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what wentwrong?
>>13597846
It's a Gundam series.
The series is not even done yet and everything has gone right so far.
>>13597846
You didn't raise your flag.
>>13597846
Absilutely nothing, it's the best gundam in 15 years
Production value, it would be one of the best gundam shows if it was animated by studio 1
>>13597846
>Uninspired plot
>Setting feels incredibly forced and artificial
>spends a large time on character drama, but the writing is shit so the characters are as well
>very poor art quality
>very poor animation quality as well
At least it can only go up from here, right?
>>13597846
everything
its fucking shit
Not enough Muppet-Atra!
>what went wrong ?
>>>/v/
>>13597846
Aaaaaand reported. This is cleary a shitposting thread, goddamm this board is turning into a shithole
>>13597846
They made Orphans that Jontron was scared of
>>13597846
Absolutely nothinghappens.
>>13597846
And we interrupt this broadcast to tell you yet again why being an orphan isn't too nice.
>>13597846
look at how hard these childrens lives are. Dont have children guys. Think of the children, you dont want them to live such terrible lives. .
>>13597846
Being called "Gundam".
Every scene with Atra makes me rock hard. She is just so fuckable looking
>>13597929
They even use that same ending song
every. fucking. episode.
Same with the OP.
Production quality problems maybe?
>>13597846
Low production values, bad dialog, erratic pacing, large cast of bland one dimensional characters.
not enough chocolate man
>>13597846
too much talking about the same things in all the episodes
>>13597846
It's just boring. There's no horrendous failure or amazing trainwreck, there's just nothing I can care about on any level.
>>13597846
Few fights.
Fights arent very good.
Those are the biggest issues, the rest is fine.
>>13597846
Nice meme, can't wait till you post it again next week.
>>13598257
An anime that uses the same OP and ED?
I can scarcely believe it.
>Warned of trainwreck in advance.
>Trainwreck occurs.
>WHAT WENT WRONG!!!??
>>13601939
>>13597846
Repeating a lot of information episode after episode
>>13597846
1 - tries way too hard to keep braindevastated idiots on board by dumping exposition sequences and repeating known information all the time
2 - introduces interesting concepts yet does nothing but sit on them
3 - action sequences are mediocre
4 - everyone likes to sit and talk far more than they like to act, stop talking about doing things, just do it
5 - Gjallahorn have the only two funny characters of the show and we never get to see them
6 - too many characters, lots of them are irrelevant which only makes a procrastinating plot lose even more focus on farting around
7 - Biscuit
>>13597879
>uninspired plot
gundam hasn't been inspired in a long time, if anything this one's been a breath of fresh air (disregarding BF and BFT)
>Setting feels incredibly forced and artificial
how?
>spends a large time on character drama, but the writing is shit so the characters are as well
I can understan complaining over kudelia but do you know what gundam is? it's a space opera toy commercial franchise of course there's gonna be drama and it's characters are some of the best we've had in a while, Orga and Mika alone show more personality than recent gundam MCs
>>13602422
>faggot defending a shit show
no one cares
>>13602425
then why'd you reply?
>>13602450
to bait him, why else
>>13601939
>Warned of trainwreck in advance
>>13602422
>gundam hasn't been inspired in a long time, if anything this one's been a breath of fresh air (disregarding BF and BFT)
Someone skipped G-Reco
>how?
they are forcing you to investime and to care about characters because they will eventually kill them to force some emotional moments.
>spends a large time on character drama, but the writing is shit so the characters are as well
I can't agree to this point because on IBO defense it's pretty well written and it isnt a cluster fuck, plus the characters may be a bit bland but they aren't badly written.
>>13602462
She's alright anon
>>13602525
>they are forcing you to investime and to care about characters because they will eventually kill them to force some emotional moments.
They're doing a pretty bad job at it
>>13602539
Only because it feels forced. I can't really care for the Teiwaz girls because I know they will die soon
Waste way too much time explaining shit that could easily just be shown on screen
At this point they've introduced a load of pointless, undeveloped characters (with obvious deathflags) and expect people to be moved by the inevitable massacre in the coming episodes. Though considering the audience of this show seems to wank Mika off for being such a badass who never hesistates to kill (even though literally every protag in UC minus Banana did this) I wouldn't be surprised to see all the comments on the streaming sites/MAL/ /a/ saying "oh man I shed MANLY TEARS when that guy died like if u agree dis is the best gundam ever its so mature"
>>13602525
>IBO
>pretty well written
Not particularly but more importantly, not being a clusterfuck doesn't mean it's well written.
