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Episode 16: Fumitan Admoss
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That's not Fumitan anymore.
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>>13795194
She will always be Fumitan in our hearts.
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>>13795191
>not "FUMITAN ADIOS"
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>>13795226
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Not a big loos, we still have a whole ship of other nice ladies.
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>>13795260
Azee X Akihiro best pairing, even if Lafter spends more time kicking his shit in
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>>13795282
Yes.
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>>13795260
>>13795289
I wish the show would actually spend some time with them. I get the feeling theyre probably going to start dropping like flies towards the ends and it will expect us to care despite despite giving us nothing to care about other than their looks. And this whole harem thing as well, you'd think after introducing something like that, the show might have shown a bit exploring the dynamics of that relationship. Its been roughly ten episodes since that explanation and if it wasnt for naze actually telling us that theyre part of his harem i would never have known any of the crew except for amida were his wives. I cant even recall a scene where naze ever talks to azee
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>>13795408
I don't even remember the big-titty one is called Amida.
Well, at least our dicks will care.

>>13795260
Go away Kamiyama and Hayashida
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>>13795260
>tfw Akihiro is too gay for that
>tfw you were not there instead

>>13795191
It was obvious from the beginning.
Sudden change of course reminded me of Tytania, where nothing happened half way through the series.
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>>13795191
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>>13795194
Hontou no koto sa!
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Power Levels in the game
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Screenplay: Shinsuke ONISHI
Stroryboard: Yoshimitsu OHASHI
Director: Shun KUDOU
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>>13795723
What's with the lack of chest armour? I hope the cockpits not in there.
If this really was a suit developed at the end of the calamity war I can see why it ended shortly after
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>>13795723
Grimgerde model number is: V08-1228. It's the eighth Valkyria Frame unit from 9 total.
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>>13795758
HAHAHAHHAHAAHAAAAAHAHHHHHA
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>>13795731

>halfbake that much higher than frog ver.

fucking shit

rest is what you'd expect though
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>>13795723

this is not a valvrave thread
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>>13795772
It's Wagner "Ride of the Valkyries".
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>>13795772
You're right, if it were we'd be complaining about too much happening in too short a time.
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>>13795260
>>13795289
>character that just happened to be onscreen for 2 minutes
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>>13795723
Why does it look so plain and boring?
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>>13795721
Leg armor makes it look as if there is a knee joint missing.
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>>13795260
Is it wrong that I like Akihiro's little dynamic with Lafter than Space Fellini's dynamic with her? Amida and Fellini are fine, but Lafter just clicks better with Aki in my mind.
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>>13795845

fuck off spamshit
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>>13795191

It is a pity that IBO (or basically most Gundam for that matter) now has 1 OP/ED per cour, otherwise we could have ORPHEEEEENS, NAMIDA~ playing when Fumitan died in Kudelia's arms
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I just started 00 and holy shit, it's good! I'm glued to the screen from the first minutes. Things are happening, robots are fighting, designs are interesting, characters are pretty. No wonder you guys think ibo is boring, it's just my fault for forgetting how good anime should look and feel.
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>>13795902
That'd have sold the scene even more. Imagine Fumitan dying to the first notes of OOOORPHEEENS NAMIDAAAA's extended version.
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>>13795902
Any 50 episode Gundam except for SEED and AGE had an OP change only after the 2nd cour, or halfway through
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>>13795731
>Kimaris is going to job so fucking hard
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>>13795908
Oh boy your going to be crushed once Season 2 comes along.
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>>13795943
he can imagine that it ends at season 1
I mean it kinda can since the world is "united" in a sense even if it's under neo titans
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>>13795908

00 has its fair share of flaws, some more forgivable than others, but it most definitely blows IBO out of the water in every way imaginable.
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>>13795758
11/10
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>>13795721
Hidden face makes it look like a suped up Leo, what with the green face panel & beige coloring.
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>>13795723
That's a motherfucking SOLBRAVE.
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Wait a minute.
>IBO is actually coming overseas
>IBO might be getting a second season
>IBO places very well in polls
>IBO sells well
>/m/ still thinks it's unsuccessful

Literally what in the fuck?
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>>13796079
/m/ has been always wrong since Wrong Tetsujin happened.
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>>13795943
that's going to depend on if he watched other Gundam yet. Otherwise that jarring change won't be as noticeable without some other Gundams to compare against.
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>>13796079
>MIka ranked above Saitama
well,well I didn't know it was that popular in Japan. Makes you wonder,would IBO have replaced OPM as the show of the season had it not aired?
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>>13795911

And then I would end up laughing at the scene like a terrible person since I always feel that ORPHEEEEEENS NAMIDA~ is one of those "over the top dramatic" songs

>>13796079

Being commercially successful is irrelevant to /m/ since IBO doesn't pander to /m/ hard enough
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>>13796110
It doesn't pander to /m/ at all.
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>>13796079
>>13796104
Even A.Z characters, Ange and the girl from Akuma no Riddle ranked every month there.
Guess what? That means jack shit. Those polls are rigged.
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>>13795908
It goes waaaaaaaaay down hill once the Thrones show up.
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>>13796104
>well I didn't know it was that popular in Japan
GBF and GBF Try girls never ranked. And yet they were among the most popular during the seasons.
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>>13795408

Well they need an enemy villainess to catfight with.

