23ep. "The Final Lie" preview pics
This is the episode were Carta die
Daily prayer for Gali-Gali-nii staying alive.
>>13984089
Why did Chocoman kick Garma's dog?
>>13984089
Merribit and Atra looking cute in their Canada gear.
moony's gonna put the clamps on em!
>>13984089
first half seems to be flashbacks + exposition, second half seems to be tidbits of battle interlaced with talking head scenes
great stuff
>flashbacks
gg carta
Now with "hilarious" commentary.
>>13984138
Plsno
>1/3 flashback and exposition
>1/3 people standing still preparing to fight
>1/3 people watching the fight looking concerned and questioning stuff in general
cool
Show will end with Fareed winning and screwing everyone over.
Sequel postponed indefinitely.
It's bound to happen.
>>13984138
NOOOOOOOOOOO. Mai Waifu.
>>13984138
yay.
>>13984263
I am 100% ok with that.So satisfying.
>>13984235
>You say that so much it's lost all meaning
Fucking lost it
>>13984089
Are they trying to bait us into thinking something will happen between these two still just like they do every week the same way with norba and yamagi which still has gone no where
>>13984235
Captcha:TRADE King
![large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b2bafA4.jpg "large[1].jpg")
>>13984089
>snow
Ah, I missed it, glad to see it in a gundam show.
Also, here, have some Olga.
>>13984235
So if Char is Dio, who is Gali? The dog?
>>13985574
That's a pretty bad gender swap, 4/10 try harder.
>>13984089
Merribet looks like a real American blonde in the pic.
>>13985574
you stop that.
>>13984945
I sure hope she gets some doujinshi.
So far it's been all Fumitan and Kudelia.
We need at least one where she actually rides the Orga-coaster.
![orig[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zRgyskY.jpg "orig[1].jpg")
>>13985753
>>13985739
Don't be shy, I know you like it.
Who would you like to handle the inevitable 2nd season?
>>13984138
Fumitan Dies, Carta dies, Damn it why does Gundam always kill off the best girls?
>>13985934
Triple threat of Kawamori, Tomino and Fukuda
>>13984144
>Galli
>not suffering Garma's fate
He's deader than Saazbaum, fa͏m
![2d40d64091efe85540829b61eeb09f24[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/axIKOmp.png "2d40d64091efe85540829b61eeb09f24[1].png")
>>13985934
Make gaylayhorn main characters.
>>13985959even atra has bigger tiddies than heri miss fumitan
![Gundam-Orphans-19-6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EbWr0ME.jpg "Gundam-Orphans-19-6[1].jpg")
>>13985964
She's pretty stacked, actually.
>>13985972
>that
>stacked
why would mcgillis want anyone thats not even as stacked as he is
>>13985957
So what you're saying is he's not dead yet :^)
>>13985972
It's like they're tryna compete with Wing for the "Character with dumbest eyebrows of all time" award
>>13984263
please let this happen
>>13984138
I hope she does. Such a horrible and obnoxious character. She's a character who was clearly written by someone who's only experience of human character is watching anime.
>>13984144
Just when I thought Saline couldn't get worse he killed the best thing about that shitty show.
new preview picture
>>13986409
It's official, they're intentionally making her cute.
>>why would mcgillis want anyone thats not even as stacked as he is
Not everyone likes big breasts you know.
>>13986409
>>13986416
Gali-Gali is stacked; his marriage to the little girl might be an investment in her future cleavage.
>>13986247
>She's a character who was clearly written by someone who's only experience of human character is watching anime
Sounds like Okada alright.
>>13986409
>>13986442
She's adorable in both flavors, McGillis is a fool for not tapping that.
>>13986473
He is a Char at the end of the day.
>>13984089
>23ep. "The Final Lie"
>final lie
so who's doing the lying? first thought is everything McGillis said last episode but its super obvious he's the lair. IBO wouldn't be this predictable would it? I guess we'll know in the first minute of ep 23 huh. kinda like biscuit's super obvious death flag at the beginning of ep 22.
>>13986706
The episode is gonna be so bad that even the last fan will stop lying to himself
>>13986706
>IBO wouldn't be this predictable would it?
Unfortunately, yes.
>>13985934
I wouldn't like it but if you don't see the second season obviously taking place after a timeskip after it you're blind.
Why introduce Almiria if she isn't going to get older and find out that her beloved husband Fareed actually caused her brother Gaelio's incredibly inevitable death?
Why set up Fareed as some schemer who's going to take over Gjallarhorn and improve it? He's obviously of bad character so they're going to go with the old "we defeated the bad guys with the help of X, but it turned out X is actually badder than the previous ones so now we have to take responsibility for our mistake and take him down!" trope?
The question is just how long will the time-skip be? I'm saying 2 years at the least, 5 years at the most.
>>13986706
>IBO wouldn't be this predictable would it?
You mean unlike everything else it did so far?
>>13986765
>Iron-blooded Waltz
>Almiria's Army
>Muh GjallarOz
>Muh kuhnigget culture
It's going to happen.
Interesting to see how negative this thread is compared to the one on /a/.
>>13986795
It's because /a/ is satisfied with waifu porn, but /m/ needs good mecha porn to like a show.
