Was Unicorn good or bad?
What made it suck, what made it great?
Poll:
http://strawpoll.me/6462804
"Unicorn is bad" is just a meme on this board. Same thing with CCA.
>>13715115
People here hate CCA? Maybe I'm just on at the wrong hours but I see nothing but praise
>pollfagging
and then anon was the cancer
>>13715126
People hate everything that's popular.
What hours do you visit?
>>13715106
anything is better than seed
>>13715115
There are legitimate problems with CCA, it's perfectly fine to dislike it.
Started off decent but divebombed into a smoldering, stinking landfill of shit-smeared hairy tumors and tonsil stones. Just like every other U.C. OVA that isn't Sacred Cow in the Pocket.
>>13715140
Holy shit.
>>13715164
But anon, war in the pocket was shit.
>>13715106
You could make a plinkett style review of everything wrong with Unicorn
>>13715466
Number 1.
The proTHACOnist.
So what is Banagher's role anyway? We have seen unloved child or plain orphans in past.
Yeah he is too, but happens to be inheritor of progeny that begins from the 1st day of Universal Century itself. He just happens to have everything set for him. He is part of the Illumanati family of Gundam, which has now being added retroactively to the entire saga that began 35 years ago and in-universe too.
There are no big battles or war anymore after CCA, so he ends up being operator of the macguffins key rather than a skilled pilot like Amuro, Kamile and Jewdo, Judo , Jodough whatever.
This is why I cannot think of him as a pilot , there are too much convienice around him and his "gundam".
Still, everything was going good until ep 7 happened.
>>13715649
Number 2.
The antagohnist.
As I have said before, don't tell me to read the light novels, I can't read anyway.
So basically you need something from past so that you can not only cash on modern viewer but also from the gunota who kept buying your plstic cocanine . It's fun . I have lots of them. That's where my son's tution fee went.
Anyway, we have this guy we never know his origins. But yeah we will use Shinichi Ikeda and design him like Char with his scar , but we will never tell how come he came into being, or who is behind this .
Literally you cloned char for
*WE ARE IN FOR MONEY *
Hmm.. even UC is not safe from char clones
And seriously what is wrong with your name?
"Full frontal " looks like a joke, specially when you are a remenant zeonic soldier hiding in some asteroid mine in space. Why should I take you seriously? What if it is trap?
>>13715664
Number 3
The MACguffin
If you were paying attention, it wasn't hard to realize that the laplace's box thing is sme sort of charter panning away from the screen.
IT dosen't makes sense how come it's important, considering that any numerous amendments in constitution .
I support the 2nd amendment, sometime you need big guns. I use it to fend my cat's ghost.
Remember that there is an entire arc about parliamentry session in Zeta Gundam, where federation were increasing autonomy of Titans?
What would charter of version 1 of the constitution is going to achieve ? You are creating more chaos , earth barely survived 3 wars betweeb space nomads and earth guys.
Even grandpa vist says that.
Anyway, I ordered my plastic baby.
>>13715649
>>13715664
>>13715708
I adored Unicorn buy I wanted you to know that I am in tears laughing at this.
Do you guys think the OVAs are canon, or would the novels be more canon? Kind of like how Remastered Zeta isn't really canon, but another look at what could have happened.
>>13715916
>would the novels be more canon?
Novels are never canon, anon.
Except for Turn-A, despite the fact that it's not even written by Tomino, solely because every impressive thing about the Turn A comes from the novel and in the anime it's kind of a shitbox that just has a nanomachine WMD in its chest (right next to the cow).
>>13715956
> I've never actually seen Turn-A and I'm just regurgitating shit other people say: the post
Turn-A isn't as over powered in the show as in the gunpla manual and games that feature the Black History Turn-A, but it's still one of, if not the most powerful unit in the franchise.
>>13715964
Bitch, plz. If I hadn't seen the show I wouldn't know that the Turn A isn't the be-all end-all that /m/ says it is. I wouldn't know that the cow was in the left breastplate, I wouldn't know that Loran laughed at the two idiots and the old lady having the same knot on their heads, or that the blonde idiot has a fake license (according to the short idiot).
That has nothing to do with the fact that the argument about whether or not Turn A is the strongest Gundam invariably falls back on the bullshit that it never does in the show.
>>13715970
Some people, sure. I've argued in a lot of Turn-A and power level threads without ever touching that shit though, because frankly, I think it's a different machine and not worth considering when speaking of the anime. And Turn-A in the show is still stronk as hell regardless so it's not like it makes any difference.
