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Backerlit is up.
Kickstarter finally got updated.
Strike Frontier screenshots released.
Schwaken PV: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27671689
Schwaken VN released today.

Mabbu-Rabbu thread.
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>>13553056
>Schwaken PV: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27671689
https://youtu.be/qzVBqBosf5w?t=2m56s
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Wait what?
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>>13553063

The ominous chanting has been a staple of SM PVs since the Dies Irae teaser for the light novel.
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>>13553064
just take it fucboi
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>>13553064
you didn't read what you pledged before?
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>>13553056

Beatrix in a choker does things to me.

It's regrettable that you're most likely going to have to shank her, no matter what the route, in the VN.
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>>13553088

Chokers are hot.

Also, that choker combined with that expression is giving me a real Esdeath vibe.
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>>13553064
>signed mini-shikishi
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>>13553069
But the pitch and tempo is almost identical.
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Katia car makes another appearance. If only she was more popular to justify all of her exposure.
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>tfw you realise that your country got overrun by the BETA in the 80's.
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>>13553138

My countries a piece of shit more concerned with dominating the world than the BETA and fucks over everything for everybody in one of the routes.
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>>13553138
>>tfw you realise that your country got overrun by the BETA in the 1979.
feels bad
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So, who got their copies of Schwarzesmarken shipped out?

I ended up changing my amazon preorder to Sofmap afterall
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>>13553173

>Opting out of glorious Stasi poster

For shame anon, for shame.
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>>13553138
>tfw my country is the best county
Just like real life.
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The second VN looks to be more interesting:

また、後編「殉職者たち(仮)」は、原作ルートを含めた複数ルートの予定。
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>>13553187
In the end I couldn't resist the Aryan beauty in dirndl
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>>13553138
My country got raped by BETA and later thought it was a good idea to declare war on USA, and Japan by their alliance, at their own border after G-bombs were dropped.

We were pretty much getting btfo and near to get nuked if Japan hadn't been there.

By the way... Why the fuck is it called the 8th Border War ? Where are the 7 others ?
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>>13553207

Perhaps it was previously the Canadians who finally got tired of trying to be polite.
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>>13553206

Iris is my second favorite. Design is a bit on the generic side for me though. She does have an objectively better better poster from an artistic standpoint. The Iris poster has a much better background and color choices/balance then the Beatrix poster. Still, I'd be hard pressed to trade in my Stasi-chan poster.
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>>13553138
mine is protected by MURRICA
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>>13553257

>protected by MURRICA

You're better off sleeping with wolves. But hey, at least it's not Russia.
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>>13553272
It's so slow here with everyone celebrating, I should just go to sleep.
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How long until we start getting doujins?
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>>13553622
Month
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>>13553622

Dead Waifu Doujins
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>>13553622
Why do so many of them look like lolis with tits? It's also sameface out the ass.
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>>13553622
>>13553652
>>13553657

Hoping I get to see some Beatrix penetration action that doesn't involve a CIWS and copious amounts of blood.
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>>13553665

I'm not seeing anything really out of line with their designs. They have the same standard cuteness that most anime characters have today. Also, most of them are pretty young. Beatrix and Iris are the oldest and they're like 22-23. I really do wish more of them would have unique designs like Beato does (then again, the book establishes her to be by far the most attractive female in the cast, so of course she get's the super special design).
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>>13553665
They don't.
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>>13553710
>>13553725
I haven't kept up with this so I'm judging it by that picture alone, and all 6 bottom ones look practically identical. None of them have even a semblance of facial features and those that are there are copy paste level with eye colour changed. The only way to tell them apart is hairstyle/colour and eye colour and that's just flat design. Hell, middle right and bottom middle have absolutely no difference apart from slightly different hairdo.

