You dont get sick of seeing almost indestructable Gundams piloted by angsty and usually magical teens always winning in the end?
>>13563043
Tomino is a hack
>>13563043
no
>>13563043
As a dark haired pasty skinntfat manlet, Gundam and mecha in general is always good to me.
>>13563043
OP, you'd probably like 0083 then.
>>13563062
Substitute "magical" with "blatant plot armor" and Shiro is the same as any other Gundam main character
>>13563068
I said 0083 you retard. Shiro was in 08th MS Team.
>>13563043
It's either 2-3 dedicated shitposters making trash threads like these or a widespread compulsion, and I'm not sure which idea is scarier
Engage and criticize the media you consume in good faith, and learn to voice opinions that aren't just paraphrased memes, you cowardly retard
>>13563068
Shiro is the protagonist of the 08th MS Team, not Stardust Memory.
>>13563043
Realistic gundam would mean protagonist dies in first episode. Great idea guys.
>>13563043
Nah. But I find alternative takes on the matter more compelling. 0080 is my favorite Gundam anything, even if it has so few action scenes.
>>13563043
No, I like that and many other kinds of shows, unlike people who believe everything should be about miserable soldiers in grey grunt suits dying in future Vietnam.
>>13563078
Ya talk like a queer and yer shits all retarded.
>>13563130
Miserable sexy soldiers made up of hot traps and bald bara/bishe men....mmmm
Better than some "stoic badass" allowing the world to shit on him and saying absolutely nothing about it.
Such utterly uninteresting characters. Give me the kid who is willing to call bullshit.
>>13563094
How about...NO main characters? Woah, so hard to think of. Wow. Holy crap, im a genius. Woah wtf that was a good idea!
Smaller one-off stories of grunt pilots and normies, most of them die or are heavily implied to have died at a later time.
There. Plot armor: solved.
Magical teenagers: solved.
OP Gendums: solved.
As much as you guys like to think that 08th ms team and 0083 are 'Gundam done right', Gundam has never been done right. Closest thing to it would have been Igloo, and the CG is a turnoff for most (but not me).
>>13563363
>Smaller one-off stories of grunt pilots and normies, most of them die or are heavily implied to have died at a later time.
>Here, have a bunch of shitheads you won't care about shoved in your face for little under half an hour before everyone involved dies and we get more meatshields in.
Scintillating.
>>13563363
You have absolutely no sense of storytelling and sound like an edgy teenager.
>>13563363
That sounds like total garbage.
>>13563363
Just say Band of Brothers with Gundam.
>>13563363
Why don't you go watch some war documentaries, grandpa? Cartoons aren't supposed to be boring
>Muhgrunts wardramafags
>>13563460
>Cartoons aren't supposed to be boring
>saying this on a Gundam thread
TEH IRONING
Watch a different anime you stupid idiots.
I'm serious. That's what Gundam IS. It's at the core. There are OTHER MECHA ANIME, you know that right?
You don't want a Gundam series where hurffdurff grunts, you want Bandai's marketing and jerking you off so you can have your special snowflake in an existing franchise. THAT'S what you want. You probably don't even realize it but that's what you're after.
Seriously. Gundam IS ABOUT space robots, newtype magic, lightweight politics, and understanding, and shonen protaganists. You're obsessed with the aesthetic and Bandai/Sunrise marketing schemes. Watch another mecha anime if that's what you're looking for. There's plenty of them.
>>13563568
No.
Gundam must stand for all anime.
>>13563568
Votoms is boring.
It would be cool if the angsty teens actually had problems to whine about.It would be nice if his life was already shit before he got into the robot(with vigour and joy might I add) and after that he saw about 90% percent of his new comrades get killed(some in very nasty manners) and in the end achieved nothing.
>>13563598
...Amuro?
>>13563043
Isn't that why we watched Gundam 0083 to avoid that kind of thing?
>>13563094
>Realistic gundam would mean protagonist dies in first episode.
Because a realistic gundam would have an underage kid who falls into a secret prototypes cockpit right?
>>13563363
wow
>>13563043
unlike most people here that is reason i watch gundam
>>13563568
Came here to post this.
If you don't like it, watch something else.