>>13986811
But the waifus in IBO are pure trash.
it's just that /a/ is more civil, the threads there are still talking shit about the show but in a less shitposting way.
>>13986795
Because we only have 2 - 3 posts MAX each thread about
>uguu i love carta muh waifu!!
>atra best girl!
>who /gali gali/ here?
>RIP fumitan you were best grill :((((
>I like this show fuck tha haterz xd'
While in the /a/ thread, HALF the thread is just preview pic spam, the a chunk is spent talking about seiyuu shit, some talking about the gunpla and new designs - of which we already had threads about - and the rest is just homoshit and fanart spam.
>>13984263
He must be aware about his son project. The Plot twist of episode.
>>13985934
Okada still, but I want her to scriptwrite the overwhelming majority of the episodes instead of the 5 she wrote for the season.
>>13985934
Atsuhiro Tomioka, since Brave Beats' sudden cancellation means that he doesn't have anything better to do right now.
If not him, I'll settle for Inoue as a joke wish. Even he would do better than whoever's writing the episodes that Okada isn't doing.
>https://twitter.com/Gundam_Fan_Club/status/708608547156701184
is this bad news or good news?
>>13987146
They changed the timeslot
>>13987155
Yeah they are airing the last episode half an hour later than usual
>>13986765
gonna be laffin all day when all these retards never get S2.
Loli is just a loli. Shitty char is just a shitty char. You think that after 26 episodes of magically writing themselves out of plot holes they don't do the same for the finale? Kudelia will give the best speech ever and then they'll fight the meanies at Gjallerhorn and then everyone will have equal rights, the end.
>>13986765
Yeah, see, AUs almost never get direct televised sequels. I'm not sure what to say for Endless Waltz, but the other two that did were insanely and remarkably popular, respectively, though that is without taking into consideration any prior plans.
IBO is keeping its head above the water owing to the Gundam name at best. Its characters are almost universally one-note, its writing mediocre. Almiria could be removed from the show almost entirely and you'd lose next to nothing except for Gaelio being a dick and Fareed being rather creepily affectionate.
Fareed'll probably die in some stupid way, Kudelia will be sugoi and then Orphans Namida.
>>13987204
Too add to this anon, think of the profits. They could either leave IBO where it is or start planning for the next AU which is almost guaranteed to do better. Which do you think they'll choose?
>>13987230
To add*
Fuck this phone it corrects words that I write correctly. Bullshit.
>>13987204
>I'm not sure what to say for Endless Waltz,
Wing was popular enough back in the day that the studio wanted a full-fledged sequel series. The directors didn't want to do it, and Endless Waltz was made as a compromise to cash in on Wing's popularity.
http://www.gundam-w.jp/special/taidan.html
>>13987230
The trend for Gundam AUs since last 00 is for each to worse than the last, so they may stick with IBO out of fear it'll get worse, not better. Complicating things is that the gunpla, their main concern is doing well by all accounts - so they may wish to keep IBO purely for that.
>>13987259
>Complicating things is that the gunpla, their main concern is doing well by all accounts
That's not what I've been hearing. All I keep hearing out of Japan is how the kit sales dropped, and last month we saw pictured of IBO merch under noticeable discounts. These are already cheap kits and they had to drop the price to sell part of the line, not a good sign bro.
>>13987291
There's a thread up saying that the Graze Ritter (and by the looks of things, Barbatos...6th form?) is selling well and constantly under order. Which is a good sign. And may persuade Banrise to renew the show. Especially if they change the mech design to do, at least in their opinion, better.
>>13987259
Not really. Wings was popular, Turn A wasn't, SEED was popular, 00 was popular, AGE was a flop, BF was popular, Try wasn't great but did well enough, G-Reco exceeded expectations but I wouldn't consider it a huge success (not what they were aiming for but whatever), IBO has been selling at incredibly marked-down prices on models and character stands while BDs are barely beat G-Reco's (not counting half-priced promo-code Vol 1)
I'd take the chance
>>13986706
The only answer is McGillis. From this weekend on he'll not be putting on an act for everyone around him officially, he'll have gained an advantage somehow.
Most likely the security of Tekkedan making a mockery of Gjallarhorn's current generation on Earth as they storm into Edmonton.
>>13987308
Well since I was only saying there was a trend starting since 00, we can cut out those before it. Which means 00 was popular, AGE wasn't, Build Fighters wasn't (gunpla aside), Try wasn't, and G-Reco wasn't a big success. The only area Build Fighters succeeded in, gunpla, IBO is as well.
Been watching the first six episodes of this series for the first time in tandem.
Holy shit, this glorious mother fucker. He gets away with practically everything despite being directly responsible for everything that happened in the first quarter of the story.
>>13987321
I'm looking forward to the point where him and McMurdo get completely fucked over by Kudelia's ambition.
>>13987365
I'm looking forward to the point where Kudelia gets fucked over by Char's ambition.
>>13987259
>so they may stick with IBO out of fear it'll get worse, not better.
That doesn't make since since IBO isn't doing any better to begin with. If it gets another season its definitely getting a timeslot change which will cost more money and DVD/BD will only go down more.
