Gundam G-reco
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So /m/, I decided to give this show a chance, (even though my friends told me it wasn't worth it) but I ended up enjoying a lot,
it was like a rare mix between 0079, G, X, Turn A and King Gainer.
Anyway let me get to the point,
I have some questions:
*Was there more than 1 Amerian
Vessel like the Salamandra?(I think that's it's name) because I swear I saw it appear in the last episode.
*Did they ever clarify if Bellri or Mashner we're newtypes?(because around ep16 I heard the same newtype sound from F91 and well mashner being mashner)
*I heard a rumor that the G-self has Wings of light, is this true?
*Are Bellri and Aida really siblings? (Aida's dad left me with the doubt)
*Is the Rose of Hermes the same
information they said were going to use in Turn A?
And finally:
*Did the G-Lucifer really use the Moonlight butterfly? Or was it just an exhaust port like the Freedom and Destiny?
>>13597029
Also
*Was this a GN drive?
>>13597029
>*Was there more than 1 Amerian
Vessel like the Salamandra?(I think that's it's name) because I swear I saw it appear in the last episode.
It was an animation error corrected in the BDs.
>*Did they ever clarify if Bellri or Mashner we're newtypes?
No. The characters mention newtypes sometimes, but it's never clearly stated.
>*I heard a rumor that the G-self has Wings of light, is this true?
Like the V2? No, the G-Self is already OP enough.
>*Are Bellri and Aida really siblings?
Yes.
>*Is the Rose of Hermes the same
information they said were going to use in Turn A?
What information?
>*Did the G-Lucifer really use the Moonlight butterfly?
The visual effect is similar, and Tomino now says G-Reco happens AFTER Turn A, so it could be.
>*Was this a GN drive?
No.
your friend has shit taste being very truthful my upper classman
>>13597031
Considering that G-Reco is the future of Turn-A it's entirely possible.
>>13597064
I watched Turn A like 5 years ago so my memory is a bit foggy, but i kinda remember
something like it being mentioned.
>>13597084
Is this true?
Then why do all the summaries i've read say that it's RG 1014 post U.C.?
>>13597064
>Vessel like the Salamandra?(I think that's it's name) because I swear I saw it appear in the last episode.
>It was an animation error corrected in the BDs.
It wasn't corrected.
>*I heard a rumor that the G-self has Wings of light, is this true?
The assault pack bunny ears make sort of V-2-like wings of light but it's not in the animation.
>*Did the G-Lucifer really use the Moonlight butterfly?
Yes.
>>13597092
Tomino said two months ago that every summary was wrong and RC is actually post Turn-A.
>>13597029
>Was there more than 1 Amerian
Vessel like the Salamandra?(I think that's it's name) because I swear I saw it appear in the last episode
It was an error.
>>13597029
>Did they ever clarify if Bellri or Mashner we're newtypes?(because around ep16 I heard the same newtype sound from F91 and well mashner being mashner)
Tomino confirmed it indirectly. If I remember correctly he said the lyrics of the ending are all about "Will Bellri become a Newtype?".
Mashner is obviously a Newtype. Otherwise she wouldn't know about Rockpie's death that early.
>I heard a rumor that the G-self has Wings of light, is this true?
Yes, the Assault Pack. But it has never been shown in the anime, only in the Try Age card game.
>Are Bellri and Aida really siblings?
Yes, they are. Gusion just didn't know about that, since Cumpa split them without knowing were they would end up.
Flaminia and Yan made a test on them, and they confirmed they are actually siblings.
>Did the G-Lucifer really use the Moonlight butterfly?
Yes, Tomino confirmed it during a night event at the Gundam Café.
Read the whole thing because it is very interesting:
https://nekketsunikki.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/tomino-said-g-reco-takes-place-around-500-years-after-turn-a/
>>13597029
>*I heard a rumor that the G-self has Wings of light, is this true?
You are probably getting confused with the wings the assualt pack has but never used
There is a webm of it being used in some gundam arcade game
>>135971 7
I don't know why but, knowing this makes me happy.
Is there a source or a patebin?
>>13597141
Crap i messed up
Meant to quote this>>13597117
>>13597135
Those are crazy warning shots
>>13597134
>“There’s toilets because you’d want to go to the toilet and it can’t be helped.”
>“One cup of whisky per week keeps the doctor away”
>“I keep looking at AKB girl’s legs. The space between their knees and their skirts”
>>13597089
You should definitely rewatch it, the BDs are fantastic.
