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People have forgotten about this. It was just another forgettable pop-corn flick.
Just as an example: The death of Han Solo had zero cultural impact. No one talks about it, or parodies it. Imagine if he had died during Return of the Jedi as originally planned. That scene would be deeply remembered and talked about for decades.
>>13976948
>No one talks about it, or parodies it.
As the old saying goes: 'Now bitch, you know that's a lie'
The web ran through quite a bit with that and making fun of Kylo Ren
>>13976948
>Imagine if he had died during Return of the Jedi as originally planned. That scene would be deeply remembered and talked about for decades
Debatable. For one, we never really get circumstances of his death. Simply that Ford wanted it. This isn't like the originally planned death of Lando, where we know they went as far as actually writing it and were all set to do it.
For all we know, people would have looked back on it as a clumsy move done for shock value. It's all in the execution.
I haven't even seen this yet.
>>13976948
>dat blue and orange
the films were made at different times, Star Wars was pretty revolutionary and defined the popcorn flick genre, these days the industry is bloated with sci fi and superheroes out the ass, TFA was a solid movie that continued what its predecessors started but hardly stood out compared to something like Avatar or District 9.
>people are still talking about it and speculating what the next movie is gonna be about
Sorry you didn't get a Episode 1 tier blunder you can bitch on /tv/ for years.
The only that people remembered about that movie is TR8TR.
And it was the only good part.
>>13976975
>Avatar
besides 3Dshit, that movie has had zero legacy. But that's not its fault, it's just harder these days to permeate the white noise that Hollywood pumps out. Even PIXAR movies are forgettable these days.
>>13976979
Episode One was disliked for having a precocious nine year old Darth Vader and midichlorians. But in hindsight it introduced a whole new world and brought digital effects way forward.
It was just TV movie tier direction with a lot of hype behind it.
>>13976982
One solid meme that will persist for years is an accomplishment in this day and age.
>>13976948
Its not as memorable because all the designs are so shit
the main reason why people care about star wars is stormtroopers and x wings and the like, stuff that can be merchandised.
the only decent thing to come out of TFA that was new and original was BB8.
>>13976992
>Episode One was disliked for having a precocious nine year old Darth Vader and midichlorians
And JarJar
and a poorly defined central conflict
and astonishingly wooden acting from actors capable of far better
and a script riddled with groan-worthy dialogue and a lot of redundant lines
I'm sorry, even beyond the fan hate, Episode I is still a pretty poorly made movie.
>>13977005
One thing Uncle George always made sure to bring to the table each time was a shit load of new mecha, aliens and setpieces. For better or worse.
>so dense
>>13977008
It IS really pretty, especially Naboo.
>>13976948
/m/ doesn't talk about Votoms every day. Does that mean it's forgotten it? No. There's just not a lot to say about it. And you should already know how short an attention span the mainstream media has.
>>13977008
Jar Jar is a mascot for little kids. He's annoying but getting angry at him is like bitching about Minions.
>>13977013
And the Trade Federation designs are top tier.
Unique and angry and menacing. They're industrial.
>>13977028
Jar Jar was originally scripted and acted as a regular, no-nonsense alien. Then George decided he wanted a physical comedian a large Buster Keaton in the movie, and the suit actor was given a new direction.
Which, I suppose it worked with R2-D2 and C3-P0 in the original trilogy, so he just went with it.
>>13977042
A lot of prequel stuff was inspired by the original trilogy. For example Boba Fett being the model for the Clone Army comes from his armor being originally intended as a super stormtrooper.
>>13977042
>Jar Jar was originally scripted and acted as a regular, no-nonsense alien.
You got a source on that? Cause the only drafts have seen for TPM are pretty close to the finished product we got.
>>13977034
Doug Chiang is the hero we desreved. He got booted after Ep I, and that's why Clones is such a production design shitshow.
I'm guessing he said "no" to Lucas one time.
>>13977056
depending on how far back you want to go, he's a soft reboot of the original proto-Chewy/Han Solofrog alien character from the OT rough drafts.
>>13977057
Lucas interfering with designs is the result of a lot of dumb things. Like the Clone artillery have legs instead of wheels.
>>13976982
The story TR8TR's brave fight against a protagonist is a story that will be passed down for generations.
>>13976982
>The only that people remembered about that movie is IT'S A TRAP.
>And it was the only good part.
>>13977094
Just noticed this had an ifunny watermark. That's what I get for not having it stored and grabbing it off google images. I think I need to go commit Sudoku now.
>>13977094
>broad chest
Considering how that ended, I'm laughing for different reasons.
>>13977094
Between Nines/TR8TR becoming canon and the /tv/ porno, memes are becoming real.