So exactly what happened to the Unicorn after it did its Psycoframe magic?
>>13715970
>Can fly around the battlefield unscratched when its MLB and I-field are active
>Throws Nuke in your face
Other than G-Self, I don't think there is any Gundam stronger than Turn A.
Let's take a moment to appreciate the mooks who were fucking crazy and did pretty well against aces. Like this Stark Jegan pilot here.
>>13716040
It was stored in the Magallanica in the novel and presumably stored about Industrial 7 after the anime. We'll probably find out at least a little more with a new novel of some kind coming out later this year apparently. Fukui and Furuhashi wanted to make it clear in the animation that everything that happened in the finale was a one-time miracle, but failed to really do so since a lot of people wonder why it wasn't helping win wars and settle disputes after that point. Then again, they also said it wasn't supposed to have the Unicorn dealing with the fleet in the anime at all so who the fuck knows what they were thinking. Regardless. it was probably put in storage and not really nearly as useful as people make it out to be after that point since outside of the psycoframe it's just a good but not overly impressive suit outside of the NT-D and funnel jacking, which the bio-computer of F91 helps do the same thing by a different means anyways and there are no more funnels in UC after that point regardless.
>>13716111
G-Self isn't even stronger than it. Nothing it displayed in show (or mentioned in manuals to my knowledge) is nearly as destructive as the Moonlight Butterfly.
It's a shaky plot and characters that just hold together enough to be entertaining with the help of good animation. I can't think of anything big that makes no sense, just stuff that isn't really that well written but it sort of works and occasionally creates good moments. Also best Ple
I'd take it time and again over most shit that gets pushed out every season. It is easy to point to weak parts of Unicorn but consider how terrible most anime and shows actually are, it really lands at that entertaining but mediocre place
>>13716128
Talking about the way it crystallized, but that's neat to know too. Where'd that info about the new novel come from?
I kind of have the same opinion about the Unicorn as a suit as well, since it's just a high performance MS, it's still just one unit, the Banshee and the Phenex not included.
>>13716133
These two. I swear these two.
>>13716156
Pretty sure the crystallization process was reversed and it went back to stock in the finale. I haven't seen it in a while though so I could be wrong.
>>13716161
I want to puru her puru like many men before
I still think it needed to have a stronger Ideon vibe.
Unicorn was at its best when weird bullshit was going on.
>>13716163
Just finished rewatching everything, so yeah it reverted back to stock. Just wondering what that crystalization was. Psycoframe reaction?
>>13716171
It was bullshit that is best not to think about as any answer wouldn't be satisfying
>>13716171
I think in the novel Banana and the Unicorn fused together, creating a new being, so the crystals growing everywhere were very likely that. The process was reverted when Banana decided Zeon pussy was better than godhood.
>>13716171
The psycorame going nuts and taking over due to having too much will and energy concentrated in to it or something I suppose. It absorbed a good bit of a colony laser blast after all.
>>13716178
Well I kind of want to know what happens to them afterwards as well. What's the next immediate series chronologically after Unicorn?
>>13716171
It was how Amuro got transformed into a T
>>13715106
In the context of what it is it's alright. But the thing is that the entire plot comes off as fan fiction it feels as if the entire plot is one of those sessions you used to have in your head. When you were a kid about how you wanted to have a sequel about "INSERT SHOW NAME HERE" and what you get is this really unnatural sequel.
6/10 The really good production values,designs and soundtrack carry the show.
>>13716186
Wasn't that Chan? Amuro, Char and Lalah got transformed into like, Force Ghosts.
>>13716184
Chronologically is F91, and then V, but those were made before Unicorn, so there's no mention of them anywhere.
>>13715106
>the good
Animation, music, initial setup and dub.
>the bad
Everything after episode 3.
>>13716189
I specifically remember the T appears after Axis shock.
>>13716196
It appears right after Chan gets snubbed by Hathaway iirc. It's already floating around the Nu while it pushes Axis away.
>>13716192
Right right. Wouldn't mind bridging the gap between Unicorn and F91. Since, well, war's still a thing.
>>13716198
The T only really starts lighting up and speeding around after Axis is already pushing out of the atmosphere and the movie is essentially over. It was around before then, but wasn't really giving any kind of reaction.
>>13716205
This was well before Axis shock.