>>13987308
>G-Reco exceeded expectations
>but I wouldn't consider it a huge success (not what they were aiming for but whatever)
So did it exceed their expectations or did they not? Which is it?
>>13987375
If you have a 2.0 in the ratings, decent gunpla sales and your last few series have all had declining ratings, then you might stick with it since your next one might have a 1.0 and shit gunpla sales.
>>13987380
Despite its good ratings sales and Gunpla sales its not considered a success because it didn't do as well as SEED.
>>13987383
>If you have a 2.0 in the ratings,
Uh.....IBO is lower than that.
>>13987392
I was talking about him saying it exceeded their expectations, then directly after that saying it was "not what they were aiming for but whatever". That implies it didn't meet their expectations.
Which is it?
>>13987383
深夜Gﾚｺ
*2.0 20話
地方BFT
*1.4 20話
全国鉄血
*1.2 20話
IBO has lower ratings than G-Reco, GBF and TRY. In fact the first half did worse than AGE. Now I highly doubt Gunpla is doing better than GBF because that was moved sales of other Gunpla as well as those in the GBF line.
>>13987383
Then they would do that with every AU that did decently until it fell below 1.5 in ratings and did shit gunpla sales. The execs know that people aren't going to hate IBO because it's only 26 episodes. If they slap on another 26 with the same shit universe (the back story was fine but the way it has developed has been pretty garbage) and same shit characters you know that ratings are going to drop and Grazepla is going to get old and fail.
>>13987403
I couldn't tell you. All sides show that G-Reco did well for a Gundam anime, Tomino anime and it was the top selling mecha TV anime of the year.
>>13987395
Probably, I was shooting in the dark.
>>13987408
Wait, are you posting the ratings for specific episodes as proof?
>>13987418
Episodes within the same time frame, like it matters since IBO has been averaging 1.0 to 1.4s since its second half started
I wish something happened in this anime.
How fucking hard is it to mess up an action anime by giving it with little to no action??????????????
>>13987417
I think what he's saying is it wasn't expected to do well, hence why they gave it a late-night timeslot and pushed Try. It exceeded their low expectations and became a decent-sized hit, but they didn't have the same kinds of merchandise other Gundams have in place to capitalize on it.
>>13987425
Uhh, Gundam has always been about politics and the characters. If you're watching for action you're watching the wrong series.Parodying that youtube comment
>>13987403
The gunpla don't sacrifice design for articulation and the designs aren't incredibly toyetic. Meanwhile you have Try airing at the same time, which was supposed to push gunpla more than anything. They made the show to boost the name of Gundam and hopefully bring people into the franchise without looking like huge shills so that they could go out and buy other gunpla. Otherwise they wouldn't have had a "real" entry into the franchise for quite a while. All I'm saying is that G-Reco did better than they expected it to because they didn't set it up to be their cash cow. However it also didn't BECOME a cash cow.
Does anyone know episode 19's rating? I seem to be missing it.
>>13987440
I see, well I guess that makes sense
>>13987422
12 was a 2.6, 13 was a 2.0. As was 14. And it's gotten lower ratings one week and then higher ratings the next at least 3 times during it's run (could only find ratings up to 18). It's a dull show, but that may be enough to save it in Sunrise eyes if it has good gunpla sales. Which I'm told it does. Putting up the ratings for specific episodes doesn't prove shit. Except that you want to post ratings I guess.
>>13987442
What youtube comment are you referring to?
Watching this board shit on IBO while defending G-Reco is pretty amusing.
>>13987459
You can't deny the high quality of animation IBO offers.
>>13987443
>they didn't set it up to be their cash cow. However it also didn't BECOME a cash cow.
And what's your point with this then?
>>13987459
Yeah, I'm surprised /m/ is actually reasonable and can criticise shitty shows for being shitty, and not just rely on meme spouting when a few trolls tried to force G-Reco as being shit
>>13987443
Yeah just checked. They usually give one or two years between AUs. Without G-Reco you would of had 3 years of straight gunpla shilling (and MSG-san) after AGE and hardly any OVAs releasing consistently. Having no story to get the kids interested in Gundam in the first place will hurt sales. Gotta get them hooked early.
>>13987459
That's the difference between /m/ and ANN, MAL, animesuki, /a/, we're not deluded.
>>13987459
>>13987466
G-Reco gets its share of flak too for its faults, but for all the bizarre pacing, at least things HAPPENED. There was usually at least one fight every episode. And as >>13987465 said, most of the animation was pretty well polished.
IBO has barely any robot action, and episodes have largely plodded along in lengthy, repetitive character drama and exposition scenes. What action it gets tends to be rough around the edges at best.
>>13987466
My point is that the franchise hasn't been met with increasing failure as time goes on. Recent shows haven't been leading into some death-spiral where it's safer to hold on to a piece of crap instead of moving on to their next project. So it's logical to not give IBO a second season.
>>13987466
>>13987465
>>13987479
>>13987490
If liking IBO is considered in touch I sure as fuck am happy that I'm a oldfag.