Surprisingly enough, a bunch of female human debris pilots would make a nice counterpoint to Teiwaz's crew. Whereas Naze cares about his harem, the leader of the female human Debris treats his girls like shit and we get a post rape scene just to show much of a bastard he is and the female villainess is nothing more than political marriage between Gjallarhorn to keep him loyal.
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>>13796150
Didn't we do this already?

But with fuccbois?
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>>13796079
nearly every gundam mc ends up on that poll. It's for NEWTYPE magazine, what do you expect?
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>>13796079
Awwww, you can believe it want to anon
In glad someone still has hope
won't stop the show being shit though ;__;
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>>13796079
SEED is stupidly successful and we hate that too.
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She doesn't even deserve to be in the title of the episode
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>>13795908
And suddenly S2 happens.
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>>13796079
>IBO is actually coming overseas
Like most Gundam
>IBO might be getting a second season
Nice meme
>IBO places very well in polls
Like most Gundam
>IBO sells well
Half off with promo code first volume.
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>>13796275
>IBO is actually coming overseas
he meant the dubbing,outside of ova's this will be the first mainline show dub in the west since 00.
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>>13796079
>>13796175
I was referring to the series poll. Not the character ones.

>>13796185
>>13796186
Never said it was good. It is successful though.

>>13796275
I'm sorry, did AGE or G-Reco get dubbed or even released here?
>Like most Gundam
Unless it's G-Reco, apparently.
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>>13795721

>Hidden face
>Giant shield
>Two handed axe
>Hidden arms
>Unusual beige color scheme

This is a legitimately great Gundam
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>>13796297
>It is successful though.
Is it though?
http://itest.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/shar/1451483978/156
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>>13796347
Yes.
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All I wanted was for Fumitan and Kudelia to make out.
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>>13796333
Ugly legs and feet, but yes, everything else is great.
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>>13796333
this,I don't know why people are complaining since we rarely get unique looking gundams like this too often.
I like it a lot because of its resemblance to Armored Cores
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>>13796347
>>13796355
> AGE Gen 1 Average = 3.22%
> AGE's Final Average = 2.56%
> IBO's ratings after 13 episodes = 2.55%
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>>13796368
How are the sales doing?
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so this guy knows who kudelia is but not the gayhorn guys?
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>>13796155

Still, if you want girl on girl action. You need an evil version of Turbine's harem. Also great for drama and since all of the bad guys are irredeemable bastards who we have little pity for.

But then again, the only reason why they made Marida a prostitute was the lore's way to ensure she is unable to continue the Puru lineage through plot. The prostitution part was a way to show how heavily indoctrinated she was in a slave mindset
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>>13796606
>Still, if you want girl on girl action. You need an evil version of Turbine's harem. Also great for drama and since all of the bad guys are irredeemable bastards who we have little pity for.

Well, they'll just exist to show that adults are pieces of shit and die horribly like the boys did, so, dunno. Done, really.
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>>13796620
>>>13796606 (You)
>>Still, if you want girl on girl action. You need an evil version of Turbine's harem. Also great for drama and since all of the bad guys are irredeemable bastards who we have little pity for.
>Well, they'll just exist to show that adults are pieces of shit and die horribly like the boys did, so, dunno. Done, really.

Hmmm, needs drama, well maybe one of them is pregnant with the evil guy's child and a dilemma is made in killing her or not as the main plot issue. Does Mika have the nerve to murder a pregnant young girl?
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>>13796512
man i wish this show wasnt so shit
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>>13796655
>Hmmm, needs drama, well maybe one of them is pregnant with the evil guy's child and a dilemma is made in killing her or not as the main plot issue. Does Mika have the nerve to murder a pregnant young girl?

Well, one, putting someone who is pregnant on a battlefield is stupid even for IBO's hilariously ham-fisted adult villains.

