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why did they decided to remake gundam seed?
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why did they decided to remake gundam seed?
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>>13960270
>Commie
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>>13960270
Outside of the recycled visual elements and racism, it's really not.
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>>13960415
everything about this show just reeks of seed
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Because if this was remaking Dendoh, that would make it really awkward
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cartoon for kids
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>>13960436
Please tell me what scene from Seed this resembles.
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>>13960543

tusk is such a fucking tard
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>>13960553
the scene when my seeds spill out.
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delicious dragon
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>>13960602
>no nipples even on bd

No, no I'm not
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>>13960617
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>nipple budget went to advertising.
That said a Ragna-mail buildable plamo would be cool as fuck. Yes I know about the robot spirits but those are like 70-80 dollars if you can find one.
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>>13960792
I got Vilkiss for $40. It was on sale because it didn't sale at the original price.
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wow this series had a lot of bondage
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>>13960602
Beautiful, I bet Fukuda giggled doing this.
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>>13960702
never forget, he got the tip in
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>>13960631
This is actually creepy, what the fuck, how the hell can the censored version be better than this fucking manequin abomination?
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>>13960974
Its because while being shadowed it at least looked like there could be nipples and shit, without it there is not such thing, only the void
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>>13960543
Restrained Ange made my dick hard like a diamond.
It has been been my fantasy of having girls with nice ass and tits have their hand and legs tied with single string or hands since childhood.
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>>13960631
So Rau-le-Embryo made a nipple -less race after having the impression from watching lots of anime as he never saw a real girl naked.
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>>13960270
His nipples...
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>>13960792
Was it advertising? I thought the reason was something like "there are so many tits in this show, that if we actually went back and drew nipples on all of them it would take forever."

If Highschool DxD could do it, what's your excuse Sunrise?
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>>13960415
It had characters surviving death when there was no reason for them to, just like SEED.
It had the designated "This person committed monstrous atrocities, but pssst that's a non-issue when they turn out to be our friend" Mwu character, just like SEED (Destiny).

It has an ending involving the heroes supplanting the official villain while being presented as if we're supposed to feel happy and being applauding them as heroes, when everything about what they're doing is questionable if not exactly the same as the villain they're defeating, just like SEED.
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>>13961178
>If Highschool DxD could do it, what's your excuse Sunrise?
>Sunrise
You just answered your own question.
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>>13961356
>It has an ending involving the heroes supplanting the official villain

What? Didn't Ange go back to the Dragon World and leaving everyone manaless?
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>>13961383
Their problem with Embryo is he just wants to stay holed up in his Arzenal sanctuary with his waifu while letting the rest of the world go to Hell. After they kill him, they proceed to stay holed up in the same Sanctuary Embryo planned to keep for himself while the rest of the world goes to Hell.

Fukuda had to add some bullshit on Twitter after the show ended to explain it's not like that at all, because Jasmine is making sure the manaless world is doing okay off-camera. The dude is fucking pathetic and needs to stop writing sci-fi.
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>>13961356

Cross Ange reminds me of The Room.

Not for the reasons you're thinking, but because of how Tommy Wiseau thinks when he writes. According to Greg's book The Disaster Artist, a lot of The Room's big revelations were never meant to go anywhere. People asked where Claudette having breast cancer, Lisa pretending to be pregnant were supposed to go in the original script. He replied that Wiseau never intended the twists to go anywhere (and wouldn't justify them past "That's the twist!")
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>>13961459
Fukuda in general just reminds me a LOT of Wiseau.
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what the fuck even is this show? at first glance i thought the pic in the op was an edited seed frame made to look like Heero and Relena from Wing
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>>13961475

Nah, Fukuda seems to understand when he's fucked up. Even if he doubles down or defends himself.

Wiseau is different, he doesn't think like a normal human being. Even to this day he's convinced that The Room is the greatest work in human cinema history.
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>>13961401
>Fukuda had to add some bullshit on Twitter after the show ended to explain it's not like that at all, because Jasmine is making sure the manaless world is doing okay off-camera. The dude is fucking pathetic and needs to stop writing sci-fi.

Which is ridiculous because the show pretty well establishes that Ange, Hilde, and their friends are exactly the kind of people who would let the mana-Earth go fuck itself

They hate that place
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>>13960837
Gag fag compilation where?
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>>13961356
> three incredibly reaching, contorted points
So again, it's not like SEED. Aside from the aforementioned Fukuda facade.
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>>13961401
Really he should've stuck to making kid's shows. It all goes to hell when he tries to make something "mature"
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>cartoon for children
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Not gonna lie, my favorite part was Ange yelling at Embryo in the last episode.

