Seeing as we argue so much about the quality of the various Gundam shows on this board, I thought we could rate them to see which ones are the most and least liked.
0079: http://strawpoll.me/6878480
Zeta: http://strawpoll.me/6878481
ZZ: http://strawpoll.me/6878485
Victory: http://strawpoll.me/6878487
G: http://strawpoll.me/6878490
Wing: http://strawpoll.me/6878495
X: http://strawpoll.me/6878497
Turn-A: http://strawpoll.me/6878499
SEED: http://strawpoll.me/6878500
SEED Destiny: http://strawpoll.me/6878501
00: http://strawpoll.me/6878502
AGE: http://strawpoll.me/6878504
Build Fighters: http://strawpoll.me/6878506
Build Fighters Try: http://strawpoll.me/6878508
G-Reco: http://strawpoll.me/6878510
Don't vote for shows you haven't seen.
Good: 0079, Victory, G, X, Turn A
Okay: Zeta, Double Zeta
Didn't watch the rest.
>>13902608
You should make a better scaling than that.
There are a bunch of series that I wouldn't call "good", but I certainly wouldn't call them mediocre or bad.
>>13902665
What would you call them, then?,
1-4/10 - bad
5-7/10 - mediocre
8-10/10 - good
Good: 0079, Zeta
Mediocre: ZZ
Bad: X
Only other Gundam I've seen are the UC OVAs/movie.
Has there been an update to this, or a new chart?
>>13903507
Yeah bro, there have been at least 3 updates to it.
>>13903526
Do you have it?
>>13903947
i only have a more up-to-date version i scribbled on detailing which i've seen and which i've watched
>>13903984
Thanks a lot, it has commentary on more recent shows so it's all good
>>13903984
Wrong one
>garbage like Turn shit gets that many high votes
>>13904054
This is an elitist circle jerk.
Good: my favorite
Bad: your favorite
>yfw the only BAD show is Destiny
This was a horrible poll OP. Needs more degrees.
>mfw people actually voted ZZ as anything other than BAD
Sure is MAL up in here.
>>13904083
Age has been doing worse than Destiny.
>>13904083
Don't worry, I'll throw another vote in for ZZ after I watch another 43 episodes of it.
>>13904042
Shouldn't this adress the Origin manga as an alternative to 0079?
>>13904118
No idea, all I know is that any chart that puts in "regarded as worst" for anything other than Age is shit on arrival.
>>13904122
Some shit probably just needs to get moved around, since Destiny had "regarded as worst" on it before AGE had pros and cons added.
>>13904042
>Wing
>Memorable antagonists
Other than flip-flopping Zechs and Trieze they're not memorable
>>13904137
Better idea: Lets just remove "regarded as worst" since /m/ can't make up its mind as to what is the worst.
>>13904122
It doesn't say that on any entry on that chart though.
>>13904090
>worse than
False Destiny has nearly double the bad votes of AGEWhen I made that post AGE had more mediocre votes
>>13904139
>Other than the memorable antagonists, there are no memorable antagonists
Why are so many tripfags so stupid?
>>13904155
>same polls have a bunch of Turn A circle jerking
Not trusting those polls.
>>13904070
Yeah, that's how opinions work.
Do people really think that Destiny is worse then G-Reco and ZZ?
>>13903253
My nigga. I feel like everyone else has such a skewed opinion of x cause of muh most underrated gundam.
>>13904707
How is this new or shocking information to you? /m/ has essentially always thought this. I'm only disappointed /m/ doesn't think AGE is worse than Destiny frankly and is letting it off the hook as mediocre.
>>13904054
Epic
When is that Crossbone anime coming out?
