>Look at all Gundam series on Wikipedia to see if anything interests me
>It happens to have the in-universe time each series takes place in
>Look at all of them
>U.C.
>F.C.
>A.C.
>A.W.
>C.C.
>C.E.
>A.D.
>A.G.
>R.C.
>Even fucking P.D.
What the fuck is all this shit?
>>13525126
I've officially been here too long that I know what all the abbrevations mean without having to take a second to think.
>>13525126
>What the fuck is all this shit?
You being a HUMONGOUS 'tard.
>>13525126
Everything except the first three series are in alternate universes and thus were given separate calendars as a shorthand for their timeline.
>>13525126
>>U.C.
Only one you need to know, rest is one offs.
Also ZZ isn't canon
>>13525179
Hello again Black_Knight. You forgot to put your trip on again. Useless faggot.
>>13525188
>Only one person thinks ZZ is garbage
Really?
>>13525126
Perhaps you should have read the rest of the Wikipedia entry first before making this post
UC series are all part of one continuous timeline and are all set in the same universe. CC an RC exist in it but are thousands of years later
Everything else can be considered AU /alt universe stuff and are all shows that have their own timelines and are set in their own universes and have no relation to the original timeline or with each other, which is why there are so many. So IBO which I imagine you're here because of, is in its own universe with its own unique setting and has no relation to previous works.
>>13525126
A.D. is Anno Domini, come on now, that's one we actually use in real life.
>>13525205
What about CE? That has Haro, too.
>>13525126
Here's the guide
>>13525171
Isn't avatarfagging against the rules?
![[TB-MGRT]_Record_of_Lodoss_War_01_[1436x1080_BD_Hi10_Dual_Audio].mkv_snapshot_07.13_[2015.02.18_21.56.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4PDAaqr.jpg "[TB-MGRT]_Record_of_Lodoss_War_01_[1436x1080_BD_Hi10_Dual_Audio].mkv_snapshot_07.13_[2015.02.18_21.56.28].jpg")
>>13525126
There are Lodoss BDs you know, you should use a higher quality image.
I wonder if I should watch the TV series. The answer is "probably not".
>>13525126
Gundam has more than one timeline.
UC, CC, RC are explicitly one continuity. The rest are basically independent but get references in CC.
>>13525229
Ah yes haro: CE
The Japanese release of halo: combat evolved
Repackaged as gundam so it would sell better
>>13525198
>garbage
>non-canon
>>13525260
That could actually work.
>>13525248
If you're the person who believes Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is better than the original anime adaptation because it's more faithful to the source material, then you should watch the TV series.
Yes, they are the same thing. Yes, the Lodoss OVA does create its own original plot and ending halfway through after running out of source material.
>>13525179
Despite what we may want, ZZ is cannon
>>13525240
Isn't that a reaction image?
>>13525263
ok, it's garbage AND not canon
>>13525279
>>13525287
>canon
no such thing, dinguses
>>13525126
>not knowing what A.D is
COME ONE IT'S 2015
>>13525307
It's C.E. actually
>>13525126
There's only one Chronology, the Universal Century. Everything else is just a further refinement of the UC calendar, pinpointing specific eras of history and technology. It's just like Dark Souls repeating itself over and over again.
>>13525328
>It's C.E. actually
I wonder what major event could have have happened roughly 2014 years ago?
It's anno Domini nostri Iesu 2015. Deal with it.
>>13525281
Nah, there's a dedicated /co/ shitposter who only posts Star vs. the Forces of Evil images. Prevailing theories in the /svfe/ general is that he's a guerilla marketing shill trying to fulfill the terms of his contract, so he's breaking two rules. Just report and hide.
>>13525348
>Dark Souls
pls go
>>13525351
Actually, Jesus was born somewhere between 6 and 4 B.C.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Jesus#Nativity_accounts:_Luke_and_Matthew
>>13525351
Did you know there's a faction of historians who claim that CE is too easy to mistake for Christian Era and so they're promoting the alternative HE, or Holocene Era.