The shading and colouring on the suits and cockpits are fine, but man do most of the characters look lifeless.
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>>13553750
>practically identical
Nope. They have different eye colours, eye shapes, different upper body posture and structure, and different facial positioning. Hairdo is also a significant factor anywhere, tho you of course build a strawman for it. You are also blind if you think the two, low-middle and center-right, have no differences. Pay attention to the eye curvature and positioning again. The middle-row is also shit quality and her face is over exposed, not showing all the detail.
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>>13553750

Yeah. Really, most of the girls are just sideshows for the two leads. It's not a great picture though. They look less samey in other shots.
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>>13553750
>>13553768

>Sameface

Not really.
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>>13553768
>eye shapes
You mean the characters opening and closing their eyes? The actual eyes/outlines are the same for everybody, some have them more open, some less
>different upper body posture and structure
What does this even mean? Someone has slumped their shoulders more than the other? Yeah that's not really design.
>different facial positioning
This is just outright wrong. The only thing different is the viewer's angle. The actual faces are incredibly similar.
>Pay attention to the eye curvature and positioning again
You're kidding right? The curvature and positioning is exactly the same. Again, the only tiny differences come from one's angle being above the head and the other's below

>>13553783
This image is better. The complaints I have here are mostly my own preference, so they're irrelevant.
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Does Inghild not have a named VA yet?
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>>13553801
>You mean the characters opening and closing their eyes?
No, the shapes of their eyes. You can see see that they are different despite of their different states.
>What does this even mean?
Don't be stupid anon, I expected a lot more from you.
>This is just outright wrong.
No, this is absolutely right. The view angle is different, but that does not mean they are not different.
>The actual faces are incredibly similar.
Way to move your goalpost. You said they are practically identical, now you're just saying they similar. Welcome to anime, enjoy your stay.
>You're kidding right?
No, I am seeing you are. You're just stirring shit up.

Now that image at >>13553783 also refutes your own fucking points, you should've just stopped posting right there.
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>>13553812

Inghi's a minor character who's basically there for Annete's character progression. She has more presence in Requiem, but in SM, they could probably get away with not giving her a VA she's so inconsequential.
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>>13553818
>You said they are practically identical, now you're just saying they similar
I used INCREDIBLY similar to emphasize just how much. Practically identical and incredibly similar mean the same thing.

>Now that image at >>13553783 also refutes your own fucking points, you should've just stopped posting right there.
Do you even read anything at all?
>I haven't kept up with this so I'm judging it by that picture alone
Maybe instead of going on a tantrum you post a better image like >>13553783
this anon did. As you can see, I also happened to say that this image shows differences a little bit better.

The rest of what you wrote is just you repeating the exact same things you said in your last post so there really isn't anything to even reply to. But feel free to re-write your original points a third time like an autist on loop
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I just realized SM release date was on the Black Friday.

This can't be a coincidence, right ?
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>>13553844
>Practically identical and incredibly similar mean the same thing.
No, they are inherently different matter. Incredibly similar means, literally, that they are similar and not identical. Practical identical means, again literally, identical. Not similar. Your emphasize has erred and you moved your goalpost.
>Do you even read anything at all?
More than you, I assure that. Otherwise you would actually see the differences in their faces.
>Maybe instead of going on a tantrum
This is no tantrum, simply point-to-point reply. It would be you who went on a tantrum about anime faces, which is laughable. I'm just amused how small thing like that can get a person like you anally devastated.
>ou post a better image like
But that was not on the table a the time. You tantrumed based on >>13553622, in which you can see the difference, unless you simply choose to ignore them willingly.
>The rest of what you wrote is just you repeating the exact same things
Mainly because you did not refute them in any way, but hey, you can't refute them because you have no case to stand on outside crying because you don't like simple designs.
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>>13553868

SM's release is also in the same week as Beatrix's birthday. It probably isn't.
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>>13553885
They know who Best Girl is.
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>>13553886
>>13553885
Is it wrong I wonder how bad Beatrix gets when on her period?
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>>13553886

SM Jap fans have surprisingly good taste in girls. She's apparently Kouki's favorite too
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>>13553885
>>13553868
Amazing, think she could have an hidden route or something? Or at least an ending not leading to penetration
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Will Bernhard-kun still have a job at age after Schwarzesmarken is over and they don't need a Deutsch consult anymore?
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>>13553892

Her tsundere-troll tendencies would go through the roof if she liked you. She'd probably be even more of an alpha bitch to everyone else though, so more of the same. I can imagine the Stasi sort of setting up a quarantine for her during that "time of the month."

>>13553917

Beatrix is the main heroine of Bernhard im Schatten. Age isn't likely to NTR her from Jürgen, even if he's dead because of "True Love." Funny thing too, Jürgen's already reached first base with Beatrix while the most Theo got from Iris was a hug and acknowledgement after six volumes of being friendzoned and risking his life to rescue her from the stasi. Probably why the elevens all like Jürgen/Beato more than Theo/Iris.
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>>13553945
Theo is a fucking beta faggot
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>>13553917

Nah, she's going to end up with Theo's knife plunged deep into her, stirring all her insides up. Doesn't matter the root. She's already been established as the main villain in all the promo shit.