Two, Mika has shown no compunction or hesitation in killing anyone, so I guess the question's answered anyway.
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>>13796662
>Kudelia's chin
Christ, this QUALITY.
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>>13796370
First volume is at 11k but keep in mind it was half off and came with a promo code, second volume comes out this week so we should see a significant drop.
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>>13796286
>he meant the dubbing
AGE and GBF were dubbed
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>>13796670
its a shop anon
i wish i could shop away all of ibos actual quality
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>>13796297
>I'm sorry, did AGE or G-Reco get dubbed or even released here?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tLI_d8dz8DI

Also G-Reco is getting released in the US and UK.
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>>13796368
AGE is better than IBO.
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>>13796688
but that wasn't released outside of malaysia to my understanding,
the fact that their getting a proper one for the west shows they're trying to make a push for it here again.
by the way have you seen the BF dub? I tried looking a while back but couldn't find it
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>>13796297
>even released here?
G-Reco is coming to USA in spring and UK in June.
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>>13796706
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2eoxiq_proof-of-concept-gundam-build-fighters-dub_tv
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>>13796747
I'm pretty sure this is a fandub
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>>13796706
the whole push for the west was announced before the show aired
the dub was was announced byt about episode 3 when the hype was still alive
i bet banrise is bricking it now
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>>13796370
The 1st vol. sales 11,335
The 2nd vol. sales are going to be known next week.
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>>13796667

The point is to drive a wedge between Teiwaz and Tekkadan
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>>13796821

What wedge is there to make from killing enemies of both parties?
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>>13795191

TR8R
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>>13796830

By showing how inhumane Mika has become. That he kills pregnant women, sociopathic behavior.
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>>13796896

Well, hey, if the hypothetical enemy in this scenario is stupid enough to send out a pregnant girl to fight, they were kind of asking for it.
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>>13796896
>he kills pregnant women
Memories of AvP Requiem are coming back.
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>>13796918
Why the fuck would you say that.
Now my repressed memories of that pile of shit are coming back.
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>>13795758
Pahahaha
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>>13795943
>>13796248

Season 2 isn't even that bad faggot
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i feel sorry for the snapfags when they get their hands on this, its going to be one big tan block
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>>13796896
How's he supposed to know they're pregnant, though? Are they going around announcing over comms or something?
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>>13796956
A shield to take care of Kimaris's mace
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>>13796989

That is up to Okada to deliver. I am just the one with an idea for how to create a female villain
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>>13797201

Well, really, it's less that and more opportunities to show people being rapist scumbags, isn't it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liuaVmzv-Q0
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>>13796947
It's fucking terrible.
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>>13796896
If anything he has become more humane. He executed cuffed guys to prove a point. He shot Crank without a second thought. Now he's questioning if he's a sociopath and acting relatively normal. He didn't even go apeshit when Atra got beat up to garner sympathy like he did with Cookie and Cracker.
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>tfw your first appearance is of you jobbing
>tfw you probably won't be getting a gunpla
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>>13797346
Poor Man Rodi
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>>13795908
Sorry for talking about 00 again instead of IBO, but I just got to the second op, and I swear to god, I've heard it somewhere before. Was it only used as 00 op? Never in any other anime?
Also, nadleeh was fucking amazing.
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>>13796947


Gundam 00 did basically everything right and people still find problems with it..
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>>13795191

>Let's shake hands!
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>>13797343
>Now he's questioning if he's a sociopath and acting relatively normal.

Bearing in mind that only a scant handful of episodes ago, his only reaction to being called out on perhaps enjoying killing other people was essentially 'Eh, whatever, this guy's a piece of shit, fuck the kids I've killed, he's good to die anyway.'
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>>13795191
I want to cum inside that small hole on her back
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>>13797392
>pass the controller bro!
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>>13795191

>They just left her body there

Wow

Cold as ice
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>>13797405
it's not Fumitan anymore, so why not
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>>13797393
But he's certainly not any more murderous in what he does. Only in greater quantity.
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>>13795758
fuken saved
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>>13796696
Wow. That sounds... fucking awful.
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>>13797458
It always does.
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>>13795191
>>13797405
>YFW Buiscuit brother will rescue Fumitan
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>>13796947
It ain't, it's just the spergs here who think it sucks that much.
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>>13795758

At this point it must be a running joke in the animation staff.
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>>13796918
That was simply the best scene
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>>13797553
You think they're adding QUALITY shots just to spite anyone who's still watching?
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>>13795191
Dropped.
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>>13797564

It's my only hope, I'm only finishing this because at this point why not?
This is a pretty weak season anyway, watching Votoms and Patlabor afterwards to wash the bad taste out of my mouth.
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>>13795758
>>13797553
>At this point it must be a running joke in the animation staff.
Funny enough, as a kid I once watched a random episode of Gundam, I think it was Zeta? Anyway, I was annoyed that there was no giant robot battle the entire episode, it was all just talking.