>>13602572
>not being a clusterfuck doesn't mean it's well written.
People here think Code Geass was well written
The character exposition reminds me of AGE so much. It's like everyone is fucking spriggan.
>>13597846
Not cancelled.
>Mika, while I won't say he is uninteresting comes off as a little too worldly considering he's basically an attack dog. And, his VA sucks to the point he has no on screen chemistry with anybody.
>Kudelia though, she's fucking awful. Her character development while consistent is done by making her a fucking retard who needs Mika/Atra to tell her how to feel. She has barely interacted with anybody out of Mika/Atra/Fumitan and even then she has barely affected those three anyways. She could easily be written out of the story at this point, and it wouldn't suffer much.
>No complaints with Orga.
>Atra is alright, comes off as goofy and innocent. Doesn't eat up too much time.
>>13602581
>People here think Code Geass was well written
Some of it was. Then it wasn't. And then it was again. Anyway...
>>13597846
not enough mace or Fairy Atra
>>13603506
and this
>>13602581
Now this is a pretty scary thought.
>>13602586
/thread
AGE had much more mecha porn though.
>>13603506
I think Mika is the worst part. Notice how he never gets discussed in threads, it's cause there is fuck all to discuss about him. He doesn't even care about the main conflict of the show. The only people who liked him at first with idiots going omg he is so brutal cause they had never fucking scene victory to know what brutal actually is. Plus it will be painful if they go with a killing is badong thing (probably after some boys die of he kills gut's brother) but like all development in this show it will be tacked on as they have no idea how to thread it through a show
Kudelia is just insulting
>>13603814
Yeah Mika isn't even that brutal compared to some shit in the past. Ohhh he killed a guy mid sentence. Whooooopty fuckin doooo.
That isn't brutal it's rude Senpai.
>>13603834
Even if he kills most of the pilots next episode I think he'll still have one of the lowest mid show kill counts. Even just disabling suits including killing he'd be one of the lowest
>>13603814
>>13603834
>>13603838
don't you talk that way about my beautiful fuckboi
>>13603847
>Big Blocky eyes
>Lizard Spine
Come on he's ugly so many better boys in his own show alone.
>>13603852
>lizard spine
its his charm and handling point
>>13603814
>>13603834
>>13603838
OFFICIAL GUNDAM PILOT POWER RANKINGS
1.Amuro Ray
2.Domon Kasshu
3.Usso Ewin/Evin/Ebbing
4.Kamille Bidan
5.JewDough
6.Seabook Arno
7.Heero
8.Kira Yamato
9.Bellri "Warning Shot" Zenam
10.Garrod Ran
1001.Asuno Family
10001.Setsuna
100001.Banana
1000001.Mika
>>13597846
Polygamist propaganda.
>>13603814
>dude mika is so cool he's usually a quiet calm guy but push him too far and you'll regret it haha he's just like me
>>13597846
They've been going a tad excessive with the "Term?" question style of conversation.
>>13603911
I think you mean "term I should already know about?"
"Orphans no Namida" music video is out. Link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pyfH3oj_eg
>>13603902
He said what went wrong, not what went right.
>>13603899
>Usso Ewin/Evin/Ebbing
>Uso Ebin
Uso confirmed for browsing 4chan. No wonder he is such brutal individual.
>>13603972
>Uso Ebin
>U So Ebin
>>13603902
If anything this is one of the few rights about IBO.
>>13603652
>And then it was again
>>13603506
>Mika, while I won't say he is uninteresting comes off as a little too worldly considering he's basically an attack dog
Okada wrote Mika like a cliche tool that of course can think a bit for himself from time to time. At least more than Kudelia.
