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Wanna make a thread about imperial/republic ships, mechs, ect without any FA spoilers cause haven't gone yet.
Based scout troopers, need to be in these new movies. Disney please.
On my phone but I can post more from my pc later. More scouts.
![scout_trooper_by_daennika[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b2g4RMe.jpg "scout_trooper_by_daennika[1].jpg")
Scout troopers are the coolest.
I love these little bastards. I hope we get some in Episode VIII.
These are the only reason I give a damm about star wars.
>>13651519
>>13651405
This looks like an x-wing hit an arc-170 and this is what came out of it, but I like it.
>>13651524
It's an E-Wing. Spiritual successor to the X-Wing in the EU. Not canon anymore, but I always liked the design.
>>13652172
TRAITOR
also without spoiling anything for OP, the new movies has some SICK ships. Not too many completely new faces, but everything is appropriately starwars-y.
>>13651405
>she never got noticed by her senpeis in New Republic starfighter command ;_;
>>13652272
It was ok, would've loved more naval space battles or at least a next gen Mon cal cruiser or Nebulon-B
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13652339
From the TFA novel (part 1):
"THE INTERIOR OF the TIE fighter was spotless. Droids and techs had done their work well, leaving it ready for pilot and gunner. It was a true pilot who now settled himself into the cockpit command seat. As to the other missing crew member, that remained to be seen.
Slipping free of his bloody, confining jacket, Poe examined the controls laid out before him. Some were familiar from his professional studies of First Order ships, others from perusing details of Old Imperial craft. What he didn’t recognize immediately, he felt sure he could work around. A modern fighter like this one would be naturally forgiving, its computational components engineered to compensate for pilot miscues and oversights. He was relying on the likelihood that the ship itself would automatically correct for any minor mistakes in judgment."
>>13652339
>>13652348
From the TFA novel (part 2):
"Poe was becoming more and more comfortable with the vessel’s instrumentation. In a very short period of time, his mood had swung from fatalistic to exalting. Not only was he alive, not only was he free—he had a ship! And what a ship: a Special Forces TIE fighter. He was certain of one thing as he maneuvered around the immense destroyer: Nobody was going to make him a prisoner of the First Order ever again.
“This thing really moves.” He shook his head in admiration. Fine engineering knew no politics. “I’m not going to waste this chance: I owe some people in that ship a little payback. We’ll take out as many weapons systems as we can.”
It wasn’t a ship, Poe told himself as he gleefully manipulated the manual instrumentation. It was a part of him, an extension of his own body. As fire began to lance out toward them from the immense starship, he whirled and spun the TIE fighter, utilizing predictors as well as his own skills to avoid the blasts. Taking them underneath the mother ship, he danced back and through gaps and openings, executing maneuvers beyond the abilities of all but the best pilots. Several skirted the edge of believability. Poe didn’t care. He was free and he was flying."
Poe is a /m/an.
>>13652354
Poe and Finn BROing it up were some of my favorite parts of the movie. I really hope we get more of that in Episode VIII.
>>13652272
>the new movies has some SICK ships
There wasn't enough imo. Looks like JJ forgot that A/Y/B wings exist.
>>13652638
A wings a fucking lame
>>13651329
All you need to know is TFA is not a very good movie.
Are BLAZE troopers /m/?
>>13652805
Yes, why would you ask a dumb question like that? That'd be like me going, "is Darth Vader /m/?" too. Anyway from Episode VII: Incredible Cross-Sections.
New Order's Ties have deflector shields and hyperdrives.
>>13652715
yeah
>>13652638
To be fair, the Resistance is a small paramilitary group who's actions prior to the move consisted of monitoring the First Order. By the looks of it they only operate a handful of T-70's. If we ever get to see the Republic force, I hope they have a bit more variety.
Maybe we'll get to see the E-Wing canonized?
>>13652689
nigger
>>13652853
>small military group
>funded by the successor of the Old Republic
>entire "fleet" is literally two squadrons
>>13651405
the E-Wing is cool and all
but putting a laser cannon right over the cockpit is dumb as fuck.
>>13652715
How dare you?!
It was true STAR WARS!
>>13653312
It's less retarded than some real life designs.
North American's F-107 had its air intake above the cockpit, which ended up being the bane of the project.
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13653238
The New Republic tolerates the Resistance, member worlds may even be funding them through back channels, but they're not sanctioned. Their Job isn't to wage war, they're basically a force recon group operating in space controlled by the First Order.
Makes sense that they only operate a common type, and in small numbers.
I wish we'd gotten a better look at the New Republic fleet beforeit got blown up by the Starkiller. I wonder if they're operating more Mon Cal Starcruiser type capital ships or Star Destroyer types.
>>13653443
Enjoy the U-Wing: http://indierevolver.com/2015/10/18/ir-exclusive-some-early-looks-at-concept-art-of-the-ships-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens/
>>13652841
that's a pretty cool Tie.