>>13716205
Right before this he says "Chan?"
Sorry I just had to, because to my knowledge the T is really Chan. All it is is a piece of Psycoframe anyway.
>>13716225
Now compare that to its reaction after Axis is on its way out of the atmosphere where it's clearly reacting far more.
It was okay.I'll get bashes for saying this but the best part of the series was Full Frontal .
>>13715106
8/10
is this IGN?
>>13716111
Power-wise, Unicorn is the strongest now.
Specially it can shit out psychofield that destroy metals a-la MB, but much more faster and deadlier than what Turn A can do
>>13715649
>>13715664
>>13715708
>>13716279
No, this is neo /m/
>>13716282
Actually I'd say the Neo Zeong is stronger, because the Unicorn can only do it under certain circumstances where the Neo Zeong can do it whenever.
7/10 on average, 3/10 for the last ep
It's hard to judge something that starts off good and ends on such a bad note OP. Because your feelings just become so bitter at one point regardless of the pleasures it gave you before like an ex.
I mean fuck me that ending sucked so badly that it just makes me want to write unicorn off as alternative UC.
>>13716198
Isn't Hathaway's Flash between unicorn and f91?
![37f1fc48c059303820f659e3607ad385[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/KkFqVFG.jpg "37f1fc48c059303820f659e3607ad385[1].png")
I enjoyed Unicorn greatly, it's my favorite UC-related Gundam series.
>great
Animation, soundtrack (though it did mark Sawano's downward slide into mediocrity), mech design (I will get shit on for this)
>sucked
Absolutely everything else. The writing was all over the place, the MacGuffin was dumb, the characters (especially Banana) were idiots and it's hard to get invested in anything when you know absolutely none of it will end up mattering later on.
>>13715916
Not all that important as we all now know Banana was wrong and UC gets one nasty bad end.
>>13716569
>No burns, scars and lacerations
dropped
>>13716282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mScqgquCsg
Unicorn is actually the single best rated Gundam work on ANN.
>>13717578
So its shit.
>>13717648
If you want to be a contrarian, maybe. Then you'd be liking G-Reco and AGE.
>>13715106
>http://strawpoll.me/6462804
>All these fuckers rating 8 and higher.
Oh so that's why /m/ is complete shit now.
Sure it looks absolutely beautiful, but the story was just SO bad I could hardly sit through the later OVA's. To think there are autists here who could not only tolerate, but probably enjoyed the story makes me ill.
My main beef with Unicorn is how hard it tries to be the ultimate fanservice, yet forgets how to be a Gundam animation.
For starters; none of the returning characters have consistent characterizations of their personality.
>Kai REALLY hates Zeon
Wait, since when? He doesn't really seem to mind helping Char fight the EF in Zeta, the only thing I remember him hating from 0079 is war itself. The worse by far though was Bright telling Bananabadger:
>I always felt Gundam picks the pilot.
WTF? Sorry but every other portrayal of Bright contradicts that statement. Which brings me to my next point:
It forgot to be a Real Robot anime.
As the quote above shows, before the Gundam was always treated as nothing more than a giant destructive-as-fuck weapon. The Unicorn isn't a weapon. It's an indestructible GOD, that runs off of GOODNESS, LOVE, and UNDERSTANDING. It can telepathically push things, deactivate MS, and even TIME TRAVEL. And then mysteriously disappears from all existence. None of this is ever explained.
The best illustration of this isn't through how it actually performs (though that would be sufficient), but just how Banananners treats it:
Every other Gundam pilot.
>The ZZ sure is powerful!
>I designed the Zeta myself.
>I'm only alive thanks to the Gundam's armor.
Bananabadger
>UUUUNNNNNIIIIIICCCOOOOOOOORRRRN!!
>COME ON UNICORN, LETS SHOW THEM OUR UNDERSTANDING!
Even a similarly powerful Gundam like the Turn A is never treated in such a way. It's literally treated as a Super Robot.
>>13717788
>It forgot to be a Real Robot anime.
That's a good one Char, no wonder you're a newtype ghost.
>>13717788
And finally. 0079's whole point was to portrays War as bad. Both sides in some way stand in a morally gray zone and the majority of the deaths aren't deserved. Unicorn attempts to do the same, but it's conflict isn't between two governing bodies. It's between a government and TERRORISTS. In doing the generic Gundam treatment of War, Unicorn laughably made Terrorism out to be a morally gray thing.
