13990869
>Is it edgy anonymous?
Yes, you gigantic faggot.
>>13990913
>nothing personnel kid
At least spell it right anon come on.
>>13990433
>>13990411
Setsuna didn't become gundam until the end of the series and we barely see him do anything
>>13990929
Ein hasn't become a gundam until the end of the series, and we are barely going to see him do anything.
>>13990926
Profound sadness
>>13990938
To be fair he has 3 episodes left compared to setsuna's 3 minutes, and even in those 3 minutes he was just a metallic human who piloted gundam,not the actual MS itself
Wait isn't robo Ein a mono-eye type from the looks of it so far?
So we've spent nearly half the series waiting for Ein to basically be turned into a Zaku?
>His name means "One" in German
>He's a monoeye now
BRAVO
>>13990857
>dumb frogposter
See, simple
HELLO
MY NAME IS EIN
HAJIME MASTE
>>13990069
>>13990857
>>honour in war
>So she's dumb.
There's a reason a bunch of nations have conventions from time to time to write out some things called 'war crimes'. And that's ignoring that commanders used to have meetings all the time prior to a battle back in the day without the opposing side shooting an arrow into their neck. Even now, military leaders with sufficient authority get taken to court to surrender rather than just exterminated.
>>13991026
I dunno. There's like, honor and the rules of engagement etc...and then there's wannabe victorian atristocrats trying to fight a modern war.
It's something I pick in in A LOT of anime cause its a stereotype a lot of mecha anime seems to love.
Was there a pilot integration procedure as gruesome as this in Gundam?
Ein is no longer human
>>13990462
>that blood spot
this means Mika is now the hardest and most villain-worthy Gun-tagonist ever.
he is a hollow empty shell filled with trigger finger reflex.
i know the redditor nigger-hipsters who run /m/ and /a/ want some rich flavorfull protagonist, but this is supposed to be an action show.
(Thanks, you are more like Okada than you know)
we just need a vessel for our ride.
let Mika take over, and let us ride the kill train until those 'nice children' are all dead
end result?
best Gundam show ever.
also, Carta had an amazing ass.....
>>13991089
Technically he's an UCHUU NEZUMI
>>13991060
in zeorymer the sub pilot chick has to have a egg stuffed in her vag for the shit to work
>>13991104
That's Zeorymer though.
>>13991091
Mika is the sort of guy that Yazan Gable would like to have a couple of beers with.
>>13991091
Here's your reply
>>13991060
>Was there a pilot integration procedure as gruesome as this in Gundam?
Yes, Thunderbolt. There wasn't shit left of Ein, and Ein is happy about this. It greatly undermines the personal tragedy of the situation - however, it reinforces the greater tragedy of the series where someone is totally cool with this happening.
>>13991039
>I dunno. There's like, honor and the rules of engagement etc...and then there's wannabe victorian atristocrats trying to fight a modern war.
Problem is that Gjallarhorn are a global organization of wannabe victorian aristocrats who haven't had to fight anyone. Probably a few skirmishes with pirates and some rogue Teiwaz affiliates on the fringes, but nothing too substantial. These aren't some out-of-touch elites blindly stepping into the battlefield, instead it's a set of elites who are finding themselves entirely mismatched against opponents who fight like nothing they've seen in centuries.
>>13991116
i like Gable too...
can i sit at their table?
>>13991119
>These aren't some out-of-touch elites blindly stepping into the battlefield, instead it's a set of elites who are finding themselves entirely mismatched against opponents who fight like nothing they've seen in centuries.
but they are blind.
they act like all those whites who want black people around, and then freeze up when one of them turns out more feral than expected.
fucking whitey
>>13991136
How well can you violate teenage girls in gundams?
>>13991091
>i know the redditor nigger-hipsters who run /m/ and /a/ want some rich flavorfull protagonist, but this is supposed to be an action show.
>we just need a vessel for our ride.
What, like several episodes passing of no action and no heroes ever dying?
>>13991136
>And then I told him: "This one is good to die anyway."