>>13977103
Also, Sheev getting tossed into an air shaft.
>>13977056
I got it wrong, and the Buster Keaton influence was in the character as soon as Lucks met Best (the suit actor) during casting. So it was always acted out, though more so as time went on in the films production. The early drafts, pre-casting, all have Jar Jar speaking normally though.
>>13977028
He's a mascot for kids that comes off as increadibly obnoxious, and is pushed left right front and center. If he was a more minor character then I could forgive it. But they constantly focus the frame on him doing stupid shit like sniffing in alien camel farts and hitting the connector thing between the pod racer pods.
Then there's that retarded shit with him becoming a general
>>13977103
girls remember ewoks pretty fondly, but you probably wouldn't be aware of that.
>>13976975
>compared to something like Avatar or District 9.
>Implying anybody even gives a shit about Avatar anymore
Any time you bring up Avatar anywhere they either confuse it with the cartoon (as they should) or just know it was that Dances With Wolves/Pocahantos ripoff with blue cat people from a bunch of years ago
>>13977117
>memes are becoming real.
Do you even know who Richard Dawkins is?
>>13977145
There was an interesting article a while back discussing this effect, actually.
Was trying to figure out how this movie seemingly took the world by storm on its initial release...only to then vanish without so much as an echo afterward.
>>13977149
did it conclude that social attention spans are shrinking?
WHO CARES?! CIVIL WAR IN THEATERS IN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS ZOMG
>>13977149
It had literally no staying power. Compared to Titanic anyway.
People just fell too hard for the THIS MOVIE TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLLLLLLD hypeincluding meand I'm pretty sure it's the reason movies come out in like 4 different formats these days (Standard, RPX/APX/whateversomethingX, 3D and IMAX 3D)
What the fuck is a popcorn flick?
You guys don't eat popcorn whenever you go to the movies?
>>13977181
there needs to be a "let me urban dictionary that for you" webpage
>>13977181
Popcorn flick means a big summer (or Christmas time) blockbuster which is built primarily on spectacle and entertainment to make lots of money. They generally aren't "thinking" movies, or films that win Best Picture (but it had happened). A New Hope to many was the start of the concept of the popcorn movie, but personally I would give that honor to Jaws, since it's what made the idea of the summer movie popular.
Note there's nothing wrong with a popcorn movie, as long as it knows how to do what it's doing well. Patrick Stewart loves popcorn movies...but then he also loves Beavis and Butt-Head.
>>13977252
What's wrong with Beavis and Butt-head?
>>13976948
> The death of Han Solo had zero cultural impact. No one talks about it
Have you been on the Internet ever since a day before the movie premiered?
Do you even know about this character called TR8R?
Seriously, if you dont like the movie that's fine, it's not without its flaws, but saying people dont care about it is stupid.
And if you expected it to have the same impact on mainstream culture as the OT you're retarded since the OT and this have been released on completely different situations.
>>13977254
While it was a great encapsulation of retarded 90s teens and music culture...it was basically you watching idiots on MTV talk about idiots on MTV.
>>13976948
So?
>>13976948
>People have forgotten about this
Umm.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-the-force-awakens-and-deadpool-dominate-the-mtv-movie-awards-nominations-a6920916.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jj-abrams-explains-mistake-star-wars-force-awakens/story?id=37522385
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3478443/Star-Wars-hero-Luke-Skywalker-gay-says-actor-plays-Mark-Hamill.html
>>13977388
>tfw can't take anything Hamill says seriously because he's the Joker
>>13977416
And the Trickster, Hobgoblin, Captain Stickybeard, The Red Skull, Darth Bane, Ozai...
Shit he's the greatest cartoon villain that ever lived.
>>13977416
>Tfw Hamill does 'Joker reads 50 shade'
>>13976982
>>13977094
To be fair the scene was pretty dope.
>>13977427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuhKtJhtckQ
>>13976975
Don't forget the special effects for Star Wars was really amazing for the seventies. ESB was magic too.
The special effects for the new movie was something we'd already seen a hundred times.
>>13977146
>Do you even know who Richard Dawkins is?
Did he make a porno written by some people on an chinese image board?
>>13977498
TR8TR!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqKtype7Kk
March of the Resistance is the only good thing that came out of the movie in my opinion.
Outside of TR8TR and the occasional X-Wing scene.
>>13977562
>forgetting about the NOPE Troopers
The Troopers were honestly the best they ever were in TFA. Peeling away the almost machinelike nature of their prior appearances helped to make them more relatable and thus memorable.
It's weird saying that about Stormies, honestly.
>Hamhill got paid more money than you will ever see to get in shape and stare at a lightsaber for a few minutes.
>>13977562
The soundtrack is weak because Williams didn't have the full movie in front of him and he couldn't get the London Symphony Orchestra.