Fuck Unicorn.Homo Iron Mask is still pretty cool t b h though
>>13717788
>tl;dr MY TASTE > YOUR TASTE!
Kill yourself. I don't even like Unicorn, I just think your a cunt.
Also judging from your post, your understanding of the Unicorn and Gundam in general is extremely lacking to begin with. It's like reading the opinions of someone that read someone elses's opinions and came to an opinion, like Frozen Teardrop. Please refrain from posting ever again.
>>13717788
>Kai REALLY hates Zeon
?
He's open to working with them, what are you on about?
>I always felt Gundam picks the pilot.
??
Did you even watch ZZ?
>As the quote above shows, before the Gundam was always treated as nothing more than a giant destructive-as-fuck weapon. The Unicorn isn't a weapon. It's an indestructible GOD, that runs off of GOODNESS, LOVE, and UNDERSTANDING. It can telepathically push things, deactivate MS, and even TIME TRAVEL. And then mysteriously disappears from all existence. None of this is ever explained.
???
Did you even watch Zeta, ZZ, CCA, Victory, G, Turn A, or 00?
>>13717788
>that runs off of GOODNESS, LOVE, and UNDERSTANDING.
It runs on pilot brainwaves manifesting as physical energy, dialed up to crazy levels since the whole suit is made of psycoframe. This has been a thing since Zeta, right up to telepathy and disabling MS movement.
>and even TIME TRAVEL
Way to prove you didn't watch a fucking thing. They didn't travel through time, they saw time.
>>13717816
>I don't even like Unicorn
unicornfag pls, you don't fool anyone
>>13717830
>Zeta
>UNDERSTANDING
Lol que?
Newtype hax is all about killing niggers in Zeta even in ZZ.
>>13717788
>To think there are autists here who could not only tolerate, but probably enjoyed the story makes me ill.
Spoken like a true autist.
IT started good, like Destiny, then went full retarded, like destiny
>>13717816
>tl;dr MY TASTE > YOUR TASTE!
It's like you didn't even read my post. I actually critiqued specific points and characteristic of the plot.
>Also judging from your post, your understanding of the Unicorn and Gundam in general is extremely lacking to begin with. It's like reading the opinions of someone that read someone elses's opinions and came to an opinion
Which is completely false. I watched every UC gundam beforehand and ended on watching Unicorn (BIG mistake having the last UC show watched being one so bad). Without reading any wiki or cocksucking /m/ for guidance. Please explain how my understanding is flawed :^)
>>13717827
>He's open to working with them, what are you on about?
Exactly, they specifically stated he hated Zeon. Which is complete bs.
>Did you even watch ZZ?
Yeah, Bright convinced Jewdough to join the military to help his sister financially after he attempted to steal the Zeta for $$. Bright's motivation being that he was a Newtype like Amuro and Kamille I'm assuming.
>Did you even watch Zeta, ZZ, CCA, Victory, G, Turn A, or 00?
Never watched 00. What's your point? All the Newtype shenanigans from other UC was caused by Newtypes shenanigans, not by the Mobile Suit itself.
>>13717830
>They didn't travel through time, they saw time.
Purely semantic. Either way it proves my point. And I did unfortunately, painfully, watch Unicorn in it's entire travesty.
>>13717870
Gud point desu
>>13718076
>Yeah, Bright convinced Jewdough to join the military to help his sister financially after he attempted to steal the Zeta for $$. Bright's motivation being that he was a Newtype like Amuro and Kamille I'm assuming.
He also just gave the kids the Nahel Argama in the end. That's the kind of hands-off attitude he has in UC and even up to Hathaway's Flash.
>Never watched 00. What's your point? All the Newtype shenanigans from other UC was caused by Newtypes shenanigans, not by the Mobile Suit itself.
Yeah, no. Aside from Judau's giant projection, the weird shit was all thanks to their machines.
>>13717853
>>13715106
>what made it great?
Marida
>what made it suck?Marida dying
>>13718114
>He also just gave the kids the Nahel Argama in the end.
He only did that to fuck with the AUEG top brass
>>13718149
And in the end not a single iota of UNDERSTANDING occurred in Zeta.
I mean, most of the cast was killed, and they didn't die content. They died bitter, angry, hateful, and above all butthurt. The only UNDERSTANDING was between Four and Kamille, and then she died as a repeat of Lalah, so really there was little understanding anyway.
