>beautiful artstyle
>fluid animation
>great soundtrack
>unique setting
>phenomenal worldbuilding
>self aware and tropesubverting writing
>continues main Gundam timelines without feeling forced
Why do people even argue about this show?
>>13535311
Yo ho, yo ho, near the hooks I'll never go.
It is sad that /m/ cannot demonstrate the most basic of maturity over this show.
>>13535311
>>phenomenal worldbuilding
>>self aware and tropesubverting writing
Not that I necessarily disagree, but you're blowing this out of proportion so hard Dobson would be proud.
>>13535311
cue shitposting
>>13535311
here we go
>>13535311
Because what you expressed is an opinion and not an objective fact.
Piss off.
>beautiful artstyle
It looks like shit
>fluid animation
Panning shots, wow such animated
>great soundtrack
Bleep bloop goes to /mu/
>unique setting
Watch more mecha anime
>phenomenal worldbuilding
Tomino dialog is anything but phenomenal
>self aware and tropesubverting writing
In other words it's bad but you like it ironically
>continues main Gundam timelines without feeling forced
Too bad it's so wow it's fucking nothing that any connection it has to other Gundams is wasted at best.
Crabstick Mazinger is more intelligently written than this piece of shit.
>>13535311
Crossboarders false-flagging and forcing this "fanbase" war between G-Reco and other shows.
>>13535329
>crossboarders
Please, if it were crossboarders there'd be actual effort put into the shitposting. It's /m/ being shitty all on its own, no way around it.
>>13535311
Basically this >>13535329
And because of shitposters like him >>13535328
>>13535337
You very rarely see this level of shitposting with any other show though. Most other shows' threads are always perfectly civil. /m/ as a board is much calmer and nicer than a lot of other boards.
By crossboarders I don't mean people coming from other boards to shitpost, I mean people who don't mainly use /m/, but also frequent trash-tier boards like /sp/, /tv/, /vg/ and /a/. Those are the boards with aggressive levels of shitposting because of high schoolers who think it's funny or cool.
>>13535311
Because it's way, way too easy to set off rants about how it's a masterpiece and everyone who doesn't like it just doesn't get it and is retarded and stuff. Man, that fanbase is like elitist TTGL fans.
>>13535383
gundam being the largest show is more likely to attract those kinds of people though which is why it gets so much shitposting
>>13535383
There's always been one arbitrarily chosen thing that /m/ demonstrates a profound compulsion to shitpost about at any given time.
Always has been, always will be.
You only notice it when it hits something you actually care about.
>>13535311
Because it couldn't surpass A/Z
>>13535337
this desu senpai /m/ is full of keks baka
>>13535311
I had to rewatch it once to really appreciate it.
And it blew my mind the amount of stuff Tomino put into this show.
For some reason having something as convenient as toilets in a mecha is triggering /a/ autism to ridiculous extends.
>>13535460
I love all the little tech Greco had, especially the returning stuff other shows just forgot about
>>13535311
>Why do people even argue
People don't actually argue about the show. People argue about whether or not having a low opinion of the show means you're retarded. Basically if you mention something you didn't like about the show, or mention it in comparison to another show without overtly stating that you think it's far better than whatever show you mentioned it alongside, G-Hadi trolls will insult you for fun.
This show's fanbase and hatebase are second only to the old MacrossX vs RobotechX trolling. Every thread about Reco will degenerate into trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls and people who just weren't impressed but don't realize that they're arguing with trolls.
>inb4 "spotted the retard"
>inb4 "pay attention"
As discussed in another thread, just ignore that G-(insult) troll. No point in responding
>>13535311
>>phenomenal worldbuilding
Do g-rectum circlejerk retards actually believe this?
>>13535460
>the amount of stuff Tomino put into this show.
If only he could have put some actual substance into it instead of irrelevant details on the background.
>>13535311
Many think it was shit. Others think /m/ hyped it for a series directed by Tomino.
Thing is atleast 12 episodes would had helped it alot.
That being said, I loved this show for themes it tried to show and how Tomino tried to emulate the "sheltered kid of 1st world " through the show.
World building will easily click if one is aware of themes running from 0079 to victory.
Many jumped on this show and got very confused . Perhaps it's greatest weakness was it's strength.
I do hope the movies will rectify it.
>>13535611
I mean 12 episodes more .
>>13535480
Oh look, a retard
>>13535383
Zeta threads are just as bad, the replies just alternate between "Zetafag" and "Contrarian" these days.
>>13535311
>>phenomenal worldbuilding
That's the one point I'll contest. That and I didn't care about most of the characters. The plot and dialogue was a little tricky to follow, but the show didn't make me care enough to want to try. It just felt like stuff happening. The only things I cared about were Klim, and Adias boobs.
>>13535597
>irrelevant details
Found the retard
Someone posted these in another thread for anyone interested
https://www.flickr.com/photos/84111400@N05/sets/72157657183989995
https://www.flickr.com/photos/84111400@N05/sets/72157657157412502
this is the reconpedia
>>13535611
>Perhaps it's greatest weakness was it's strength.
This is oddly true. If you made Greco longer and had more exposition it would lose a lot of the personality, it is a very quick and adventurous show. At the same time that also means stuff doesn't get as much development as it could and if you aren't on the ball you get lost. I can understand why someone would not like the show but I also thing that makes them a bit boring
1-5 more episodes would have helped without losing the atmosphere
I was waiting for OZC's BD batch before watching this. But it has been cancelled because there will be a US BD release. He also took down the existing torrents.
