admit it this the best mecha show of the of the past couple of years and most definately the best gundam show of the past 20
you can stop shitposting now you faggots
uts not funny anymore
Not better than Gundam 00.
Not better than Gundam Build Fighters.
Not better than Gundam ZZ.
Not better than Aldnoah Z
>>13667373
I have to agree.
>>13667383
So far, it is. 00 started pretty strong, but the second season was a trainwreck, and don't even get me started on that piece of shit movie. Let's hope this doesn't go that way too.
>>13667398
That's not even a Gundam show. It's just a spin off.
admit it, mods dont visit /m/.
.
Valvrave is the best Gundam show in the century of the universal.
I want newshits to leave this board
>>13667373
G Gundam still holds that title.IBO is very good.
I liked MJP better.
>>13667412
>That's not even a Gundam show. It's just a spin off.
That says more about the franchise proper than it does BF
>>13667383
>00 is good guys! shame it never got a season 2
>>13667437
Do you lack reading comprehension or do you fail at basic maths?
>>13667444
do you wanna post the proofs?
report sage hide
feeding the obvious shitposter makes you the real faggot
>>13667449
>2015-20=1995
>>13667373
IBO is only good when you compare it to the worst Gundam has to offer and even then you have to remember that Gundam in general has always been mediocre kiddy shit with toysales as the focus.
ITT: buttmad thunderbolt fags
>>13667383
>00
>good
Why does it matter when tastes and preferences are subjective anyways?
>>13667471
That's because the original Gundam is THAT GOOD.
When compared on its own merits, it stands as a fascinating character study juxtaposed with real life parallels.
It manages to foster both an intellectual and artistic spirit having the audience question and deduce the effects of contemporary colonialism, proxy warfare, the proliferation of WMDs, foreign policy...while artistically setting the bar when it comes to mise-en-scene, competent and logical characters (that is to say characters that act within reason according to their modes of thinking.), symbolism, while weaving exposition and narrative carefully to present a story that is dark and serious without ever appearing arrogant.
It is dark by being blunt rather than edgy.
But who am I to disagree with such a bold statement, especially one without justification?
>>13667632
In every time, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
It matters not what other think, we have no control over that.
>>13667813
>It manages to foster both an intellectual and artistic spirit having the audience question and deduce the effects of contemporary colonialism, proxy warfare, the proliferation of WMDs, foreign policy...while artistically setting the bar when it comes to mise-en-scene, competent and logical characters (that is to say characters that act within reason according to their modes of thinking.), symbolism, while weaving exposition and narrative carefully to present a story that is dark and serious without ever appearing arrogant.
Maybe in the bizarro world in which you reside, where Gundam is taken seriously.
>>13667632
It can't be helped.
>>13667373
>this the best mecha show of the of the past couple of years
OP, your pic seems to be broken. Let me fix it for you.
![[EG] Turn-A_Gundam_42_[EB833825].mkv_snapshot_09.30_[2014.09.23_20.47.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Hit1Bu0.jpg "[EG] Turn-A_Gundam_42_[EB833825].mkv_snapshot_09.30_[2014.09.23_20.47.23].jpg")
>25 replies in
>not one mention of Turn A
/m/ sure is different from what I remember.
>>13668029
Nobody even watched this.
>>13667430
You joke but it's certainly one of the better Gundam AUs out there.
>>13668035
>replying to shitpost
>complaints about said post being shit
Sounds like /m/ to me
>>13667632
Because I need to be be better than you over trivial subjects.
>>13668047
We couldn't because it wasn't subbed.
But it is now, so you should.
>>13668035
Turn A is shit though, most of us agree on that.
>>13667373
>God tier soundtrack
>10/10 mech designs
>11/10 semen demons
>interesting story
>engaging characters
Fuck all of you and your shit taste and fuck this board
Better than blunderbolt
It is not even the best Gundam show of this week.
Other than the OP I can't really think of any good music in IBO, actually scratch that the OP isn't that good except for the Engrish "waiting for erection". That pretty much describes IBO up to this point, waiting for some excitement after the mandatory mix of exposition, not so subtly handling that they're orphans and child soldiers, and Kudelia's time wasting. Nope nothing, a poorly choreographed fight that spans one half an episode to another followed by 2-3 episodes of exposition and setting up the next fight. It just leaves me waiting for "erection"
>>13668650
You sound like you belong there.
You fucking pieces of shit and your fucking IBO are the cancer that is slowly eating away at the culture.
I can picture you in my mind's eye. You, doughy and flabby and unkempt, forcing heaping handfuls of Cheetos into your mouth, dusty orange particulate falling onto your greasy neckbeard. I can fucking see you, and I can even smell the stench of stale piss emanating from your bottles.