>>13718149
>She then tells her to fuck off and blue haired girl gets mad and they just go back to trying to kill each other.
>>13718152
>>13718207
>riddhe posters
>>13718278
Alberto pls
I don't understand, whats a plaque with "newtypes might be real" gonna do? Thats like showing a piece of paper with "the jews aren't that bad" written on it to hitler
>>13715106
Eh. It's okay. I'll give it an 8/10 since I'm in such a good mood.
8/10,9/10 is leading. Are you for real /m/ or this IGN style ratings?
>>13717788
>As the quote above shows, before the Gundam was always treated as nothing more than a giant destructive-as-fuck weapon.
No, the Gundam's always been treated as just another mildly high-spec mobile suit with a special name and a special pilot that brings out the most in it. Half the time, the Gundam in a given UC show is easily outmatched in raw performance/firepower by some special snowflake mono-eye, or sometimes, even late grunts. You're thinking of AU Gundams.
If anything, Unicorn is the first time when in UC where it's treated like an ultra destructive weapon that Banagher has to try and reign in and tame.
>Wait, since when? He doesn't really seem to mind helping Char fight the EF in Zeta, the only thing I remember him hating from 0079 is war itself.
A better question is why would he like Zeon? They've been nothing but trouble in the Earth Sphere since the war, and he's likely covered it.
>The Unicorn isn't a weapon. It's an indestructible GOD
Eh, not really. Most of the time it works just like any other mobile suit, just precision controlled through thought when the NT-D is active. The only time things get pseudo magical and destructive is when psycoframes start resonating and in the ending, and that lasts a total of what, five minutes before Banagher goes back to normal and can't god-mode anymore?
>>13717806
>It's between a government and TERRORISTS.
The Sleeves themselves are classified as terrorists by the Federation government to secure funding for the UC project, but they haven't shown to be deliberately attacking to incite fear or anything, which is the textbook definiton of terrorism. They've been operating like any army, attacking the Federation military when strategically prudent. The fact that they're somewhat ragtag compared to other Zeon movements doesn't make them terrorists by definition. Were you even paying attention?
Now, the remnants on earth, that's a different story. They most defintiely behave like terrorists.
>>13718304
Unicorn was mostly liked. Not LOVED, mind you, liked.
It just has a lot of really vocal shitposters. Popular things usually do.
>>13717788
>calls others out on being autists
>proceeds to autistically throw a hissy fit that people are liking things you don't
Poor autitsts, they're doomed to be in a vicious cycle of hate since they lack the self awareness to notice that they're causing their own problems.
>>13718381
An autist's worst enemy is another autist.
>>13718306
Shin Getter stayed "normal" too until it resonated with Go and became a eater of nukes absorber of souls.
Even if it's in the last 5 minutes it still invalidates the rest of it, Unicorn handwaved away an entire armada and blocked a colony laser with green magic hope crystals.
>>13718393
>Shin Getter stayed "normal" too until it resonated with Go
Resonated with Go? No, it was because it sat around for 15 years gathering energy that it went out of control. And even before it was abandoned in the Saotome lab, it was doing strange things.
>>13718393
>blocked a colony laser with green magic hope crystals.
Actually it blocked a colony laser with a feedback loop psycofield created by two full psycoframe mecha operating in unison. The flavor crystals were a side effect of that.
Again, I think Unicorn didn't get weird and bullshit enough at the end.
It needed to be more bullshit and weird.
Something to scare newtype fetishism and psychoframe tech out of the human conscious for good.
>>13718393
And Nu pushed an asteroid about 13km in diameter out of the atmosphere and then put a ring around the entire Earth afterwards to show them the light of the human heart. Doesn't mean that Nu is some kind of magical god machine. Before you say it, Furuhashi and Fukui have both confirmed that it was a one time occurrence that is not replicable by Banana or anyone else at will using the Unicorn. If you want to be mad at any machine, be mad at the Neo Zeong that can apparently turn anything it wants to dust or hack machines at will with no penalty.
It has the best soundtrack and CG of all the modern gundams.The character design and animation is rock-solid,the story goes to shit in the final episode but the journey there is totally worth it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwktIkvRBI8
>>13718480
>Earth afterwards to show them the light of the human heart
No that's just Nu going boom.
>>13715106
Will e3 be video games this year, Unicorn?
>>13718466
>Something to scare newtype fetishism and psychoframe tech out of the human conscious for good.