>>13652853
>>E-Wing canonized
The e-wing look so uninspired. I want to see the new B A and Y wing.
>>13652853
You'd think an underfunded paramilitary group would have more of a mixture of newer and older craft, representing whatever they could scavenge together to fight with.
>>13653540
The X is a do anything.
It is the F15E of the Star Wars universe.
You would kill for someone to just gift you Strike Eagles like that if you were the space Mujahideen.
>>13653540
The Resistance was it's own thing, but it was still mostly bankrolled covertly by the Republic. It makes sense that they'd aim for a single, top-of-the-line fighter type, as it makes training, maintenance, repairs, and logistics easier.
>>13653589
that looks decent actually. it's like the gunboat
>>13653589
>>13653548
A stolen Imperial Cruiser or some TIE fighters in the mix wouldn't have hurt would really play the 'rag tag' part more
>>13653605
>>13653614
>>13653611
Viewers would get confused if they had to watch TIEs fighting TIEs.
And besides a non-hyperdrive-equipped fighter was a poor match for the Rebellion's hit and run MO (Wraith Squadron's stolen TIEs notwithstanding) and we can assume the Resistance does similar things
>>13652853
I can see the T-70 being a basic or even older model while the NR fleet actually uses the more advanced ones, like T-71s or higher, or simply plant a letter next to it, like T-70B.
>>13653623
>>13653614
>>13653605
>>13653589
Where did you get these from?
>>13653474
Right there.
>>13653751
>>13652354
Poe is basically Focker without the deathflags.
>>13652339
You wrote that but I only hear YEAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGHHHHHH from that pic.
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13652715
I liked it.
>>13651329
>no spoilers so far
wow /m/ is a pretty mature board. OP should really stay off the internet till he sees it though.
>>13654006
I'm surprised no one mentioned Kylo Snape kills Dumbledore.
>>13653861Han's basically Focker, although it would be more accurate to say Han is the new (and better) Obi-wan.
>>13653945
I wonder if Luke is going to fight in eps8. Is Mark Hamill still up to it?
>>13654053
>Luke starts to speak
>you expect tired and weary dialog because he's seen some shit
>he starts trolling Rey with Yodaspeak
>>13654053
He was talking a lot of shit during the beginnings of this mess that he was too old and too fat to do anything, let alone fight. That said, Have you seen the dude at all the recent premiers? He's lost even more weight for Episode VIII. He's down at least 80lbs. He looks 20 years younger. He'll fight.
>tfw Disney's corporate overlords gave us many more years of Mark Hamill
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13653945
I do have beard and I use force whenever necessary.Anyway-
BEN WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THE JEDI?
>>13654157
He does look pretty good with that beard.
>>13654157
This is from 2013, for comparison.
>>13654053
If Alec Guinness can, he can.
>>13654157
>I will not be part time like you, Han
>>13654167
Damm!
Now I am motivated.
>>13654157
I seriously can't believe how well he shaped up for the film.
I was expecting fatwalker, and instead I got Mace Beardu.
>>13653611
I understand where you're coming from. The X-wings' appearances were almost tired by the last. I'm fine with X-wing uniformity to a point, especially if rogue 1 makes me fall in love with the t-70, however I miss the b/y/a-wings. For some reason I cant blame them for dropping it.
>>13654179
He appears to be taking this shit mad serious. It's interesting because he freely admits that when Lucas fist sat the old crew down at a lunch and told them a Sequel trilogy was going to happen (supposedly even before Disney got involved) he actually balked. He had gotten mad comfortable with the fat, chainsmoking old voiceactor Mark routine and thinks very little of his Live Action work.
>>13654065
>yodaspeak in joker voice
ftfy
>>13654065
>"To master the force, face and overcome your greatest inner demons you must"
>Rey: "I'm sorry I didn't quite catch that"
>"You'll get used to it."
>>13654187
Rogue One should bring back the older T-65s, Y-Wings, A-Wings and old-school TIEs.
>>13654208
God I hope the change in lifestyle doesn't kill him along the way.
I mean, too abrupt a shift could cause harm.
>>13653861
Funny you say that. Apparently he really was slated to die in the crash but Abrams like Issac so much that they decided to keep him around.
>>13654157
He looks ready to kick serious ass.
>>13654208
Didn't he get in a big accident after the original trilogy or something and it fucked up his face? Isn't that why he went into voice acting instead?
>>13652310
This scene looks better than anything in Ep7. I heard JJ was using a lot of practical effects in his movie, but I still saw a ton of CG. Very disappointing.
>>13652310
it's amazing how well the endor space battle holds up after 30 years
>>13654157
Hamill aged the best out of the three. Even looks like he can rumble with the new kids no sweat.
>>13654270
Harrison ford is ten years older than Mark Hamill.
>>13654257
He got into a nasty accident during the downtime between IV and V. Reports have varied about the extent of his injuries; he maintains it was nowhere near as bad as the rumors say, but his face has forever since had that odd crease/set to the left side that has become more pronounced with age. The combination of weight loss beard is actually doing a good job of covering a lot of it up.