>>13553979

Theo got to play with Axmann for a year when he was a child. Of course he's fucked up. His interactions with Beato are hilarious though.

Jürgen probably is the superior protagonist if 2ch (http://hello.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/magazin/1413607950/) is anything to go off of.
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>>13553831
>Love letter
>Germany
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>>13554001

It's what happens when two shy BETAs fall in love.
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>>13553992
>His interactions with Beato are hilarious though.
care to give an example? I can only imagine him sweating bullets and having a boner in front of her, looking around paranoid as fuck
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>>13553917

She's dying. She's done to many fucked up things to make it out of the story alive.
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>>13553992
How old is beatrix in the spinoff?
They should have adapted it for the anime instead seriously, I wouldn't care about the QUALITY then since this isn't supposed to have a lot of mecha action (?)
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>>13554016

That's pretty much it. Theo absolutely hates Beatrix, but he's also extremely attracted to her. It's kinda like that crush you had back in highschool who was a complete bitch too you and was always putting you down. For instances, in the side material, he actually zoned out for a second because "holy shit she's hot" before snapping back to reality and remembering that he hates her guts. His mind was also full of fuck when she somewhat flirtatiously wished him good luck after rescuing him from BETA.

>>13554020

She's like 13 at the start. Story skips around a bit, so she'll probably be around 16 to 18 at the end.
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>>13554044
sounds like perfect recipe for some hardcore hatesex, with him feeling like shit after the ordeal
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>>13554044
Thanks
>Story skips around a bit
This is really cool

>Theo absolutely hates Beatrix, but he's also extremely attracted to her
Hatesex doujins incoming
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>>13553812
Well yes, the sound of her voice has been public for a couple weeks from one of the play demos but they didn't bother listing the CV anywhere. Since the game is out somebody just needs to get to the credits.

I couldn't recognize it between the quality of it being recorded from the game, nicolive quality, and all the background noise. Then again I also couldn't place Irisdina as Nojou despite having heard a lot of her anyways. (at least I got Minyami right, I just couldn't believe it)
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>>13554047

They'd probably both feel like shit afterwards. While she might possibly find him cute (and NTRing him from Iris would be delicious for her), Beatrix doesn't have a very high opinion of Theo (reference the VO samples over on the VN product page; half her lines are sultry threats or husky insults), especially when compared to her deceased lover.
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>>13554074
>NTRing him from Iris would be delicious for her
my fucking sides
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>>13554020

>I wouldn't care about the QUALITY then since this isn't supposed to have a lot of mecha action

Jurgen's one of the best pilots in SM and helped pioneer the laserjagd tactics used later on, so you'd see plenty of mecha action.
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>>13554100

?
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PS Vita cartridge or physical DVD? Which one would be better to have in collection?
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>>13554130
Both.
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>>13554130
>Collection

All of them. Else it's not a collection.
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>>13554130
A DVD can be ripped and in thirty years time you may still be able to run it on Windows 20. A PS Vita cartridge is a locked down proprietary format and once the Vita goes out of production, if your Vita dies the cartridge becomes useless.
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>>13554130
>>13554143
>>13554151
>>13554164
Can't you buy the physical copies for cheaper down the road?
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>>13554195
It will definitely end up costing you more than to buy them now.
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>>13554164
>in thirty years time you may still be able to run it on Windows 20
What a joke, Muv Luv for Windows XP couldn't last even a decade before Windows 8 broke things, and you think the 2016 version will somehow run in thirty years time?
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>>13554201
Are they both KS exclusive? 80$ retail for the trilogy is possibly the highest it is going to go.
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>>13554239
They're not going to be sold as a bundle. It'll be Muv-Luv and Alternative separately around $50-60 each.
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>>13554228
At least a software is easy to get at any time. A hardware is much more difficult after a long period and suffer the passing of time, even if it's sealed new.
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>>13554252
If the KS prices are anything to go by, extra /unlimited are going to be ~$25 and alternative is going to be ~$30.
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>>13554252
Oh I thought they were all in one like the physical DVD.
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>>13554266
lol no. They're two separate products.
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>>13554279
Wait. So there are dvd is not an all-in-one? Or are you talking about the vita?
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>>13554301
Both. Ever since Alternative has been released, they have always been two separate pieces. even in bundle boxes.
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>>13554318
Okay. I thought it was together because that's how it looked like in the 150 tier and the faq said
>Do the images in the rewards represent the actual product?
>They are icons which represent the reward types as closely as possible.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TOlNWbU1A0
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>>13554357
Why does this keep switching between cel shaded 3DCGI TSFs and photoshopped A3 plamo TSFs? It's fucking jarring.
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>>13554369
>artistic consistency
>any Muv-Luv OP after Unlimited
Pick one.