Except Victory Gundam proves that no matter what Unicorn did, it wouldn't be enough.
>>13719399
That's only because Unicorn didn't go full Ideon enough to get the message across, transcending time and space to retcon Victory.
>>13718480
So next time Banana tries the same shit because it didn't take much the first time he would fry and die? That would at least a good way to take Unicorn and Banana out of UC canon
>>13715649
>>13715664
>>13715708
I wonder if anyone in RedLetterMedia watches anime.
>>13719435
Next time he tried nothing would happen presumably.
>>13717495
It's suppose to be a cute picture anon.
>>13716128
Maybe they should have had it break at the end? But fuck that, we have to have invincible god mecha UC Saviour Unicorn Gundam.
>>13716187
>When you were a kid about how you wanted to have a sequel about "INSERT SHOW NAME HERE" and what you get is this really unnatural sequel.
What is a natural sequel to you?
>>13718306
>Half the time, the Gundam in a given UC show is easily outmatched in raw performance/firepower by some special snowflake mono-eye, or sometimes, even late grunts.
That's only been true in the first Gundam series, you damn well know that.
>>13720245
Eh, arguments could be made for Zeta.
>>13720236
You mean like the Zeta or ZZ?
>>13720267
In ZZ maybe. It was never outclassed in Zeta itself beyond perhaps The O, at best it was just matched. And even then, not by many.
>>13720268
Zeta Gundam doesn't end the war or stop a solar colony.
Judau goes on about how the ZZ Gundam can unite people, but only uses it to fight off Haman, and it's destroyed at the end of the series.
Unicorn Gundam doesn't even get damaged.
>>13715140
unforgivable
>>13720275
Qubeley outclassed just about everything in Zeta
>>13715106
its basically national treasure but with mechs
>>13715649
>>13715664
>>13715708
Capped for posterity.
Unicorn frankly sucks.
If you don't really care about Gundam, and just watch it as your generic mecha anime, it has the music and animation woo you over, but for those who actually care, the story writes itself like some bad fanfiction.
It's not a good sign when Unicorn reminds me most of the fanlike writing of Star Wars TFA.
In fact, Tomino is most reminiscent of Lucas. Nobody understood his vision for Reco, the same way nobody understood Lucas' vision for the prequels.
>>13723861
>nobody understood Lucas' vision for the prequels
explain further
>>13715106
I've not seen unicorn so i can't comment on the OVAs quality
but the unicorn gundam in destroy mode makes it the the worst looking main gundam in all of gundam so far
>>13715106
I really liked it, the Laplace revelation was perfect, it was the only thing that could have made any sense. Don't want to spoil too much but the UC-backtracking felt really good
>>13715106
It's pretty bad. Its premise alone devalues every other UC series, not to mention shits on Char's Counterattack only to have the exact same end result anyway. Banana is easily the blandest UC protagonist and he's a huge Mary Sue. Its plot is a glorified fetch quest. A literal Char clone voiced by Ikeda never has his background explored. The first 3 episodes were alright but episode 4 and everything past it was bad, and the final episode was a fucking travesty.
Only things worth anything in Unicorn was the animation, music, Marida, some of the suit designs, and Kobe Byarlant and the Jegan(?) pilot.
>>13723861
>Nobody understood his vision for Reco, the same way nobody understood Lucas' vision for the prequels.
I'm not defending or attacking TFA, IBO or G-reco but the whole idea of a "misunderstood genius" is crap, your vision means shit if you can't convey the idea so that your audience would understand what you're trying to say.
Good ideas means nothing if the execution is terrible, that is until someone picks it up and presents it better.
>>13716184
Hathaway's Flash.
>>13720233
>implying burns, scars, and lacerations can't be cute
>>13723861
So, G-Reco is the Phantom Menace of Gundam?
>>13724499
You have weird tastes friend.
>>13724513
Sylvie is for perfectly normal tastes.
>>13724499
damagemoe is pretty strong moe.
>>13724499
What vn is this, I can't find it.
>>13724581
Teaching Feeling
>>13724581
Welcome to the fold, brother.The contagion spreads~
unicorn was the perfect UC anime. if you don't like it, you don't like gundam. an absolute 10/10
>>13724594
I almost felt bad for H-ing her, but there's really not much non-lewd in the game, and just patting her head got old after 2000 point or so.
There's not much in the game overall either, but it's good for what it is.