>>13525368
Hence the roughly.
>>13525376
I actually did not know that. Interesting.
>>13525376
Holocene Era doesn't even start at the same year. Turn put it back 10,000 years.
There's even a year 0.
>>13525410
>>13525389
That's the point. It tries to divorce the calendar entirely from traditional Western calendars.
>>13525376
Not suprised in the least, by the Muh feeling nut jobs.
>>13525248
that first episode is so great.
>>13525414
Fucking commies,
A.D. 4 LIFE
>communist era
>>13525844
>Communist Era
>Communist have personality cults
>Lacus has a personality cult
>Lacus = Mao
It all makes sense now
>>13525275
But Brotherhood is better than the original because it's more faithful. Because the manga is better than the original anime.
>>13525126
>U.C.
Universal Century, the era of the original Mobile Suit Gundam (UC0079), this is what replaced Anno Domini as the calendar era when mankind began moving its population off the earth and into orbiting space colonies designed to be sustainable habitats
>F.C.
Future Century, the calendar era of G Gundam, a far-future era where many humans effectively have super powers and war has been replaced by tournament combat by national representatives to win the right for their government to govern for four years
>A.C.
After Colony, the era of Mobile Suit Gundam Wing. Like UC, this calendar counts from when mankind began moving into orbital colonies (this has happened several times, they keep getting destroyed and forgotten)
>A.W.
After War, the era of After War Gundam X, a post-apocalyptic wasteland that is still the most upbeat Gundam show
>C.C.
Correct Century, the timeline of Turn-A which retconned FC, AW, and AC from being alternate realities to being separate eras of history. CC starts around UC 8000 when all technology was wiped out by a nanomachine weapon of mass destruction, and by UC 10,500 they had switched to the RC calendar.
>C.E.
Cosmic Era, the era of Gundam SEED. Like UC and AC, this counts time from the historical event of mankind moving out into space colonies (again).
>A.D.
This one is actually wrong. In the 00 anime it's 西暦 ("seireki") which means "Western Calendar" so it should be WC. In real life, the term 西暦 refers to the AD calendar so the subs and dub translate it this way, but 00's Western Calendar is not our current calendar.
>A.G.
The era of Gundam AGE. I don't think this actually stands for anything, it just sounds like "AGE" and is yet another calendar counting from an unspecified historical event. Unlike most Gundam shows, AGE clearly states that they know there have been multiple lost eras of history and that mobile suits are an ancient thing and not a recent (re-)invention.
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>>13525414
That seems like it'd create substantially more confusion for an utterly minimal benefit.
>>13525410
>There's even a year 0.
And that's just as daft.
>>13525992
>R.C.
Reguild Century, the era of G-Reco. This is the calendar that replaced CC and counts from the resurgence of unification that happened in the CC 1800's (aka UC9800's) and is chronologically the latest calendar era.
>P.D.
The era of Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans, which counts from the end of the Calamity War which ended 300 years ago. We haven't heard yet whether this is supposed to be somewhere in the unspecified order between UC and CC (which used to be the final era) or after RC (the first and so far only show to be stated to take place after Turn-A).
So basically it goes like this:
AD (our era) -> UC -> AC/AW/FC/AG/CE (actual order unknown) -> CC -> RC
And all that is in the space of 10,000 years which is kind of hard to believe but it's the official story. Some people will tell you some DC Comics bullshit about realities merging, but that's just fan theory held by people who refust to believe humanity kept forgetting over and over that colonies and mobile suits had happened before.
>>13525999
Not only that, that the geography of the Earth remained exactly the same in 10,000 years, despite the Australian crater, among other things. And that at some point mankind went out into interstellar space. And that at least one of the settings introduces xenos hybrids.
>>13525992
>>13525999
I still believe that Correct Century is just an alternate continuity, like how Build Fighters is an alternate continuity. It's stupid to think anything comes after Build Fighters.