I am amused that here we are, years later, and we have Gundam fans complaining that there isn't enough giant robots. I though we are old enough to actual want "plot" in our shows now? I was in primary school at the time and didn't see the point of a show without fighting, but does /m/ feel this way still?
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>>13797587
But we do want plot in our show, this one's shit so the only thing to look forward for is giant robots.
Turn A isn't one of the highest regarded Gundams for nothing
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>>13797587
Having a plot is acceptable, or even preferable, if it's good. But IBO is written horribly. And that's a problem.
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>>13797587
> I think it was Zeta? Anyway, I was annoyed that there was no giant robot battle the entire episode
That didn't happen. Zeta is one of the most MotW Gundams ever. Every episode has at least three minutes of "Oh and then they fought Jerid and co. in space I guess."
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>>13797577
>I'm only finishing this because at this point why not?
I know the feeling. If this wasn't Gundam, I probably would've dropped it already.
It's just such a wet fart.

>>13797587
> I though we are old enough to actual want "plot" in our shows now?
You said it yourself, though, anon: "plot".
There's all these pretensions to some amazing plot or intriguing characters, but they all fall short. This show is sort of making me understand what it was like to be on the other side of the G-Reco threads.
I don't know why I bother visiting these threads, honestly. I know I'll only add negativity for those scant few who earnestly enjoy it. I guess there's just a part of me that hopes it could become something better.
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please let the next episode be entirely in space

I just want to see a Gundam fight

pls
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>>13797587
You are missing the point. An episode breather would be fine. After a large battle a small break in the action would be cool and it could be used to advance the plot and develop the characters. IBO has shit plot, shit characters and shit fights. The battles we have gotten are essentially slideshows and never large. The plot isn't good or very well developed so taking 3 whole episodes off from fighting to try and advance it is stupid. How far as the plot advanced in these 3 episodes? Not very. We just spent a whole episode about a character they killed off. Fumitan should have been developed over multiple episodes. Instead they shove her motives into the last leg of the show and expect people to care. Most of the characters have literally been standing around this whole arc. The cast is so big that they could never get everybody enough screentime. Harem master and his bitches are useless. They don't do shit.
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>>13797645
>ow far as the plot advanced in these 3 episodes? Not very. We just spent a whole episode about a character they killed off
This is very true. So little can happen in an episode but then they insert one big thing (usually towards the end as a shocking what will happen next) so people feel stuff happened. And this is what people that like the show focus on, it's like they forget 20 minutes of fuck all to focus on 4 minute of stuff kind of happening. I've actually started watching the show while i browse tumblr and it is easy to watch for it as you miss the shit animation and people repeating they must go do the thing now.
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>>13797645
>Harem master and his bitches are useless. They don't do shit.
They were the worst addition to the story. All its added is plot convenience. We'll never get to see orga and pals explore or learn about the world they're in or even themselves because there's always either naze or the blonde milf to explain everything.
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>>13797645
I feel you so much dude. Went on reddit to see what they thought and everyone is bumsucking the new episode praising it for being so sad whilst ignoring how shitty the writing is.

I then posted the thing about IBO being a show without mechs and got this autist's response

(User is 'Smoothidiot')

>The focus is on the characters, not the Mobile Suits, as it should be.

Speaks for itself really, only a few people were sane and saying how shit this series has become
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>>13797760
>posting on /e/chochamber
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>>13797760
>World building

Call him out on that shit. There is no world building, there is no character development. Holy shit people are delusional.
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>>13797791
There's not even anything interesting visually for us to chew on either. Doesn't help that that half the series has been spent on a ship
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>>13797760
People are really stupid. There has been no character development or world building, only flying through space with no reason.
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>>13797760
>Not the Mobile Suits

HOLY SHIT, Gundam is a platform to sell toys.
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>>13797791
>it's not development because it makes too much sense

