is it really that bad?
it has to be better than Zero right?
It's just weird and has no bearing on anything else, also the music sucks.
>zero
>bad
>>13528582
Aside from the plane porn the story was terrible. At least Plus had a great soundtrack to go with it.
>>13528566
Watch Zero again cos your opinion is obviously wrong
It's not bad as much as it is just kind of... average in every regard, except in animation arguably.
Biggest sins are an annoying MC, and times when the OVA is utterly boring.
II isn't the worst thing on earth, but anyone that tells you II is good is just waifu fagging.
>>13528845
>anyone that tells you II is good is just waifu fagging.
Can't blame them though, it has some top tier waifu material
>>13528845
This sums up Frontier pretty accurately too.
>>13528894
Frontier wasn't boring though.
>>13528907
Alto wasn't particularly annoying, either.
>>13528894
>>13528907
>Frontier isn't the worst thing on earth, but anyone that tells you Frontier is good is just waifu fagging.
More accurate?
>>13528566
I dont like it, but will be sad forever because Hasegawa won't release a 1/72 version of this beauty so i can have it in my collection.
>>13528921
No, it's not perfect but it was still a good TV series and the movies were good too.
>>13528566
It is better than Zero, and I honestly enjoyed it more than Frontier.
>>13528574
>>13528845
>>13528907
No, it was annoying.
>>13528845
On the annoyance scale, Hibiki is kind of par for the course as Macross MCs go.
I'll give him brownie points for being different and actually learning to be a little less annoying in any event.
>>13530891
Can you really not come up with a substantial counter argument?
>>13528566
>is it really that bad?
Just medicore
>it has to be better than Zero right?
It is
>>13528566
It's not bad. It's basically Macross redone. The reason it's relegated to alternate universe status is because kawamori didn't work on it. Also, it had awesome designs.
>>13528566
It's alright
>>13532065
>it's not canon so it's bad
>music sucks
>bawww waifufags
>you can't come up with an argument
Explain to me why you're not an idiot.
I liked it. It does pretty normal Macross things. Had some real sexy Valkyries and Macross Cannons too
>>13528566
I liked it. A little boring, an asspull or two here and there, but otherwise I was a fan. It does cool stuff.