>Ha! Oustanding. Next time you tell them you're going to violate them. That always works for me.
>Oh look, it's Ali! Hey, Ali! Over here!
>>13991091
>Mika is such a great character, thank God Okada didn't have anything to do with this series she wrote or he wouldn't be!
What the fuck is this post?
>>13991026
Yeah, see, the Geneva Convention and having enough sense not to shoot vehicles marked with red crosses and troops with white flags is a bit different to someone thinking it's fucking medieval times - especially Carta, who outright fucking saw what a monster Mika was beforehand and what he did to her men even before he just threw honor to the wind and reduced them to paste outside of their mobile suits - and challenging them to a one-on-one duel, completely ignoring that she just killed one of their people.
What in the actual shit was Carta even thinking?
>>13991149
Okada only wrote for few episodes but gets tagged as main writer anyway?
>>13991181
Main writer doesn't write every episode. Nag no Asukara was clearly an Okada show despite only writing less than half the show
>>13991181
She's the series composer, meaning that she has final say in most stuff.
>>13991190
>>13991192
still this feels less her style then her usual shows.
>>13990069
Possibly the worst version of this pasta I've read in a long time.
>>13990069
I got a giggle out of the Graze's camera having the same shine as a character's eyes.
>>13991158
Well I think >>13991119 actually explained it fairly well.
>These aren't some out-of-touch elites blindly stepping into the battlefield, instead it's a set of elites who are finding themselves entirely mismatched against opponents who fight like nothing they've seen in centuries.
Which is a theme I actually love, I'm always for deconstructing flash and pomp in war in fiction if its done well. Its always interesting when similar "Reality checks" like that happen in real history too for me. For all this series' faults, it was one thing I was hoping to see a lot more of.
>>13991198
That's true.
If she had actually written the entire thing, it would be a much wilder ride.
>>13990727
Just watch Thunderbolt anon.
>>13990773
>all of these characters die in a regular Gundam series anyways
>but it's totally meta that they get killed in a shitty one
>>13991236
They did the exact same shit with A/Z and its just as dumb here and it was there. At least they're just making the Tekkadan look like savages than tactical geniuses.
>>13991304
Well, the difference is that at least Vers posed a threat.
>>13991317
Vers never posed a threat after the first two episodes.
>>13991317
>posed a threat.
>Despite being hyped at having otherworldly technology Earth forces are able to fight them to a stand still within a few months
>>13990462
I had to.
>>13990462
I said from the beginning when he killed Crank that he was just some edgy kid. Vindication.
>>13991328
A fair concession, but securing footholds on Earth and laying waste to armies, no matter how inept they may be, still manages to place itself above expecting a fair fight out of a gaggle of hardened killers, after you employed overwhelming force to try and kill them previously.
the problem with Mikazuki's attitude is that if you treat your enemies with such brutality, when the day comes where you need to surrender, your enemy will likely reciprocate.
The SS and the Japs themselves got a reputation for brutality and war crimes so the allies rarely took them prisoner, opting instead to execute them on the spot.
>>13990752
>And, again, if they wanted to show Mika angry, there are about a zillion better (and more satisfying) ways to do it than with some weird may-or-may-not-be ambiguity.
Indeed, they could just have showed him making a face, instead he was the same as when he fights a annoying grunt
>>13991380
nice meme
So Tekkadan are totally becoming the villains and McGillis will destroy both them and Gjallarhorn, right?
>>13991396
No, Tekkadan are not becoming the villains for killing a bunch of idiots allied with an oppressive government who thought they could get away with an honorable duel.
>>13990801
>Life is supposed to make sense
>Life is a story made to make you feel fulfilled
Mhm. It doesn't occur to you that this is the point? Biscuit's death unhinged Tekkadan. The only story that makes sense to them is vengeance and an accomplished mission. Outside of that, honor doesn't matter. Fairness doesn't matter. How the enemy feels, whether or not they can stop bloodshed by negotiating with the enemy? Doesn't matter. On some level, your humanity kicked in and you thought, "Fuck, Carta didn't deserve that. We know her perspective and she actually has some pathos behind her." But that's from our perspective as viewers. And that's if you don't recognize Tekkadan's actions as just in the greater scheme. In fact, you're reacting emotionally to one death when it was the death of someone who supported a destructive regime, one who her killers aim to reform.