Where can I watch it in BD quality now? I can't see anything else on nyaa.
>>13535315
>>13535316
>>13535318
>>13535319
>>13535320
>>13535328
Oh boy, here we go. Of course I was stating my opinion. And no, I'm no crossboarder and this is not bait.
G-Reco impressed me more than any other recent show of gundam or mecha in general. Maybe I'm just tired of typical exposition dumps, G-Reco solved that very well. The artstyle caught my eye too, and there is a lot of detail in the animation other current shows don't have. Plus the minimal use of CGI didn't clash with the 2 animation What I liked the most though was the worldbuilding, how you get a feel for how everything works. Show don't tell. And G-Reco adheres to that to a flaw (for some people). Some call it an irrelevant detail to see how MS pilots go to the toilet, but small details make or brake science fiction.
It continues the UC timeline in a way that makes sense: minimalistic. UC doesn't need to be continued anymore. G-Reco does subtle references to invoke a bit of nostalgia and to give a sense of continuity. More isn't needed
>>13535685
>Some call it an irrelevant detail to see how MS pilots go to the toilet, but small details make or brake science fiction.
The word you are looking for is Shandification
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwlt4FqmS0
For those that don't want to watch, in Fallout 3 where food comes from makes no sense but it doesn't exactly mater, in New Vegas they purposefully develop it.
Greco loves the detail and to have little tangents
>>13535638
Not OP, but I'd have to disagree; it's the way the show reveals the world building that is so fantastic. On the one hand you have multiple sides to each faction, which is a happy, happy change from the very monolithic front that most shows portray their factions as. On the other hand you have the tiny details: for instance, it's never specifically stated in-show where the Capital Tower is (because none of the characters would know what "South America" is), but instead we're shown flora and fauna appropriate to a tropical climate, as well as a fly-over of Cait-Sith over the Great Blue Hole off the coast of Belize. On top of that, real world discussions of building a space elevator inevitably place them at the equator (to maximize rotational inertia at the apex). So you get a ton of world-building without having to have much dialogue. That's fantastic.
Various things
One : You've got the general Gundam fanbase that is the equivalent to the warring states of Japan. Each side wants to prove it's superiority. I mean for fucks sake, there's a poster going around who says Gundam 00 first season and climax were shit and the Second Season did everything better and had better world building and characters.
Two : The facebook shitpost club had started back then as was doing there shit
Three : You had this dumb fight between Aldnoah Zero fans and G-Reco because Aldnoah was an entry level mecha so they wanted to "defeat" the mecha made by the veteran.
Any actual mecha fan knows G-Reco is enjoyable. Frauds who say Fafner is shit because it's done by the guy who made Gundam SEED while praising Cross Ange don't feel this way
>>13535685
>G-Reco impressed me more than any other recent show of gundam or mecha in general
Same. When you realize the amount of shit that went into it, being thematics, scifi stuff, designs, animation you can't help but be impressed by the dedication and passion Tomino has. I still think Tomino could have made it more accessible.
![[HorribleSubs] Gundam Reconguista in G - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_13.47_[2014.10.10_12.12.25].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Tnn0tds.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Gundam Reconguista in G - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_13.47_[2014.10.10_12.12.25].jpg")
>>13535311
>fluid animation
>>13535684
Bumping this
Is there anyone that uploaded it or something?
People that like Reco will defend AWotT
>>13535647
Those covers are just ridiculously awesome.
>>13535818
It's a TV show so obviously not all the time but you don't need further than the opening sequence to ba blessed with godly stuff.
>>13535786
>Fafner is shit because it's done by the guy who made Gundam SEED
Only the character designs.
And Hirai didn't work on Cross Ange at all. I'm kinda confused by your example.
>>13535857
>[current year]
>.gif
why tho
>>13535849
So much care went into this stuff. It's a shame the western release probably won't have these anywhere
>>13535821
You might have to check more conventional torrent sites for it. I'm one of the handful of people who have the full 720p release, but I'm hesitant to re-upload it since that would open me up to a lot of potential liability.
>>13535865
Yes, I know that you retard. I know who Hirai is.
Fucking look up who directed Cross Ange and then put 2 and 2 together about the kind of people who'll turn down Fafner because it reminds them of SEED while they'll watch Cross Ange.
Kuntalas are too lewd
>>13535885
Fukuda didn't direct CA, he was its producer.
Hirai=/=Fukuda, and nobody would say that Hirai was SEED's showrunner.
>>13535890
I'd eat out a Kuntalas if you know what I mean.
>>13535867
>limited edition
Better not get your hopes up.
>>13535894
Barara has the sweetest kuntala.
>>13535876
I can only find episodes 6, 7, & 8
>>13535907
>>13535876
nix that
>>13535821
>grab raws
>grab subs
Damn, that wasn't so hard.
Hinttry that for other shows next time.https://share.dmhy.org/topics/view/411572_G_Gundam_G_no_Reconguista_rip_720P.htmlhttp://subs.com.ru/page.php?id=39498&highlight=RECONGUISTA
>>13535942
>720p BDs
What's the point?
>>13535685
>>13535810
When you give too much focus on the small things while the big picture can end up a spectacular mess. G-Reco has it's merits but it's ultimately mediocre.
You just like it because it's different.
>>13535311
because its shit
>>13535912
Huh, it looks like nyaa still caches torrents that have been removed. Want me to try to find them and convert the torrents to magnet links?