My favourite is the completely random obsolete MLA sprite Raptor in the TDA OP.
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Is there anywhere I can find Alternative Chronicles 04 besides a near-dead torrent seeded at the speed of slow by a couple of Elevens? KNG's stash link seem to have disappeared with the rest of the moe archive.
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>>13554415
You could buy the game.
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>>13554422
No, I really couldn't.
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>>13554415
Check in the evening of japan.
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>>13554423
No, you really could.
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>>13554415
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=323293
If this is the torrent, just keep it running until it finishes.
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So tell me, are these backerkits exclusive to those who got in their monetary contributions before the deadline?
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>>13554522
No. They made a list of people who missed kickstarter to gain access to backerkit.
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>>13554369
>A3 plamo TSFs
>A3
>plamo
Apologize to plamo, cunt. Right fucking now.

>>13554357
>dat end
It does not inspire much optimism about the happy end, does it?
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>>13554551
Seriously?! Sweet deal! How do I get in on that?
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>>13554897
They are A3 plamo though. They're scratch builds using A3 joints.
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>>13554898
Get a time machine because you are 2 weeks late for that.
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Am I missing anything /m/?
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>>13555409
>3,000 dollaritos
damn you for reminding me how much of a poorfag I am
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>>13555409
How can you make a quilt with only 5 daki?
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>>13555409

Wait to get the Beatrix daki, then you'll be ready.
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>>13555427
I'm going to sow the ones I'm keeping ass to mouth and cuddle with it
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>>13555439
Just don't sew mine. Kei don't need none of your non-bestgirl shit in her mouth
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>>13555409
A brain
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>>13555802

Timestamp it or I'll assume you pulled it from Twitter.
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Anyone going to the Sofmap Akiba Schwarz event today?
If anyone wants the Iris clear poster I don't mind giving out a proof of purchase for it since I'm not in Japan.
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>>13554976
FML...
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>all these Daki choices
I only picked this tier for the TSF's and pilot jacket
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There a date on when that browser game launches?
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>>13556351
It's bundled with TSF Forefront.
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>>13556351
For you, never. Chances are it'll be IP locked for Japanese only.
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how do I get into this? or better yet, should I even get into this? http://www.dmm.com/netgame_s/muvluvsf/recyclehouse-002/
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>>13555409
You're not getting the TSF pins?
Fellow 3ker reporting in.
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>>13556396
You don't. The service is limited Japan only.
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>>13556370
>>13556415
VPN.
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>>13555409
Am I the only one to think the tiers past 800 are not that good ?

I mean, there is a lot of x2 goods, which is totally useless for a single collection. The 1500 basic tier is actually only made of that ( If you remove the special 1500 tiers ) except for the kits. And as 3000 et 5000 take all from below,

I don't mean to get something worth what you were paying as it's funding so it's not the goal, but at least get more exclusive things and less doubles, even if it's just little things. I don't know.

I couldn't get the 5000 tier in time, but nothing really makes me want to get the 3000 tier ( Now that the KS is funded I mean, if it was a matter of success of it or not I would have taken it anyway ).
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>>13556496
>I mean, there is a lot of x2 goods, which is totally useless for a single collection.
I see you've yet to realise that one is put into use, one is kept in its packaging for all eternity.
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>>13556500
Yeah, that's what I call Collection Faggots. It's useless.
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>>13556513
Looks like you don't really understand what it all is about. Oh well, should blame myself, I expected too much from a newfag.
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>>13556520
>Oh my god he dislike what I like
>Newfag

Get back to the forum and stay there.
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>>13556522
>putting words in my mouth
Traditional newfag tactics. Understanding why something is done does not necessarily require you to like it. If you don't like it, just leave it be. Why would care about it? It's nothing to you. You can quit this outrage culture already and concentrate on the things you like.
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>>13556528
As a collector, I never understood why people would do that.