>>13904889
Never, Sunrise doesn't care about fanfiction-tier manga
>>13904889
It isn't. Crossbone itself finished almost 20 years ago. If it wasn't made in the couple of years after that, it's never getting made and I've no idea why people persist in the illusion it might get made at some point despite that. Especially when all the Gundams already have gunpla so that there's not even really anything for the anime to advertise. And no, the fact that Hasegawa is continuing to pump out sequels to this day doesn't change the fact that the original manga finished up so long ago when it comes to considering it for animation, because most of those sequels wouldn't fit comfortably within the scope of a regular anime adaptation and would simply be OVA or sequel shows of their own, not all part of one single tv show.
Crossbone is never getting an anime adaptation. You might as well give up on it, because Sunrise have no incentive to do so and it's simply been finished for too long to happen.
>>13904807
This desu. There is no excuse for the shit that went down with Kio. That is some of the dumbest stuff I have ever seen in fiction.
>>13904999
To be honest, while I think Kio is bad I think it's the show's treatment of it's villains and it's wasting of the entire generational premise that really drags the entire thing down. That along with all the wasted episodes, how disconnected Asemu is from the other two generations, atrocious writing, plot holes, dull battles and so on. Kio is the one people pick on, but to be honest, I think he's low down the list of the show's major faults.
Objective facts:
Good: 0079, Zeta, Victory, 00, G-Reco
Mediocre: ZZ, G, Wing, Turn A, SEED, Destiny, BF
Bad: X, AGE, Try
>>13905088
Switch Turn-A and G-Reco in my opinion, otherwise breddy gud.
Would people even like G-Reco if it wasn't by Tomino?
>>13905154
It would be a completely different show if it wasn't made by Tomino.
>>13905154
G-Reco wouldn't exist if it wasn't made by Tomino.
>>13905154
It would receive less hate if it wasn't named Gundam.
Look at Overman King Gainer, it's pretty well received and you rarely see someone shitting on it.
>>13905299
Pretty much. G-Reco is pretty much a King Gainer sequel as it is. Their direction, writing and design are the epitome of all that Tomino ever created.
>>13905483
>G-Reco's writing
>epitome of all that Tomino has created
It really isn't. It's a rehash of Zeta and Turn-A, condensed to the point of incomprehensibility and excused with a retarded "LMAO WHO CARES WHAT'S HAPPENING IT'S JUST A FUN ADVENTURE BRO" presentation.
>>13905528
>t. It's a rehash of Zeta and Turn-A, condensed to the point of incomprehensibility and excused with a retarded "LMAO WHO CARES WHAT'S HAPPENING IT'S JUST A FUN ADVENTURE BRO" presentation.
Explain
>>13905550
because zeta and turn a are the only tomino shows hes seen
What makes an anime be Tomino? Everyone clearly knows what he repeats in every anime, but I don't really feel he has much of a trademark beyond angsty children.
>>13905625
I'd have sort of understood, but still disagreed, if he said Victory and Turn A. There's a very clear difference in Tomino's direction after the Early UC era. Watch Victory and 0079, it'd be hard to imagine it's the same guy.
To me, I could definitely tell that Tomino was directing more in the vein of Victory and Turn A than 0079, Zeta or ZZ. Let's not even talk about the movies, they're an entirely different subject.
>>13905647
if greci is similar to anything its xabungle
>>13905528
>It really isn't. It's a rehash of Zeta and Turn-A,
That doesn't contradict what I said. "Epitome" doesn't mean it's good, or the best, or most original - just that it's literally the best example of his writing. Whenever someone says "Tomino dialog", sure there are good examples scattered here and there in Zeta, but G-Reco is just Tomino incarnate.And I love it for it.
>>13902608
good
turn A
00
X
BF
G
bad
seed/destiny
wing
haven't seen anything else
Good: 0079, Zeta, Victory, G, X, 00
Mediocre: Wing, Seed, Seed Destiny
Bad: ZZ
Have not seen the rest
>there are people voting Zeta as good
>the same people voting 0079 as good
How can you like 0079 and still think Zeta is good?
>ZZ heavily mediocre
Oh, that explains it.