>>13535955
>You just like it because it's different
That's dumb. You're dumb.
>>13535963
Nah, I actually found the magnets on kat. They have very few seeds, but it's no problem.
>>13535965
So is every single G-Reco characters but I don't see you complaining about that.
>>13535969
It doesn't look like they have all the episodes though.
>>13535893
>nobody would say that Hirai was SEED's showrunner.
You'd be surprised
>>13535984
Oh, huh.
Yeah 10 and 11 seem to be missing.
>>13535311
>>beautiful artstyle
yes
>>fluid animation
not all the time but its decent for tv
>>great soundtrack
i cant deny it
>>unique setting
yes true
>>phenomenal worldbuilding
its was done poorly
>>self aware and tropesubverting writing
it used a lot of gundam and tomino tropes so no.
>>continues main Gundam timelines without feeling forced
eh should have just be AU. has nothing to do with uc or cc.
>>13536013
Found the retard
>>13536019
found the g-rectum
>>13535984
>>13536004
Bingo! Got all 26 episodes at 1080p in my queue.
Magnet links 4 posterity
http://pastebin.com/yfqBVjU0
>>13535893
>Fukuda didn't direct CA, he was its producer.
He was in charge of the entire project retard
>>13536211
>He was in charge of the entire project retard
That's literally what a producer does.
>>13535955
>When you give too much focus on the small things while the big picture can end up a spectacular mess
That makes no fucking sense. All the small details make up the big picture, its whe you don't put anything into your setting you wind up with shit like A/Z. You're not exactly proving what makes G-Reco a "mess"
>>13536219
No its not dumbfuck. He had to explain his position over his twitter that he was in charge of the entire project from the direction, cast choices etc. That's a different from a producer.
>>13535685
>Oh boy, here we go. Of course I was stating my opinion.
So don't fucking state it like it's law next time, there's a pointer.
>>13536013
>its was done poorly
Nope
>it used a lot of gundam and tomino tropes so no.
Wrong again dumbfuck
>eh should have just be AU. has nothing to do with uc or cc.
No and no
>>13536234
>BAWW DON'T INSULT MY FAVORITE SHIT
fuck off moron
G shit was fucking garbage and nothing you whine about will change that
enjoy yoiur stinking shit
>>13535311
It forgot that the first and most important duty of an anime is..."to entertain."
It just doesn't entertain some anons, so none of that matters if it can't get people to even watch.
>>13536277
>It forgot that the first and most important duty of an anime is..."to entertain."
No you're just retarded
>>13536277
I haven't watched it yet, but the notion that any sort of media has to do anything for its audience is foolish and adolescent.
Also, who are you quoting?
>>13535328
>Panning shots, wow such animated
>>>/r/eddit
>>13536160
OZC didn't have the specials?
>>13536305
He did, but they're on nyaa.
If it comes to it, I'll just find them again.
>>13536291
>the notion that any sort of media has to do anything for its audience is foolish and adolescent
>>13535311
>Beautiful artstyle
Eh, depends on the character and the shot. Bellri's smile makes me want to punch him in the face every time I see it.
>Fluid animation
It's a pretty show, I'll give you that one.
>great soundtrack
I personally can't remember a single track from the show, but I know it wasn't bad.
>unique setting
Nah, not really.
>phenomenal worldbuilding
The world really doesn't feel that fleshed out to me. I don't really think a mecha anime needs to be necessarily. However, I was in that camp of "what the fuck is going on, why are there all these factions and why do they keep switching around" for a while until I read up on it. People will throw around the "it's too smart for you" argument, but obviously, when this many people have a problem, then there's an issue with the way you're presenting your information.
>self aware and tropesubverting writing
Really? It feels like pretty standard Tomino shit, for better or for worse. I don't find the character dialogue to be very... riveting.
>continues Gundam timeline without feeling forced
Who even cares any more? There was a shit storm about this taking place after Turn A, but if it's good or bad on it's own merits, then that's all that matters.
>>13536277
Oh. So Gurren Lagann failed that for me as well.
It wasn't entertaining at all. it was mindless drivel akin to the Transformers movie.
>>13536313
>when this many people have a problem, then there's an issue with the way you're presenting your information
Obviously retard, the problem is with the audience not being intellectual enough to follow it.
GReco is not a show for plebians, only for those who are gifted enough to understand appreciate its nuanced message.
>>13536323
Valvraves shit.
So is Aldnoah zero.
>>13536313
>However, I was in that camp of "what the fuck is going on, why are there all these factions and why do they keep switching around" for a while until I read up on it
>>13536323
In this moment I am euphoric, not because of any plebian animation's entertainment, but because I am enlightened by your superior taste.
>>13536323
>its nuanced message.
"Incest is best"
Truly patrician.
>>13536330
He didn't say a single distinctly negative thing about the show, yet you associate him with shitposting?
I thought it was a well thought out post.
>>13536335
>Incest is best
Go to see you didn't watch it.
>>13536339
Well, given the legions of people either wanting Bellri to fuck Aida or vice versa, you'd be forgiven for thinking that was one of G-Reco's central tenets.
>>13536339
>Go to see you didn't watch it.
Good to see you didn't finish Grammar 101.
This is the type of person that "thinks" G-Reco is good.
It's not that you understand the show, it's that you didn't, and that impressed your feeble mind.
The show is about soylent green.
>>13536356
>>13536359
It wasn't. You're just an idiot just like the rest of the A/Z, Cross Ange, TRY and IBO fanbases who hate this show
>>13536362
Can't you even take a joke, you fucking sperglord?