>>13652841
>putting a turret that has half of it's field of fire obstructed by two wings.
Great design.
>>13654261
Look man, it's really unfair to compare TFA to the Battle of Endor.
BOE is a masterpiece of miniatures effects work. All TFA had that might compare in visual flare was the final attack run on Starkiller Base but that's way too short and brief to even compare to Battle of Yavin, its immediate inspiration source.
Let's wait and see if they do something more grand in scope before shitting on the film for not being bug fuck insane in its panache.
I feel like this movie has reignited ten years of buried Star Wars hype inside of me.
>>13654280
>even having a gunner instead of letting the all-knowing computer aim for you
On that note,
>even having a human pilot
>>13654283
Battle of Yavin, Hoth, and Endor are still the three best battle scene in the entire saga. Even today it's hard to find better battlescene
Ironically despite all the technological advance, none of the prequel battle are anywhere near as good.
TWA did had one of the better choreographed saber duel.
I think the CG was fine and they seemed to be specifically using it to exploit it's potential in having nearly all ground battles.
Imagine how good miniatures would look when combined with modern special effects and techniques, though, if they hadn't been thrown by the wayside.
>>13654270
>Hamill
>aged better than Ford
I mean he looks great now, but his fatwalker years puts him at a disadvantage to the always good looking Harrison.
Ford is the grandpa you'll never have. Kinda like Clint Eastwood in that one film where he wants the gooks to stay off his lawn.
>>13654301
Eh I didn't care for Hoth all that much.
And really it's just that TFA doesn't focus a whole lot on ship battles.
That said its version of the Falcon escape chase sequence was, at least in my opinion, better than ANH's. Cutting the power and dead dropping the Falcon so the broken turbolaser would be in position to shoot down the remaining TIE is the definition of fuck yeah crazy shit.
>>13654319
God, I had forgotten just how good this all looks.
Looking back at it, the Death Star 2's interior run is absolutely ridiculous.
>>13654299
>>13654308
did they add these in the later releases? ive only ever seen the original trilogy the proper way (pic related) and i dont remember these.
>>13654323
Lando basically pick the absolute worst craft to fly into the death star,
and still managed to pull it off somehow.
Yo bitches
ARCs in da house
Where da jedi hoes at?
>>13654319
>skipping the start of the run
>>13654323
I KNOW RIGHT?
This is literally why I put ROTJ on such a high pedestal, the whole battle is the most hype visual spectacle of its time. Shit is flying all over the place and it's mind-boggling how they did it all.
I'm still trying to figure out how much of the tunnel is prop if any, and what of it is just matte background. It's just fucking amazing eyeporn.
You could do it all in CG effects and the whole sequence would still be fucking insane though, the visual direction of the Death Star's interior is gorgeous in its own way.
>>13654283
>Let's wait and see if they do something more grand in scope before shitting on the film for not being bug fuck insane in its panache.
Considering the massive budget that Ep7 had, I think it is fair to be critical of its special effects.
>>13654229
That usually only happens when the sudden weight loss is through a combination of crash dieting (rebranded as 'cleanses' for the hippies) combined with extreme training regimes rather than gradually increasing exertion, or weight loss stimulants like ephedrine.
In that picture he looks great, like genuinely healthy. If he keeps this up he's gonna be with us a long time.
>>13654157
Mark Hamill is just a really cool person in general.
>>13654303
Is there any truth to him doing another Blade Runner? Heard something where he plays a totally washed up Dekker that helps a Replicant get off world?
Also, a pic for all. Behold, a concept design for the superweapons JJ was thinking about...I kid you not...it sucked the atmo off a planet.
>>13654485
It's been done.
>>13654492
I know, it was supposed to be a joke to the joke.
>>13654492
No, that one blew, not sucked.
>>13654223
I'd cum buckets if Z-95's got some big-screen time, and we got a new YT out of Rogue One. The timeframe would make sense for both those elements.
>>13653945
BEN WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THE JEDI?
>>13652715
butthurt EUfag detected.
Arm the ventral turrets.
>>13652853
>>13653589
>>13653605
>>13653614
>>13653623
fuckin' tasty
let's hope now that the First Order has actuallydestroyed a planetwe get to see some Republic reinforcementsif there are any left
>>13654407
I dunno man, those practical effects were pretty fuckin sweet
I think chewbacca's girlfriend Agent Orange is gonna age like shit, though
>>13654485
>>13654492
it hit me that the original trilogy had scenes on some form of megastructure in each film, which is pretty ridiculous if you think about it:
4: Death Star
5: Cloud City/Executor(?)
6: Death Star II
People who were bitching about Starkiller need to rewatch the originals imo
>>13654628
>first spoiler
it was more than one
>>13654626
holy shit, that pilot doesn't even get a bench in that phonebooth
truly the First Order are a new class of evil
>>13654652
good point
>>13654644
Golden rule of Star Wars: death stars make everything more entertaining.