>>13525306
Then who made my printer, cunt?
>>13526019
>the geography of the Earth remained exactly the same in 10,000 years
Tomino's setting notes for Turn-A said that some time after G-Gundam, DG Cells were used to restore the environment by coverint the earth and creating a new surface for the entire planet. This is the only viable explanation for the many craters in After War Gundam X not being there in Turn-A. Also the geography of Turn-A is not actually exactly the same. They do show 20th Century road maps in the background in a few scenes, but official maps show the shape of the continents has changed slightly from what we know.
>>13525993
>for an utterly minimal benefit.
Except there is absolutely zero benefit, except for possibly placating one's white guilt.
>>13526063
It'd standardize geographical, tree ring dating, climatological, and archaeological calendars. You can just say "Year 1000 HE" to refer to something like Lucy's fossils and "Year 12015" to refer to the current year, or something.
>>13525126
Universal century is the main Gundam timeline, it has the largest number of titles, you should start with this.
All others are alternate universe with Regild century being just future UC, and Correct century being the ending of all seasons.
CC, has Turn A Gundam, it shows how all of the universes are connected.
For all abbreviations look here >>13525992
>>13525126
Here's how Sunrise describes it.
>>13526134
Those already are standardized, just to a different standard. Considering that this isn't tied to an actual physical basis, I don't see how it would help. Am I missing something here?
>>13526217
See, if we use HE, which starts at roughly maybe probably the very beginning of Homo Sapiens spreading across the planet, then all these humanocentric records can start from the same point and be measured very easily since they'll all be positive whole numbers. Instead of saying
>These fossils were from 10000 BC which is 12000 years ago and correlate to 0.0117
Geological Calendar
they can say
>These fossils are from 0 HE which corresponds to 12000 years ago and 0 HE on the geological time scale.
>>13526253
I really don't see that helping much. Archaeological dating (especially BC stuff) is already a giant mess of relative dates and reigns and unreliable descriptions. The fossil record and climatology go back further than 12,000 years and have a lot of similar problems from different causes. Geologists mostly work in X years ago anyway (at least the ones I know).
I mean, if it were getting rid of a multiplicative factor or something, sure. Just moving the offset around so sometimes you don't have to use negatives seems like a waste of time.
>>13525351
It means After David.
UC>CC>RC
Then the rest are basically their own universes
Start with 0079 you fucking dipstick
>>13525126
Sauce on the girl? I wanna dick her. Reverse Image says it is from Devil is a Part Timer but I am pretty sure that is completely wrong.
>>13526868
come on son
it's babbys first fantasy
>>13525366
>it's a Snapshit-kun forgets his trip threadI know you're not him, but being a filthy brony is probably worse
>>13525992
>>A.D.
>This one is actually wrong. In the 00 anime it's 西暦 ("seireki") which means "Western Calendar" so it should be WC. In real life, the term 西暦 refers to the AD calendar so the subs and dub translate it this way, but 00's Western Calendar is not our current calendar.
LOL
>yfw 00 is actually a prequel.
>>13525959
Brotherhood also specifically plays on the fact there was a series before it, and references it a fair bit in the beginning.
>>13526889
The Wind in the Willows?
Redwall?
>>13526019
>>13526025
>>13526051
Didn't they say some shit in the Turn-X manual about how some of the timelines might be true, and others might just be dramatizations?
>>13525248
How attached are you to the cast in the OVA? Cause several of them are written out or sidelined mid-way into the series for a new team.
>>13526928
Dude, that's because they started as a regular adaptation and then had to make an anime original story, because the FMA manga wasn't finished yet. It's not a homage.
>>13525992
Except, official Bandai material calls it AD.
![runesoldiergroupcap26[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/P9LYB5G.jpg "runesoldiergroupcap26[1].jpg")
>>13525248
>I wonder if I should watch the TV series. The answer is "probably not".
Rune Soldier Louie is somehow a part of the Lodoss-verse and the answer to whether you should watch it or not is definitely a "Hell yes!"