>>13536369
Anonymous, let me provide you with a little insight in case you're sincere and not just the facebook kiddies playing sock puppets with each other.
The best way to ruin something you hate is to be a terrible obnoxious fan of it. That's the type of person you're arguing with.
>>13536378
Seems fair.
Seeing as how Rectards constantly shit up innocent IBO threads, you guys shouldn't be allowed to have fun either.
>>13536405
lol
>>13536222
>That makes no fucking sense. All the small details make up the big picture
A story can be as detailed as you want, but that doesn't mean it's a good story. Doesn't matter how much small things you show on your anime, because even if you add every little detail to the world, it doesn't mean that it's a compelling or interesting world. And G-Reco's world is completely by the numbers for a Gundam setting. Just because "it shows how the pilots shit" doesn't mean it's any better than, say, X.
The way the information is presented is completely ridiculous. I think it's good when there isn't much exposition, but Tomino goes way too far in that direction and what you end up is a bunch of people doing things because reasons and ends up omitting things that would just make it easier for anyone to understand what the fuck is going on. One thing Tomino seemingly forgot is that the people watching G-Reco are just the audience, not people living with the characters.
Don't take me wrong, I like G-Reco for what it is, but it's not the 10/10 masterpiece some idiots seem to think it is.
rectard faggots need to to be banned from m. this thread is proof that there the cancer thats killings this board
>>13536313
>but obviously, when this many people have a problem, then there's an issue with the way you're presenting your information.
Not really, especially when it is the general anime viewer we are talking about who need shows with constant exposition. This goes doubly so as you hear about so many people who watch shows while doing other shit and even just fastforward/ skip through them while watching.
Whenever people bring up examples of this they will get a few people pointing out saying no it was explained here and you were meant to get this out of the context it was used in.
>>13535703
>trusting a guy who unironically thinks Dragon Age 3 has good writing
>>13535685
>What I liked the most though was the worldbuilding, how you get a feel for how everything works.
>G-reco had great world-building!
This meme needs to stop. The world-building was so poor entire factions are interchangeable and/or disposable.
>all this obvious false flagging itt
>>13536415
>m
is that an urban legend like moot?
>>13536423
>The world-building was so poor entire factions are interchangeable and/or disposable.
Found the retard
>>13536431
DUDE ZANY ADVENTURES WITH MOBILE SUITS SERVING AS COMMENTARY ON THE RE-MILITARIZATION OF THE JAPANESE STATE LMAO
>>13536323
Found the troll pretending to be a grecofag.
>>13536441
spotted the retard
>>13536259
or maybe your just a retard
>>13536416
Yes, really. The simplest explanation Is that the show has a huge problem with presenting and communicating its information due to poor direction and writing, rather than the circlejerk echo chamber opinion that it's some misunderstood masterpiece completely unlike anything seen before. Occam's razor and all that.
>>13535867
Is Kia's gun a water blaster?
>>13536488
>The simplest explanation Is that the show has a huge problem with presenting and communicating its information due to poor direction and writing
You know its just easier to call you stupid.
>>13536498
ray gun I think, though with that bomb trick they pulled it could be a water pistol
rip space Woody Harrelson
>>13536488
That isn't Occam's razor though as you need enough assumptions to cut it both ways. You could just as well argue that MAL etc are circle jerks of idiots who liked SAO and Destiny, giving both positive ratings.
>>13535319
How big does a fish need to be to warrant a Gundam-sized rod? Is the future full of mutant fish?
>>13536488
>greco not a masterpiece oh look another retard
>>13536535
Megafauna big at least
>>13536547
>you'll never sample Steer's juicy fruits
>>13536554
That's Matthew's wife.
>>13536554
>you will never steer Steer's steers
>>13536554
YES SIR! NEVER!
>>13536576
I didn't know they Arkansans get internet.
>>13536579
OH MY SU-CORDO!
Does anyone have that gif of Steer slapping Aida's butt?
>>13536594
>Aida was cool with it
>>13536717
Everyone is DTF with Steer
>>13536717
>muh male gaze
Tomino is shit and sexist and his work should be banned.
>>13536738
K
>>13536738
You can't ban deez nugsdoes anyone have the proper scene of this?
>>13536277
>It forgot that the first and most important duty of an anime is..."to entertain."
That's completely wrong, it didn't try one bit to entertain the average anime viewer though.
>>13536770
>slapstick comedy and toilet humor
It tried, just failed. Everyone else was too angry about the shitty writing to be entertained
>>13536810
>the shitty writing
What shitty writing
>>13536810
toilet humour?
>oh look a toilet haha!
is that what you think toilet humour is?
>>13536823
you seem to be under the impression that the writing was above the level of the average anime. It's the reverse.
>>13536829
Why? You keep calling it shit
>>13536769
I love how she just shooed his hand away, rather than over reacting
>>13536770
>average anime viewer
good, fuck em
>>13536839
This face is priceless
>beautiful artstyle
>fluid animation
>great soundtrack
>unique setting
>phenomenal worldbuilding
>self aware and tropesubverting writing
>continues main Gundam timelines without feeling forced
>>13536833
Let's start on the basic level of failing to pass along its message. Then I'll just mention the character's complete lack of motivation and how they were just swept along by the events as they transpired. Let's see, how about the fact that at the beginning, Bell kept winning via asspulls that were never mentioned again? And how later on the G-Self was just "more powerful than everything else just because"? Truly signs of good writing right? And the characters who had changes in attitude between scenes?