Also has anyone found a decent upload of the El Ragna duet?
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>>13961970

The one that plays during the show itself when Ange and Salamaladingdong first fight, or a full version of that track?
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>>13961970
It's in OST 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PDuvxv16zQ
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>>13961976
Full version.
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>>13961602
In Sestero's book it's implied Wiseau is an Eastern European immigrant who got the shit beat out of him so he's all fucked in the head now.
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>>13962432

Continually, and took a lot of abuse from the French police.

But like Greg even says, there's shit in his stories that contradicts other stories of his past he's told, so who knows what parts are true.
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>>13962432
>>13962453
Wiseau is more interesting than his movie.
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>>13962474

True, but the movie is fascinating the more you realize that it's such an introspective look into the mind of the person who made it.

Plus it'll always be one of the funniest movies ever.
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>>13960631
I wonder why they didn't add in nipples.
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>>13962492
see >>13961178
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>>13962503
How lazy.
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>>13961926
That is something a deranged father would do.
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>>13962509
Sooo...why did she turn on the other girls again?
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>>13962521
They let her die.
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>>13962521
Jill was a piece of shit as a parent and Ange made her feel inadequate.

Jill saw and understood Salia's need to avenge her. She didn't want that life for Salia. So she started treating her like shit once killing Embryo actually became a possibility, to discourage her and push her away.

Salia interpreted this as Jill liking Ange more, because Salia has small dick issues.

Jill fucked up.
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>>13962536

And she never bothered telling Salia that she can't use the Vilkiss because she lacks royal blood and the ring.
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>>13962583
Blood did never matter.
The ring was the only thing that was needed.
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>>13962411
Wow, Tusk has one hell of a booty
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tfw i will never sleep next to my tied up waifu in bed.
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is there any decent romance in this or is it just all ecchi?
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>>13962754
the romance between rosalie and chris is pretty good desu
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>>13962754
There's a lot of sleazy shit punctuated by generally fluffy romance stuff (Ange/Tusk, Hilde/Ange, Momoka/Ange, and based Rosalie/Chris although Tusk wins the Angebowl and Momoka was never really in the running)

And an immortal god-rapist I guess
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>>13962758
>>13962756

ok cool

i don't mind all the ecchi at all i just like to see it have a point other than fan service

call me old fashioned?
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>>13962764
you're old fashioned
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>>13962906

That gif is horrifying

Why didn't you just save the .webm
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>>13962908
i don't save anything
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>>13961475
>Nah, Fukuda seems to understand when he's fucked up.

I’m going to ask you this seriously: What point has that ever happened?

After GSD ended and everyone above the age of 12 noticed Kira and Lacus don't actually work as the courageous heroes and pure-hearted moral compasses that the show portrays them as, Fukuda spent the next two years trying to remake the show through Final Plus and the Special Editions to make it look like they were. He had to ADD scenes that never originally existed, showing Durandal scheming to manipulate Shinn into fighting Kira early in the show, and twirling his mustache at the Orb invasion, in order to retroactively make Kira and Lacus not look as bad by comparison.

That's not admitting your story has absolutely insane, mindboggling character logic. This is the sort of thing you do when you're trying to brush your glaring mistakes as a writer under the rug.

And any time someone comes along trying to actually FIX Destiny (i.e. the Super Robot Wars adaptation), he flips out on Twitter about how unhappy he is that someone is trying to change a story that's already "complete." But he's perfectly okay with pulling the same after-the-fact bullshit by making Durandal look retardedly cartoony, and editing Destiny Gundam out of the entire final episode of the show that’s named after it (the most recent HD cut literally does this), and having Nicol run into Kira's sword like a suicidal klutz, just as long as it serves the purpose of making the small group of characters HE'S infatuated with and inserts way too much of himself into look unimpeachable.

Cut me a fucking break.

(more to come)
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>>13962919

RIP in peace best woman. ;___;7
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>>13963812
And a whole decade later, when he was working on Cross Ange, was there ever any indication of "Wow, looking back on it, I really fucked up Destiny. I'm going to take my mistakes into account and actually try to tell a good story this time"? No. He turns Cross Ange into a goofy fanservice mess, he ends the show with the EXACT SAME profound hypocrisy that ruined GSD, and he's back to Square Fucking One trying to make his heroes not look like the complete monsters he accidentally turned them into.