>>13723926
All it felt like was a massive retcon. And we know it didn't even fix anything from the UC entries that come afterward, it's the kind of thing that would make naive little idealists like Bannerjee wet their pants, but that's all it ended up doing.
>>13724657
It's a message for the audience.
It falls on deaf ears in the context of Gundam, at least for anything greater than the exorcism of Zeon's ghost from the Universal Century.
anyone who likes unicorn should drown in a pool
even tomino's shitty writing is better than this dreck
>>13715106
The only bad part was the ending. Establishing Banana as a SUPER GOD NEWTYPU really just kind of turned me off of it as a whole. I thought the contents of the box was a perfect conclusion to early UC. But Banana blocking a Colony laser really made me think that they didn't know how to end it
>>13724815
If banana, riddhe, the unicorn, and the banshee had all been destroyed in the resulting psyco-frame reaction it might have been okay
but jesus christ that ending was awful
>>13724826
>CCA 2: Electric Boogaloo
Yeah because CCA is so beloved right
>>13715115
>3DCG
>mediocre traditional animation
>bad sound design
>color palettes
Unicorn is a bad movue before we get to things like personal opinions.
>>13725564
I used the word "movue" here because I am am idiot. I am fully aware it's an OVA.
>>13716282
>>13716111
Devil Gundam shits on Turn-A and Unicorn. Nothing in the entire franchise has ever come close to it.
>>13725490
Implying Unicorn isn't CCA2:Electic Boogaloo anyways.
Except they "repaired" it so that even SEEDfags can understand it.
>>13725585
Are you shitting me?
>>13724826
>implying that anybody would have given a shit about banana and reedy
And by anybody I mean me.
>>13725597
No.
>Manufactures an enormous army of mobile suits
>Absorbed a colony the size and shape of Japan in mere seconds
>Damn near ate the entire planet AND the colonies around it
>Shrugged off laser weaponry on par with colony lasers
>Can possess human beings and turn them into killer android/cyborgs
>Can assimilate anything solid into itself
>Can regenerate instantly like the T-1000
And none of that is after-the-fact bullshit trivia found only in gunpla manuals.
>>13725585
THIS
I did like Unicorn, though. All except for the fact that the writers and characters apparently can't tell unicorns and lions apart, or black and white for that matter. And Riddhe blasting a certain someone for no good reason.
But seriously, though, nothing ever shown in any other Gundam show compares to Devil Gundam. Tomino claims that Turn A uses "Perfected DG Cells" but they're laughably less efficient going by on-screen healing time and assimilation. Black History Turn A may have nano-disassembled all tech in the world, but if Domon hadn't been in love the Devil would have assimilated the entire world, tech, people and all. Fannels/bits/fangu/dragoons? Devil was controlling an entire army of notZaku *and* several living beings who were, in turn, controlling Gundams. Flash System ain't got shit on that. Twin Buster Rifle? Satellite Cannon? Colony-laser-tier rifle? Warning shots? Devil Gundam was completely immortal when it comes to violence. Nothing short of a fast-food mascot made of pure unconditional love by Domon "unpossible action" Kasshu could defeat it, it could not be beaten by weapons of any kind.
>>13716189
Char and Lalah transformed into Newtype Ghost. Amuro went Beyond The Time
>>13725638
As a suit I agree that the Devil Gundam is stronger overall, but the Turn-A basically has the perfect hard counter to it because the moonlight butterfly eats all technology. When you consider that it's built off the same technology it only makes it more likely it'll work perfectly against it. I mean, it doesn't really make sense that it's supposed to be built off thousands of years later given the difference in speed of regeneration and all, but it is so whatever. The Turn-A has absurdly high defenses outside of the SUMO punch, both in terms of beam shields and armor strength and can just sit and melt the Devil Gundam's attacks. It wouldn't even take that long because the moonlight butterfly is an exponential attack by the looks of the animation of some of the scenes where it's being: every time it flaps it's wings they grow in size, so within short order they should be big enough to cover even the Earth if the pilot wants.
>>13725638
The Turn A, 00 Qan[T], Unicorn, and Neo Zeong would just fuck its shit up.