So, again, who's right in this scenario?
>So, again, who's right in this scenario?
The bitchers cause they are worst than Tekkadan
>>13991380
>The SS and the Japs themselves got a reputation for brutality and war crimes so the allies rarely took them prisoner, opting instead to execute them on the spot.
Good, they deserved it.
The Russians too.
>>13991380
The allies didn't take many prisoner most of the time because they often killed themselves. Especially the Japanese. They often tried to, but couldn't.
>>13991380
merica and russia da good guys we din do nuffin remember nanking!!!! rememeber da jews!!!!!!
>>13991381
They did. He gets visibly angry when he hears Carta's voice.
>>13991026
The law of war is a strange thing. How likely are the generals of the winning side to be put in trial for what they've done to win? How likely is it that the laws are written loosely enough to allow for "interpretation?" I sit in on actual courses for actual professional who actually advise and litigate this sort of thing. What's drilled into their heads? "The law of war is not a suicide pact." You don't have to fight "fair". You don't have to meet knives with knives and guns with guns. You don't have to stand in a line and shoot at each other.
People mistake what actual war actually means. You're allowed to trick your opponent. You're allowed to do low down dirty shit that ends with your enemy bleeding out wondering what happened. The things you can't do, you actually have to punish people for later (Saddam stayed in power for a decade and a half after gassing his own people; no one in Israel has been prosecuted over their use of white phosphorus). You actually have to decide that they're too heinous to have happen (usually after they've been used before).
That's why you avoid this shit.
>>13990660
i enjoyed it, refreshing to see a pilot who has no chill and doesn't give a fuck
>>13991380
Which is itself technically a war crime, but, see >>13991456
>>13991335
i laughed
>>13991437
>>/pol/
>>13991573
pol boogeyman lmao xD
>>13991456
And that's exactly what Gjallerhorn did. They came up with all this tech, including the A-V, and then once the world was pacified they promptly banned half of it as inhumane. They actively worked to make people revile it, in part so it would never be used against them. And if it was, they could then use that as justification to throw everything and the kitchen sink at whoever dared to do so.
>>13991419
You're just being obtuse now.
>>13990210
THOSE TRUMP HANDS
>>13990926
you are new here and retarded
>>13990663
He hasn't killed a single kid yet.
>>13989878
Fuck that, how does he shit?
>>13991898
On Gundam of course.
>>13991116
actually, Mika is pretty humble, i think he and Yaan would end up fighting....
who do you think would win?
>hoping for another grey Mika-named character kill.
>>13991146
>can't into reading comprehension
>can't into sarcasm
>>13990193
>Nop he kind of wanted her to die horrible, he is just a hypocrite and good with words
he's trying to get gaelio and carta killed for some reason
I don't understand how ein factors into all of this
>>13991147
dude, that would actually be a pretty awesome table
>Yazan being his own loud self
>Ali coming up with all the dirty comebacks
>Violation is beautiful
>War is beautiful
>Children: BTFO
sorry, but Mika is then outta the league, and has to leave to go sit w Orga.
Ali >>>Yazan>>>>>Setsuna>Mika>>>>Heero
>>13991719
look at all the shit America came up with and banned...like Nukes, and Chemical Weapons, and Anthrax...
hell, we use drones.
>>13990462
that was fucking great.
You would think these motherfuckers would have learned that space rats don't care about honor, but no we're gonna have bullshit speech about a duel and shit and GET OUT OF OUR SUITS!
They were just asking for it.
>>13990531
when the HG or the 1/100 comes out. someone needs to do a Brave-Face mod to the kit.