>>13563043
what's the fucking deal with the newtype complaint. There is no difference between newtype beating everyone because newtype and a completely unreal "ace pilot" just domeing niggas with no effort.
>>13563478
Gundam is not about anti-war as it is about how are adults are evil and women have stop becoming mothers.
>>13565189
Actually they need to become like mothers
>>13563043
There's more to /m/ than Gundam.
>>13563043
no, because Zeon always at the lose side.
they never win with their MUH IDEALS, to begin with.
>>13565195
Tokushit isn't /m/ and Gundam is the only mecha series that still produces (watchable) mecha content
>>13565245
>my opinions are facts because I say so and you are wrong I'm right blah blah blah
cool story, kiddo
>>13565257
I could literally just copy paste your comment and we'd be at this forever
>>13565192
Char stop posting on the internet please.
>>13563043
You'd like Valvrave.No really, try Valvrave, it's not that bad.
Isn't emo/angst just a buzzword?
>>13565845
Depends I like to call 2002-2006 the pinnacle of emo angst in the anime context.
>>13565195
True, but /m/ is like 90% Gundam franchise related.
>>13563043
Yes, I do.
It's part of the reason why dropped so many series in the franchise. Right now I'm trudging through Zeta because it's a pivotal series in the UC timeline. I'm about a quarter of the way through and it's not clicking with me. The praise /m/ gives Zeta is way out of proportion to the story-telling.
>>13565906
Stick to your shitty /a/ harem animes then scum
>>13563363
>As much as you guys like to think that 08th ms team and 0083 are 'Gundam done right'
There isn't a single person on this entire board that thinks that.
>>13565906
>I clearly don't like this franchise but I'll force myself to watch 10 episodes of each of them and not finish them and call it shit
>>13565964
That's precisely what I'm trying to avoid.
>>13565981
never said I didn't like the franchise. There's good series in the Gundam franchise, but they are few and far apart.
>>13566014
If you only think there are very few good entries in the franchise, then you clearly don't like the franchise as a whole, fucking idiot.
>>13565973
08th and 0083 are two of my favorite series in the franchise.
No ragrets.
>>13566019
okay then. I hate Gundam.
But I do like some Gundam series.
Faggot.
>>13566029
Then go back to your shitty harems and romcoms on >>>/a/.
>>13566039
How is exactly do you go from mecha to romcoms?
Jeez...this is why it's so hard for /m/ to make friends.
They made a mecha series where, other than the main character, no plot armour exists and pilots can and will drop like flies. It's called Victory Gundam.
You know what the number one complaint about Victory Gundam is? "too many people die too quickly and easily, therefore i don't care about them".
>>13566136
>"too many people die too quickly and easily, therefore i don't care about them".
I know, right? Nobody cares about the fallen.
>>13566123
That looks delicious.
>>13566155
Not when characters die in the episode they're introduced and it's played up as some grand tragedy.
The Shrikes are the epitome of wastefulness in that regard.
>>13566155
Why is he crying? He can't afford new boots?
>>13566155
I don't care about dead people I knew for 5 seconds, no.
>>13565189
>Gundam is not about anti-war
>Almost if not every mainline series involves exaggerated ramifications of war and the protagonists all have a strong anti-war stance by the end of it.
The cartoonishly evil adults aren't seperate from it either but are used to reinforce the message because y'know, Gundam is a kids show.
>do you get tired on anime using spazzy underdog or elite edge lord kids as the protagonist.
Nope
>>13566241
This man gets it
>>13566241
>Main characters are supposed to have earned their place as the center of attention, not be handed it by lazy writing.
Welcome to /m/, the land of "your enigmatic billionaire father built this giant robot that only you, his 14 year old son, can pilot", enjoy your stay.
>>13566241
>Main characters are supposed to have earned their place as the center of attention
This never happens is any anime tho, every single main character is a special snowflake in some way and get by on bullshit plot armor, luck, or just plain bad writing.
>>13566019
>you have to like all the series in the franchise to like Gundam
Fucking textbook autism right there.
Even diehard Star Wars fans acknowledge that at least half of the episodes were shit.
Mecha as a genre is just shithouse right now.
>>13568267
That has nothing to do with what Op is talking about.
No, I don't watch Turn A or G-Reco.