>Kudelia though, she's fucking awful. Her character development while consistent is done by making her a fucking retard who needs Mika/Atra to tell her how to feel. She has barely interacted with anybody out of Mika/Atra/Fumitan and even then she has barely affected those three anyways. She could easily be written out of the story at this point, and it wouldn't suffer much.
Kudelia is not even a character, just a plot device. Idiots like her because of her design and are genuinely convinced she's struggling with some sort of meaningful inner conflict.
>No complaints with Orga.
Still a pretty naive character for someone who had no problem ordering his friend to put down the evil, evil adults.
>Atra is alright, comes off as goofy and innocent. Doesn't eat up too much time.
The great thing about Atra is that unlike the other characters, Okada is not pretending that she's more than what she is.
>>13603814
I remember a lot of idiots praising Mika for being "a MC who's not scared about killing people, how refreshing!". Meme eaters. Probably thought that SnK Mikasa was some kind of great character too.
>>13603972
But anon, Ebin isn't 4chan!
>>13603990
>Okada wrote Mika like a cliche tool that of course can think a bit for himself from time to time. At least more than Kudelia.
Agreed.
>Kudelia is not even a character, just a plot device. Idiots like her because of her design and are genuinely convinced she's struggling with some sort of meaningful inner conflict.
I don't disagree with you though. Replace Kudelia with a WMD, change a few things around, and done. Story doesn't suffer.
>Still a pretty naive character for someone who had no problem ordering his friend to put down the evil, evil adults.
I don't have problems with Orga mostly because it makes sense he is now in charge of running a business on top of his other responsibilities.
I dropped AGE, tried only the first episode of Reco-G and now I don't even care for this one... should I go back and give Reco-G an honest try or just give up on Gundam?
>>13604018
>>13604018
Give it a try.
I remember when I first watching Turn-AIt was a snore fest at the beginning but holy hell its good
>>13604018
G-Reco demands from the viewer to constantly pay attention, question what's going on and be able to put information together. If you're not familiar with Tomino it's probably not a good starting point.
>>13604057
>there doesn't seem to be a huge motivation behind each one of them
Tomino tried to save Nippon with his last Gundam though.
>>13604057
>there doesn't seem to be a huge motivation behind each one of them other than money
Sounds like pretty much anything Sunrise made after SEED. With the exceptions of Studio 8 stuff where you can tell that passion went into their shows regardless of how sound they ended up.
>>13604073
what did studio 8 do?
>>13604084
>Established around 1995, it is notable for works including My-HiME, Buddy Complex, Idolmaster: Xenoglossia, The Girl Who Leapt Through Space, Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere, Accel World and Love Live!.
>>13603814
What I appreciate about Mika is that he's more believable as a child soilder than most protags usually are. I don't expect a endlessly quipping, child sized 80s action hero or a Kira. I expect a fucked up individual.
I do agree that Kudelia is a bit annoying, but it makes sense that a spoiled rich girl out her element is going to struggle.
>>13603899
>Heero that high
sure Heero is efficient as hell, but he's not that good pilot, Duo is might be better pilot than him
How the scenes flow has a really odd pacing
Instead of flowing together nicely they can feel like blocks of different information
>>13604282
>I do agree that Kudelia is a bit annoying
>but it makes sense that a spoiled rich girl out her element is going to struggle
It's up to the writer to make said struggle interesting. Kudelia is annoying because Okada has nothing to say about her aside from dumping her into an endless loop of inner monologues until the episode count is high enough and character development can magically occur. Also it's sad that the best to be said about Mika is "he's alright but only because others did it worse".
>>13604302
Because every "character" is a block indepedant of the plot. By character I'm talking about designs associated with a name and seiyuu. Seems like that's all Japan needs for characters.
>>13604282
What's weird though is the flashbacks have shown that he was always just like that, wasn't anything to do with being a child soldier. While I agree is makes sense for his character to be like that he just is not interesting in the least bit
Plus it makes it weird how the rest of the boys are in general quite normal.
>>13604307
well said. Okada has mistaken weak for not doing anything
>>13597846
Allowing vermin to fester, they have only dragged this series down to a screeching halt.
>>13604311
Mika being a terminator wannabe has nothing to do with him being child soldier.
It's very obvious during the opening sequence when Orga realized that Mika has a few screws loose or when you put it next to any other "child solder" in the show.