>>13536839
>dat smooth movement of his hand to her ass
I miss Bellri so much ;_;
>>13536859
The truth.
>>13536865
I miss them all
>>13536865
His retarded "ehh" should be in every gundam game from here on
>>13536863
>the basic level of failing to pass along its message
It did that just fine
>I'll just mention the character's complete lack of motivation and how they were just swept along by the events as they transpired
Why is this bad writing?
>Bell kept winning via asspulls that were never mentioned again
Such as?
>how later on the G-Self was just "more powerful than everything else just because"
No it wasn't. Give me proof.
>good writing
I genuinely don't think you know what this means
>the characters who had changes in attitude between scenes
Examples?
You can't just say things without backing them up, buddy.
>>13536865
Bellri "warning shot in your crotch" Zenam
>>13536879
Aida needs to be in a Vs game just so she constantly shouts "the earth is not square"
>>13536859
Everything Wing lacks
Can't we all just agree that G-Reco saved Gundam with it's absolute perfection, and move on to talking about how IBO continues this trend of forward thinking and high quality Gundam shows?
I mean all this negativity just shows how terrible your taste really is.
I'm going to bite.
Because I don't like Gundam and you faggots won't stop shoving it down my throat. Not everyone who likes mecha is here for Gundam.
>inb4 then why are you posting in this thread
Because threads like these shit up the board. You guys literally can't discuss a Gundam series without shitposting.
>>13535890
Manny was a Kuntala?
>>13536902
Yeah, all those girlsand that boyfrom the school were and she gets into the whole muh Kuntala pridu thing at the end cause she was sipping Mask's cool aid
>>13536879
that shit was cute as fuck
>>13536909
that ain't all she was sippin
>>13536880
>the basic level of failing to pass along its message
>It did that just fine
It clearly didn't.
>I'll just mention the character's complete lack of motivation and how they were just swept along by the events as they transpired
>Why is this bad writing?
If you don't know the reason then you're completely retarded.
>Bell kept winning via asspulls that were never mentioned again
>Such as?
>how later on the G-Self was just "more powerful than everything else just because"
>No it wasn't. Give me proof.
>the characters who had changes in attitude between scenes
>Examples?
Did you even watch the shitty anime you're so adamant on defending? Every time Bellri was in trouble the G-Self would pull off a new feature which enabled Bellri to destroy his enemies. Then comes the G-Self specific backpacks which just had functions that were simply better than everything else, culminating in the Perfect Pack, which, while made with Venus Globe Tech, was simply superior to everything the G-IT had.
Bellri was constantly switching between "happy go lucky" and "whiner"
>>13536810
>toilet humor
>Everyone was too angry
>shitty writing
You need a hobby in your life that's not shitposting on anonymous message boards anon.
>>13536859
Things WING was lacking.13 was great though.
>>13536932
And you can do better than defending shitty chinese cartoons on anonymous message boards.
>>13536936
>>13536897
>>13536868
>>13536927
>while made with Venus Globe Tech, was simply superior to everything the G-IT had.
Because G-IT was just a bunch of thugs that took over a manufacturing plant. No one from the Rosario Ten really knew who they were until after they started attacking the Crescent ship.
>>13536927
>It clearly didn't.
I don't know about that, I got it perfectly fine.
>If you don't know the reason then you're completely retarded.
That's not a proper explanation.
>Every time Bellri was in trouble the G-Self would pull off a new feature which enabled Bellri to destroy his enemies. Then comes the G-Self specific backpacks which just had functions that were simply better than everything else, culminating in the Perfect Pack, which, while made with Venus Globe Tech, was simply superior to everything the G-IT had.
See? Earlier you said
>"more powerful than everything else just because"
but you just gave an explanation as to why it was powerful. So clearly it wasn't powerful "just because".
>Bellri was constantly switching between "happy go lucky" and "whiner"
Could you point me to a specific episode where Bellri's change in attitude doesn't make sense?
>>13536927
the last fight was pretty much Bellri and Mask wrecking each other with everything they had.
The Kabi-kali is an impressive machine but I wouldnt call it the best the G-IT labs had to offer
also Manny and Mask plz stop posting on the web, you know how much that drains our photon battery reserves
>>13536955
>>"more powerful than everything else just because"
>but you just gave an explanation as to why it was powerful. So clearly it wasn't powerful "just because".
Doesn't explain why it's better than everything G-IT had, you dumbass.
>>13536917
wasn't the only one
Maybe if Mask wasn't such a slut kuntala's would be respected
>>13536961
I miss that fucking rabbitano onna
>>13536958
Does it matter?
>>13536972
I still like to think she livedand will be back in the sequel as the villain
>>13536981
will that be before or after Chuchumy's Counterattack?
>>13536955
>I don't know about that, I got it perfectly fine.
Just because it reached a minority doesn't mean it did it's job. Specially when it's a "anime for children".
>That's not a proper explanation.
Read some good literature, maybe you'll be able to understand.
>but you just gave an explanation as to why it was powerful. So clearly it wasn't powerful "just because".
"It just conveniently had better stuff" is precisely a "just because".
>Could you point me to a specific episode where Bellri's change in attitude doesn't make sense?
When did it ever?
>>13536228
> Q: What was your reaction when you were first approached for this project?