>>13597220
I will.
Also, do the movies change anything?
>>13597029
>Possibly, could just be an animation error.
>Never clarified but implied that Bellri is one.
>Only true in an Arcade game with the Assault Pack
>Yes.
>Unclarified.
>Unclarified but apparently the Crescent Ship and that were supposed to be hints that this is post-Turn A.
>>13597031
Nope.
>>13597243
The movies absolutely shit on the pacing and dont have good subs.
>>13597243
watch the series
>>13597134
That old nut! I can't believe I put this show on hold for so long, all of this is great!
>“People don’t grow up if they stay in friendly lukewarm environments”
Is he saying that people don't advance without war?
>“I’m the one who gave the go sign to Imagawa to make G Gundam. It was supposed to be a breakthrough, but it ended up being whatever.”
I supose that G Gundam fans didn't take this calmly, did they?
Also thanks for the webm.
>>13597363
>Is he saying that people don't advance without war?
Nope, he is saying kids should do the same thing Bellri did at the end of G-Reco: explore the world and learn how to live.
>>13597368
I guess he'll like that pokémon app that's coming, huh.
>>13597363
I guess he's saying that people won't grow up if they're not challenged or in a competitive environment. Which is true. If you look at all the man children or bronie societal rejects, they're all the people who have been coddled, avoided any real conflict their whole lives, always had everything go their way. They'll never grow up, they'll just stay children forever.
>>13597141
Because it helps ruin the message of Turn A?
>>13597029
Good on you. I personally felt like it was the single worst thing I'd ever seen, but you're entitled to your opinion.
>>13597385
No it doesn't. Tomino said somewhere the point of Greco being so different is that Turn A broke the cycle of the dark history allowing something new to happen
>>13597387
You're gonna encounter many retards like this while browsing here OP just be warned.
>>13597397
>wow you dislike something, what a retard
Oh please. I bet you liked Turn A, too.
>>13597397
Yeah I noticed last time I was here, I don't get all the falseflagging going on or /a/'s hate towards it.
>>13597405
Well /a/ is filled with retards so its not surprising given their love for schlock like Valvrave and Aldnoah Zero, /m/ has just gotten worse in recent years.
>>13597390
>Tomino said somewhere the point of Greco being so different is that Turn A broke the cycle of the dark history allowing something new to happen
When did he say this?
>>13597424
I don't see it. Care to quote the line?
>>13597414
Well at least I'm glad that the Fafner threads
are peaceful as well as the occasional Vandread thread.
>“There’s no way a beautiful woman with a big chest would be a battleship captain”.
>“I sold the rights for Gundam, so of course I can understand other people are making shows too, but it’s painful and I can’t watch them. But in a sense thanks to this my view broadened.”
>“Sometimes I force myself to watch them, but I can only last 5 minutes.”
So you mean the reason there are bad Gundam shows is because Tomino sold the rights?
>>13597432
>Tomino: It’s the same for all the basic technologies and energy levels. Oh and the biggest reason why Turn A (the mecha) doesn’t show up, is because Turn A is based on a powerful backbone. Without it you can’t just recreate it. In a sense, Turn A was somehow made by accumulating malice from all of the previously existing Gundams. That’s what I thought of when choosing the name Turn A. It was to show that it’s a bunch of things lumped together, and to show that Turn A is a step away, time period wise and mental structure wise.
>Tomino: So then! When I was racking my brains very hard about what to do with G Reco, I thought I had no other choice than to jump 200 or 300 years, so I jumped 1000 years. If I skip 1000 years, not only I can get away from Gundam’s chronological order and history, but I’ll also have enough time behind for the backbone of my own story.
Basically. Turn A represents all the gundam and all the bad things that come from the wars etc (as turn A means for all). Greco gets away from that and he can make a new "backbone"
>>13597458
He doesn't exactly say
>Turn A broke the cycle of the dark history allowing something new to happen
>>13597432
>"During the Q&A, someone asked Tomino to give more details about the relation between G Reco and Turn A"
Start reading from there, it's not those exact words but the message is there.
>>13597465
Yes, and? The meaning is the same.
Turn A has the backbone of the old shows malice
He wanted to get away from that and the history
Has a new backbone
>>13597450
Considering how he says his own shows are bad (specially V) I don't think that's the case.
>>13597450
Tomino never owned the rights, the studio always did. It's either a reference to him selling his idea for the initial series to the studio or the studio being bought by a toy company.