Stick to G-Reco, Tomino.
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I think we need more exposition guys.
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>>13797846
The fuck are you talking about? How much of the world has been built? Where is our development? How much do we know about Mars, Earth and the colonies that we didn't know from the start?
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>>13797864
Stick to Rectangles, Earthfaggot.
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>>13797864
This. It's amazing how a series that spends so much time on exposition can have such a vaguely established setting.
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>>13797846
>>13797866
Shitpost all you want anon, It's not going to make ibo any better. Or this board
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>>13797612
>That didn't happen. Zeta is one of the most MotW Gundams ever. Every episode has at least three minutes of "Oh and then they fought Jerid and co. in space I guess."
All I remember was that Bright was in it. It was many years ago, and obviously a bored kid wasn't going to remember any details.
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ZZ was an example of world building. It explored multiple colonies and various parts of Earth. Unlike 90% of mech shows they actually went to Africa instead of just Japan, Europe and America. I always thought that was nice. What was even nicer was that there were black pilots in Africa. IBO's Africa branch literally was all blond haired white guys when they were shown.
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>>13797888
You know not everyone in the continent of Africa is black, right?
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>>13797892
Sure, but most of it is and it's nice when most of the continent is acknowledged instead of just the horn.
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>>13797598
Contrarianism is pretty popular here on /m/. We love to love the less popular entries, while shitting all over all of the popular ones.
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>>13798061
Yeah anon i dislike IBO because it's popular and Turn A is my favorite Gundam because it's obscure.
How about you just try to defend your points instead of just trying to validate your taste
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>>13797864
Now consider how much of the exposition has been revealed by characters vocalizing or confirming information they should already know.

>Alaya-Vijnana system? You mean the...
>Calamity War? You mean the war that happened 300 years ago and led to the creation of Gjallarhorn...
Repeat as necessary whenever the audience needs a new info dump.
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>>13798081
I don't give a shit what you like or dislike, I'm talking about /m/ as a whole.

You think /m/ doesn't suck Turn A and G-Reco's dicks? You think /m/ doesn't love shitting all over 0079, Zeta, Wing, SEED, SEED Destiny, 00, Unicorn, and IBO? Maybe you should hang around here for more than a week.
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>>13798096
hello i am /m/
gundam evolve is my favorite gundam
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>>13798100
Oh so it's just a coincidence that two of the least successful Gundam series (not counting obscure shit, although SEED Astray is pretty popular too) are two of the most popular on /m/, and all of the popular Gundam series are unpopular on /m/. Purely coincidence, eh?
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>>13795723

It looks like someone took parts from the Tallgeese and a Brave and painted the result pink.
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>implying it's not going to be constant action for the rest of the season
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>>13798133
So why don't we love ZZ?
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>>13796079

4chan real rule number 1: always do/think the opposite of what [insert board here] says.
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>>13797888
pretty sure every single gundam series goes to Africa or some arab desert shit with a sandniggers resistance
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>>13798144

It's not.

We'll get one shoddily-animated ten minute long battle next episode followed by three episodes of talking heads then another shoddily-animated ten minute battle, just like it has been for the entire series so far.
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>>13798146
Is ZZ really unpopular? It got the second-highest TV ratings in the entire franchise IIRC, and the gunpla sells well to this day.
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>>13798133
Do you also complain that there are people who like Kurosawa more than Michael Bay?
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>>13798164
Do you think they'll mix it up for the second season?
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>>13798170
Nah, I complain when somebody says that Nymphomaniac is their favorite movie because of how smart it is while they then proceed to shit on any and all popular movies for being 'inferior'.
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>>13798164
you can't take away my hope
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>>13798175

Sure. Season two we'll get FOUR episodes of talking heads before a shoddily-animated ten minute battle.
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>>13798193
at least gundam isn't 100% cgi

yet
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>>13798182
That's an oddly specific example.

Someone specific set you off?
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>>13798193
Why even have mobile suit battles in the first place? Those annoying robots just detract from IBO's otherwise brilliant character-driven drama.
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I dunno why people are so surprised about IBO going episodes without any mech combat. Same thing happened in M3, Okada's previous mech show. Of course, I think hardly anyone watched M3.
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>>13798202
Nah, that's just generally how shit goes here on /m/.

People will be having a discussion, then somebody forces the topic to be about an overhyped mediocre "2smart4u" work by a 'genius', and they then proceed to shit on whatever is doing better.
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>>13798215
People are spoiled for action.

I think even Gasaraki outdoes IBO in total battle averages. Gasaraki, the definitive slow burning mecha anime, is more action packed than IBO. That's some bullshit ain't it?
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>>13798219
Why are you so fucking butthurt
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>>13798240
>redditspeak
This conversation is over
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>>13798201

Maybe that thing wouldn't need what I assume is an extra set of supports on its back if its feet weren't so comically small.