The guy comes off like a legit sociopath who lives his batshit mentality through his characters. He only starts backpeddling when someone else points it out.
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>>13963812
>>13963820

If you expected Cross Ange to be a serious war narrative at any point, I'm sorry to tell you that you have autism. Cross Ange is to Fukuda what Kill Bill is to Tarantino.
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BEST SCENE, SHOULD'VE CAUGHT THAT SHIT ON THE REBOUND THO
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>>13963834
>Cross Ange is to Fukuda what Kill Bill is to Tarantino.
I keep forgetting CA has the most retarded defenders.
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>>13963834
He never said it was a serious war drama idiot, its just fucking shit.
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>>13962749
>these aren't my glasses
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>>13963812

I meant fuck up economically. Remember that Destiny was a success, so to him his decisions were justified.
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>>13963834
>Cross Ange is to Fukuda what Kill Bill is to Tarantino.

okay but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St8iEpkcDJc

Tarantino makes garbage. Tarantino is completely aware that he's making garbage. Tarantino is comfortable with making garbage, because he knows that's what entertains people.

Fukuda acts like he's preaching some kind of important message about acceptance and tolerance when he's writing his characters. He digs himself into a deeper hole whenever someone points out he's actually writing garbage, and he becomes completely insecure at any type of criticism.

They're nothing alike.
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>>13961926
I thought it was pretty clear that this show wasn't meant for children when Ange was spouting Hitleristic ideals in episode 1 and then got "cavity searched".
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>>13964319
It's a late night show that airs 1:30 in the morning.
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>>13960270

why are his nipples so fucking pink
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>>13964590
Blame Commie.
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>>13963812

Good old Abicion will not quell his rage until he hates Fukuda to the point where he dies in real life too.
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>>13964753
Hi Dr. Casey
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>>13963834
Fukuda sure does treat it seriously while no one else did. If you have to go on Twitter to explain that your main cast didn't doom the world you fucked up.
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>>13965023
I still think that everyone in the staff except Fukuda himself were in on the joke, which would explain the episode previews.
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>>13965023

I don't know. I think people just like to assume the worst.

I mean Mass Effect 3's extended cut was basically just to tell people that they managed to fix everything after the battle (which should have been assumed) and Kawamori had to outright tell people Alto didn't die in Wings of Goodbye, both of which were done because the audience seems to assume failure unless explicitly told so.
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>>13965067
People have a tendency to be thick and retarded about stuff.
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>>13965164
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>>13965067
>I mean Mass Effect 3's extended cut was basically just to tell people that they managed to fix everything after the battle (which should have been assumed)

That kinda depends on which ending.
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>>13960270
SEED was just 0079, remade to include all of the worst Anime tropes of the early 2000's. I see no reason why remaking the remake, later, with all of the worst tropes of the mid 2010's should be much different.
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>>13965213

People assumed the relays blew out in every end and the Normandy crew was stuck on a random planet forever, which is where the "Every ending throws the galaxy into chaos" stuff started.
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>>13965289

Right, I forgot that originally they basically were just different colors and we didn't see the ramifications of it.
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>>13962453
I guess he just likes his past to be multiple choice.

Let's face it, his current face is a makeup. Wash it away and you'll find that his face is bleached white and his hair is green.
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>>13961178
>what's your excuse Sunrise?
The tits specialists are busy on Akito and Origin.
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>>13965339

Reference aside, it's more that he's perpetually afraid of people finding out things about his life. He acted like he was famous before he was famous.
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>>13963976

Pretty much. It's hard to argue to him that his story flaws that only angry people on the internet seem to care about means he fucked up when Sunrise was patting him on the back for making them a ton of money.

Yeah he didn't give them something they could milk for decades to come like Sunrise wanted, but he still did better than basically every AU director since in terms of success.

The only thing they could hold against him was the production delays coming dangerously close to getting the show pulled from having nothing to air that week, something that Ange actually did correct as that wasn't an issue there (mostly because he was strategically put in a position where the deadline and budget stuff was delegated to other people)
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>>13961356
People nonsensically surviving is a common thing in anime, as are villains that become allies with a handwave of their misdeeds. The villain replacement thing is an incredible stretch of interpretation.