>>13991898
Maybe he has some kind of tube stuck in his ass and taped for safe measure so he won't shit all over his cockpit? If his whole bottom part from waist down was torn off then he probably has some machinery attached to take care of his potty.
>>13992052
There's a difference between "we built a better tank" and "we made shit so nasty everybody agreed that we should back off". Nobody is going to ban drones in warfare.
>>13992639
Fucker is basically Robocop at this point.
>>13991898
He obviously has a cockpit toilet like Klim Nick.
When the cockpit gets opened.
I can't wait for the next few episodes. I really want 99% of the cast dead.
>>13990462
Worst than Io.
>>13990292
This seems strangely familiar... Looks like /m/ has it's own dreadnought now. I hereby call it ,,Ein Pattern''.
>>13990399
>>13990407
>>13990418
>>13990433
>>13990929
My friend. You need to watch Gargantia.
>>13992052
We tend to ban things that affect people indiscriminately or that cause unnecessary damage. So, no chemical or biological shit or nukes because it can catch civilians/is too nasty for medics to come in and get the wounded. No lasers because they blind people. No mines because the war ends and people are still getting their limbs blown off.
It's not so much about the effectiveness of the weapon on soldiers.
>>13992838
Gargantia was shit though.
Fuck your Chamber cult.
>>13992929
>Gargantia was shit though.
Still better than IBO tho
>>13992955
That's not even an achievement. That's a given.
>>13989875
He...became gundam?
That was a good episode, but
>ep 7, raiding Teiwaz ship, mobile suit fighting
>Orga - "Wait Mika let's talk"
>ep 17, fighting Kimaris, big army arrives
>Kudelia - "Wait listen to me"
>ep 23, about to kill Carta, new Kimaris
>Orga - "Wait Mika let's talk"
It's like blueballs.
>>13993800
No, he became Graze.
>>13991898
if he's being fed by iv then he only needs to pee
>>13990540
BURNING FEINBIRD
>>13990462
Mika is the greatestBut who leaked Tekkadans route?Eugene? Aniki? The candy man?
>>13995624
Chocochar. Even Iznario say to Carta about Chocochar tracking down the Tekkadan
>>13995624
Chocolate Lolicon is both fucking over the Tekkadan and the Gjallarhorn like a true Char clone.
>>13990540
>>13995593
> Carrying murderous thoughts on black wings and glowing the red light for misery!
> The Devil Express, Black Might GEin, arriving unannounced!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEUON5yAQJk
>>13995624
ChocoChar did it. Even Orga figured it out in the very same episode.
>>13995733
>only lasted one episode
Oh lord, Graze Ein is the second coming of Black Might Gaine, isn't it? All that would be missing is Inoue writing the episode for IBO.
>>13995593
GYALLARHORN FIGHTA DEINDOH
>>13989875
I wish he'd actually kill Mikazuki, he had enough shit and needs at least some win
Best Graze
>>13989875
Could be worse. He could be a girl-mech named Ein-Laties.
>>13995953
Is the schawlbe graze for space type purpose? Do it have to swap it's hip binder for earth use?
I fucking love this shit.
>>13997351
Well, one is scrap metal and the other was discarded in favor of Flag-Geese (which still manages to collect dust anyway), so we'll never know.
>>13992036
Head's I win, Tails you lose
Either Tekkadan is destroyed, solidifying Gjallarhorn power with Gaelio or Carta becoming heros of notable birth he's been manipulate like puppets.
OR
Tekkadan succeeds, reforming Gjallarhorn though diplomatic methods.
>>13997357
Well, of course Gjallarhorn placed the capital of Arbrau in Canada. Gjallarhorn is a creation of the Montreal-based Illuminati.
>>13997753
>separatist french-speaking quebecfags ever allowing non-quebeckis to be important
such a thing is impossible
Does anyone know what this Mobile Suit is? I've been looking for anything about it online for hours now and I haven't found anything
>>13997867
it's fanart, looks like elements of the GOOhN's upper body and Z'Gok's lower body were combined into an "original" design
Oh okay, thanks; that's the sort of impression I got, but I hadn't realized it was fanart
>>13989875
Is it wrong, I want half of Tekkadan to die?