>>13597517
I think what was meant is people assumed he had some kind of rights and when asked there he was surprised and said no
>>13597541
Is that show popular in Japan or something?
>>13597541
poor Bellri ;_;
>>13597414
>given their love for schlock like Valvrave and Aldnoah Zero
Nice fanfic.
>>13597739
>>>/a/134462759
It's a thread about people who love Valvrave.
Not a fanfic
>>13597414
You're implying that most mecha isn't shlock to begin with.
>>13597762
If you honestly believe that then you're not a mecha fan.
>>13597762
/m/ also doesn't talk about most mecha anime. Of all the shows airing only IBO gets proper threads and they are mostly negative
Meanwhile /a/ will eat up whatever as long as it has a character trope they like
>>13597765
You do know you can like something while admitting that it's not that good, right?
>>13597765
Being a fan of a genre doesn't mean that you have to unremittingly adore every show under its umbrella, nor does it mean you have to see every show as good, and let's be very frank, this genre has more than one forgettable or disastrous installment to its name.
>>13597766
>only IBO
anon pls.
>what is Fafner?
>>13597771
The problem is /a/ has got obsessed with train wrecks to the point where they just want to shitpost no mater how fun bad the show is. It's barely about the show now just having a reason to post dumb things. Same happened with /v/ now where every big game must be a huge disaster to shitpost about
>>13597783
A show that no one outside the general watches or cares about
>>13597797
>In the west
FTFY
although that could be said of all mecha anime.
>>13597766
>Of all the shows airing only IBO gets proper threads
>>13597762
>You're implying that most anime isn't shlock to begin with.
FTFY
Also there's a difference between a medium being filled with schlock and actively pursuing it ironically.
>>13597762
>>13597821
Does everyone hate everything? I just think most shows are mediocre. Most things aren't as genuinely terrible as say Valvrave's second second or the last arc of Gundam AGE.
Move to another thread if you want to discuss what is discussed on /m/ right now and what isn't.
>>13597834
I'm with anon, I don't want my thread to become generic meta-discussion #1928
Post Man-Machines at least.
>>13597832
Most mediocre is boring and not worth anyone's time, especially if you have seen a lot of things in that genre which just amplify the problems. That's why most mediocre stuff gets forgotten about
>>13597773
Yes, but that's not the statement that's being commented on.
The statement was "most mecha is schlock"
I'd put the ratio somewhere between 60-70 good, 40-30% schlock.
That's not most the genre. I wasn't saying that all mecha is great for being mecha and that if you don't believe it you aren't a mecha fan.
I'm saying that if you don't honestly believe that the majority of the genre is worth watching then you aren't a mecha fan. You're a fan of the stuff you think is good.
The distinction exists. Idiot.
>>13597793
When IBO was announced /a/, and /m/ as well mind you, was fucking flooded with
>OKADA? TRAINWRECK INC.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>GET READY FOR THE OKADA TRAINWRECK EVERYONE
When the director for Thunderbolt was announced, people also latched on to the fact that he directed Valvrave. You got shit like
>THIS GON BE GOOD, I LOVE ME A TRAINWRECK
>WOAH HO HO ANOTHER GUNDAM TRAINWRECK
The level and quality of discourse on /a/ is just so low, I hate myself for going there to get anime news. There is not a single poster there that watches anime for the content, they watch it show they can shitpost about it or join in on the "memes". Most people there watch a show based on whether or not there are a lot of threads they can shitpost about it in, not because they're actually interested in the anime itself.
Look at IBO threads on /a/ - not a single person there discusses the show in itself, or critiques it. They just mindlessly, quite literally, shit all over the place with shipping garbage. Every criticism towards the show is deflected with "ADHD", ">>>/m/" or "b8".
Not a single person knows a thing about anime on /a/, they just live by board-memes and opinions that are so embarrassingly misinformed and distorted. The demographics of /a/ are /b/-tier now. Sure, /m/ is quite shit, but at least a large amount of people here know what they're talking about to a certain degree.
>>13597855
Well sure but, mediocre != shlock
>>13597243
>Also, do the movies change anything?
Girls don't show their tits anymore.
>>13597834
The thread doesn't really have much going for it. All the question were answer so it will derail
Unless anyone has something to say it may as well turn into something else
>>13597871
But mediocre can easily be shlock. And when a show is generic and not got much worth to it then you can call that shlock.
>>13597855
There's a distinction.
Captain Earth is mediocre.
Valvrave and Cross Ange relied entirely on shock.
Aldnoah Zero is in the middle of those two.