More like:
> MC has a genetic disparity that makes them an outcast
> The unfairness of the stigma against the MC's condition is shown rather often, and via extreme examples
> Despite this, MC later discovers they have quality even beyond their genetics that makes them singularly competent with their machine
> That machine is predominately white with primary accents
> MC is driven out of their home in the first few episodes
> MC is forced into being a pilot as a result, but takes to it quickly because of some form of prior training
> Main ship can travel air, space, and serve as a submarine
> Obligatory shot-down-on-an-island-to-meet-love-interest episode
> Obligatory battle-to-save-island-bastion-that-ultimately-falls-anyway episode
> Obligatory sex scene
> Mid-series climax has the MC go missing, end up somewhere else with their love-interest, get some form of upgrade, and come back triumphant
> Some of the MC's allies flop to the other side and become the single biggest danger ahead of the final boss, amid a surprising lack of other enemy aces

> Rest of the cast includes:
> Bitchy redhead who initially wants to kill the MC but later falls in love with them
> Preppy blue-haired by-the-book sort who, while initially one of the friendliest to the MC, eventually becomes jealous and enraged and turns into the MC's biggest rival, only to come back around again by the end
> Pink-haired ara ara girl with a musical connection who comes to look after a gaggle of kids
> Hardass raven-haired commander who keeps trying to punish the MC
> Sandy-brown haired bob-cut girl who gets into a star-crossed relationship with someone that was actively shooting at them
> Mysterious blonde man as the main villain, who manipulates the powers that be into a world-ending conflict
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>did they decided
Why is ESL posting allowed?
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So how does Tusk survive just being only human guy? Must suck.
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>>13968145

He's a ninja, how do you think he survived detonating a suicide vest?
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>>13968130
>People nonsensically surviving is a common thing in anime
I think there is a clear difference between jsut surviving and strapping c4 to your body and detonating it and somehow surviving with nothing to show
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>>13968145
Because he's alpha. So alpha even lesbian bitches want him.
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>>13968507
>So alpha even lesbian bitches want him.

Wasn't the plan for her to fuck Tusk to get to Ange There's Something About Mary-style?
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>>13968507
>>13968479
But it's got to be really lonely surrounded by all those female hormones.
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>>13971506
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>>13971507
>but not bad
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>>13960702

Almost looks like he's squatting there.
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>>13971617
First hint of his shit-taste
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>>13963976
>Remember that Destiny was a success, so to him his decisions were justified.

Yes and no. There's this interview with Ueno, who was president of Bandai at the time, about him talking about CE fans. He flat out says that a lot of SEED fans were high school girls, then later goes on to say they were more interested in buying DVDs and CDs over Gunpla. He admitted that it was a problem for Bandai, and in the future they'll need to create products specifically to cater to that demographic.

Towards the end of the interview, the subject of a new Gundam AU comes up where Ueno talks about creating a third fanbase. A fanbase that was neither UC or CE, and made up of middle through highschoolers.

It's safe to say at this point that while SEED may have been success financially, it attracted a crowd Bandai wasn't prepared to deal with and ultimately doesn't care for.
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>>13965289
>>13965311
Watch it again. Every ending except for the "shoot the starchild" ending has the Citadel shoot the Mass Relays with a colored beam causing them all to explode after they relay it. It doesn't matter what ending it is, they all end with the Mass Relays destroyed. The extended ending does help, but it doesn't explain how they were able to repair them in the Destroy and Synthesis endings as only the Reapers could conceivable have any knowledge as to how the damn things actually WORK. The current Citadel races didn't know anything about how to build them, just how to use them.
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>>13971841
Post-Synthesis ending Reapers are friends of the Citadel races.

https://youtu.be/e_JvTacJpcQ?t=8m11s

The only ending where the MRs are destroyed for good is the fittingly-named Destroy ending.
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>>13964269
Maybe Frank Miller would be a better comparison to Fukuda?
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>>13964567
then it's a show for otakus then
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>>13971914
What was Miller's last work?
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>>13975503
He's currently crapping out a third part to his Dark Knight series, called The Master Race.

Yeah...
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I got my Tusk versus god sword fight in a meadow, I am happy.
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>>13975730
>Dark Knight series, called The Master Race

Batman was bad for his brain.
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>>13980886

It's about Superman and Batman versus "the Master Race", the Kandorians
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She was 12.
She loved to play piano. ;_;
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I like how this show was basically advocating femdom all the way through.
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