>>13651373
I never understood the visors that cut off peripheral vision, but other than that, cool design.
>>13654268
It's part of the reason why RotJ is my favorite of the franchise.
>>13654603
>literally General Ron Weasley
>high pitched shrill tinny voice
>sounds like he was castrated
>completely bland and added nothing to contrast himself from Ren
>"butthurt EUfag"
Project harder my autistic friend.
>>13652172
TRAITOR
Most badass character in the entire movie
>>13654603
But Episode VII had a shit ton of flaws: it was fun mindless enjoyment but it was nothing perfect. Like the other anon said, Hux was a very underwhelming expy of Tarkin. The not-Asian lady of wisdom Maz alien added nothing but being a generic plot-device for exposition of the Jedi and Force to Rey, the movie more or less almost completely parrots the entire storyline of A New Hope and bits and pieces of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
It adds nothing memorable to the franchise, it's not particularly creative from a narrative or world building standpoint. In fact there was not a single bit of lore or world building done and the entire pacing largely consists after the Stormtroopers/First Order raid on Jakku to events that largely seem to progress without any pause in a period that could be said in less then a day without any sort of flow to make sense of them.
And one of its biggest issues is the dialogue, Finn single-handily makes it feel less like Star Wars somehow and more like a typical generic capes n suits movie. Nothing he said or the way he spoke is remotely approriate for the mythos with his character:
>Droid, please!
>Aw hell naw!
>You have a cute boyfriend?
>Whose in charge now? Whose in charge now? I'm in charge now!
Its a fun movie but its pretty much derivative and soulless otherwise on its own. At least even the prequel's added new settings, plots, and anything else. TFA was just...vanilla. I'm not even going to get into the characters or their lack of development but really, people are blowing out how good this movie really is with a huge amount of bias.
>>13654759
>having problems with DROID PLEASE
>>13654732
>completely bland and added nothing to contrast himself from Ren
although it's still kind of weird seeing a somewhat competent general and a not so competent NotSith
>>13652172
TRAITOR
Fucking Stark Jegan/Byarlant Custom of the movie. Does he have a figure?
Anyone else really dig Kylo's lightsaber? I love that it's crackling because its crystal is fractured and that the crossguard's are more like exhaust vents
>>13654777
How do you take a guy with that much of a high-pitched, shrilly tinny voice as competent? He came off almost as much a petulent child as Ren did after his second half character transition with his face reveal.
>>13654772
Yes, I have problems with dialogue that doesn't remotely sound proper for a Star Wars movie in terms of slang and general vernacular. Did you not have issues with how Finn spoke?
>>13654779
>. Does he have a figure?
he kind of does actually http://tamashii.jp/item/11206/
>>13654777
Hubris is really the deciding factor for how effective an imperial suit is.
Hubris tends to cost them superweapons. It's embarrassing how Tarkin could've defeated the Rebels at Yavin if he just deployed the TIE fighters en masse.
>>13654779
>>13654777
I loved it when that lieutenant was all "NAH FUCK THIS SHIT, I'M OUT" whenthe Starkiller base was FUBARed
It's an obvious counterpoint to Grand Moff "Evacuate now? In our moment of triumph?" Tarkin, but it was still pretty funny.
>>13654784
No because I'm not autistic and incapable of accepting the rise of Black Basic Vernacular 30 years after the end of Space World War II.
>>13654808
>I'm not autistic
You're on /m/.
>>13654814
I'm not 4chan autistic.
>>13654821
Yes you are.
>>13654823
>>13654821
that's a pity, we've managed to keep the thread pretty civil until you clowns showed up
>>13654829
But we aren't insulting each other, just disagreeing about autism. I think if anything you are ruining the thread with this sort of meta-nonsense.
>>13654808
But seriously have whatever standards you want, Finn's dialogue was world-breaking to me and nonsensical. You might as well just shrug and accept ebonics and be fine with it but that isn't Star Wars.
Why were the two troopers talking about T-71s? considering the T-70 is an X-wing how did either know how they perform?
>>13654846
What was the point of showing them talking anyway?
>>13654836
It is Star Wars 30 years after blowing Sheev's disco ball up.
>>13654860
Don't care, that isn't addressing my point or argument.
>>13654863
How am I supposed to explain to you how languages evolve and that come time for the Star Wars equivalent of the cold war it's perfectly understandable that some variation of nigga please would be part of basic Basic?
30 years man. 30 years. People will talk like that after 30 years.
>>13654871
>languages evolve
Languages do not evolve over such a short time period and speaking in a way and format that is completely alien to the entire franchise while throwing out nonsensical statements is not an example of your claims to be contrary.
>>13654871
>>13654860
>actually being so /reddit/ tier that you are defending DROID, PLEASE and all of Finn's utterly garbage lines in this movie
Not that anon but I bet you thought Driver's performance was good too. Sad this is what the fandom has turned into.