Mediocre doesn't mean bad, if you like it's the equivalent of saying you like vanilla.
Shows that rely on Shock tend to be bad at their core. Since all they have going for it is the "what can we do to invoke a reaction out of the audience"
People tend to remember the strong reactions they had for shows like that, while ignoring all the bad or total lack of substance.
>>13597892
>But mediocre can easily be shlock. And when a show is generic and not got much worth to it then you can call that shlock.
But that's not what mediocre means. Shlock is trash or junk. Mediocre is just average.
>>13597363
>Is he saying that people don't advance without war?
No he means that when you're always living with close family and friends you won't be able to mature effectively.
Tomino always says brutal truths, people who genuinely think the guy is senile need a reality check.
>>13597866
>That's not most the genre.
Really?
Or are we forgetting the absolute slew of crummy mecha shows and OVAs made in the animation boom of the 80s and 90s?
Mecha probably has among the largest catalog of utterly forgettable or middle of the road titles among anime and you're suggesting that, despite that, 70 percent of the genre is great?
>I'm saying that if you don't honestly believe that the majority of the genre is worth watching then you aren't a mecha fan. You're a fan of the stuff you think is good.
Yeah, I'm not obliged to watch crap. No-one is, last I heard.
>>13597924
>Or are we forgetting the absolute slew of crummy mecha shows and OVAs made in the animation boom of the 80s and 90s?
You're exaggerating and not giving any specifics.
You just want to justify your blanket opinion while not being denied as a real fan of the genre. Even if I were to list off every mecha show, video game, comic, film and novel from the 70s till now that I've watched that I found some merit in you'd nitpick them and pick the ones you dislike to try and prove me wrong.
And yes, you're not obligated to watch garbage, but you're also not a mecha fan just because you say you are when you clearly aren't a fan of mecha as a genre and only care about specific content you enjoy.
The fact that you defaulted to only mentioning Ovas and shows as evidence of mecha being mostly schlock is proof of your narrowed perspective in the genre.
>>13597909
But now you are talking about all mediocre again
Yes there are mediocre shows that are worth watching, but a lot of mediocre is just not worth anyone's time. They are generic, rely on cheap tactics over well written stories and are simply not well handled. Shlock an mean cheap or inferior, that would be a good way to describe many mediocre shows
>>13597948
Please do.
In the meantime, I'll go back to viewing mecha shows known and renowned for their excellence and influence, like Daltanious, Dorvack, Acrobunch and Gold Lightan.
>>13597893
There is fancy ass vanilla gelato and there is cheap ass super discount store vanilla. It is fine to like the cheap ass shit sometimes, but if you actually go for just that then it is possible your tastes are just shit
>>13597892
>that sexy Gaeon in the background.
swoon~
>>13597893
Captain Earth is mediocre.
Valvrave and Cross Ange relied entirely on shock and are utterly boring the rest of the time.
Aldnoah Zero is a fat lot of nothing that somehow manages to be painfully pretentious.
>>13597793
Pot calling kettle black, mate. /m/ is just as guilty if not worse, since we as a board still can't let go of Seed Destiny.
>>13597797
This.
Stop acting like father is relevant. Stop trying to Mae. It happen it isn't gonna happen.
>>13597869
>When the director for Thunderbolt was announced, people also latched on to the fact that he directed Valvrave. You got shit like
>>THIS GON BE GOOD, I LOVE ME A TRAINWRECK
>>WOAH HO HO ANOTHER GUNDAM TRAINWRECK
To be fair the Thunderbolt manga is pretty bad in itself.
>>13597869
>The level and quality of discourse on /a/ is just so low, I hate myself for going there to get anime news. There is not a single poster there that watches anime for the content, they watch it show they can shitpost about it or join in on the "memes".
It's not any better here where if you can get anon to do something more than go
>Valvrave
like that's a substitute for an argument, all you get is a heap of meaningless buzzwords piled together that make you question the board's capacity for critical thought, buried under the usual irrelevant fingering of /a/'s taste as if /a/ - anime has to mean /a/ - mecha anime that I like.
I mean for fuck's sake, it's like ever since the advent of generals people get pissed off if, when they leave their hugbox and confront the wild world of other people's opinions, the rest of the world isn't choking on the cock of [arbitrary thing you like].
>>13597031
Nope. GN-Drives doesn't exist it G-reco.
>we'll never see all the weird tech from the Rose of Hermes
why live?
>>13600278
That's what MSV is for