And the one thing you are right about is that I shouldn't care, and I actually don't care about what they do. I never judged people doing weird things even if I can't understand them. I answered sharply because I took your reply for a " All collectors need to have double collections " kind of shit fact. My bad, maybe.
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>>13556542
>I never understood why people would do that
>As a collector
You are not a collector.
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>>13556542
Because they're collectors, that's why they do it. For example with comics it's not too uncommon to have two pieces of a comic; one to read and add to the library, and one to keep in as pristine condition as possible for the collection
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>>13553138
>tfw the BETA can't even get past your neighboring country due to their dangerous wildlife

Living in New Zealand is great.
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>>13556554
And you reveal your true self. Great, now I know what kind of guy you can be.

I really don't want to speak to you anymore with that kind of answer, but I think I have to explain my point if I don't want to lose that childish discussion by forfeit.

For me, people buying all in double for their collections are just mainly lazy fucks who don't want to get the time to take care of their goods and/or doesn't have proper setting to display them and just let one in the box because they don't have to wash/dust off it, and another on a random shelf taking all the dirty dust, but hey, it's ok as they have one who doesn't, right ? And those type of guys think they are the master race of the collectors, which irritate me at my maximum.

A second type are those who keep one exemplary sealed to sell it later. I think I don't even have to say what I think of them.

Then, hiding in that pile of garbage, there is actually people who take great care of their double collection, and who are actually real collectors and not just some wanabee. Those, even if I don't understand why anyway ( Actually I do, but I don't see the point ), I accept their kind of mind, even if I consider the time passing on an item is part of its life and is important to take into consideration, but hey, if they don't think like that I won't blame them and they have indeed the right to think of it like they want. Those, I respect them. The others can eat shit.

Now you will feel the need to answer me, you won't accept my point, you will explain yours, I won't accept yours, and we will quit this pointless discussion already.
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>>13556584
>lazy fucks who don't want to get the time to take care of their goods and/or doesn't have proper setting...
But they do. They do both. They put twice as much effort into it.
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>>13556584
Like I said, you are not a collector.
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>>13556590
Read my post entirely, I say I respect those who take care of both.

>>13556592
And you answered, that's the end of the discussion. Thanks for participating.
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>>13556594
Yes, which just means you're blowing out hot air. Plus, if they have everything twice, they need twice as much money as you, which means more work.
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>>13556597
>Plus, if they have everything twice, they need twice as much money as you, which means more work.

For those I describe as lazy fucks, money value of their collection is probably their goal in life, so they can show their social class maybe and their oh wonderful wealth. Those are not collectors. Think of them as the modern " Geeks " who are mainly just people wanting some attention because Geekiness became cool over the last years.

For the others, they do what they want with their money, working more or not.
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>>13556610
Nobody with large collection of comcis or anime tat would showcase them as their social status or wealth. It would be good enough reason to sentence them to the insane asylum. Modern geeks don't even really collect anything like a collector would, they don't build libraries.
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>>13556634
I have encountered an INSANE amount of collectors doing so to show off their wealth in my life ( Being Double Collections or not, and not necessarily comics or anime. I know comics collectors are really specials for one so I guess there is way less people like that in this category, at least I don't remember meeting a lot of them ), that's why I have this idea based on my personnal experience.

Of course there is probably a vast silent majority who is not like that, but from the visible spectrum, most of them were assholes of this genre, and I have been in contact in any way with a lot of collectors communities around the world, on the net or in RL.

It might have changed in the past 4 years though, as I'm not active anymore in the collectors communities outside of some long date friends and some boards here and there. Maybe a new generation came up but I'm pretty sure those guys are always here. At least I don't see why they could have stopped their shit.
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Let's have some fun.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv243504443
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>>13556669
88888888888888888888888888
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>>13556584
You're looking far too much into it.
The main reason people get doubles is one to open and one to put on the shelf.

It's common sense.
I say this being a poor fag.
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>>13553187
>>13553206

Beatrix wins due to having fine Dunkelbier.
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>>13556669
holy shit sm fight look so fucking good
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>>13556780
Shit, I didn't see it. What was it ? VN ? Anime ?
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>>13556819
VN.
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>>13556780
Is it in 3D or something?
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>>13556850
No.
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>>13556857
Fuck
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>>13556780
The beta are goddamn orgasmic when they move..
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How long until the VN gets ripped / CGs get posted?
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>>13556890
Whenever KNG gets the disc.
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>>13556899

Does he plan on buying it?