> Fukuda's A: Cross Ange was one of my suggestions when SEED Destiny finished and when they wouldn't let me do a movie, it took a while but they accepted it back in December 2012
>>13536956
I find it curious when Mask has that barrel aimed at the G-Self he doesn't aim at either of the batteries or the cockpit. He aims at the head. Wtf?
>>13536988
After, she will just have been a pawn
>>13536988
retarded loran would definitely not be safe around guin
"he looks more like a raraiya to me"
>>13536999
his sensors were fucked up? Or he rdidnt really want to kill his friend (?) just defeat him. He and bell were in a weird sort of relationship
>>13536991
>Read some good literature, maybe you'll be able to understand.
recommend me some some anon :)
>>13537011
it's in the blood
>>13537014
>He and bell were in a weird sort of relationship
I liked how one sided it was. Made me laugh how Luin was shouting about being a hamburger and Bellri was there like just no stop, why just pls this is silly
>>13536956
That sequence was cum. Only Tomino makes shit this sweet.
>>13537014
>exploding birds
TORIKI MODO
>>13536979
Kinda, yeah.
Since the YG-111 was a passed-over design made by the moonies it doesn't really add up for it to vastly outstrip everything made by the civilization that gives the moonies their power source.
Granted, there are lots of things that make far less sense, and it's not like this is the first time that an enigmatic billionaire left a super robot to his son or anything.
>>13537046
>passed-over design made by the moonies it doesn't really add up for it to vastly outstrip everything made by the civilization that gives the moonies their power source.
Cause it needed the code to do any of that stuff
Without all that it just look like a failed prototype
>>13537015
Frankenstein
>>13537052
That still doesn't explain why it was better than everything G-It had. It explains why it didn't do that shit until Belliri got in it, but doesn't explain why every other mobile suit is hilariously outmatched by it.
>>13537055
you excited for the movie? At last the story that Shelly wanted to tell will be presented on the big screen without any Hollywood trappings or meddling!
>>13537060
>That still doesn't explain why it was better than everything G-It had
Cause it was a better design. The G-it weren't the be all end all of mobile suit designers. The Rayhuntons just did a better job with the plans by making one crazy ass suit
>"the g-reco is good and you are dumb for not liking it" meme
holy fuck you guys need to kill yourselves
>>13537078
>why was it so much better?
>because it was a better design
Thanks for clearing that up, anon. It all makes sense now.
>>13537078
as expected of the Rayhunton Bloodline
It being the product of all the remaining Rayhunton resources would be a good explanation of its power.
>>13537091
That's the answer in nearly all Gundams. It's always this one has the more magic engine and can out match the other guys, oh everyone caught up well now you have a doubly magic suit
I don't know what you actually wanted. The various fractions had blueprints and the Rayhuntons did the best job with them and focused it all in one suit
>>13535311
>trope
stopped reading
Anyone who believes in the trope meme is a braindead shitposter, kill yourself now.
TROPES ARE NOT REAL THEY ARE A MEME
>>13537091
Obviously G-Self had a bio-sensor/psycommu/psychoframe/whatever that only Rayhuntons can activate.
>>13537193
I love you anon
>>13535311
You're asking the wrong place about this. You're on fucking 4chan, where Angel Cop and Genocyber are considered high art.
Though honestly, while I do think it is poorly paced, should have been longer, and I very much await the revised ending, it is one of my favorite Gundam series right up there with Gundam 0080 War in the Pocket and Turn A Gundam.
I genuinely love it. I haven't loved a Gundam show like I have G Reco for over a decade. Mask especially is a character I'm remember for a longtime.
I wouldn't recommend it to everyone, only somebody I know would appreciate despite its faults.
Though, I haven't really posted about it on /m/ just to avoid the shit flinging. It kinda pains me that this show seems to be hated more than Destiny, Age, G-Saviour, and SDGF combined. But whatever.
>>13537078
Actually the Kabakali also had the ability to mount different backpacks. It's detailed in the model manual. Of course, we only ever see the chakram/earth pack.
>>13537204
Nah the generals were pretty fun, one of the few shows I've seen people truly excited for each week for the longest time. Makes me sad I missed BF airing
The show isn't really hated it just attracts a lot f shitposting and for others just isn't there thing.give it a few years and it'll do a turn a
>>13537216
neat
>>13537218
yeah, I miss those times
>>13537218
The generals really were fun and I usually don't like most generals here.
>>13536863
Bellri's sole motivation that makes sense is that he wanted to tap Aida. Every other motive falls apart under scrutiny.
>>13537227
Man Greco has one of the most enjoyable casts. They aren't all amazingly written but they have a little spark that makes me remember them fondly. Much more than some shows which tried to develop a large cast but ended up making them feel a bit wasted
>>13537123
>That's the answer in nearly all Gundams. It's always this one has the more magic engine and can out match the other guys, oh everyone caught up well now you have a doubly magic suit
So what's so unique about G-reco again grecofags?
>>13537218
>give it a few years and it'll do a turn a
Yeah right after Destiny and Age are seen as great.
>>13537060
>That still doesn't explain why it was better than everything G-It had
It was designed by the Rayhuntons who had access to the Hermes blueprints.