So it's a mix of stuff that was done piecemeal.
>>13977537
Shame that whole last part was cut out. Granted, it's hard to spray your mouth, then have time to speak when you're on the edge of nutting.
>>13977601
The actor got to keep the bane penis mask though.
>>13976982
I thought it was forgetable. When it happened I thought 'oh, that was that meme thing.' I don't get the memesters.
>>13977562
Space Hitler was pretty memorable.
>>13977618
He's the first competent stormie we've ever seen on screen and he nearly beats an MC to death with a huge baton.
What do you want, a grunt blowjob?
>>13977627
What did he even do besides bitch at Kylo?
>>13977629
>What did he even do besides bitch at Kylo?
He knew to get the fuck out before the base exploded. Basically Tarkin, but less consumed by pride.
>>13977648
Tarkin did nothing wrong, though. That was one sick battlestation.
I'd argue that it isn't so much because the movie itself isn't good as because Star Wars in general has become less relevant, old memes and old pop culture references aside
>>13977650
>posting rebels
>>13977665
Not him, but what wrong with Rebels? It took some time to get going but now I'm enjoying it immenselyarguably more than TFA.
>>13977672
Coming from TCW it's a giant drop in quality.
Protagonist is shitty as are the supporting characters, most notably the "mandalorian" "I'm going to graffiti everything to defy the man" girl.
Returning characters such as old troopers and Ahsoka are not handled with grace.
Vader's head looks dumb.
It's gotten me into actually reading Star Wars books and shit, and I'm still buying more, it did a great job
>>13976948
Yeah you posted this exact same thread on /tv/ too, and no one fell for it there. Please just fuck off, you autist.
>>13977516
... tell me again why they just didn't get Hamil to play Joker in Suicide Squad?
he could have been an "older" baddie that really knew how to to lead the team.
Well shit.
>>13977685
Confirmed for only having watched a handful of rebels episodes. Watch the rest of season 2 or fuckoff back to /tv/
>>13976979
See, that's the problem. It wasn't good like the original trilogy or a fucking disastrous trainwreck like the prequels. It was exactly middle of the road mediocre and was utterly forgettable for it.
>>13977729
Word of advice, avoid Aftermath, it's the worst fucking Star Wars book. And this is coming from someone who read the old EU.
>>13977810
>Watch the rest of season 2 or fuckoff back to /tv/
Why would I watch something that I have no desire to watch?
>>13977866
Because you're not being fair to the show. So either shut up, or watch the show then shitpost.
>>13977770
Especially when you consider Batfleck is supposed to be an older, grizzled Batman. Having 20-something Margot Robbie opposite 60-something Hamill would also just a lot more in tune with the Arkham depictions.
>>13977770
Doesn't he not want to play the Joker anymore?
>>13976979
That would've been nice. Something to talk about is better than nothing. That's what TFA is: Nothing.
>>13977094
>>13977629
>What do you want, a grunt blowjob?
It's /m/. Of course people will want that.
>>13977816
>old EU
Ugh, I feel so old now considering the many years I invested in those stories as a kid...Well, at least until the post-NJO books, then I wanted everything to burn.
>>13977910
>Because you're not being fair to the show
So wait, anon needs to watch the rest of season 2 to be fair? Watching the entirety of season 1 and whatever part of season 2 that doesn't include "the rest" isn't already a fair shake?
>>13977816
Already read it, it's not good but it at least has some interesting stuff in it
My favorites are Lost Stars, Tarkin, and Weapon of a Jedi
>>13976948
The movie came out a few months ago. There's not much to talk about. When we get more information about VIII buzz will start generating again.
I'm not saying VII was a good movie, mind you. I thought it was pretty boring and weak for the most part.
>>13977467
wait, is this a real thing? I must see
>>13978223
That's the thing. Even in the most flattering light, where it was some comfy retread of the original trilogy that served as both proof of concept that Disney can handle the franchise and set piece to establish things for the movies to follow, there just wasn't anything startlingly new yet.
>>13977541
TRAITOR
>>13977685
>He doesn't know about Chopper
>>13977685
>old troopers and Ahsoka are not handled with grace.
>Vader's head looks dumb
fair enough except for Vaders head is based on the concept, which i dont mind.
but to but early Clone Wars sucked dick too
>>13977685
How the fuck is Kanan Jarrus not awesome
Wish they kept Chewbacca ripping his own arm off.
>>13978280
Honestly that's one of the big problems. They played it too safe with this movie. It's practically a remake of A New Hope with some changes.
The other big problem is Rey who just isn't a compelling character. Finn could be a decent enough MC on his own but she's pretty bad.