>>13987484
So basically, Gundam is successful enough as a franchise overall right now that it's safe enough for Banrise to just drop IBO. It's clearly not their flagship series right now, and they aren't staking anything with it (and it doesn't even look like they've put any effort into whatsoever), so it'd be smarter to drop it in favour of another show that might be more successful? That makes sense, thanks.
>>13987490
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DONT LIKE THIS IT'S 2016 COME ON
>>13987484
> *2.56% 2011 機動戦士ガンダムAGE (フリット編*3.22% アセム編*2.33% キオ編*2.25% 三世代編2.23%)
> *2.09% 2004 SDガンダムフォース
> *2.05% 2010 SDガンダム三国伝 BraveBattleWarriors
> *1.80% 2014 ガンダムGのレコンギスタ
> *1.64% 2013 ガンダムビルドファイターズ
> *1.42% 2014 ガンダムビルドファイターズトライ
You'll notice that the last few series are all at or below 2.0, and IBO will probably come in around that too. So yes, they're all suffering flagging ratings since 00. Gunpla sales are the important thing though, and we don't have those. For any series. They may save IBO alone for all we know.
>>13987371
>Kudelia
>losing at politics
no
>>13987508
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T LIKE G-RECO?! IT'S TOMINO! IT HAS TO BE GOOD!
>>13987481
Honestly even besides the fights (which often looked good because of amazing digital effects, not just animation) the characters had so much expression, realistic conversation (for anime), and had lifelike movement. Obviously I don't expect Tatsuyuki "high school romantic drama" Nagai or Mari Okada to be able to pull that off but the seeing difference between the two so vividly does remind me of why I respect Tomino.
>>13987521
Y'know, I really don't get why people bashing G-Reco attack Tomino so often.
>>13987516
All those shows aired on different timeslots and AGE came after both SDs and had higher ratings than those.
>>13987529
They're grasping.
The fact that IBO critique can touch on so many different aspects of the show and not just resort to yelling about TOMINOFAGS!!! and IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE like most G-Reco shitposting.
I'd be the first one to admit it has pacing issues, but if that makes it the worst Gundam series ever despite all it's numerous plus points then I can't really take anyone shitposting on it seriously.
>>13987490
>>13987459
Its the exact same shit with A/Z (S1) and TRY, outside of /m/ they're praised because they appeal to normies or people who don't care about the genre but are hated here because if their numerous flaws and blatant pandering to groups outside mecha.
>>13987536
You say that like Banrise will care. I don't even care frankly, they've no reason to since all the execs will see is ratings v gunpla sales and how much renewal will cost v projected earnings from one move or another. The last few shows have had shitty ratings and that's the important part. Everything else is just excuses.
>>13987525
>realistic conversation
People keep touting this as something positive, firstly as if realistic conversations were something that a) adds to the show and b) is good.
Most people aren't as witty or interesting conversationalists in real life. Well crafted dialogue is usually something unrealistic yet also pleasant.
Naturalistic dialogue has its place, but it's usually reserved to grounded, sober stories.
That is if you will even call Tomino's dialogue naturalistic, to which I would disagree completely.
Because even the Japanese say that the way he structures his sentences are is weird.
Just like with Tarantino or Joss Wheedon, you can kinda tell when he's been the one laying words into the characters mouths.
And I'd call their dialogues many things, but realistic isn't one of 'em.
>>13987551
>A/Z
>praised
Have you been to /a/ while it was airing? People were flinging shit at it since episode 6 or so.
>>13987571
It's much more realistic than giving history lessons every two or three episodes to your subordinates or companions.
>>13987529
They're saying anyone who likes G-Reco has to be a Tominococksucker. Liking it or in 90% of cases on this board not outright shitting on it signifies some sort of weird idolization of him and everything that he's done.
Because if you don't force "Tomonoisms" and make multiple threads every week shitting on it then obviously you must think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
>>13987568
You're the one making excuses. They're airing IBO Sunday evening, primetime when the whole family can watch together and it's ratings are shit. G-Reco and Build Fighters aired on weaker timeslots and the fact that IBO's numbers have fallen that low (especially considering G-Reco aired in the middle of the night Tuesday) says a lot about it's performance.
>>13987602
But Anon, in the year since Build Fighters Try and G-Reco finished almost EVERYONE in Japan has moved over to streaming their anime! T-They must b-be streaming it! People love IBO!
>>13987465
this is actually the shittiest animation i have ever seen
LMAO
try harder
>>13987602
Not really. I'm only pointing out that as far as a casual view sees they're failing. It doesn't matter why - they are. And if the gunpla sales are good then bad ratings won't matter and they may renew regardless. Pointing out reasons or justifications for low ratings is just making excuses.
>>13987619
>>13987516
AGE flopped, SDs don't count, GBF/Try aren't main line series, G-Reco and Try aired simultaneously and G-Reco was a half-length series airing late at night. Lots of factors in there. Not to mention all those barring AGE (dunno about SDs) did well with gunpla. It's stupid to start from 00 and act like that's the major decline because Gundam ratings go up and down with time. Would you have said that they should have continued G Gundam because profits kept going down starting with Victory? But then Wing did pretty good. How about Turn A? X was cancelled so there's no way starting a new series could be profitable than Turn A 2: Electric Bugaloo right? But SEED happened.