>>13654871
I don't know man, Finn's lines felt as cringeworthy as anything written out of a corny super shitty Tyler Perry comedy story. They wanted the Guardians of the Galaxy audience with most of the shit he says.
>>13654874
>>13654874
>Languages do not evolve over such a short time period
They do, actually.
>>13654876
>if I say reddit that means I win the argument
My shields can't repel autism of this magnitude.
>>13654640
>The radar dish that broke off was replaced with a different model
Cute.
>>13654759
There was alot more joking and such yes. I know the original trilogy had it's moments but most of it was just what happened on screen (ie Han having the toolbox fall on him in ESB) and not because of quips the characters say.
On the other hand 1-3 were so far up their own ass with their dead srsness I kind of took it as an improvement all things considered.
>>13654742
>some random stormtrooper takes the badass initiative, goes toe-to-toe with a lightsaber
>meanwhile, Captain Phasma is captured and thrown in the trash compactor like some punk bitch
Honestly, that little duel should have been between Finn and Phasma, it would have made more sense. Still, watching the mooks who were most famous for being cannon fodder suddenly become competent, intimidating soldiers was pretty kickass. I was actually rooting for that TRAITOR guy for a bit there.
>>13654949
I thought it was pretty cool to see just how good they were at fighting throughout. Like when the X-wings came in for the first strafing run, they immediately dropped what they were doing and took up defensive positions while shouting useful information at each other.
>>13654958
They've come a long way since the times of pretend-dying to blaster fire by leaping backwards in exaggerated motions.
>>13654894
They don't, actually, Look at how Vulgar Latin took centuries to evolve as an off-branch from Classical Latin.
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13651409
>>13653614
>U
but it's clearly a C.
>>13655111
Sorry, I meant E.
>>13655107
I wonder ho big that stacks up compared to Spaceball One.
>>13654157
>>13654053
Even if Mark Hamill is too old and tired to do too much lightsabering they can probably just have him fight with the power of the Force or something.
>>13654157
The beard does wonders for his scarred face
>>13655134
Between stunt doubles and some CG I'm sure they could get him doing some more physical stuff if they really wanted it. Still, I think your idea is probably a better one for the role he's meant to be playing.
>>13655134
He dropped like 60 pounds, he's fine for some stuff if someone much older like Ian managed it, same with Christopher Lee.
>>13655134
>Luke using the Force to fight
He was already ridiculous enough in the EU, can you imagine what crazy shit they would make him do in a movie to satisfy both their special effects addiction and their fanboyism?
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13654308
[pressure steady]
It saddens me we won't see a decent Star Wars game as long as EA hold the rights.
![1418972655208[1].webm](https://i.imgur.com/WxFpU0U.jpg "1418972655208[1].webm")
AAARRRGGHHH
>>13655316
TREASON
Just going to leave this here.
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13652853
More like it was just an excuse for more x-wing wank.
>>13652272
I just wish the standard Tie fighters were closer to the Advance, or Interceptor in appearance.
And on the Resistance, aside from now only having X-Wings, it was also disappointing that they were still too similar to the original version.
>>13655316
Hey, you want to hear how Mace died?Thrown out of the windu.
>The nameless stormtrooper doing mele is more popular than the female boba fett.
Nice one Abrams.
>>13655684
Phasma didn't really do much. Starktrooper was an awesome surprise, though.
>>13655094
Look at how the modern English language is constantly mutating year after year.
>>13655681
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
are there any webms of star-killer's weapon kicking the shit through things?
>>13654898
man alive, these EU fucks just don't give up
>>13654759
Of course it was flawed. It was about as flawed as Empire or Jedi or A New Hope was
Also I suggest you rewatch the originals. The dialogue is a lot more casual than you remember, it just happens to be very 70s-influenced.
I agree that the pacing was weird, and it failed in that regard to properly set up significant locations. But lore? The lore is delivered in the same way it was in a New Hope. Just little hints of it here and there in dialogue and even the characters. Hux and Ren are even hinting at the First Order's relatively quick rise to power when they talk about cloned soldier versus kidnapped soldiers. I know what you mean, I felt the same way the first time I watched it, but when I saw it again the little details stuck out more dramatically to me.
>>13655463
man, the old trooper helmets look kinda dumb in retrospect
>>13655094
you are literally retarded
>>13655316
I love the little trot Mace does to get out of Sheev's office.
>>13654790
If not for the Force cheating, Tarkin would have won.
>>13656238
Wow, I never noticed what a shit fight that was before. What the hell was that first guy to die doing? He's like 'Did you say something, Mace? Owwww.'
>>13654333
The BDs really cleaned up the AT-ATs because they didn't look anywhere near that good previously.
Speaking of which, how do you say it? At-At or A-T-A-T? I've always done the latter.
>>13654626
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>>13654640
I love cross-section books like you wouldn't believe.
>>13653945
Ben, what have you done to the Jedi?
>>13656238
Oh my god. That is terrible and so many levels.
I am actually afraid to rewatch the prequels now. They are probably much worse than I remember.