>>13537257
>jammies
>>13536996
Not sure what was the point of this post
>>13537046
heres what i kind of assumed happened
so cumpa, the rayhuntons, lorucca and miraji all from venus globe seed tech to dorette and he starts developing an army but he gets cocky and takes a hold of the government and decides to do the reconguista himself. I assume he must have been told about the reconguista too by cumpa which is why cumpa ran from the meeting between the moonies and the capital. Dorette going rogue is a problem for them, the rayhuntons start developing the yg-111 to maybe appease dorette as a possible new model alongside their morans, but really its a weapon to protect them and their kids with so they hide its true power.They put extra effort in for their kids and also because they know about the nutty shit that GIT have got going on. They also start the towasungan resistance and maybe because of this the rayhuntons are killed. Cumpa's next on the hitlist so he flees to earth with bellri and aida after lorucca and miraji who have grown attached to them plead with him to take them along. To dorette the g self looks like a piece of shit but lorucca is able to convince him to send it to earth as a scout before the reconguista. and he manages to get raraiya their resistance spy in the dorette army to pilot it with orders to find aida and bellri. she enters earths atmosphere is surrounded by enemy mobile suits and freaks out because the g selfs really is a piece of shit when locked and bails. then bellri finally unlocks it and we see the g self as it was designed to be?
>>13537264
nice
>>13537201
I l-love you too
>>13536160
What we really need are centralized torrents for the 720p and 1080p versions.But I don't want to be the one to do it.
Man, greco discussion is nearly hopeless in this board.
I mean, i didnt like the show, but it certainly doesnt deserve threads like these.
>>13537309
Fukuda was the one who came up with Ange years ago, after they cancelled the SEED movie (which they still haven't announced). Sunrise gets someone else to direct it to try and not have a repeat of GSD's infamous production, but Fukuda managed to take control away from the director and do things his way. I believe 2ch were the guys saying that whenever Fukuda didn't get his way, he'd complain to the higher-ups at Sunrise according to industry rumors.
So, to say Fukuda didn't have that much of a hand in CA is a joke. It also kinda shows how far he's fallen if you think about it. His work on Cyber Formula and Dendoh was enough to convince Sunrise to hand him Gundam when he said he was interested (see pic).
>>13537730
>So, to say Fukuda didn't have that much of a hand in CA is a joke
But I didn't. He was in charge of everything in that dreck
>>13537712
you tried, it doesn't matter if you're a failure here to, what matters is that you tried
>>13535311
My biggest gripe is how fucking confusing everything gets once everyone shows up to Sanco Porto or whatever it's called. Alliances being made all over the place but never well explained. It only gets worse in the home stretch. The whole series has this aversion to explaining shit until it gets mentioned for like the fifth time. One side will be fighting the other one second and then they're both having tea the next. Why? Why should I care about any of this?
>>13538615
diet book guy, chill take your diet pills and heart meds
If you can't name every single crew member of the Megafauna, then you are NOT a true Reconguista fan.
>>13538615
>Alliances being made all over the place but never well explained.
It's been a while since I've watched it but
At Sancto Porto:
The Earth navies "allies" temporarily against the "mysterious fleet from the moon" aka Towasangans. The Towasangans proved to be antagonistic by firing upon the Earthnoids first.
At Towasanga
Klim's Amerian forces tried to ally with the Towasangans and the Capital Army tried to ally with the Towasangans. The Towasangans believed that they could use the power of both Earth navies. On the other hand the Amerian and Capital Army navies believed they could get rid of each other. It's been a while but IIRC both the Amerians and Capital Army had a treacherous attitude towards the Towasangans and talked about using and betraying the Towasangans.
The Megafauna is a third party at this time.
In the final space battle:
The alliances are broken up and it's a free for all. G-IT shows up and allies with the Capital Army, saying that Mask and the Kuntalas should understand the feelings of Venusians. The Megafauna maintains its position as an independent party but Aida still allies with her father's fleet.
On Earth for the finale:
Amerian, Capital Army + GIT, Megafauna free for all. The Megafauna is pretty much an independent party once again and attacks the Amerian ground fleet to stop Ameria from conquering the Capital Tower. The Megafauna also continues its fight against the Capital Army + GIT lab that carried over from space.
>>13538644
Yeah, that's about as stupidly confusing as I remember it being.
Also was there ever any answer as to where the fuck Mask dug up a functional Phenex Unicorn Gundam? And why he somehow still managed to job in it?
>>13538656
That's from some one off, CGI event video that has no distinct place in the timeline. It's completely irrelevant, but to answer the question it's a replica using blueprints from the Rose of Hermes. Mask manages to use it but the G-Self is simply more powerful and clearly demonstrated that by speed blitzing the Phenex in close combat.
>>13538668
*replica manufactured using blueprints...
>>13535311
>Why do people even argue about this show?
The only people that argue about it are shit taste new generation faggots that can't comprehend non-spoon feeding writing and probably also find the golden age of mecha anime to be "boring and confusing" as well.
In other words most real fans thought Reconguista was at least pretty good, the complaints are just from 15 year olds and retards.
>>13538668
I wonder if the G-Self is actually more powerful or if it's because Mask is just kind of a shit. He seemed to just be coasting on the thing's raw power rather then bring out it's actual potential. Mranwhile, Bellri could do just that with the G-Self. He was getting thrashed with zero effort until he actually got focused.
>>13538684
Mask is able to activate the NT-D but he's never shown any sign of being a newtype, so it was probably just for show. Not like he can create a colony laser blocking psycofield.
>>13538703
That's kind of why I think he's must be a rather weak newtype. The Phenex is shown amplifying his senses and reflexes to the point that he could impale the G-Self with a thrown metal rod while it was still out of sight. He was worse at activating the NT-D than eveb Riddhe, but it had an obvious effect on performance.