>>13568250
That isn't what he said, anon. If you only like 1/10 of the shows, you don't like 90% of Gundam. This is not a matter of "real fan" or not, this is simple ratios. Someone who likes all but a few could be said to like the franchise as a whole. Someone who dislikes all but a few could be said to dislike the franchise as a whole. Even if you REALLY like the 10% that appeals to you, you'd still be rejecting 90%.
>>13568267
>anime as a genre is just a shithouse right now
ftfy.
But seriously, most of it panders to kids so simple plots and simple characters are used to tell a simple story. Unfortunately, most of the "adult" shows are just carry much of those lazy writing elements over.
![[a-s]_mobile_suit_zeta_gundam_-_50_-_run_through_the_cosmos__rs2_[1080p_bd-rip][87EDBFE4]_Nov 29, 2015, 2.31.34 AM.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mkbtmrs.jpg "[a-s]_mobile_suit_zeta_gundam_-_50_-_run_through_the_cosmos__rs2_[1080p_bd-rip][87EDBFE4]_Nov 29, 2015, 2.31.34 AM.jpg")
>>13566890
By the end of Zeta, Kamile wanted to kill everyone who's soul was bound by gravity.
>>13563598
... Kamille?
>>13568305
Anime isn't a genre, it's a medium. It's like calling movies a genre.
>>13563043
No, not really.
>>13568312
Movies are not a medium, they are a format
>>13568303
>Even if you REALLY like the 10% that appeals to you, you'd still be rejecting 90%.
Hence the SW analogy. You can be a SW fan, but to thinking that the prequel trilogy was good is just lying to yourself. And this is not even touching a lot of the extraneous stuff of the old EU before it got canned. By that measure, most SW fans aren't really fans at all.
Same with Gundam. All so-called Gundam fans would all be subject to fanboism.
>>13568312
Anime is very much a genre.
Animation is the medium.
I don't know, I just started Zeta Gundam, on episode 44 right now, and while I don't think it's the end all idea of Gundam, I think it's fairly decent.
If I were to fault it with one thing is that at the start of the series, they're going really hard in on DO YOU REMEMBER NEWTYPES. DO YOU REMEMBER AMURO RAY
THIS GUY WILL BE THE NEXT AMURO
YOU'RE A NEWTYPE RIGHT
But good on them on keeping Amuro out of the series, while having enough of the older cast linger around.
Also, while spreading newtypes throughout the cast is a decent idea, they just serve as plot devices, or convenient ways to explain how someone is feeling. When something is going on that characters shouldn't know about, or when Kamille needs to be saved from Jerid/Yazan again, someone gets a warning in their brain and shows up to save the day
Shit, even Katz gets the better of Jerid by blindsiding him when he was about to kill Kamille, because he sensed Sarah was in danger.
>>13568359
Your analogy is fucking retarded and you're probably underage. Star Wars fans aren't necessarily prequel trilogy (or EU) fans because they'd been around for 20 fucking years and long established themselves around the style of the original trilogy by then.
It's one thing to not care for Unicorn or Thunderbolt or whatever but saying you hate Zeta is like hating Empire Strikes back. It's part of the original core of the franchise that everything else is built on.
>>13568401
You're being selective with your argument at this point.
How can someone like 2 or 3 things from SW and be fan, but when someone says that they only like 2 or 3 things from Gundam they are not a fan?
>>13568413
Because if you are a Star Wars fan than you're already trash.
>>13568423
That makes no sense.
>>13568413
Not that dude, his argument is fairly autistic as well.
But seriously if you don't like teenagers thrown into war in robots you don't like Gundam generally.
>>13568366
Anime is not a genre. It's the word that means every cartoon made in japanese studios.
The genres are romantic comedy, comedy, tragedy, drama etc.
>>13568366
Are you retarded/from Reddit?
>>13568597
>>13568447
Don't mean to argue the definition and meaning of the word "genre," but seems like there it's necessary since it's prevalent that people don't know.
Genre is used to describe specific traits that are shared among individual pieces of art or entertainment. Most prominently, anime as a genre is stylistically different and distinctive in its look compared to western animation. Sub-genre is a term that would be used to describe different categories of anime.
>>13568657
Oh yeah, Shin Chan looks exactly like Jojo.
Go back to your Korra thread on /co/.