>>13977008
>astonishingly wooden acting from actors capable of far better
Wasn't that mostly to be blamed on Lucas' direction?
>>13977064
To be fair you had to set up to the Imperial AT series vehicles somehow.
>>13979110
Not really, the Emperor or some Imp could have come up with them on their own. That said, in regards to the OP I do wonder if there are any films in the past 15 odd years that are talked about or referenenced after they've hit the cinema? Social attention on any one topic seems like it'd be shorter due to a dearth of choice and instantaneous communication.
>>13978280
if the producers of the next movie can turn this around and go "yeah, the previous movie was a retread, because we only wanted to show that it was in good hands, but don't worry the next movie will explore a lot more new grounds", then that would be great.
But...
Considering the fact that they made a shit load of money with 7, why would they bother making anything new when they can just rehash the previous episodes?
Even if the prequel trilogy was less than ideal, it still introduced a shit ton to the universe.
>>13979201
With JJ Abrams at the helm....yeah, sadly I can see this happening. Just like how ST Into Darkness was just a retread of Wrath of Khan but "with a tveeeest!", I fear that with him in charge, episode 8 is just gonna be a retread of Empire Strikes Back, again "with a tveeeest!", most likely how Rey is Skywalker's daughter or something.
>>13979201
> why would they bother making anything new when they can just rehash the previous episodes?
It's like people have no idea what the Hero's Journey is. I'll tell you what happens in 8: The heroes fight evil but lose and suffer some sort major blow; in episode 9 the good guys finally defect evil and win. hmmm sound like ep 4-6? It's the same story people have been telling for 1000's of years.
>>13976948
>It was just another forgettable pop-corn flick.
>JJ Abrams
No shit.
>>13979106
Yes. Apparently there's a video somewhere of Hayden doing a great job and then Lucas tells him to dial down the emotion.
>>13979215
Then it sure is a good thing JarJar Abrahams is done with Star Wats.
TR-8R should have been Phasma. That whole fight may have been the only really memorable scene in the whole movie, but it makes no sense that some random nobody stormtrooper ended up doing that other than as a subversion of the whole "stormtroopers are incompetent" thing.
Phasma had personal beef with Finn and interacted with him immediately before he defected. Her showing up wanting to personally club his head in would be far more meaningful for both characters.
>>13979288
Hayden was never really a good actor, you can see it in what little movies he's done after, but when seeing how otherwise great actors perform in Star Wars I can't blame him for his bad acting as Anakin
>>13979288
>Apparently there's a video somewhere of Hayden doing a great job and then Lucas tells him to dial down the emotion.
That's fucking retarded. Everything we have been told about Anakin as a character is that he is an individual with a lot of conflicting emotions boiling inside him, that being emotional and compassionate is his trait. Why would you prevent an actor from bringing those traits to light when portraying the character then?!
>>13979128
True.
The Beatles were a sensation in the sixties because they were one of the few. They were also being pushed by labels and record stores.
Nowadays I can instantaneously listen to any music from any band.
>>13976975
If TFA has one major failing, it was baggage from the source material.
The Prequel Trilogy was a mess (I mean, midichlorians? seriously?) and most of the fanbase was burned so it was on JJ Abrams to sooth the pain of the Prequels and reassure people that Star Wars is good.
That, and Luke Skywalker does absolutely nothing of note during the entire movie. I mean, not even a "Who the fuck are you?" Or "Didn't I loose that at Bespin?" Or "Rey, I Am Your Father".
>>13979398
>That, and Luke Skywalker does absolutely nothing of note during the entire movie.
I don't think many people care about that. Who gives a toss about Luke Skywalker, really? Han Solo is the true face of Star Wars, and his role in the movie is large.
>>13979398
Yeah but on the bright side it got Mark Hamill fit and he looks pretty fucking good for it.
>>13979419
Not him, but me. I could give a shit about Solo/Ford frankly. Or the Falcon. Luke/X-Wing was my bag.
>>13976975
>Solid
Yeah, like my stool perhaps.
>>13976960
How was Lando planned to die originally? Sacrificing himself in the Death Star?
>>13979419
I've always preferred Luke over Han.
>>13979419
the fuck did you just say?
>>13976992
>it introduced a whole new world
That no one cares about. They are still selling toys and models based on the original series designs. No one cares about the worlds or designs of the prequel series.
>>13977005
>the only decent thing to come out of TFA that was new and original was BB8.
Derivative of R2D2. And trying too hard to be cute. Fuck him.
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What's with all this TR8TR bullshit? It's TR-8R.
>>13979595
>>13979419
I hate Han Solo. He's a Gary Stu in so many ways. Ugly ship but it's the fastest in the galaxy. Dumbass low life criminal but everyone loves him.