>>13997909
Next ep friend. They'll be in tanks without wiskers and then GrazeEIN will show up. Fuck them AND a city
Hell I bet chocolate will disassociate Ein entirely somehow making it even more of an excuse for crackdowns
Or something
>>13990487
But she got saved by Best Gundam. She's alive bro.
>>13998075
Her eyes stopped reflecting light, man. She was the most visually interesting girl and she's gone.
Another precious tomboy erased from this universe.
>>13998140
It does seem pretty damning.
But who knows, maybe they'll have GaliGali go off the deep-end and put her in a robot too.
I can't wait for Ein to kill some kids. The bloodbath and lust for revenge is going to be great.
>>13990205
>I'm hungry
>I wonder what Atra is making for lunch
>This robot man keeps yelling at me
>I don't know who Crank is
>I wish I was back on the ship talking to Orga about killing
>Ein shows up
>Makes a speech about Crank sempai and his intention to get revenge on Mika for kicking Carta's shit in mid-speech
>Mika kicks his shit in mid-speech
>Merribit sobs into her hands for their lost innocence
>Kuderia explains politics to the world leaders for the rest of the episode
>Ein is never mentioned again
Why is this show such a monotonous fucking borefest? Literally nothing matters in this series
>>13991419
The problem is the show ostensibly wants you to start questioning the actions of the protagonists, but it still glorifies their actions. Even when the old man outright states that they all just want violence the show then goes out of it's way to show that Biscuit actually later chose the path of least resistance, deciding that returning with everyone was preferable to being an actual voice of reason. Further, Biscuit dying is intended to mark a turning point in Tekkadan's behavior, but this isn't any payoff since prior to this we've seen Biscuit to be a very useless foil to orga, usually acquiescing with an expression of "not again!" rather than actually modifying plans prior to his death. Heck, merribit and aniki steal this role a lot of the time, so their change in direction feels forced.
Then we have the formal problem of what the fight with Carta are trying to invoke. What Mika did this episode is not much different from what not!guts did when Carta landed on the island and started giving a speech. That was played for laughs. This time even the girl agrees it makes more sense not to duel and to just overwhelm them and everyone is overall being pretty jovial about it, but then Mika is doing what he normally does and suddenly the girl thinks it's grotesque and Merribit starts asking people to please think of the children. At the same time Mika is being a cool badass again, but this time we're supposed to feel bad that he's doing what he normally does which the show has glorified before. It's inconsistent. It tries to be complex but when you look at it from formal and structural standpoints, it's mess.
>>13998075
Nop official site confirmed her dead, if Gali does not suspect this was all McGillis doing, he must be pissed at Tekkadan for what happen to Ein and Carta, his thing is now more than just muh honor
>>13999454
>Hitler is still acknowledged
I guess the Brewers don't even matter at this point.
>>13999454
>>13989905
>>13989909
I AM
MOBILE SUIT
>>13999539
They never did. Why would that suddenly change?
>>13999539
Their entire purpose was to give Gusion to Tekkadan, the MS AV system they installed in the Graze and the ship they used as bait, they were a convenient plot devise
Why did IBO have to be like this? I just wanted a slightly comfy Gundam story about PMC Child soldier Bros with questionable mental health going on adventures and slowly becoming well adjusted.
IBO should've been this
>Eps 1-4 stay the same
>get Kude to earth by ep 8
>spend the rest of the series taking odd jobs and being episodic world/character building while McGills slowly shifts the political world into chaos with his background plans
>Tekkadan manages to stay out of it until they take a sketchy job that they were given little info on
>the employer was McGills and he gets some of them killed including Orga
>Mika has learned to think for himself by now and takes charge of Tekkadan to get revenge Big Boss style
>Tekkadan aquires WMDs and becomes a major threat to Gjallarhorn