Fuck you, you fucking piece of shit. Do something with your life. Stop praying at the altar of mediocrity. Remove Reddit from your bookmarks. Fuck, just unplug from the internet. Do something, anything besides continuing down this fucking road.
Learn a trade. Try to do something useful. Learn to shoot long guns and cut wood with a table saw. For once go to sleep physically exhausted. For Christ's sake, do something while you're breathing other than vicariously living through poorly written characters on mundane "adventures" which are copies of copies of copies of copies of dime-store serial stories. Grow the fuck up.
Fuck a woman. Have a child. Anything. Please. Anything but this. Fucking stop, you fucking human parasite.
>>13667383
>>13667398I agree. Fuck haters.
I really want to be optimistic about this show too, but what exactly are you seeing in it that allows you to hold it in such high regards?
At it's best, this show is just alright.
>>13668674
What a convenient pasta, only one word needs to be changed.
>>13667373
The only Gundam it could be better than is Age, everything else in the past 20 years blows it out of the water.
desu this was my favourite of the past half-decade
I'm not even baiting it's actually the reason I'm as big a mecha fan as I am now and the reason I went back to watch all the other good stuff
Still special to me honestly
>>13667373
It's not even best mecha this season.
>>13668478
>>interesting story
>>engaging characters
please elaborate
>>13667373
It's kind of "eh." The designs themselves are either very bland or a gigantic fucking eyesore, with no in-between. That's a very important aspect of the show in a Gundam series, or any mecha anime.
Doesn't help that the characters aren't very engaging. Manly and badass, sure, but they're not interesting.
>>13668717
VVV was fucking great. people just don't get that it was stupid on purpose.
camp anime.
>>13668047
I did, ya bastard.
>>13668809
It was stupid and dumb and actually sometimes very dead serious.
Give no quarter to liars.
It's also one of if not the sole example of gothic horror styled mecha, in terms of genre conventions short of a Victorian decor.
>>13667373
you know maybe if they didnt waste time on these stills then maybe theyd be able to put more effort into making the actual animation half decent
>>13667398
Honestly, I can't watch build fighters sober.
>>13667412
>>13667383
It's actually quite odd to compare IBO and 00. 00 is the epitome of beam spam and overpowered mecha in a gundam series while IBO is a reversal to low tech.
Overall, I think 00 is more entertaining while IBO has better characters but IBO hasn't finished yet.
>>13668880
Quick question, what do you consider good animation?
Because there's a lot of different ways of thinking about it and nobody has put together a codified line of criticism for animation.
>>13668809
VVV had some interesting ideas and looking at it objectively I have to say that it hits a lot of my checkboxes. However, I found that I had to force myself to keep watching. All of the ideas seem to have fell flat and I couldn't help but feel that VVV wasn't worth watching. Maybe it can strike a cord with some people but for me it failed to come together like poorly made custard.
>>13667443
While it definitely wasn't up to the standards season 1 set, I thought 00 S2 was decent except for them using Setsuna becoming essentially a newtype.
While Cherudim wasn't as good as Dynames and Exia was far better than 00 Gundam, Arios and Seravee were pretty good.
>>13668717
Watching it with /a/ was so great.
I can't wait for it to get into SRW.
>>13667373
The shameless lack of punctuation is a strong indication of cheap bait.
Mods still not working on /m/, as usual.
>>13667632
Quality isn't subjective.
>>13668921
Most of the people criticising animation on /a/ and /m/ are absolute retards or liars.
They love taking inbetweens and acting as if they were full frames of animation.
They also take images of characters in the far background and complain that they aren't drawn in the same level of detail as a close-up.
And then they yell QUALITY! like mongoloids.
>>13669244
>They love taking inbetweens and acting as if they were full frames of animation.
>They also take images of characters in the far background and complain that they aren't drawn in the same level of detail as a close-up.
they put more effort into animating that scene with kudelias ass and atra zipping up her normal suit
>>13669256
We're going to be sitting at episode 25 and people are still going to be posting that webm like it's indicative of the whole show.
>>13667373
That's a low bar OP so I'm not impressed.
>>13669256
most disappointing bit of animation for me was that scene where the barbatos rises up in that basement for the first time. it looked like there were only two frames
>>13669256
I'm not talking about IBO haters specifically, but it's kinda telling that you dust off like 2 webms and sockpuppet Atra every time we have these threads.
>>13669263
nobodies bothered to make any other webms
i think thats quite telling
>>13668971
Arios barely did shit.
>>13669244
>They also take images of characters in the far background and complain that they aren't drawn in the same level of detail as a close-up. And then they yell QUALITY! like mongoloids.
They also pretend that this doesn't apply to every other Gundam and almost all anime. Anything in the distance that isn't fuckhuge is drawn like shit. We only started noticing it after HD became prevalent.
>>13669297
>We only started noticing it after HD became prevalent.
we did?