Best magician ever.
>>13526949
Record of Lodoss War. Pretty oldschool and pretty awesome
>>13527196
Yeah, I'm familiar, but I was just riffing on "babby's first fantasy" which RoLW isn't.
>>13527108
It's not homage that they have young Ed and Al drawing in crayon various bits of op and ed scenes from the first series?
>>13525260
Fuck you for making me laugh in the shitter
>>13526868
> Reverse Image says it is from Devil is a Part Timer
>>13526953
No, it said that history is always full if inaccuracies and falsehoods and in the end maybe everyone just believes what they want.
>>13525179
C.E. isn't.
>>13527260
Cool, didn't notice that. That's hardly "playing off of it" though.
>>13530170
It's mostly because the first series was so popular, they catered to its fans at first with various references to it being a second series. Like how the first op was titled "Again" and featured lines like "I want to go back and finish the things I've yet to finish." Or how they completely skipped the manga chapter about Youswell and Yoki, but introduced him later on with a brief, grainy, black-and-white silent film recapping it. When it got a whole episode in the first series and most would already know who he was.
>>13525999
>the calendar that replaced CC and counts from the resurgence of unification that happened in the CC 1800's
What do you mean by "resurgence of unification?" At least Earthside, things still seemed pretty divided. Ameria being a handful of fiefdoms, and who knows the state the rest of the world is in.
I'm still grumbling over what the Kuntala were doing during Turn A. Maybe they were all in the Eastern Hemisphere.
>>13527149
I probably should. I felt like the "let's blow the entire animation budget on the first episode and then have zero budget for the rest" was a gutpunch when i watched the first few episodes a while back. I'll get back to it eventually.
I wish I could get into Orphen but those two little shits ruin the show.
>>13525279
Not only is it cannon, it's Hi Mega Cannon.
>>13530435
>What do you mean by "resurgence of unification?"
Lily Borjarnon mentions naval battles of the 1800's. That's not the kind of thing that small territories get into, that's territories consolidating into large expansionist nations, which is still going on in Turn-A.
Also the fact that G-Reco is 500 years post-Turn-A means that their calendar (which is 1014RC) started 514 years before Turn-A (2345CC) meaning the "reguild" began in 1831CC. What else would that be?
>>13530465
Yes, I knew about the RC beginning around (probably not exactly?) 1831 CC, but I was completely clueless why that year would be an epoch. That's interesting about naval battles, I'm guessing she mentioned that around when Hughes Harbor was being introduced? I'd like to track down the exact quote sometime.
However, without more info, it still seems a bit of a stretch, even if it's the best and only stretch we can make.
>>13525999
I am 99.99999% sure Regild is long before Turn A.
Like, shortly after UC.
(Though i generally try to ignore things, or put FC right after RC so "LolDGCells" can be used to explain the world self-repairing and the old colonies vanishing without a trace.
>>13533355
Turn A is 500 years before R.C. you idiot
>>13533390
Ah apparently that was from an interview that happened during my break from /m/ related things.
I left when the working theory was that the solid records RC People had of what happened in UC seemed to indicate they came right after it.
>>13530435
oh shit, i want a horror themed gundam where mc is a kuntala and trying to escape being eaten or stop his family/colony being harvested, where all the tech and MS are done in kobayashi's grotty organic crustacean shell style. Thats just constantly grim and oppressive with a nice droning soundtrack.
maybe post turn a moonlight butterflying the earth
>>13533409
Yeah, I'm pretty sure almost everyone figured the RC preceded the CC. I made a lot of assumptions about the timeline, and my mind was blown. It's still hard for me to understand why the world of G-Reco is so obsessed with the collapse of the Universal Century, when Turn A implied the UC was just one of many space eras in the Dark History.