>>13656298
A-T A-T
Saying At At sounds silly, especially since it doesn't work for the AT-ST
>>13656400
>>13656221
Dank shitpost
>>13651519
Damn is there anywhere to hold a prisoner on this sucker that isn't RIGHT next to something important
>>13652172
TRAITOR
>>13654157
Damn, Mark. Now go, and bring back Wing Commander!
>>13656554
the hidden compartment
>>13656472
Jesus the CGI hurts my eyes
>>13656472
Those poor clone troopers.
>>13656472
>that Clone that gets killed by Yoda up close
>let me waddle as close to the deadly creature wielding a glowing stick as I possibly can
What the hell even?
>>13656797He's in Chris Robert's new game
>>13656827
I dunno I think Yoda's still holding up better in the prequels than his time as a muppet in the OT.
The real distracting thing about the PT is the moment you realize/remember how frequently they used bluescreens, so backdrops lack a sense of tangibility to them. But then again I'm one to cut the PT slack in that regard because it sells the timeframe of the prequels as having more polish to it than the worn down and weary look that the OT had... if any of that makes sense to you guys.
>>13652172
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>>13656891
Rewatching the OT, there's some stuff that has not aged well.
Like all of those shots in RotJ which are clearly matte painting backgrounds, and it comes across as REALLY noticeable in BD quality.
>>13657112
800x343 is BD quality?
>>13657126
No I was just pulling up one of the scenes that uses a matte.
>>13657127
Though its true some of the rips you find of it aren't exactly top quality.
>>13654640
I find it interesting that they go out of their way to mention Unkar Plutt refuses to discuss how he actually acquired the Falcon and that he also refused to let it be stripped for parts. Then again, Alan Dean Foster's novelization apparently has him chase the crew all the way to Takodana to get it back. Hmm.
>>13657112
I thought the SE, DVD and BD versions replaced the mattes with CG. I only noticed it on the old LD rip and the Despecialized edition.
![Return of the Jedi.mkv_snapshot_00.51.45_[2015.12.22_21.54.16].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/r81080D.jpg "Return of the Jedi.mkv_snapshot_00.51.45_[2015.12.22_21.54.16].jpg")
>>13657112
Wow... The Despecialized edition looked so much better.
>>13657507
The two things that confused the shit out of everyone when Lucas made the current DVD/BD version were making the masters 1080p, and throwing the color temp way the fuck off in every scene. The color temp thing was particularly confusing because only 5-7 years before he very pointedly had the SE restoration team use his own personal technicolor copy as a reference.
>>13657541
>Blu-Ray
>must be bluer
>>13656238
>>13656400
A lot of this is that Ian McDiarmid is an old fuck and couldn't really learn the flashy fucking saber combat everyone else had; you can tell the few times he really gets going they pasted his head on another actor's body, but the CG isn't quite there yet. I was actually hoping they'd go full BEAST MODE and just have him be a blurry mess because what we got looks kinda goofy. Everyone just has to stand there and act like he's rad as fuck as he just kinda lunges at them.
On the other hand, McDiarmid looks like he's having so much fucking fun that I can't really stay mad at it.
>>13657565
Seriously. The Tantive IV shots look blue as fuck, when the originals are stark white. Hell, it was stark white again a year later in final scenes of RotS.
>>13655184
>>13655134
>After being fatally wounded in the battle between the Singing Mountain Clan and the Nightsisters, Luke was able to instinctively heal himself in the span of mere hours.
>With guidance from the voice of Ben Kenobi, Luke gave in to the Force and found that time seemed to slow down considerably, allowing him fight with dramatically enhanced reflexes.
>Luke safely landed himself and Isolder from a free fall drop from orbit with the Force.
>In the middle of a massive midday meal food fight at the Jedi Praxeum's mess hall, Luke instantly froze every morsel, drop and item, solid and liquid in midair as if trapped in time, only falling after Luke had consciously released everything within the room.
>Luke was able to knock down an AT-AT by pressing against it with the Force; he also absorbed the initial cannon blasts from the AT-AT, before deflecting the rest with his lightsaber.
>In combat, Luke was able to destroy a group of hot-wired battle droids just by waving his hand, subtly displacing their master servos and causing the self-destruction of the group of droids.
>during the Black Fleet Crisis, Luke used the Force to rebuild Darth Vader's old fortress on Coruscant. Luke would later use the Force to crush the rebuilt fortress of Darth Vader to rubble, shattering the building piece by piece and throwing it into the oceans of Coruscant.
>During the Battle of Dantooine during the Yuuzhan Vong War, Luke managed to telekinetically sustain a black hole while simultaneously flinging the dovin basals into it.
>In arguably the greatest fight of his life, Luke Skywalker walked Beyond shadows and had a final duel with Abeloth. Using his bare hands and offensive Force exertisons, Luke was able to temporarily destroy the dark side entity, with help from Darth Krayt, who also attacked Luke as well halfway through, and attempted to drain him.