Otherwise, that design isn't too bad.
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>>13798243
Wow, seems like you are the butthurt one. Go eat some tendies and go to bed.
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>>13798245
cgi in anime is so shit
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>>13798243
So much hate
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>>13798260
The hell does that have to do with what that anon said?
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>>13797837
>Calamity War 300 years ago
>All the armies in the world being absorbed by Gjallahorn
>Nations are now useless, so they put up four economic blocs
>Gjallahorn keeps the status quo for centuries, repressing any form of protest

>The area close to Earth is called the Earth Sphere and is guarded by the elite Gjallahorn army
>The area beyond is called the Outer Sphere and it's a lawless area where space yakuza such as Teiwaz have their way.
>The clusters of debris in-between the Sphere is populated by space pirates, that's why no-one can get through unless they're Gjallahorn or sponsorised by Teiwaz

>Mars has been terraformed and serves as a giant factory for Earth.
>The planet is divided in several regions which are tied to a single economic block from Earth.
>Everything is supervised by the local Gjallahorn but theiur are corrupt and incomptetent
>The Chryse region is on the verge of getting independance if Kudelia Aina Bernstein, daugter of the Prime Minister, get an audience with Arbrau's leader
>Gjallahorn, whose purpose is to maintain the status quo for eternity, doesn't want this
>But some people inside and outside Gjallaorn are plotting to shake the entire system

>Kudelia chose to travel to Earth with a PMC from Chryse, but it was disbanded after a skimrish with Gjallahorn and is now run by former child soldiers under the name "Tekkadan"
>Tekkadan leader wants to create an Outer Heaven for child soldiers ala Big Boss from MGS
>Tekkadan also got its hands on a special weapon from the Calamity War called the Gundam Barbatos
>This Mobile uit ois compatible with a special device called Alana-Vijana which enhance the pilot capabilities and actually explains why he's so much better than other Mobile Suits

It may not be Tolkien's level of worldbuiding but it is nontheless. at least it makes way more sense than G-Reco's space elevator being worshipped by faggots.
Also remember than most of UC's worldbuilding was done after the original 0079 broadcast.
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>>13798245
>an extra set of supports on its back
Oddly placed wings.
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>>13798308
You literally made all of that up. IBO doesn't have any worldbuilding. /m/ told me so.
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>>13798245
>>13798201
it looks like a muv luv mech
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>>13795758
At least it wasn't

"High School Hijinx!"
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>>13798348

>Mika and his 2 hot lady friends have accidentally boarded a gay orphan space cruise! But everything changes when michael jackson shows up with his harem, and then the whole gang is chased by the pedophile police! Tune in each week to see them putz around in space, cook potatoes, and tell sad stories.

>Guest Starring: Deactivated robots in hangars!
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>>13798308
Not the same guy, but G-Reco's worldbuilding is far better. Almost everything you listed in your post you learn within like the first 5 episodes. G-Reco slowly reveals the world as the plot moves along.
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>>13795194
That was never Fumitan since Fumtian isn't real
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>>13798406
The problem with Reco is what we didn't see sounded much more interesting than what we did see. IBO has that problem too but WAY worse.
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>>13797760
Looks like most people are agreeing with you except SmoothIdiot. Also fuck off.
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>>13798438
What do you mean? I thought Venus Globe was cool as shit.
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>>13797864
We have a map. And earth people lives in water cities which is pretty cool. That's about it.
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>>13798450
It was pretty cool but it bugged me how a lot of it was just WATER WATER WATER like a typical gundam setting. Reco is on my rewatch list though so it's not fair to bitch too much.
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IBO is like your life where it starts off with potential and then you just end up sitting in the same room all the time talking to the same idiots about how hard and bad everything is and the robots just sit there next to you not moving
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The only AUs with good worldbuilding were 00 and X (also any tomino gundam)
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>>13798457
It's a lot of fun to rewatch. I did it recently and had a blast.
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>>13798459
I miss A/Z
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>>13798459
>IBO is like your life where it starts off with potential and then you just end up sitting in the same room all the time talking to the same idiots about how hard and bad everything is and the robots just sit there next to you not moving
It sort of explains why the original Gundam as Gundam Seed use the "ship gets chased across the planet and hunted" formula. It justifies a fight every episode.
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>>13795723
>valkyrie
>mfw it can transform
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Well shit now we'll never get a threesome with Mikazuki, Kudelia and Fumitan.
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>>13798485
>It sort of explains why the original Gundam as Gundam Seed use the "ship gets chased across the planet and hunted" formula. It justifies a fight every episode.

they also used the constant battles for character development, mika has gotten fucking none we barely even know the kid

compare this to amuro or kira where they're going crazy at this point in the show from the pressure of war
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>>13798533
I liked Mika since he looked like 3rd coming of Heero/Setsuna, and was cute and has a good looking gundam (in promo), he didn't go anywhere though.
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>>13798541
I love mika he's completely chill until you threaten one of his friends and he's not edgy about killing people, he just does it. Shame he has had the least character development of any character on his own show
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>>13798558

>mashed potatoes
>what appears to be meatballs and baked beans
>assorted chopped vegetables
>Spam? and asparagus

It's... hearty, that's for sure.
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>>13798541
4th coming, Sven was Heero #2, Setsuna was Heero #3
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>>13798565
Could be ham or corned beef
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>>13798565
don't forget the OJ. Most gundam protags just get space bars
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>>13798558
WHY IS HIS COAT SO BIG
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>>13798586
He stole it from the adults he executed.
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>>13798558
this is one of the most detailed stills in IBO
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>>13798639
everyone else has fitted coats though
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>>13798467
No you don't
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>>13798657
Mika has one too. But it's the looting off the bloody corpses that makes them better.
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>on a super secret mission
>walk around everywhere flashing your insignia
>nobody notices anyway
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>>13796333
Its a shame the HG 1/144 is a stickerfest with no face gimmick.