I thought, with the success of Macross 7, GGG, and TTGL around here /m/ didn't have too much of the shitty MUH GRITTY WAR DRAMA crowd. Guess I got brain damage.
>>13908376
Being a "gritty war drama" isn't Zeta's problem, it's the shit writing.
>>13902608
Where's the entry for IBO?
Good: 0079, ZZ, G, Turn-A
Mediocre: Build Fighters
Bad: Zeta, Wing
Haven't seen the rest
>>13908415
No, but it's the only reason I could see someone thinking Zeta was actually good.
>Zeta has more total Good votes than some series have total votes
I'm glad /m/ became a place of patrician tastes.
>>13908376
>Guess I got brain damage.
Certainly explains why you would think ZZ is anywhere near Zeta or even 0079 in terms of quality.
>>13908535
When you take into account the balance of bad and mediocre votes, 00 has a higher approval rating than Zeta.
>>13908555
Still good tastes, 00 is a fine series even at its worst.
>>13908548
>implying ZZ isn't a better sequel than Zeta
>implying Ghetto 0079 isn't mediocre at best
You're just not mature enough, but I guess that makes sense for a waifufag.
>>13905273
This
>>13908376
>How can you like 0079 and still think Zeta is good?
Because we can appreciate them for their good points even if they are different?
>>13908569
you have a fucking selective memory. 00 is exactly the same shit as Wing was, except even more wasted potential. IBO tier.
>>13908900
>different
>when Zeta is just a meandering 0079 but with drastically more inane exposition, the same character arcs repeated in-show, and mecha scenes that only look marginally better
I mean yeah, they're different, but I don't see how you could possibly appreciate those differences.
08th MS-Team is best UC-Gundam
>>13909417
Why?
>>13909417
No, no it wasn't.
>>13909125
0079 is a story about growing up, set as a gritty war drama about a bunch of kids in a world where the adults have all got themselves killed and taken half the world with them. It's about them coming to terms with the duties they've inherited and developing the emotional maturity needed to keep the people they care about safe, in a time where the mistakes they make get others killed.
Zeta is another story about growing up, but this time is more about choosing who you want to be in life. The focus is more on the range of 'young adults', teens to mid twenties - where 0079 was about becoming competent and emotionally mature enough to survive, Zeta is about deciding what to do with that competence even as the supposed emotional maturity is revealed only to mean that their problems are more 'adult' and complicated.
Your specific example of repeated plot arcs I'm guessing refers to Fa and Katz's stories being a rerun of Kamille's development, which I'd say is exactly the point. It's a contrast that shows how much Kamille has grown from being impulsive, emotional and reckless - and also shows as a warning how he could have gone wrong and gotten himself killed, as Katz does.
In my humble opinion, I think 0079 is by all means an incredible debut and one of the best mecha anime ever, but Zeta has to be Tomino's magnum opus. Perhaps I read too much into it, perhaps its because I'm seeing it through the eyes of someone currently witnessing the transition from childhood to adulthood through the awkward phase of the teens and twenties, but I believe these themes and allegories are there, that they've been woven in with skill and care, and that it makes Zeta not only good but significant.
>>13912463
So you think that Zeta is some kind of masterpiece because it contains a finger-wagging rebuke for children, telling them to not be bad? Is that your idea of a groundbreaking message?
You'll find these ideas expressed far more eloquently in even something like Spider-Man comics.
>>13912463
>Perhaps I read too much into it,
You did
/m/, where more people have seen Turn A and X than SEED and Destiny.