If they wait two years or so before starting the next series then it'll do fine. AGE is really the only recent Gundam that had sufficient time and fucked itself up but that had other issues. More likely is that Banrise will try one last time to do a quick production for a 26 episode series and see what happens before realizing that you do, in fact, need to give the production team time to do shit.
>>13987633
> Lots of factors in there
And you think the average exec will know or care?
>>13986795
Huh, just looked it over. Most of it is just fujoshi posting/shipping with the rare waifufag. And
>look at this twitter image
I guess that's one way to scavenge enjoyment out of this
>>13987618
The show IBO replaced had ratings over 3%, sometimes 4. Yugioh Arc V airs right after IBO and has noticeably larger ratings. And despite the lower overall ratings, the first Build Fighters averaged a better rating with kids.
Build Fighters, Try and G-Reco weren't handed off to multiple streaming sites, nor did they have a dub announced the month the show began.'t They weren't selling towels with Sei or Aida on them, but they are for Biscuit.
So yeah. They expect a hell of a lot more out of IBO than they have any other post-AGE show. The fact the sales are only a little better doesn't help the show.
>>13987619
Even G-Reco's non fighting scenes were top tier quality
>Them shadows
>That attention to lights
>>13987594
That's exposition.
And Tomino does it too.
In fact there are parts of G-Reco that are rank with it.
He also likes to have people explain the things they or others are doing while they are doing them, which also isn't realistic.
These sorts of things should be weaved into the narrative in clever ways and that's something Japanese writers seem to have a problem with in general. They're far off from a George Miller or Nicolas Winding Refn, who allow stories to be told through actions primarily.
I remember Kill la Kill parodied that and played it straight simultaneously by having an entire episode take place in a makeshift classroom to finally explain the plot to Ryuko.
Which is also an old nugget: Starting your story in a classroom where a teacher explains some things about the story or setting to the students which they should know just by living there.
And what does Tomino do in the very first episode?
I rest my case.
>>13987640
If they're good at their job, yeah.
>>13987657
They're usually not though. Hence: average.
>>13987625
>dude I work at Bandai, trust me we don't look at this shit in depth. We spend most of the gunpla money on hookers and blow 24/7 and every time a show is about to end we have the intern bring in a couple bar graphs and charts for us to take a casual look at. If the charts aren't high enough we tell them to keep doing the same thing. Shit is so cash, also stop sending us letters of what to make the next MG, fuck off
I trust your uneducated judgement and lack of knowledge about business, anon.
>>13987649
That and all the little background things that just made it feel more like a world. Like people making silent reactions to something that just entered the room off-camera, right before it comes on. Or the Torque pack clipping into the hangar door frame.
>>13987650
>>13987650
>In fact there are parts of G-Reco that are rank with it.
>He also likes to have people explain the things they or others are doing while they are doing them, which also isn't realistic.
What's your point
>And what does Tomino do in the very first episode?
>I rest my case.
You didn't argue your case convincingly at all. I just see straw grasping by knocking on Tomino thinking it's a valid argument. It's bad when Tomino creates some basic background for his series in the very first episode in a believable setting? But it's fine when IBO does it several times? It's fine with McGillis has to explain Gjallarhorn's history to Ein or someone else numerous times?
>>13987665
Good for you I guess. Not that I'm making predictions, or even educated guesses: only pointing out why they might renew IBO. Also, no one else has aby better info so we're all on an even keel here. Saying they will cause X is really no better than saying they won't cause Y.
>>13987371
i'm looking forward to the point where Char gets fucked over by Nobunaga's Ambition
>>13987650
First anon here.
It's also a children's show, which Tomino made very clear. But again, for anime it's enjoyable and good. I'm comparing it to seasonal anime. I don't know what it is about his dialogue - maybe realistic isn't the word - but it flows better and gives characters personality in a way that other shows often do not. I feel that the standard anime dialogue is more stilted and set up for "words!" "reply!" or "set up" "punch line!" than his work is. Even if he structures sentences weird, I can take Tominoisms any day.
Of course this is my opinion.
>>13987673
He's arguing that the dialogue isn't realistic compared to real life (it isn't) and that it isn't a good way to write all your dialogue anyway. IBO has nothing to do with it.
ITT: Fuck you for enjoying IBO
>>13987780
>>13987729
That's fine, I guess.
I just don't see what the fuzz is about with Tomino's dialogue.
It feels very much like: "Can't praise his writing without mentioning his dialogue!"
And it never struck me as anything artful or great.
Just quirky.
I guess you could say that because he comes from a different era of animation, his dialog doesn't bow to modern conventions.
But that doesn't mean it's free from cliche.
Quite the opposite in fact.
I feel like good dialogue isn't something I usually expect in anime. And I'm not even sure that I can tell when it's a work that I can only judge via translation.
>>13987840
What did self inserted Tomino mean when he said
"It only takes 15 minutes"
>>13987780
/m/ is one of the single most STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE! boards on 4chan.