>>13669303
Hardly the same thing. That entire scene is quality; what we later noticed were the shit lines in the background that previously hid behind resolution limits.
>>13669307
it doesnt help that whoever chooses preview pics for sunrise chooses embarrassingly off model shots
>>13669277
That's because that's the only episode anything actually moves instead of just sliding across the screen or zooming into the camera or being reduced to lights flying around the screen
Even the fucking Man Rodi lifting its hatchet thing is heavily obscured by the camera motion.
>>13669322
>>13669322
>instead of just sliding across the screen or zooming into the camera or being reduced to lights flying around the screen
Welcome to anime.
If you want to see characters that move more than their lipflaps, full series really aren't for you, because most anime on a television budget are just cleverly disguised slide-shows with a few seconds of actual animation thrown in.
>>13669278
I made this one. It's a bit janky without the characters talking and the cockpit cut-ins though, on top of the other half of the fight with the Barbatos being cut. Kinda kills the pacing of the scene.
There is just not shit for motion in this show, occasionally you get more than a couple frames devoted to something reeling or being crushed from being hit by a mace or a hammer or whatever.
>>13669307
To show what I mean, here's 00 looking quite comparably to IBO when it comes to character models at a distance or at a funny angle. If this was 720p or 480p, it wouldn't be as glaring.
>>13669319
Yeah, visual consistency on the stills is pretty bad. A part of me wonders if the reference shots and gunpla have, in effect, become the off-model ones.
>>13669332
Oh hey, I just realised you can see the Graze's reflection on the Hyakuren's knee as it's punching it. That's neat.
![[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_13.31_[2015.10.26_03.52.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qu27Zis.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_13.31_[2015.10.26_03.52.23].jpg")
>>13669344
Just a low-detail distance shot that was more glaring than usual.
>>13669327
I thought this was Gundam not a low budget LN adaption.except those use CGI for robots and have way more movement than IBO
>>13669352
>literally like 5 actual drawings in the entire .gif
Kek
>>13669344
>Posting Quality!Atra and expecting a serious response, when the fandom has basically turned it into an endearing mascot.
Do you have to work to be this stupid, or does it come naturally to you?
>>13669357
I'm assuming that it's the gif's fault, but that doesn't really look fluid either, anon.
And really worse than >>13669332
>>13669357
i cant say i really like studio 3's style in general. the gradients they use for highlights and shading make things look too plasticy and the colouring is usually quite dull. In IBO its slightly alleviated by decent backgrounds though
>>13669332
Even Comet Lucifer had much better stuff than that for mecha.
>>13669407
Comet Lucifer is also CG, and Orange CG at that, of course it has stuff like that. Little details are less impressive than somebody going out of their way to do it on top of 2d art.
>>13669414
They just don't care about mecha in IBO
>>13668895
>00
>"epitome of beam spam"
I guess you turned off your brain to the entirety of Seed, Seed-Destiny, AGE, and Unicorn, chuckles.
>>13669263
>like it's indicative of the whole show.
Yeah, that was one of the few good shots.
People should stop cherrypicking.
>>13669332
>bazooka exploding
Did they just ripped-off the Zaku Amazing VS Build Strike? Even the fights are generic as fuck, I swear to God.
>>13669344
what ep is that?
>>13667373
The best mecha show of the last 10 years was Shin Mazinger.
>>13669471
No, I just consider awakening of the trailblazer part of 00
>>13669471
Actually, Unicorn has less beamspam than you'd expect. I agree that 00 has a LOT of it, however, especially AoTT. I mean, everything fires a god damn giant beam in that movie.
>>13669821
Holy shit, you're going to have an aneurysm over the Psycho Zaku versus Thunderbolt fight in Gundam Thunderbolt, aren't you? I'll be looking forward to that.
>>13668035
>Turn A
>past couple of years
I like Quality Arta more than the actual Arta
>>13667373
>>13670152
>Unicorn has less beamspam then you'd expect.
>>13670143
Even factoring the 00 movie, there's less beam spam between season 2's ending arc and the movie then all of Seed alone.
>>13669256
>they put more effort into animating that scene with kudelias ass and atra zipping up her normal suit
They have their priorities in order then.
>>13669256
This looks like fucking ass
>>13667412
>second season was a trainwreck
Why?
>>13670152
At least the movie kinda makes sense since they are fighting ayy lmao that turns you into metal on touch.
>admit it this the best mecha show of the of the past couple of years
Far from it story wise and production wise
>and most definately the best gundam show of the past 20
LOL No. IBO doesn't even capture the feel of gundam. It's a robot show with the name shoehorned in like G Gundam or G-Savior.
>you can stop shitposting now you faggots
uts not funny anymore
Today I hate pizza and tomorrow I'll probably eat a burguer...