>>13908924
00 was nothing like Wing
>>13912613
/m/, like most of 4chan, is obsessed with charts and recommended anime. They only want to see the "good animes" or ones that people say are "obligatory", so they can feel like they belong to the community. Which is why you'll probably see that the most watched shows are most likely (I haven't check the polls) 0079, Zeta, CCA, 0080, Turn A and 00. No idea if X is that popular here, but if it was I would guess it's only because it's not too popular outside of /m/ (the hipster mentality - why G-Reco, Turn-A and 0079 are loved, while the popular shows like IBO, SEED, Wing, and Zeta are hated on)
>>13912621
Shut the fuck up you stupid tripcunt. You're a fucking retard if you think 00 is actually unique in anyway and didn't take major cues from SEED Destiny and Wing
>Durrandal fighting to end war and conflict by uniting the world against LOGOS
Celestial Being fighting to unite the world against itself
>protagonists (Kira/Lacus/Cagalli) fighting against all warring sides, PLANTs and the Earth Alliances, to stop the war
Celestial Being fighting both sides that are engaged conflicts at the start of 00 S1 when they start intervening
>Team of Gundam pilots without much relation to each other
Speaks for itself
>MC has a love/hate relationship at the start with Peace Princess; Heero/Relena
Marina/Setsuna
>Team fights among each other; Quatre with the ZERO system, lots of scenes with Wufei
Lockon threatening to kill Setsuna
>>13905299
That's probably a consequence of not as many people having seen Gainer. Most people who watch Tomino shows outside of the early Gundam works are his diehard fans that will eat up anything the old man shits out. But G-Reco was a modern mainstream Gundam series so it automatically reached outside of that fanbase to people who don't have the acquired taste that is Tomino and probably don't even care to know the name of the director of the show they're watching.
>>13912643
You're really reaching for some of those, like the Marina/Setsuna one, given that Setsuna never has a hate relationship with Marina. Then again, Heero never really has a hate relationship with Relena either. Relena likes Heero because he's mysterious and cool and a break from the stagnant normal life that she's dissatisfied with while Heero just kind of nothings Relena at the start since she's just a weird kid chasing him and he has better shit to be doing. Setsuna sees Marina as a mother figure almost from the start while she just sees him as a lost kid.
Lockon threatening to kill Setsuna is also not really anything like the Wing boy's refusal to work together as a team early on and instead actively getting in each others way at times or Quatre going nuts from the ZERO system. It's like saying that Athrun and Kira still having trouble getting on at the mid point of SEED is identical to or inspired by Garrod's rivalry with Carris or something. It's just a weird comparison.
>DUDE GENGDEM LMAO
Those who didn't vote "BAD" on all of the polls, might as well kill yourselves right now. You are everything wrong with this board.
Can we get polls for some of the OVA's as well. I would like to see 08th MS Team, Unicorn and Igloo.
>>13904772
But that's Turn A you fucking moron.
>>13912712
Best to wait until this thread dies before doing a new one for the OVAs/movies.
>>13912613
Why would you bother watching something you've heard is shit for years since its debut? Unless you want to torture yourself you'll probably avoid it.
>>13912501
It's about the presentation. Tomino never gives simple answers to simple questions.
>>13905088
>Bad
>X
>X
>worse than SEED or GSD
So you haven't seen any of these three
>>13914984
Oh, I definitely have, which is what's allowing me to actually have an opinion rather than spew the same ol' HURR DURR DESTINY SUCKS meme.
>people are actually voting G-Reco as good
This board is compromised.
I've gotta say, based on the results so far /m/ actually has pretty good Gundam taste, and threads filled with posts mostly attacking some of these series that are pretty overwhelming voted good are a few angry people.
I will simply never understand why you guys like Victory so much though.
Is it wrong that I like GBF more than almost any other actual gundam show?
>>13915123
I don't know where that meme came from. That anime was awful, the last good Gundam TV anime was 00, which is almost 10 years ago, and that is sad.
>>13915147
As the poll clearly shows, it's not a "meme".
Whether or not a Gundam show is "good" is completely opinionated, even SEED. Personally I thought G-Reco was okay, much better than 00 though which I found to be straight up garbage. Clearly, you feel the opposite. Not a big deal, not a meme, nothing but people having different views.