>>13657607
>During the Eye of Palpatine incident, Luke subconsciously used his Force powers to overcome a particularly vicious form of brainwashing, able to easily siphon all the information he was seeking.
>While searching for the kidnapped Solo children, Luke used the Force to create an illusion over his face in order to disguise his identity. After the Black Fleet Crisis, with new found knowledge from the White Current, Luke removed the Teljkon Vagabond from view using the Force.
>During the Death Seed Plague, Luke used the Force to communicate with the sentient crystals Tsils; despite the fact that the more dissimilar the type of mind, the more difficult it is to communicate with via the Force.
>Toward the end of the Swarm War, Luke used the Force to call all the Jedi across the galaxy to Ossus to make the announcement of him taking on the role as Grand Master of the Jedi Order and to issue his views about the role of the Order to his Jedi.
>While he was re-creating the Jedi Order and was searching for potential candidates, he walked on lava while still throbbing with the Force after defeating a Fireworm living in the lava just moments before.
>During the early days of the Dark Nest Crisis, Luke used the Force to generate a physical copy of the Jade Shadow to fool the attacking dartships. This usage of the Force was so extreme, Luke burnt out and his face was temporarily sunken and shriveled like Palpatine's.
>While battling UnuThul, Luke was able to resist the combined Force power of the Colony and triumph. When UnuThul attempted to Force Push the Grand Master, Luke rooted himself with the Force so strongly that it was said that he had become the very essence of the immovable object, and that not even the black hole at the center of the galaxy could move him.
>>13657569
He only reached his 60s in the prequels, a good 20 years younger than Lee. I think they just couldn't figure out how to make the ancient sith sorceror use a lightsaber.
>>13657616
>During the Battle of Kashyyyk, Luke shut his presence down after being fired upon by Jaina to make it seem like he died. Later while Ben was in the Embrace of Pain, Jacen gave Ben back his ability to sense the Force temporarily and Ben felt the life force of his father and realized Luke was shutting himself down to everyone except Ben, something no other Jedi has been able to do.
>Right before the Battle of Fondor, Luke made Caedus "see" a fleet of ships, causing him to panic in front of his navy. Luke directed it right at Caedus in general, to show him what he could do and also to scare Caedus.
>Luke revealed to Jaina Solo that he was capable of perceiving Shatterpoints, a very rare Force ability
>During the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar, Luke had shown himself capable of consciously reaching a state of Oneness. He was described as a maelstrom of luminous Force energy, against which there was no shelter. So calm and focused was he that his actions were not interrupted by any thought. Luke merged with the Force to such a degree that the Jedi Master did not seem to be there, physically or as an individual personality. Luke's control over his lightsaber blade was so great that he was said to might as well have been wielding ten, or twenty lightsabers against the Vong.
>Luke used a powerful and unique ability of the Force related to his signature green Electric Judgment in the chamber of Shimrra Jamaane. This technique had been described to look like "green sparks," which instantly killed the Slayers.
>Skywalker learned the "lightning-rod" technique Ayna-seff, which he use to safely travel through the Kathol Rift.
>>13657622
>After spending time with the Aing-Tii, Luke was taught the Fold space ability which allowed him to teleport objects vast distances.
>By 45 ABY, Luke had great resilience in Force duels, able to break a powerful Force grip on his neck, and take a full blast of Force lightning to the torso.
>During his duel with the Columi Qresh brothers, Luke dispensed powerful blasts of Force energy that manifested itself as golden flame.
>Upon death, Luke was able to retain his consciousness in the Netherworld of the Force, and could henceforth manifest himself in spirit form.
>Luke was proficient in unarmed combat. He was able to defeat Guri, who was an expert in unarmed combat. He often used physical attacks when he was in lightsaber combat to defeat enemies like Jabba's thugs to even kicking Darth Vader down a stair case in their final duel. In the duel at the lake of apparitions, Luke killed the entity Abeloth by pushing his elbow through Abeloth's head. He also overpowered Darth Krayt when the Dark Lord tried to Force drain him by bashing him and throwing him to the surface of the lake.
>Luke was able to speak a variety of languages such as Galactic Basic, Huttese, Jawa Trade language, Shyriiwook,and Yuzz, and he claimed to know twelve other common languages.
>>13657569
They should have just had Sheev just sitting in his office chair and force controlling several light sabers without ever getting up so that he continues to come off as being beyond this shit. I think the image of him sitting and mocking in his office chair as several light sabers fly around him attacking targets at will is pretty cool. Especially if he throws in some force pushes, force lightning and so on to break it up and make it all the more difficult to combat him.
>>13657633
>Though Luke received little training, he became an exceptionally skilled Jedi in combat, making him one of the most powerful Jedi to ever live.