>>13726128
>because the moonlight butterfly eats all technology
We only see this happen once in the entire show. If flies over a city leaving a nasty thunderstorm which presumably turned everything to sand. However, given what else we're shown in the series, it failed 5to kill several things and just mummified them instead. Meanwhile the Devil Gundam's mile long tentacles ate EVERYTHING and required an enormous distraction to prevent it from ripping Earth to shreds. The DG cells operate at Sanic speeds compared to the moonlight butterfly. They multiply and consume so fast they could swamp the moonlight butterfly.
>>13726404
We see it once in the show within the present and once in the past, where we know it definitely and conclusively wiped out all of Earth's technology down to simple things like swords. We also see it being used as a cutting weapon once in the finale when Corin attacks. We don't see it fail to kill several things at once if you're referring to when the two Turn's attack each other because their own nanomachines were putting up a defense the Devil Gundam wouldn't have. Even then, they still took each other out. The Moonlight Butterfly is also implied to operate at sanic speeds but just need a minute or two to wind up because it's wings grow exponentially in the black history records when we see it attacking. After a couple of beats, those wings are going to be miles long. After a couple more, they'll be thousands of miles long.
>>13726541
>if you're referring to when the two Turn's attack
I'm referring to the past and things like the Kapools, Borjarnons, and the Willgem being mummified by moonlight butterfly instead of destroyed.
>The Moonlight Butterfly is also implied to operate at sanic speeds
When?
>but just need a minute or two to wind up
While DG cells need zero minutes and zero seconds to eat asteroids and mountains.
>>13726564
> things like the Kapools, Borjarnons and the Willgame being mummified by moonlight butterfly instead of destroyed
Which isn't actually what happened. They were deliberately covered in nanoskin to keep them operational and then buried underground, which is the one place the moonlight butterfly doesn't reach.
> When?
Can you not read? I said when in my post. Look at the moonlight butterfly when it's being used in the black history records. There's shots of it's wings growing exponentially with each flap to the point they're huge in the span of seconds.
> While DG cells need zero minutes and zero seconds to eat asteroids and mountains
They do need non-zero seconds to reach across massive areas though, same as the moonlight butterfly. Which can also slice and eat things in no-time flat within short distances according to the show, such as slicing Corin's kapool clean in two instantly just by it's passage.
The entire point of the show is that the moonlight butterfly is an "beat and eat all Gundam technology" weapon and the fluff holds that up, so both of them say it can beat the Devil Gundam simply by consuming it. The Devil Gundam is a stronger and more versatile suit by conventional means - the Turn-A still wins because it has, by word of God, a hard counter.
The combat only cut is the definitive version
>>13726653
This all just comes off as "It's stronger because Tomino said it's stronger" when we're comparing Turn A to something he didn't write, and honestly doesn't have the right to word of god over. Gundam is bigger than Tomino, and he seems to really dislike that.
Almost all of it's feats are hazy and unquantifiable, and when it does screw up, it looks like absolute junk, like struggling in a grapple against a pseudo Zaku 1, and taking days to heal a head bump or a twisted moustache. That's against something that took on an dozens of colonies worth of kung fu super robots, could heal in seconds, and was outright considered completely indestructible compared to a God Gundam, which is already very strong by Gundam standards.
Basically, Tomino saying Turn A is the strongest Gundam is something I place on the same level as Nagano saying Led Mirage cannot ever be beaten, but much less funny.
>>13726300
How the fuck is 00 supposed to do anything to it? Slice it with its swords? There were a shitload of Gundams trying that all at once and it didn't fucking work, I don't expect Qan[T] to do any better.
For that matter Qan[T] needs to be dropped from these powerlevel threads entirely, because aside from being able to teleport it really doesn't have anything going for it that Nu or another reasonably high-end mobile suit doesn't. Even in SRW it's a pretty shitty machine for a lead Gundam.
>>13717788
This is one of the only sane posts. Unicorn has some great mechporn and actually starts out strong in general. However over time it devolves into the usual kind of incurably autistic Japanese writing that most anime can't escape.
It has some solid scenes/moments for sure, but evaluted as a whole it was only good for 14 years old/people with their development stunted to age 14. Of which many exist on this board.
At least fans of more realish robotish Gundam have Thunderbolt?
>>13731329
(cont.) Not only did they neglect the real robot aspect by making Unicorn such a super robot, the most grievous sin IMO is that they shit on the entire "war is complicated and sucks" theme by letting the protagonist become a fucking pacifist character who fights without killing. He just has his cake and eats it too. Pretty much the most childish and least interesting way to do it.
And how is he so strong? He just gets really emotional and the robot does almost all of the work.