>>13902608
Turn A is probably the only Gundam TV series I'd call good on its own, but it's pretty underwhelming as a mecha action series. 0079 hasn't aged very well, but if we're comparing it to other shows of the same era I'd rank it a lot higher. G is fantastic as a goofy super and I love it dearly, but I can't call it a 'good' series. I thought SEED was okay but the drama was pretty poorly done and Destiny ruined most of my goodwill towards the franchise. 00 was assassinated by its own season two. Wing was my gateway so I can't be objective about it, but I don't think I could honestly recommend it to someone who is not already an anime/mecha fan. Zeta and ZZ were both okay, though they had their low points. I dropped AGE, I backlogged G-Reco, and I don't think Build Fighters should even be compared to the rest as they are an entirely different type of show.
>>13915179
No its pretty much a meme. People don't honestly like the show, it was fucking awful. People just pretend to like it cause /m/ has to be contrarian.
>>13915226
If that's what you have to convince yourself of to feel better about your taste, go for it man. That's some delusional stuff but who am I to tell you to do otherwise.
In the case that you are being sarcastic, the joke is on me.
>>13902608
Most of it seems to be about what I expected. Despite the vocal Zeta and G reco haters most of /m/ appears to think they're good overall (so do I).
What I didn't expect was how many people found AGE to be bad. I know it disappointed in it's second half/third arc but Bad (on the levels of Try and Destiny) is kind of weird to me.
>>13915208
> Turn-A is pretty underwhelming as a mecha action series
Personally I really enjoyed some of the battles and I probably recall more individual fights from there than I do from any other show. It is my favorite Gundam show though, so I suppose I'm predisposed too. Still, I thought Turn-A's use of the hyper hammers, the battle to defend the launching of the Will Game, the battle at Manupichi, the battle at Mistletoe, most of the Turn-X fights and the short battle on the Moon in the river were all memorable for various reasons and that there was a good amount of dynamic action spread throughout the show.
>>13915251
I find it weird that people think it's mediocre or even good, because to me it varies from mediocre to outright terrible and that terribleness isn't just confined to the last couple of episodes because Kio is far from the worst of it. I personally think it's worse than Destiny and maybe even Try, though I'd have to think about that one.
>>13915251
For some, I think it's a consistency thing.
I remember a while back people had argued that, side by side, Destiny had lower lows than AGE.
But at the same time, its highs were also higher.
So while AGE may not seem as big an offender, it still gets docked for (relative) lack of ambition/mediocrity.
>>13915255
I don't even consider it an action oriented series in the first place myself. But I agree, the action is generally great when it's there.
>>13915251
Hating AGE was the popular thing to do despite most people having never watched the show to form their own opinion of it.I thought it was ok.
>>13915279
I suppose I can understand it from that perspective. While it was pretty lacking in ambition/didn't do anything particularly interesting I thought it was solid despite some shoehorned dumb shit in the last arc.
I just never see as vocal hate for it as I see the others which is why I was so surprised.
>>13915179
>Personally I thought G-Reco was okay, much better than 00 though which I found to be straight up garbage.
This is such an impressive shit taste. I'm speechless.
>>13915306
AGE has definitely been better than IBO for me
Asemu is a great character and gen 2 was really enjoyable.
>>13915279
The first 13 or so episodes of Destiny are actually pretty good and had a lot of people enjoying the show when it aired, the next two dozen or so are okay and the last dozen or so are shitty. It still has 13 genuinely good episodes, which is a good bit more than I think AGE managed to scrape together in it's whole run personally, since most of the show was boring as hell. The only episodes I thought were genuinely good were the opening 2 episodes of Kio's arc, which almost felt like a different show. I think it also had lower lows than Destiny, in things like having it's final enemy introduced at the very last minute and given no personality, motivation or character of his own while the actual real enemy gets off scott free and the mysterious girl who Flit meets that has similar powers to him never having her background expanded (she really should have been a Vagan, there's literally no point in her character existing otherwise) - instead the show kills her for the sake of cheap drama. Shit's just bad.
>>13915326
I prefer Flit personally. I found Asemu kind of annoying and his character went off the deep end in gen 3.