Then there's the Kuntala. I'm pretty sure the Kuntala were "created" after the collapse of the UC, during famine and strife. People in 1014 RC "know" this, and people can keep track of who has Kuntala heritage and who doesn't, even though in Turn A, around 500 RC, few people would know such specifics about the UC collapse. To make sense of this, my headcanon would be:
>UC civilization collapses
>Kuntala used as food
>Kuntala maintain an ethnic/national identity
>Final war and Moonlight Butterfly
>Dark History fades into legend
>Yet the Kuntala stay genetically isolated from their neighbors, maintaining their own culture despite forgetting the specifics of their history
>The truth Dark History is made known to the public
>Everyone goes "Wow, THAT'S the history of the Kuntala? Gross! Let's oppress them like that happened yesterday."
>Earthers and Moonrace develop a UC-repeat anxiety and institute the Ag-Tech Taboomaybe after Guin tries to kickstart an industrial revolution a second time
>>13533448
I would kill for an OVA bridge between Turn A and G-Reco.
>>13533409
Tomino also said in earlier interviews that RC immediately followed UC. A lot of people have taken this as Tomino giving Bandai the finger and saying "I decide what the story is, not you". Even the other G-Reco staff on stage with him were surprised when he said it was after Turn-A.
Honestly, I think it does make more sense to put it there than before all the "AU" series, if for no other reason than the fact that it's calendar date would eat up a whole millenia of the already-short 8,000 year span that they all have to fit into.
>>13534208
um...isn't it just easier to say the catastrophe that caused the cannibalism was the Moonlight Butterfly? And that after the Black History data was revealed, the moonies just referred to everything pre-MLB as Universal Century rather than as a succession of shorter calendars?
Because if you want the Kuntala thing to still be from the collapse of actual UC then they've got to be unmentioned in the background all through AG, CE, AW, FC, AC, PD, etc.
>>13534274
That's... a pretty good way of looking at it, thanks.
>then they've got to be unmentioned in the background all through AG, CE, AW, FC, AC, PD, etc.
I figured the AU aspect of the Dark History is something Tomino remembers or forgets whenever it's convenient. "That was just a playful allusion to the other settings. Except no, it all happened with the Dark History, and all the future ones will too. Or not." Especially if we're supposed to take the 5,000/10,000 year figure seriously.
>>13533409
It's alright. You never know when Tomino is going to come out in public and say a few words to turn millions of lives inside out by shitting up our gandamu.
>>13534263
>A lot of people have taken this as Tomino giving Bandai the finger and saying "I decide what the story is, not you".
Hmm...
>TOMINO (with a big smile): Well then everyone, feel free to debate about all that for the next 2-3 months. I think it would be a good thing if you could make a Gundam complete history. And when doing it, if you put G Reco where I said it stands time-wise, I will be very happy.
He does sound kinda salty there.
>Tomino also said in earlier interviews that RC immediately followed UC.
I gotta find those earlier interviews...
>>13534274
>>13534316
Oh, and another reason I decided to ignore the AU timelines in the Dark History after Tomino's revelations:
>TOMINO: Turn A looks like it’s the furthest away because of the simplistic setting of the “black history”.
>OGATA: I mean, Turn A feels like a story in a future where UC was a looong time ago.
>TOMINO: Not really. It seems that way?
>OGATA: Yes it does.
>TOMINO: Eeeeh. That’s weird.
>OGATA: It wasn’t supposed to feel that way?
>TOMINO: I definitely didn’t want it to feel that way.
So there, he's even shortening the time between UC and the Moonlight Butterfly, making it seem more and more like he's abandoned the AU inclusions. But of course he could just be a filthy liar.
>>13526025
Actually Build Figthers is the only one that's canon
All the other series exist as fiction within that universe
>>13525126
Do you lack the brain power to click on one and read what the abbreviations stand for? It couldn't take longer than like 5 seconds
>>13525164
I don't know AG or PD.
>>13534375
>But of course he could just be a filthy liar
Or he just doesn't know what he's doing.
>>13534375
>(with a big smile): Well then everyone, feel free to debate about all that for the next 2-3 months.
what a troll