Hopefully the 1/100 version is much better
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>>13795721
I like how the hidden face looks like the Graze Kai's head.
>>13796366
>this,I don't know why people are complaining since we rarely get unique looking gundams like this too often.
It's because it's a unique-looking gundam.
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>>13798240
>to be honest family

Are we really just fucking /v/ now?
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>>13799100
>now
Someone seems to be late to the party
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In regards to the songs, I can understand Survivor, but how is STEEL -Tetsu no Kizuna- not like here?
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So will Kudelia finally man the fuck up?
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>>13799358
People don't hate the new ending. They hate that it replaced an amazing song that fit the show. Think about it. Fumitan's death would have been way better if set to Orphans Namida. I like the new ending but it doesn't compare to the first.
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>>13799407

No.
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>>13799419

Okay then, thanks.

In regards to "That's not Fumitan anymore", I get that the original Japanese is "Mou Fumitan ja nai"?
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>>13795758
I shouldn't have laughed so hard.
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>>13798308
>at least it makes way more sense than G-Reco's space elevator being worshipped by faggots.
But that works so much better because of how it all links up nicely. The elevator gets the batteries which is a prime source of energy. Aida at the start is concerned out this monopoly, as does her country. The tower supplying stuff is used to enforce Su-Cordism by the ability to cut people off from power. This is from the top enforced by the moonrace who mediate the batteries travel which gave them power over the earth but wish to come down to earth which would completely change the tower supply system. And then at the very top there is the Venus Globe who are the ones to enforce this system for real, but through their isolation some think they do not deserve it assuming humans are the same as they were hundreds of years ago.

On one point all of them link up nicely and form a core part of the story, it makes it feel real. IBO doesn't do this and the little of what we have learnt in IBO is just stuff we were told and it is left at that. Worse some bits end up end up feeling lazy logically. Kudelia is a prominent figure of a independence movement and a moron with no self confidence. How did they get Barbatos and why were they just using such a thing as a generator? because. What information did the revolutionaries actually get on Kudelia as some seem able to recognise her while others have zero idea? they just did.

IBO has a very bare back bone of a story that just about caries it, it does not feel fleshed out of living
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>>13798457
>how a lot of it was just WATER WATER WATER like a typical gundam setting
That is because water is important for Tomino. You expect people to be able to live in space without oceans? Good luck with that.
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>>13796333
Agreed. I was curious as to how they'd change it, since it was hinted at. not disappointed at all.
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>>13798308
>It may not be Tolkien's level of worldbuiding but it is nontheless. at least it makes way more sense than G-Reco's space elevator being worshipped by faggots.

That at least made sense as an immunization-strategy against people blowing Earth's lifeline up for laughs.
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>>13796275
>IBO might be getting a second season
>Nice meme

Hate to said this but the possibility is very high. I hope it won't though.
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>>13798308
its not the world its the way everything in it has been presented to us thats the problem. its THE problem with this show. The world the characters, it all had potential but they squandered it
Its like okada gave a brief outline of her story to the other writers and then just fucked off leaving the other writers to work out what to do with it
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Man I miss Don't loose your way
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>>13798308
All of that happened at the beginning. The last ten episodes have addednothing to that.
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>>13799686
Except nothing suggests that. I don't know where you are getting the possibility is high from. Sounds like wishful thinking. Gundam series rarely get second series. Only the main UC line, BF and SEED got sequels. 00 and Wing got movies. IBO is nowhere near as popular as any of those shows.
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>>13799686
You do realize that the Amazon link was referring to the first half (1-13) not the first season right? And not woth those ratings.
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>>13799760
>>13799686
I was also going to add that BF is cheaper to make, but I'm really not sure. IBO is being pushed so hard you'd think it would have a good budget but it looks awful a good amount of time and has barely any fights. I know money =/= quality but a good budget has got to help in some regard