Also

>still no Cross Ops vol 6
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>herp derp I'm so great for paying double price for non-exclusive merchandise twice
Really you fucks

Maybe you could learn to buy things from Japan instead of wasting hundreds of dollars if you meant to do anything but wave your dick
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>>13556899
Yeah because some tripfag attention whore is the only person to rip Japanese PC game CGs.
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>>13556915

KnG does more than just attention whore.

What have you done for the community?
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>>13556924
Too much, apparently.
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>>13556908

At least Vol. 6 exists.

Insofar as I know the book with all the model kits used in TSFIA don't have the stories inside so even buying that is worthless if one wants to know the last few TSFIA stories.

Or so I think, anyways. Product description makes no mention of the stories, only the diorama art used for them. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but...
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damn those nipples
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>>13556944

Perky nips are back with a vengeance.
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Would anyone want a VN where your waifu really is a giant robot?
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>>13556899
>>13556890

The Chinese over on Baidu are already ripping it.
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>>13556980
Completely
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>>13556944
>>13556950
>>13556953
>>13556956

Kouki listen our prayers

God bless âge
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>>13556741
>The main reason people get doubles is one to open and one to put on the shelf.
I thought it was one to open (and then put on the shelf after opening) and one to sell at a 300% markup on ebay.
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>>13556924
KnG's trip debut was literally an LP of Muv-Luv Alternative.
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>>13557019

Cookie is a Saint among men.
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I saw this new girl in tonight's broadcast.
Did they replace Mipporin already?
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>>13557042
>>13557019

He also has some pretty god tier taste in females. Too bad his favorites always end up losing hard.
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>>13556944
>>13556950
>>13556953
>>13556956
They must feel really cold
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>>13557101
Or extremely sexually exited.
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>>13556956
>robot needs nipples.
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>>13557118
Or both
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>>13556908
He already bought it, and looks like his scanner is bust.
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In 2001 are the humanity forces actually planning to push back the front lines or are they just in an endless culling holding pattern trying to contain the BETA in Europe and Asia while waiting for the Alternative Plans to work?
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female soldier: ITAI ITAI ITAI ITAI ITAI ITAI
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>>13557197
Didn't they start fucking the Beta with railguns?
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>>13557029
He went under different trip first when he shared other scans.
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>>13557197

They're in the process of rebuilding forces to take back Hives. By all indications they would be taking a longer while to achieve that than what eventually happened in Alternative because the Defense of Britain almost destroyed the last of the EU, while the Chinese had only gotten their first breather of the decade after joining up with Taiwan. Japan has their prototype railgun still in the works, and the Soviets... I don't know, all things point to nothing in their case. I doubt their esper drone fighters are actually intended for use on the front more than they would end up being used as Kremlin attack dogs or something else.

At best, the nations not involved with the Alternative Plans contributed forces to that cause with the parallel purpose to develop military tactics. Heck, China and Taiwan actually deepened their level of military cooperation to improve their conventional warfighting capabilities after US announced the completion of their first G-Bomb. After the debacle at the Bhopal Hive when the UN threw people into the grinder for the Soviet espers to return with "lol i dunno", I can't blame them for that; who wants to be the lab rat for testing superweapons?

iirc the EU has always eschewed the Alt. Plans. In a way the EF-2000 was THEIR Alt. Plan, they were intent on using it to further their "All-TSF" doctrine of having artillery/support/assault in the first attack wave all covered by TSFs, because naval artillery can only shoot so far and land artillery can't screw off as quick as TSFs can in the event of total FUBAR. The attack on Britain set them back by quite a bit if I recall. They spent the next decade or so fortifying their naval lines to solidify their position, then set up bases to launch culling forces from.
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>>13556882
Get off the internet 00
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>>13556980
I'm surprised /m/ has made it yet
Then again /m/ is full of lazy fucks
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>>13557289
>muh combined arms
Koto better start making 1/144 MIGs
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>>13556942
>the book with all the model kits used in TSFIA don't have the stories inside
yes

>buying that is worthless
sure, if you don't plan on building any of the model kits
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Is that new DMM game released yet?
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After the end of Schwarzesmarken did the Stasi manage to burn all their archives/leave them for the BETA to eat, or were they recovered and used to track down former Stasi informants in the new Germany?
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>>13557416

Axmann took care of the loose ends. The little shit.
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>>13557445
>Axmann escapes BETA advance, East Germany remains a national entity overseas, soldiers now sell themselves as mercs for coin for anyone to hire
>Sandek leaves Kamchatka during Ouka, taking a TSF carrier with unknown numbers of espers with him

So that's two loose ends to two sidestories completed.