>>13987694
Except logic and history are working against you and you're basing it on "dude execs don't care about how to optimize their business to make the most money, they'll just do X because they don't care". It is their job to make sure that the next thing that they air for 6-12 months doesn't backfire on them and lose them money. If they didn't take it seriously then Bandai would be in serious trouble.
Really, saying that G-Reco and Try were both bad in ratings isn't even that fair. They aired at the same time and pretty much make up a 52 episode standard series. Together they're right up at normal Gundam ratings and probably didn't do half bad with Gunpla either.
But anyway what they did makes sense from a business perspective. AGE flopped so they decided it was time for a break. Instead of bringing back another AU, they decided to have fun with the Beginning G concept and go for a half-length lighthearted entry that reminds everyone why they love the franchise. Since that was a success, they want to capitalize on it so they push for Try to get done ASAP. But it would look bad to become 100% gunpla oriented (and plenty of people don't buy gunpla) so they decide, under the spirit of the 35th anniversary, to do both at once. One for more money, one to offset their Jew karma. Both combined would equal an average AU year. Then they said "you know what, 26 episodes works pretty well, I guess that's why everyone else has been doing it for so long" and pull IBO's idea out of development hell (iirc) to work with. They give it to Nagai and Okada and all the mecha designers and all the different script writers and wish them good luck. It didn't go very well so they plan to do the same as they've always done and either fart out a new series next year or wait a while to produce a full entry which they will expect near-00 levels of sales and ratings from.
>>13987863
> It's their job to make sure that the next thing they air for 6-12 months doesn't backfire on them and lose them money
A job they (execs as whole, not just Gundam ones) frequently screw up and which most people feel they could do better. Also a job they aren't judging purely on ratings (the only numbers we have) or on time slots.
>>13987840
I think that's exactly it. Maybe it's not entirely the dialogue, but how characters react to each others' speaking. I don't know exactly what it is. Maybe you're right and I'm just so used to 80s shit that I can't see that his dialogue and modern dialogue are two sides of a shitty coin. But I won't stop liking it.
And I wasn't praising his writing. Yes, I think that his good works are well-written but his bad works are pretty terrible. Writing has never been his best suit but I don't think it's a huge deal when most of the rest of the things about his work are so good. For example, Victory is my favorite Gundam but it is clear to see that he was trying to ruin the franchise at some points. Like someone said earlier, he doesn't have to be the perfect director all around 10/10 for me to like him, but I really think that if his faults in his Gundam series make you hate him thenstick to A/Z
McGillis is this show's true hero, isn't he? He's playing all sides and no one even begins to suspect him.
>>13987880
But they do take that into account. Not to the level you're implying though because Bandai's sales have actually been going up since AGE. There is no reason to run this for two seasons. You're seriously arguing that because execs often don't do their job "as well as they could" that they're going to commit suicide and force another 26 episodes out of a shitty production team (protip: they notice the QUALITY) using a setting that has its conflicts nearly resolved all just so they can hope that this second season will maintain the exact same average profitability despite ratings and sales dropping significantly as the show has gone on? Or they could do the same thing they did before and end up with a show that performs as well as the last? Which sounds more logical?
>>13988007
That depends on whether or not he tricks Carta and sends her to her death against Tekkedan. No hero could ever do that.
>>13988007
Pretty much. This week we will see in a flash back he is a tragic orphan who lived a hard life to cement his place as a good guy.
>>13986795
That's because /a/ always has shit taste.
>>13988025
>second season happens against all odds
>"I have never betrayed anyone in my life."
>>13988033
That or it will show him as a bitter asshole that use and betray people that genuinely care for him simply because they had a better childhood
>>13988048
>>13988033
Well, he's a bastard/product of an affair, isn't he? That would probably cause him some problems as far as aristocratic standing goes.
>>13988013
I'm seriously arguing that if the gunpla sales or other numbers we don't have, or if the money from running it versus a chance is thought to be good they'd keep running it yes. Or that they may continue to run it because of low ratings since ratings for all their shows suck. And no, adding Try and G-Reco isn't a reasonable way to make good ratings.
>>13987459
You clearly weren't here when it was airingnewfag
This is nothing
>>13988048
If only. If the show goes in that direction, I will commend the writing at least on that front for showing a matter of perspective it has not had for it's entire run thus far.
Are we ever going to see the fucking grimgerde do anything??
>>13988104
Season two. Maybe.
>>13988104
Currently unless it makes a surprise appearance in the last episode it seems its gone for good, only Psycho Graze left
>>13988067
So you're arguing that because we don't know everything about this show that there is a chance Bandai will take a series that has falling ratings and stretch it twice its length under a production team that puts out weak fights and animation each week? And that these mysterious numbers are so good Bandai can't hope to match them with their next entry? Again, gunpla sales rely on the show. Low ratings don't mean much if the gunpla sells but if nobody watches then you can't sell shit. Not to mention that even if the MS appears, it still has to look good in action, something IBO has failed at. Ratings show that people are getting fed up with the anime, a second season would start its ratings and sales at whatever IBO ends at, which is looking to be close to 1%. IBO has been getting marked down both in Japan and online though so I really don't know if the gunpla are doing well either.
>>13988122
Is it just me or does the Psycho Graze's V-fin look more gundam than any other gundam in the show so far?