But BF's gunpla was cheaper as it partly used old parts and some of the new stuff was used in later kits. IBO tried to do the shared frame stuff etc but it just didn't work with the designs, even from Guison to rebake it is all different parts
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Here's the problem with people shitting on IBO
> They compare it to series that start in the middle of a conflict while IBO hasn't even started one
> They compare it to series they marathoned so they forget they had their pacing issues
I marathoned it 1-13. I had a lot of fun. Everyone except for Kudelia is very likeable, the soundtrack is best of all modern Gundam shows, fantastic Gundam designs. I am genuinely curios whats Mika's backstory and how Gjallahorn executes their plans.
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>>13798308
none of this has been shown in a meaningful or interesting way though, hell the majority of it isnt even shown. We only know the majority of these things because the characters tell us about them.
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>>13799821
>They compare it to series that start in the middle of a conflict while IBO hasn't even started one
>They compare it to series they marathoned so they forget they had their pacing issues
what do either of these have to do with IBO?
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>>13795758
>Episode ends
>Oruphenz Namidaaa plays in my head whilst I weep silently thinking about what could have been
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>>13799755
> Shows oppression by Gjallahorn outside of Mars
> Establishes relationship between Mika and Atra
> Humanizes McGillis, Biscuit and Akihiro by establishing unique character arc
> Finishes Fumitan character arc
naw it's doing ok. kudelia is still a shit tho.
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>>13799832
People forget that 0079, Turn A and Wing have worse pacing than IBO.
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>>13799821
> I marathoned it 1-13. I had a lot of fun.
Same here, couldn't wait to see what will happen next. But then I came back to /m/ and episode-per-week format. Suddenly, IBO doesn't look that good any more.
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>>13799850
man i wish they had begun fumitans character arc before deciding to end it
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>>13799854
Pacing is the least of IBO's problems
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>>13799855
There is no Gundam show that works good on a episode to episode format other than Build Fighters and G-Gundam
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>>13799854
but youre essentially saying people don't like it because they can't judge it on its own merits and now you're saying that IBO is good because at least it supposedly in your opinion which is shit btw does something better than previous series
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>>13799850
>Shows oppression by Gjallahorn outside of Mars
You mean tells. We never get to see people living through there oppression. In fact those workers have okay clean environments and even technology like tablets. They also seem pretty free to do as they want

> Establishes relationship between Mika and Atra
That was established when she was introduced, and hasn't gone any further

>Humanizes McGillis, Biscuit and Akihiro
How? Char has done fuck all but look talk to a loli and give suspicious looks. Biscuit and Guts had secret brothers both come out of no where just after the character mentions them for the first time, then these brothers both turn out to be evil and then when reasoned with both go crazy. Gut's was especially bad as all he did was repeat muh debris despite us never seeing him treated worse than the rest at CGS, even the characters were sick of him doing it.

>Finishes Fumitan character arc
You mean have 90% of it squished into two flash backs that still don't make her fleshed out. We now know she was poor and she didn't like Kudelia but also did. Kudelia didn't have to change at all for her to want to betray and go back and save her. Terrible arc
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>>13799854
wing i haven't seen. 0079 i may give you for the first quarter, but whats wrong with turn a's pacing? or are you one of those people that thinks it only got good when they got to space
also i dont really think pacing is what people are complaining about IBO for
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>>13799887
People do complain about the pacing but it is because there is so little content to fill what we get. They could easily make a show like this work but with some scenes, the whole pirate arc feeling like filler and especially with the repeated exposition it feels like something which could easily be condensed
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>>13799854
They don't though. IBO has extremely little content stretched across a huge amount of episodes. It's not bad because it moves slow; it's bad because barely anything develops: characterization, plot, etc.

All 3 series that you named establish far more in the same timespan than IBO.
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why did they waste budget on a second OP and ED when there were perfectly fine ones already.
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I miss the first ending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pyfH3oj_eg

Pure magic
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>>13795191
>Bloody Sunday or Red Sunday is the name given to the events of Sunday, 22 January 1905 in St Petersburg, Russia, when unarmed demonstrators led by Father Georgy Gapon were fired upon by soldiers of the Imperial Guard as they marched towards the Winter Palace to present a petition to Tsar Nicholas II of Russia.
>Gundam IBO episode 16: As the Workers' Union begin their demonstration against the Dort Company, Orga and his team go search for Kudelia, who has run off to get answers from Fumitan. The demonstration becomes deadly when Gjallarhorn forces intervene and Kudelia finds herself involved with the Union.
We Revolution Now
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>>13799975
The events aren't similar though. The Russian protesters didn't role up with fucking tanks, there wasn't any stage explosion to open fire, they just didn't give a fuck and wanted them to go away and they didn't have some stupid girl pulled in to be their leader
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>>13799925
>gotta change the OP and ED!!!! people might think we not enough budget lolx!!!! xD
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