>>13667813
>When compared on its own merits, it stands as a fascinating character study juxtaposed with real life parallels.
It really doesn't
>>13668809
Except it really wasn't, rather it was a checklist of everything wrong with anime in the past 15 years. It is what Avengers 200 is in comicbooks.
>IBO best mech in years
When i watch TV shows I like things to happen. Hardly anything has progressed in IBO over the course of the show.
Frankly, IBO is disappointing, in terms of action and moving the plot along.
The drama side has some potential, what with it kind of reminding me of Lord of the Flies, but it really hasn't gone anywhere. Oh sure, it's also the first animated Gundam series to outright have a legitimate harem and all the discussion that particular element brought about, but that's relatively minor (Chibodee's harem doesn't count as none of them have shown legitimate affection beyond that of a close-knit cheer squad).
Don't get me wrong; it does have some nice MS designs and an interesting low-tech future-setting premise (compared to even the original MSG series), but it the plot moves so goddamn slow. It'd take 50 episodes to really tell the story they're trying to tell at this rate.
>>13668478
>god tier soundtrack
A/Z has IBO beat in ost by a long shot and even /m/ shits on defending that
IBO has a couple of meme lyrics and that's it even with all the nothing happening in the show to distract you
>>13673191
>it's also the first animated Gundam series to outright have a legitimate harem
>>13673349
He did? I only ever recall his obsession with wanting a queen and the Palace Athene which was meant for that queen.
If that's the case, I'll give you that. Haven't seen ZZ in a long time.
>>13673406
>He did?
Reccoa and Sarah.
>>13670873
Not him, but in my opinion it dropped the uniqueness of the Gundams being a third party. In the second season it went back to the same old gundams on the resistance to overthrow the corrupt system with the protagonist becoming essentially a newtype.
Also Allelujah still being incompetent as fuck in fights. I swear to god whoever has the mech design I like the most is the worst pilot.
Why are we discussing this ass when thunderbolt is better
>>13673349
Paptimus was more of a cult-leader than an actual harem-master.
He had a magnetic, Newtype magic fueled personality.
Though he could have talked himself into any weak-willed woman's pants, he seemed more interested in using them as puppets.
>>13673191
>But the plot moves so goddamn slow. It'd take 50 episodes to really tell the story they're trying to tell at this rate.
Because it's so obvious they planned it into 2 seasons just like they keep banging us over the head with kudelia not knowing anything outside academia and "mah human debris life sux" meme. We can fucking tell the the last episode of season 1 will end in a cliff hanger
people like this are probably on /m/ right now
>>13676689
Why are there so few good fights?
Episode 5 is the only really enjoyable fight I've seen. The animation was even pretty good. But this recent series of episodes has been pretty disappointing. Which is made worse by the long stretch of character development episodes leading up to a new confrontation.
It was cool seeing Mika murk a bunch of pirate debris kids but him basically chasing around the big green gundam and there hardly being a fight was pretty disappointing. And the animation was still mediocre at best with more than a couple barely animated shots.
I'm still enjoying the show but they better hire some new animators and work on some of those setpieces because this is getting annoying.
>>13676689
Shit, not meant as a reply
>>13676773
>>13676689
Just...wow.
>>13673191
Only if you're a retard
>>13667373
That's not Fafner.
>>13678758
>Hirai shit
>cg shit
Nah I'll stick with ibo thankso
>>13667373
I can't say its the best Gundam in 20 years since that would be saying its better than Turn A which just isn't the case. In terms of writing its more like the best gundam show since 00, though you could definitely make a case for either one. Lots better than the absolute garbage the last few shows have been. Its taking a lot of risks with its character development and its plot structure that are appreciated and isn't just retreading old ground for the series. It doesn't hurt at all that the action and mech design is top notch either. It handles the themes of slavery and child labor decently and presents it in a way that to me seems like it is suitable and interesting for both an older and younger audience, which is pretty impressive and is definitely an area where it one ups 00.
>>13667412
the second season of 00 was better than the first, despite what /m/ likes to say. Marina's character really pushed the show in an interesting direction and the rivalry with Ribbons was really interesting.
>>13678807
>In terms of writing its more like the best gundam show since 00, though you could definitely make a case for either one. Lots better than the absolute garbage the last few shows have been. Its taking a lot of risks with its character development and its plot structure that are appreciated and isn't just retreading old ground for the series. It doesn't hurt at all that the action and mech design is top notch either. It handles the themes of slavery and child labor decently and presents it in a way that to me seems like it is suitable and interesting for both an older and younger audience, which is pretty impressive and is definitely an area where it one ups 00.
>>13667373
I agree it is one of the better gundamn series to date
>>13678816
Oh no, not opinions, they're my anathema.
I hope Delta kills this board.
>>13667383
>00
>the one with the Ayy lmaos and the autistic fedora Arab
>good