>>13988133
>So you're arguing that because we don't know everything about this show that there is a chance Bandai will take a series that has falling ratings and stretch it twice its length under a production team that puts out weak fights and animation each week?
They put out Try, ultrafast even, and Build Fighters had worse ratings. And disc sales. So, yes.
>>13988148
Again, Build Fighters was a different situation. How many times does this need to be explained? They weren't paying to get BF on prime time Sunday evening, one of the best timeslots all week. They weren't making shit like bathtowels for the Build Fighters. They didn't stream it internationally over all the major sources, just their youtube channel.
IBO has far fucking great expectations put on it. The fact it's ratings for the latest episodes are sub-Try says a goddamn lot. Not to mention, Bandai isn't bragging over twitter about kit sales like BF, and Build Fighters commanded a greater share of the kid demographic than IBO does.
>>13988190
You can explain it all you like. It doesn't actually matter. To me, or likely to any execs. Especially when you're only assuming lower kit sales because of Twitter and ignoring your own point rear kit sales needing anime advertising when Build Fighters had lower ratings than IBO all told, even counting the kid demo. That one demo being higher doesn't magically make the rest irrelevant.
You're also failing to account for the simple possibility they could change time slots (like R2), since they haven't paid past a few weeks time for the current one. Or sir two shows at one again. Or any other possibility.
>>13988144
Watch it's either going to be the one Graze they tried to engineer from the Gundam frame or the first Gundam frame suit ever made.
>>13988261
Didn't that Insider guy say that the reason Sunrise will do a season two, is because of IBO's performance on streaming?
So maybe they'll take a shitty timeslot, knowing it's meeting expectations elsewhere.
>>13988261
>dude execs literally do not know what they are doing lmao, and they're going to repeat what they did with BF even though they also saw a drop in ratings from the original at the same time as G-Reco, a show that aired in a worse time slot
>execs literally do not pay attention to time slots even though they pay for them
Solid logic right there anon.
I'm assuming higher kit sales because we didn't see G-Reco kits ending up marked down everywhere. IBO has a clear demographic of casuals who don't build gunpla, similar to SEED. BF did well in its target demographic, so it met expectations. I'm just saying S2 won't happen and you're retarded for not being able to see that.
>>13988308
We also got that soft confirmation from Daisuki the other day as well.
>>13988261
Dude, they put R2 on a better timeslot since Geass was successful and they wanted to make it even bigger. IBO is already on the best timeslot they got and anything less makes the show look bad. Like it couldn't perform. It wouldn't be like R2. |t would be like Gundam X, the Gundam they cancelled a cour early.
>>13988328
>Daisuki
Now how about an official source next time.
>>13988347
Sunrise formed Daisuki.
>>13988538
>Daisuki is a Japanese website focused on streaming anime content, which was founded in 2013 by Asatsu-DK and six anime studios, Toei Animation, Aniplex, Sunrise, TMS Entertainment, Nihon Ad Systems, and Dentsu.
I can't wait to see /m/'s anal devastation when IBO S2 premiers.
>>13988563
Exactly.
>>13988568
I used to be in denial but S2 seems all but inevitable now. That or it just gets a really shitty ending with a epilogue of sliding shots and a character talking about how everything magically got better thanks to Kudelia Amazing Bernstein
>>13988570
"Congratulations Kudelia!"
>>13988568
I just hope Nagai brings his A-game and Okada is allowed to do the writing.
Honestly the only way to salvage this show is if Kudelia dies which I'm praying for.
>>13988568
>/m/'s anal devastation
and I will laugh at them for being emotionally invested to be butthurt in the first place, along with whatever silly design or laughable episodes they pump out.
>>13988568
>>13988659
I don't think people are emotionally invested enough for any remarkable meltdown. Most people I've seen drop this did it due to it just being too boring to care about. The viewership would just drop more for a second season.
>>13988570
Retards. FOUR EPISODES LEFT and they're literally at the doorstep of the final boss. What could possibly take four episodes to wrap up when you have the magic of IBO's writing team?
>everyone's death scenes packing in their life story in under 30 seconds
>exposition dumps from birdy mask/choco man
>oh btw turbines/McMurdo/teiwaz took care of that, don't worry
>oh btw dort workers have equal rights, thx
>oh btw carta escaped from Mika, don't worry about how
With the power of Tell, Don't Show™ you can wrap up anything you need to. All Kudelia needs is to give a speech and the world's problems can start getting solved. There are a few ways to do this.
If there is no twist:
Carta Duel => Gali/Eins first battle + install old man into govt => Kudelia's speech + voting + Gali/Eins second attack => "everything will be resolved in the near future" exposition + final battle with either Eins or Char as things get wrapped up
If there is a twist (almost certainly):
Carta Duel => Gali/Eins first battle (or Gjaller battle while the two get surgery) + deliver old man => Kudelia speech + Gali/Eins battle + betrayal + voting => final battle with Char or Char/Tekka taking down corrupt Gjallerhorn + Char failing to backstab Tekka + named character deaths + "everything will be resolved in the near future" speech
>>13987666
>That and all the little background things
I don't really like G-reco,but damn It made me love how it did this,the show was always moving,even in the background you would see little things that helped immerse and build up its world.