>>13915339
>there's literally no point in her character existing otherwise
Sadly there is, but only from a purely arbitrary storytelling standpoint.
One of the reasons I was surprised at how many people were broken up when Yurin died. From the first time she graced the screens, I could tell she had 'sacrificial lamb/tragic love interest' written all over her.
>>13915360
See, I don't even mind her being a tragedy character, because yea, we all knew that was coming even if some people didn't want it, but there's no point killing her until after Flit finds out she's a Vagan and he has to wrestle with that information because doing so before that point just makes her a pointless character since Flit's family had already died to the Vagan and any one of the people on the ship could have died to send him over the edge in to his "I'm a failed savior" mindset. There's really no reason it had to be Yurin, and making it her was just a waste of narrative potential.
I know Destiny is shit and everyone hates it, but does the original SEED have enough closure to deserve a watch?
>>13912643
>Celestial Being fighting to unite the world against itself
So that humanity is united with its eventual contact with aliens, besides Durandal tried uniting the world by directing their hatred towards something else. CB made themselves the common enemy of the world, it's different.
>Celestial Being fighting both sides that are engaged conflicts at the start of 00 S1 when they start intervening
Again its different, if you only look at the surface do they have any resemblance.
>Team of Gundam pilots without much relation to each other
Like G? They don't even operate as a team for the first half of the show, CB can clearly be called a team and have a base of operations and regularly communicate and delegate targets.
>Marina/Setsuna
Reaching, they don't have a love/hate relationship, or even a romantic relationship they have a mutual understanding.
>Lockon threatening to kill Setsuna
Like G? He threatens just Setsuna, and never follows through with it. You might have actually had something if you mentioned the fighting with Team Trinity. You're not even trying, just like you skimmed a review, or an article without even having seen the source material.
>>13918260
The first half of SEED is ok and a poor man's 0079, it starts to fall apart once it goes OC around episode 30.
It has closure and the final battle is pretty hype if you ignore the retarded plot and the antagonists' motivations.
>>13912463
Actually, the message of Zeta is "if you beat an autistic child hard enough, he'll magically eventually turn into a functional adult".
>Me, and 8 other people said AGE was good.
>>13904083
The poll forces you to make choices. Stark choices. Pick the answer which is most accurate, whether or not there is an answer which is correct. If you are having trouble picking the most accurate choice, don't vote on that one right away. Leave it for later or not at all.
>>13904707
All sensible people do, yes.
>>13912721
>you fucking moron
Are you furiously defending x or unreasonably mad because people like turn A?
>>13902608
Weird way of doing it.
>>13921762
seems to have worked pretty well though to be honest family
I thought I was the only person who thought G Reco was good.I thought most people on /m/ hated it.
>>13902608
What happened between the first GBF and Try?
>>13922136
Nothing. They're both mediocre kids' shows, but liking the first one is a meme.
>>13908569
Season 1 is.
Season 2 is almost Destiny level for me.
>>13912501
no
Zeta is the best because they killed the main villain by flying into him with a plane while cool music plays.
>>13912501
It's very enjoyable
>>13922136
Original Build Fighters was generic tournament shounen but with well animated+choreographed fights, cool homages to the rest of the franchise and fairly lovable characters
TRY was rushed out on a years notice and had stock footage up the ass, botched the few returning characters from the original, and all the new characters were all just there to have boners for the MC
>>13921914
>I thought most people on /m/ hated it.
Nah, it was the shitpost target of some vocal, committed guy like valvrager and the other dude who keeps calling people zetafags
>>13922764
>some vocal, committed guy
>and the other dude
You seriously think only two people didn't like that train wreck?
>>13922778
>You seriously think only two people didn't like that train wreck?
I didn't even imply that lol, RIP reading comprehension
Were you not around when the catalog was flooded with "what went wrong" and ANN articles every night? I'm saying it was that guy who made the hatebase seem waaaay bigger than it actually was. The
>>13922793
>state that it was the shitpost target of two people
>get called on that bullshit
>insult, "are you new here?", damage control
Whatevs, man.