>In the fight against Darth Sidious, during Operation Shadow Hand, he rebelled against the reborn Emperor and despite losing initially, Luke again engaged Sidious in a final duel. The fight was so intense that Leia could hardly see the movements of Luke as he engaged the Emperor, but she sensed waves of power generating from them—dark from the Emperor, and light from Luke. Luke took the upper hand and sliced off the Emperor's hand with cho mai. Darth Sidious, whose lightsaber prowess rivaled that of Yoda's, laid defeated.
>Luke was also able to display his amazing dueling skills with dual blades during the Yuuzhan Vong War. When his nephew, Jacen Solo, was captured by the Yuuzhan Vong Luke wielded his own blade, as well as Jacen's, and easily defeated three Yuuzhan Vong Warriors, before freeing Jacen. Later in the Yuuzhan Vong War, Luke participated in the Battle of Artorias and defeated over a dozen Yuuzhan Vong Warriors. Luke's abilities with a lightsaber allowed him to fight his way through countless Yuuzhan Vong warriors in the Sacred Precinct. After defeating numerous Yuuzhan Vong warriors in Shimrra's Citadel, Luke defeated more than five Slayers; while Kyp Durron, one of the most powerful Jedi of his time, could not best the Slayers who were exposed to Alpha Red. Afterward, Luke slew Supreme Overlord Shimrra Jamaane, who was stated to be the best warrior of the Yuuzhan Vong, despite being injured by the poison of the Scepter of Power.
>>13657607
>>13657616
>>13657622
>>13657633
>In the Crystal Star, Luke was a whiny bitch.
I guess they leave that one out.
>>13657648
>>During the Battle of Tenupe, Luke dueled Raynar Thul, who at the time could draw on the Force energy of every single nest member and Joiner, and was able to defeat him by cutting off his dominant hand. Before he could get Raynar to surrender he was attacked by the Queen of the Dark Nest, Lomi Plo. Although Lomi Plo wielded two lightsabers, Luke was still able to block her attacks and kill her by slicing her into four pieces, thus destroying the Dark Nest and ending the Swarm War.
>During Luke's exile, the Lost Tribe of Sith sent out a strike team to kill the Jedi Grand Master. Despite being outnumbered, Luke along side Ben, fought his way through approximately fifteen Sith until only the Sith Lady, Olaris Rhea, and her apprentice, Vestara Khai, remained. Luke dueled the both of them and killed Olaris, only allowing Vestara to escape so he could track her with a Blood Trail.
>While looking for the Sith on Dromund Kaas Luke, Ben, Vestara, and Jaina Solo were attacked by 10 Sith sabers led by Gavar Khai. Despite being outnumbered and the Sith powered by Dromund Kaas' dark side nexus, the Jedi and Vestara fought them. Luke and Jaina fought back to back, bonded by the Force, in perfect harmony and defeated six attacking Sith.
>>13652272
>>13652310
I agree with both of you.
>>13652172
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>>13657607
>>13657616
>>13657622
>>13657633
>>13657648
>>13657656
Man I'd forgotten how bullshit the Force got during the EU. The stuff in the movies is so tame in comparison. What do people actually do in the movies? Force push and pull, laser deflection, better spacial awareness and low level telepathy and that's probably it?
>>13657569
>After being fatally wounded in the battle between the Singing Mountain Clan and the Nightsisters, Luke was able to instinctively heal himself in the span of mere hours.
I know you're pulling this from Wookiepedia, but it still pisses me off that they don't mention the raddest fucking part where he gets up and promptly controls the entire goddamned Millennium Falcon with his mind. Not to mention his healing was DBZ as fuck. PEOPLE OF DATHOMIR, LEND ME YOUR POWER
>>13657727
What. I meant to link
>>13657607
>>13657636
that actually sounds pretty badass, but hard to do at the same time. is there anytime where a flying sword did most of the business?
>>13655463
wheres the version with the clone troopers helmets?
>>13657745
>is there anytime where a flying sword did most of the business?
Kreia in KOTOR2
>>13652172
See also J, K, L wings.
>>13654842
>>13657706
In the movies it's:
-Push/Pull
-Jumps (at least think that's it)
-Lightning
-Choke
-Mind Trick
-Stopping Lasers in mid air
-Holding someone in place
>>13657745
In the Rise of Vader book he hunts some Jedi down and I can't remember his name but Vader basically floats his light saber and shreds a bridge apart to use as shrapnel. Was pretty rad.
>>13656499
thanks, senpai
>>13656856
>game
>not Chris Robert's New Scam
>>13657970
>-Stopping Lasers in mid air
This has actually been around longer than most people will realize. Force Freeze was in the SNES Super Star Wars games. I was actually fucking giddy in the theater because I never thought I'd see anyone use that power again, but Kylo stopped that blaster bolt in the opening scene.
>>13656238
I imagine he's trotting because Samuel L Jackson is trying not to crash into the green wall right behind him.
keep in mind all post acquisition side materials are canon. which includes non conflicting information in the novelisation of TFA.
>force tree
literally what?
>>13657970
There's also Force Speed in TPM. Qui Gon and Obi Wan use it to escape the Droidekas on the Trade Federation ship.