If Euro Front ends up with that too, it'll be like Alternative II is practically writing itself.
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>>13557487
>East Germany remains a national entity overseas
No reunion? So what was the point of tearing down that wall?
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>>13557506
Long story short it failed to achieve any effect of that sort. East Germany trucks on, the Eastern European Socialist Alliance is now a member of the EU force (but that's probably almost every European nation as of 2001 anyways), and West Germany is still a separate entity.

Unless the Kooby wants to retcon small sidestories, settings, infobooks and other stuff tracing all the way back to TE.
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>>13557506

Nothing.

The West was apparently crazy mad at the rebels for pulling everybody away from the BETA front for their little political shitshow, throwing a huge wrench into the deal they cut with Beatrix, and basically allowing the BETA to waltz into Europe and eat them all. For extra irony, if the evacuation plan had worked out, they probably would've been united anyways.
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>>13557487
>Sandek leaves Kamchatka during Ouka, taking a TSF carrier with unknown numbers of espers with him
Anyone have that TE VN image of him with all the other espers lined up?

And weren't they all altered clones of his dead sister or something?
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>>13557545
Beatrix was right and did nothing wrong.
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>>13557623

Nah, she's pretty fucked up. Iris and Beatrix both end up being equally wrong (and right) despite having pretty much the opposite stance on things.
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>>13557209
I think the canon is that Kamchatka fucked railgun over and beyond TDA it's never fielded against baters again. Fucking bravo Japan.
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>>13557652
kamchatka happened before the divergence of the timeline so the fuck are you saing?
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>>13557652
Except the Valkyries use railguns out the ass, they're just all on the Susanoo.

Mass producing the thing is somewhere between really difficult and actually impossible because of the materials required, Yuuko is just using it as a political ploy.
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>>13557667
Oh right also what effectively stops the railgun program is the destruction of the Yokohama reactor which gave them a somewhat reliable source of those materials, anyways.
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>>13557667
Susanoo didn't have a single fucking railgun. The testing was all over the place and it only had missiles and chainguns.
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>>13557667
>Except the Valkyries use railguns out the ass, they're just all on the Susanoo.
Valkyries never carried railguns, and the Susanoo never had railguns mounted on it before it was abandoned at the bottom of a BETA mineshaft.
I wonder if the Americans had planned to put railguns on it themselves long before the Japanese actually built a rapid fire railgun, or if the Japanese added it to the design themselves. It stretches belief a little that the Japanese could have made all that many changes to the XG-70D's design in the time between Yuuko securing the mothballed prototypes and its planned use at Cheorwon.
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>>13557691
"The Japanese" didn't design the Susanoo IV, it was a combination of the original XB70 team and Yuuko's blackest of black UN people. The only custom weapons on the it were the 2700mm railguns anyways, everything else came off of TSFs or other existing weapons.
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>>13557154
how can you be cold and horny at the same time?
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>>13557746
Never fucked someone on a snowy rooftop?
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>>13557833
There's no snow were I come from (everything freezes up tho)
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>>13557833
>/m/
>ever fucking anyone
Just look at beatrix fans
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>>13557718
>36mm chainguns
>not covering it with GAU-8s
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It's time.
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>>13557909

How are Beatrixfags any worse than Yuifags, Meiyafags, Yuukofags or any other waifufag?
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>>13557934
Does the VN include the bit from the LN prologue about sitting in a trench with a Kalashnikov and a bayonet waiting for the tanks to show themselves?
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>>13557941
Yes.
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>>13557941
You're fucking looking at it.

It's a neat idea at first but actually really fucking stupid if you think about it for literally any length of time, RPG and AT rifle production should have been ramped up for like 10 years by then and sending anti-personnel at large BETA makes as much sense as trying to stop an armoured division with them.
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>>13557934
>..................
Jesus fuck, âge.
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>>13557941
they showed it in today streaming

ITAIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>13557987
those poor faggots
can't wait to see that scene animated next January
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>>13557987

>create a new design especially for the VN

>have her exist to be brutally and gorily devoured by a Tank-class

Guess they wanted people to get their guro-boners over and done with early, I suppose.
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>>13557987

Where can I see this?