There were plenty of trolls on both sides. The fact that saying it was a masterpiece was as effective a troll as saying it was a total clusterfuck is clear indication that its reception was widely divided.
>>13922820
The first guy said he thought MOST people hated it, I said it seemed that way because certain guys were dedicated af to going nuts about it
You're getting the wrong end of the stick mate stop trying to act smart
>>13922839
You need to learn to speak (type) more clearly, then. Because you didn't say that some "guys were dedicated af to going nuts" (what the hell does that even mean?), you said it was two people.
And you should already be aware of how often the "almost everyone likes it, all negative posts are one or two people samefagging" approach is taken, ESPECIALLY in regards to Reco, so I don't really see why you feel the need to defend your lack of clarity.
Oh, wait...
>G-Reco
>defending lack of clarity
my fault for falling for it.
carry on, then.
>>13922874
Lol you don't even know what af means
Go be stupid somewhere else I'm not writing you a fucking sparknotes page for a 4chan post
>>13922903
>i'm gonna speak like an unintelligible baboon
>is surprised when not everyone is a baboon
Well played.
>>13902608
>G
>X
>G-Reco
>good
Well meme'd, /m/!
>>13923394
g and x were good
Once IBO is done,we should do another poll but include every Gundam series.
>>13915306
>>13915326
Reminder AGE gave us this, so totally worth it.
If you group the mediocre and bad votes as "not good" votes, G-Reco is practically 50/50. Seems consistent with the amount of shit flinging in the threads.
So at least it seems that people are voting honestly.
>>13915125
Victory has the most balls of any gundam series. It's not afraid to show war as the grimiest, filthiest, most appalling thing imaginable that ruins the lives of the winners just as much as it does the losers.
>>13925544
>>13925544
No, actually, it's pretty tame. A children's show really. But it takes the limits of a children's show pretty far, all things considered.
Now, for real war, I recommend just forgetting about it. Neither anime nor TV entertainment will capture that.
so can we all agree victory is the best
>/m/ hating on wing just because it is/was popular
>perfectly acceptable war story and character development
>good suit design
>only real bad things are pacing/recap episodes and some reused animation early on
Fucking hipsters.
>>13925692
Wing doesn't do anything well, apart from the soundtrack. The show doesn't do nearly enough with its 50 episode length, either in plot or character building, and the animation is fucking terrible. God, even the endlessly repeated stock footage looks like shit.
>>13925692
It was mediocre and don't deny it. Maybe if the entire story revolved around Treize instead of the Gundam pilots it would be good, but as it stands, mediocre.
>>13925692
>>perfectly acceptable war story and character development
>>13925739
treize was only interesting because you saw so little of him and whenever you did, it was just him being classy
there ain't enough to support a full series of him because once they start writing more stuff for his character to do, it'll fail
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>>13923394
>X
>Bad
Does SEED really deserve such a negative response? I'm 7 episodes in and it seems perfectly fine so far.
>>13926490
Just keep watching and you'll understand.
>>13902877
More like 4-6 - mediocre. 7 is well on the way to the good end of the scale.
>>13926593
That people here are fags. SEED IS BEST
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LByr0LK.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>13915306
I could never hate a show that has a character named Don Voyage.
Plus it had some pretty cool mech designs.
>>13926490
Honestly original SEED is mediocre, not bad. Destiny is where it all turns to an irredeemable pile of shit that you will wish you had never watched SEED.
>>13902608
Where is Thunderbolt? What, you don't like war?
>>13928749
still airing.
>>13915306
I don't think that AGE is that bad, but that Kio man.
I've never seen one character ruin a series so quickly.
>>13902608
the majority of the voters think that g reco is good
>>13925692
It was mediocre but I do agree that it gets too much hate here because of the hipster nature of the board.