>>13988683
I honestly hope they bullshit the ending. I cant endure much more of this shitshow
>>13988693
Well you can ignored it an that’s it, the less attention people give to it the more dead it will be, but in the end you enjoy this
PM me the stream link pls
>>13989130
Sent ;)
>>13988667
>I don't think people are emotionally invested enough for any remarkable meltdown.
Have you read this thread? Or any other IBO threads? So much of /m/ hates the possibility of a second season so much that the fallout of it's inevitable premier is going to cause an autism apocalypse.
>>13989242
>inevitable
There's that word again. The story is closing itself into a nice little box with a cute bow on top and people still think Bandai can make a season 2 out of it. There are 0 cliffhangers that they can have for the second season unless the finale goes full A/Z or timeskip and pull a good ol' Zeta clone, both of which would kill sales because they're retarded.
>>13989261
See what I mean? They're so fervently against the idea they waste no time jumping all over even an offhand mention of it.
>>13987365
I'm looking forward to the point where Kudelia gets fucked in the pussy by Nobliss's fat oldman dick
>>13989271
I'm just tired of the shitposting and baitingexample: your postthat's been going on for a while. You wouldn't have used the word if you weren't shitposting anyway.
>>13989322
See? Gonna be an autism apocalypse.
>>13989373
You're just proving my point by shitposting further, I don't know why you'd bother to reply.
>>13989380
NO I'M SHITPOSTICUS!
There's barely any suitable material for a sequel as is.
Even if they do make one, it's tantamount to a fool's errand.
>>13989422
Robo Ein?
>>13989422
Kek he became a Graze
>>13989422
>They actually call his unit the Graze Ein
Fuck me, really?
>>13989380
And you're proving his point by shitposting just as much.
>>13989422
If I woke up from a coma to find myself fused into a mobile suit, I would freak out and maybe kill myself.
>>13989422
Did he lose everything from the waist down?
>>13989422
>No Ein, you are the Graze
>>13989439
Yes. He doesn't need anything from the waist down.
They said he is not going to get out from the MS.
>>13987551
>blatant pandering to groups outside mecha.
Golly, I had no idea martian slaves and kuntala were real life groups of oppressed minorities.
Oh who am I kidding? Even if your point was valid, /m/ would still bitch because everybody here is secretly a /tg/ and/or /pol/ faggot that hates giant robots not piloted by rich white men.
>>13989422
NO DICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Eins going to be fucking pissed
>>13989422
>>13989465
NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>13989439
I forgot to say this, but that shot of Ein's new Graze moving it's eye in the preview for episode 23 gave me some kinda human-like vibe. Like, I saw it as an eyeball or something, and it gave me this vibe of Ein being fused to the Graze, and he basically is the Graze, so he moved its eye like it was his own eye.
Maybe it's actually gonna happen
>>13989465
Want a robot chick?
>>13989465
Oh hey, the thing that everyone guessed would happen happened.
>>13989422
Its a shame Ein will never be able to enjoy the good things in life ever again.
>>13989465
Why
>>13989483
HELLO EIN KEK
>>13989483
I do like that, actually.
Something very evocative of Armored Core about its head.
He is going to turn everybody into robot cores.
>>13989465
My heart hurts...
>>13987649
This episode looked particularly good, Araki is a shit director but he seems to be somewhat competent with compositing.
Ein (image)
>>13989422
So Gaelio was talking about chopping Ein's dick off when he said Ein wouldn't be a man anymore?
>>13989503
KEK
>>13989451
Holy shit that's brutal.
Unit 2
>>13989503
>Hold on, let me stand here motionlessly so you can dispatch me more easily.
>>13989511
Graze Zwei
>>13989509
Well he has nothing to lose anyways
>>13989422
>>13989473
Gaelio's chances to score have diminished considerably.
>>13989512
The person was not in the suit.
>>13989486
>#GrazeLivesMatter
>>13989517
Why? What is the point of having a robot out in the open?
Ein becomes an upgrade parts in Gundam Breaker 3
It's crying
>>13989521
They all parked in front of the trains and got out of their suits to talk to Tekkadan. Mika said fuck that and brutally killed the two grunts before attacking Carta.
Trooper here
Has anyone translated Okada's comments from yaraon article? She said something about Ein.
>>13989528
>to talk to Tekkadan
>>13986247
You sound like such a fag.
>>13989285
How do you not throw up with such a fecal taste in your mouth constantly?
>>13989529
Sexy. Reminds me of the G-Lucifer.
>>13989534
are you seriously defending koodiarrhea? shes a shit character and her only appeal is sex.
>>13989545
but shes amazing!
>>13989548
You mean shit.
>>13989545
you just dont understand her character
she's a deconstruction of the typical anime peace princess
>>13989545
Have a Snickers. You're not you when you're hungry!
>>13989551
>she's a deconstruction of the typical anime peace princess
STOP!
>>13989495
>You get an Alaya-Vijnana system! And you get an Alaya-Vijnana system! And you!
>>13989528
ein was right from the start