Also, Vivi > Katia for cutest loli.
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>>13558005
Nobody from that opening scene has a sprite. Vivi's first appearance is in what's chapter 6 in the novel.
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>>13558021

Ah, I stand corrected.

Still, I don't suppose I'm too wrong, aside from her already existing.
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>>13557941
>about sitting in a trench
Why are they digging trenches to sit in, when the BETA aren't firing bullets and shells at them?
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>>13558036

Because the stasi executed most of the good generals in the Strachwitz purge.
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>>13558036
because the head ups are retards
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They've added the rest of the 666's anime designs.

http://schwarzesmarken-anime.jp/#character

The only ones left now are the two stasi and the West German.
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>>13558071
The designs seems pretty good honestly, I love all the details
No way they'll animate this consistently
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>DAT German
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_s_iZBZJWE
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If only my upload speed wasn't terrible...
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>>13558114
>Iris sound actually good
I love it
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>>13558118
I'll wait for you senpai.
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>>13558118

Doing God's work.
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I couldn't extract the audio files from the game so I began to make recordings of the BGMs.

I'll leave the folder where I'll be uploading the tracks as soon as I finish editing/encoding them here:

https://mega.nz/#F!vlB0iZBJ!I0mwgyCmCra9l3PXn8uy1g
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>>13558149
That seems like a lot of work for something that had a partial OST released with the FC version and is guaranteed to have an OST release for the anime in the fairly near future.
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>>13558146
i dreamed her some day ago, i'm too fuckig hyped
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>>13558154
Not really; I'm doing them primarily so I can listen to most of the cool tracks while the OST comes out. I'm only sharing them for those who might be interested in such stuff.
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>marketing in 2015
>while your kickstarter is on spam a million social media posts a day no matter how relevant or cringey while not actually publicizing any meaningfully specific information about the product so people can't call you out on it later
>once it's over and you have the money do so much literal nothing you can't even do a prize draw on time
What a time to be alive
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>>13558162
>dreaming about generic anime grills
you sure it was her tho?
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>>13558162

You too?
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>>13558162
>>13558180

I really wish Irisdina's design was as interesting as her character/role, but it isn't. It's just the millionth blonde, long haired, blue-eyed anime gril.
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>>13558200
i'm fine with it
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>>13558206

It's serviceable, but it's definitely lacking the pizazz of some of the other girls, like let's say Beatrix.
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Why do the cute ones suffer the most?
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>>13555987
All right, might as well ask while I've got the opportunity. On the off chance that I might get caught out again, will there be any MORE second shots for anyone who didn't make the kickstarter OR the backerkit list?
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>>13558296
No. The majority of those rewards aren't going to be exclusives to KS. Worry not.
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>>13558118
Um, what is it?
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>>13558320
That's a partial relief; I anticipate it's still gonna be appreciably more costly than if I'd beat the deadline. Will there be physical codeces? And Ruitare plushies?
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>>13558338
PS Vita, DVD, and Physical CODEX are unknown if it is an exclusive. The plushie is an exclusive as stated by the campaign page.
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Any news on the DMM game?
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>>13558352
>The plushie is an exclusive as stated by the campaign page.

That makes me mad.
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>>13558363
blame yourself for being a poorfag and not giving away your shekels earlier
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>>13558363

You cruise, you lose.
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>>13558363
All you had to do was pledge a dollar.
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>>13558200
I disagree. She's not 14 for one thing, that reduce her clone numbers from a million to around 100
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>>13558149
Kiminozoguy? Is that you?
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>>13558527
Holy jesus fuck that giraffe and face proportions
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>>13558527
You realize the only kind of EOP people who want to see this kind of shit posted will have no idea what they're looking at anyways.
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>>13558543

It's Lise hitting on Theo. Not exactly out of character for her. Also, many of us want to see CGs, the context is understood or not.
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>>13558551
But there is no CGs in that image.
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You can either have a shit quick .pdf tonight or properly edited one later this weekend. Which one you want?
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You could always upload the first half today, and the second half later, right?
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>>13558628
I thought you were never posting on 4chan again because japanese moot would sell your personal info to the yakuza?
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>>13558628
Since I don't know what this is, the shit one first, thanks
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