IBO problem is that's it's a big bag of ideas the creators are masturbating to insead of actually developing and doing things with.
yawn another of these threads...
>>13604317
Yeah, but I kind of expected them to do something with it. Not every girl wanting his dick, and random people actually liking him.
>>13604356
You make it sound like some LN adaptation.
>>13604282
>What I appreciate about Mika is that he's more believable as a child soilder than most protags usually are.
Found the retard
>>13604073
>With the exceptions of Studio 8 stuff where you can tell that passion went into their shows regardless of how sound they ended up.
>>13604085
>My-HiME, Buddy Complex, Idolmaster: Xenoglossia, The Girl Who Leapt Through Space, Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere, Accel World and Love Live!.
Thanks for the laugh, biggest irony in this is that the director of IBO was also behind Xenoglossia.
>>13604396
>the director of IBO was also behind Xenoglossia
Anime truly only gets worse with time.
>>13604282
Mika is interesting insofar that he's exactly what Uso was talking about during his speech to Marbet near the end of Victory, when he wished he was raised as a killer so he wouldn't feel bad about all the killing he does. But then again, they ended up taking about how that's a bad thing and it was good that Uso was raised kindly.
>>13604073
>Sounds like pretty much anything Sunrise made after SEED.
>King Gainer
>Planetes
>The Big O II
>Gundam Evolve
>Kaiketsu Zorori
>Hotori
>Banner of the Stars III
>Cluster Edge
>Wings of Rean
>Zegapain
>Bakumatsu
>Freedom
>Hipira
>Black God
>King of Thorn
>Colorful
>VOTOMS Case;Irvine
>VOTOMS Finder
>Coicent
>Five Numbers
>Tiger and Bunny
>Phi Brain
>Daily Lives of High School Boys
>Natsuiro Kiseki
>Short Peace
>Tribe Cool Crew
>G-Reco
The problem is that you're looking into shit Studio 3 does and not the other divisions in the company.
>Studio 8
>passion
That's there otaku shit studio that's behind shitty LNs like Horizon and Accel World and multimedia projects like Love Live which is the exact opposite of passion.
>>13604307
I'm patient enough to see where it goes and if she improves. Either way, I'm finding IBO interesting despite its flaws.
>>13604311
Other than Biscuit, I wouldn't call them normal, and even Biscuit's got wear and tear. Arhiko's thrown away any self restraint and will go to dangerous lengths to prove his usefulness, Orga has no sense of self worth and is obsessed with family. Even the kids grew up faster than they let on.
>>13604317
Which will probably change in time. This feels more like it's gonna be more of a slow burn of a show instead of breakneck paced like the previous ones.
>>13604437
Which makes it interesting to explore.
What kind of person will Mika grow into throughout the show? What happens if Orga dies? Was Uso right to an extent?
>>13604459
>Orga has no sense of self worth
that sounds like a moody teenager to me. The rest are generally happy, joking around about boobs and stuff like teenagers
Also a slow burn even a slow burn has more actually going on when it is about to hit the half way point and doesn't mean they can't be more interesting
>>13604472
Moody teenagers care more about themselves than anything. When I say self worth, I mean how he fears losing his family over losing his life and will do anything to prevent that, no matter how reckless or shortsighted. We saw that when he refused the first deal to work with the mafia if it meant being seperated. He's more terrified of being alone or failing the kids and Mika than facing certain death.
>>13604521
>I mean how he fears losing his family
You mean his friends, like a teenager especially because teenagers with close friends consider them incredibly important
> reckless or shortsighted
again, teenagers
>>13604527
>>13604527
He considers them more than friends considering he is willing to murder or worse. Any of them dying is going to be a serious blow, a lot of them dying will make him go nuts.
Him being a teenager doesn't mean he didn't grow up fast or hasnt been through shit or make it less interesting in my opinon. Its just that IBO's been the first Gundam show in a while for me where I actually can stand more than two members of the cast in.
>>13604527
He has no family, anon. Your evaluation depends on the teenager having parents and still being an entitled shit.
This guy simply has nothing else but his Tekkadan peeps. Or who do you suggest should he care about more?