>>13538717
Some people theories that kuntala were spacenoids they round up so would possibly be newtypes, but there isn't much to back it up
>>13538615
The middle and Towasanga is by far the weakest part of the show.
>>13538656
>Also was there ever any answer as to where the fuck Mask dug up a functional Phenex Unicorn Gundam? And why he somehow still managed to job in it?
>taking this short seriously
>>13538682
>The only people that argue about it are shit taste new generation faggots that can't comprehend non-spoon feeding writing and probably also find the golden age of mecha anime to be "boring and confusing" as well.
>In other words most real fans thought Reconguista was at least pretty good, the complaints are just from 15 year olds and retards.
This.
Literally the King's New Clothes of anime.
Did any of you see that post in one of the IBO threads about how all the shitposting on /m/ is likely the work of one guy? I think this thread is what they were talking about.
OP i agree with you on everything but
>phenomenal worldbuilding
>self aware and tropesubverting writing
dude shit had me wondering what was going on.. i had to drop it because they were literally telling, not showing. I couldn't immerse myself into the world.
I had such high hopes for it, everything is all pretty but if you dont have good writing for it i dont think its enjoyable despite the fun characters, awesome mech designs and the rad animation.
Iron Blooded Orphans does a better job at world building and exposition. I dont even mind watching the filler episodes cause i feel and understand the characters more this way.
>>13539327
Fuck off, you absolute and utter tool.
check out one of snapfags works of art
this guy represents everything wrong with grecofags
>>13540028
>Iron Blooded Orphans does a better job at world building and exposition.
>>13540081
Well, no surprise here, since it's probably the first Gundam he's watching, he probably believes that.
>>13536448
Found the retard
>>13540028
Its hilarious how all G-Recohaters are complete retards and no one in this thread has refueted why he's wrong for thinking that way.
>Iron Blooded Orphans does a better job at world building and exposition.
Top fucking kek
>>13540081
It does.
I wouldn't understand Greco if I didn't already know the plot, I can easily pick out several points each episode that would have seemed stupid anf random as fuck had I kept from spoiling it to myself. IBO actually fucking gives you an understanding of the world its in instead of playing "when you watch it again it'll all click", and badly.
>>13540125
>>13540028
Spotted the retard
>>13540125
>IBO actually fucking gives you an understanding of the world its in instead of playing "when you watch it again it'll all click", and badly.
So you prefer characters becoming expositions machines rather than having to watch the show to get the world and the setting? Gotcha.
>>13539327
>>13538682
I don't have an issue with G-Reco's narrative, although there's a things I would've liked to have seen handled a little better, but if you actually believe storytelling on-the-whole used to be more nuanced, outside of a few cherrypicked examples, you probably haven't watched very much stuff, be it anime or television, or motion pictures.
For every film, there are dozens of flicks.
>>13540063
>Those nubs
Also, Re: IBO
It's just as "excessive"(I'm trying to find a better word because Reco actually could've probably been more fleshed out),if not more so on the "telling" aspect of its world-building.
Note that I didn't say either show had bad worldbuilding. I'm not interested in commenting on that.
>>13540125
>IBO actually fucking gives you an understanding of the world
Because its explained verbatim rather than showing you, who needs exotic locals with different customs when you have empty space and red rocks everywhere.
>>13540167
>different customs
Like the 'customs' of wearing powered suits and offering fish to those you capture?
>>13540137
Yeah, pity that it's a damn shame G-Reco does nothing with its setting beyond Earth.
>>13540125
>IBO actually fucking gives you an understanding of the world its in instead of playing "when you watch it again it'll all click", and badly.
You're a retard who needs to have half of each episode regurgitate (often redundant) information at you. If you didn't like either I'd just say that's normal, but you're just retarded.
>>13540185
>pity that it's a damn shame G-Reco does nothing with its setting beyond Earth.
So you haven't watched it
>>13538717
Or it's the fact that G-Reco machines don't have minovsky reactors and don't passively emit minovsky particles which fuck up sensors and computers. Photon batteries are a "clean" energy source. Minovsky particles in RC mainly come from weaponry and ships.
>>13540196
Oh, silly me, I forgot that Venus has a slight presence in the form of about five people, with a monologue from La Gu serving as the beginning and end of their development for the most part.
Towasanga may as well have not existed for all they contributed to the grand scheme of things.
>>13535311
Because:
>absolute shit editing
>completely spastic dialog
>legit autistic character interactions.
the only thing you ever hear from G-Rectards is "you didn't watch it" "you didn't get it" "you're retarded" Why even bother arguing with these people?
>>13540137
>having to watch the world
The information you seem to think is there in the show is not there. Relationships between characters specifically are more bipolar and random than F91 to christ sake, like Tomino literally rolled d20s to decide their actions. Nothing is explained at all and the worldbiilding itself is completely limited. What do you know about Gondowan by episode 13? That they built a ship and fought Ameria for a while. Nothing else.
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The only thing you ever hear from G-Reco detractors is "its bad because I didn't get it" "its bad because I say so" "you're retarded" Why even bother arguing with these people?
>>13540222
So once again you've proven you didn't even watch it.
>>13540273
>The information you seem to think is there in the show is not there
That doesn't make any sense.
>>13540280
And you have?
Come on, asswipe, let's hear a proper counterargument.
I seriously believe at this point that there should be a sticky on /m/ to not talk to G-Reco fans at all, and every post mentioning G-Reco outside of G-Reco specific threads should lead to a ban.
