http://www.allgamesbeta.com/2015/11/xenoblade-chronicles-x-bust-size-slider.html
>XCX gets censored in west
Thanks, Nintendo! Remind me why people are still supporting this piece of shit?
They're censoring some of Jessica's outfits in DQVIII 3DS, too. They're really on a "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" kick lately.
>Have censored game
>Have no game
I dunno OP
>>13510304
That is literally Square Enix you falseflagger.
>>13510300
Stop you /v/fag
>>13510304
>Bravely Default got censored
>SW3 got censored
>FE: Awakening got censored
>>13510311
I bet you defend this too. The anime was already shit enough without censorship.
It sucks but I can deal with it.
However, no dual-audio, no buy. Especially after SKELLS.
>>13510335
>Thinking anyone cares about SEED being censored
>>13510335
I wouldn't defend it, but I do like the disco guns because they're so silly.Not the same anon you were speaking to.
Remember to ignore trolls.
Send a mail to Nintendo about it, ask them if they can change the min and max of the sliders instead of removing it completely.
Ask them if they censored things in the story or if it's a hoax.
etc.
http://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/ask/ht/295/cp/591/mq/319
>>13510339
What about DBZ?
>>13510335
No I am not, all I am saying is stop making /v/ tier threads and that in the JP version of DQ8 Jessica's costumes are changed from her PS2 version.
>>13510300
This sort of thing happens all fucking the time, and honestly, they barely even changed anything.
Not to mention, they created it; they have the right to edit it (it's been confirmed that the censored version was done by the same artist)
If you fucking boycott it they won't bother localizing Xenoblade XX (pronounced Cross-Cut)
>>13510324
>>13510306
Already one check.
>>13510355
I can't wait for Xenoblade XXX then.
Main character is a robot, NoA is essentially taking away the rights to make a qt robot waifu with either a flat or big chest robot waifu. Male robots are unaffected.
>>13510356
Nice rebuttal
>nintendo
>not censoring shit for the west
What else is new?
>>13510370
It amuses me how adult people are okay with this kind of bullshit. You need to be +18 years to post on 4chan, right?
Give me the Japanese audio, even if it's a DLC
Why don't these people complaining about the censorship get their priorities straight, who gives a shit about a breast slider when they fundamentally changed the story?
>>13510386
What did they change? Please use spoiler.
>>13510300
Because flying robots in an open world. NoA has to fuck up a lot more than names and some (admittedly very fine) anime tiddies to make me reject this game.
>>13510386
But I can't recreate Kamille in the game if I can't change the girls boobs to AA.
>>13510388
They changed the meaning of some acronyms.
>>13510300
>Remind me why people are still supporting this piece of shit?
>Mecha on a Ninty system
>spiritual successor to Xenoblade Chronicles
>carries over the combat system of Xenoblade System, and while that may not be for everyone, I have not seen a single person who professes to have liked the XC system, who has played X and doesn't rave about how much better it is in X
>skells designed by Kazuho Hyodo and Takayuki Yanase
>enormous open world full of diverse creatures and ecosystems
>soundtrack orchestrated by Sawano
>potentially 300 hours of content if you do side quests, many of which contain subplots of their own that enrich the main plot
I was already gonna play as a male, find C cups adequate, and have no issue with the one underage character being the only one delewdified. Lyn is the only character confirmed to be "censored" according to Gamexplain. Other than her, all costumes from the Japanese version are in, and the only other change is the removal of the bust slider. Nearly every other game I've ever played had static boob size. The ability to change them is a flower made of icing on top of the icing already on the cake. This removal has zero consequence to me. You asked why people are still supporting XCX, this is why I am. I won't speak for anyone else.
>>13510388
Dolls were changed to skells for a skeleton meme
Memes were added because 8-4 felt that the original script was dull and boring
>>13510561
Faggot why are you supporting censorship? You are what is killing gaming.
>>13510300
I'm supporting it because I can't resist all the other things the game has to offer.
It still makes me uneasy though.
>>13510561
>literally being this much of a kuck and a shilll.
At least they (probably) didn't change anything about the robots.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did, though.
Treehouse are no strangers to removing important features just because they feel like it.
>>13510604
What else could they possibly do to the robots besides changing the names?
Did we not just have this thread?
>>13510585
If the cost of getting a game I've waited years for, as well as a genre on a Ninty system I've wanted for more than a decade is what to me is an insignificant degree of censorship, its a cost I'm willing to pay. Pic related.
If you ask me, letting blossoming franchises like these die, because you're so buttflustered you're only getting 98% of original content that you refuse to buy it while COD: Even We Don't Even Care What We're Calling It Now 7, and Madden 53 sell like gangbusters is what is really killing gaming. Thanks for getting upset at my not being upset over the same things you are, though.
>>13510599
>OP asks a question
>I give an answer
>shill
Pic related for you as well.
>>13510300
I can't wait to see what they do with Fire Emblem: Fates, if anything.
>>13510616
>>13510607
Cut them entirely because Americans don't understand mecha.
Cut them entirely because the previous game didn't have them.
Cut them entirely because fuck you.
Give them all wacky robot voices because Americans prefer sentient robots.
>>13510612
Shut up you faggot kucked shill.
Why is incensed over the removal of a breast slider, and an underage character's clothing being changed?
>>13510626
Michael Bay pls.
>>13510612
SJW faggot shill.
>>13510628
>>13510633
>How dare you not be mad with us!
>>13510569
>get rid of philosophical crap, the gimmick of the franchise
>add dank mammys
and people still buy this crap
>paying full price for game that doesn't have full content
>not buying the uncensored japanese version
>oh wait, Nintendo STILL has region lock
>>13510637
Stop white knighting SJWs you faggot.
>tfw /m/en tried telling me /m/ would be a safe haven to discuss XCX and escape /v/'s censorship rage
Why would you remove customization options from an RPG?
>>13510647
The shit posters are probably from /v/.
We used to be able to have decent threads about it.
So why not learn Japanese and import the original Japanese then?
Here's a book on Katakana to get you started.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53782041/remembering%20the%20kana.pdf
From there, you'll want to visit Kanjidamage.com to get started on kanji, as well as
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete
to work on vocab alongside your kanji work.
Some people also learn better with flashcards. In which case you'll want to make an account with Anki and download their flash card program.
http://ankisrs.net/
The cool thing about them is they have programs on Droid and iOS devices so you can study on your phone while commuting to work or uni. They can also be used within your browser with
https://ankiweb.net/
In case you're at a computer but not your home computer, like say at your uni's library.
Here's a deck you can use with Anki that follows the method used by KanjiDamage.
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/748570187
And here's a bunch of resources from /a/'s Daily Japanese Thread, http://pastebin.com/w0gRFM0c Use as many as you can. They're all free and there's no harm in using everything you can get your hands on to learn.
And lastly, if you ever feel overwhelmed and that you want to quit, DON'T! Here, watch this instead,
https://youtu.be/KxGRhd_iWuE
and remember that Connie and I are cheering for you! You can do it! Let's work hard together to learn!
Let's 貢献!!
>>13510649
think of the children anon
>>13510649
hush. you didn't want them anyways.
>>13510655
Because Wii U is region locked and to play XCX, I'd have to import both japanese Wii U and japanese XCX.
>>13510664
Oh. That's tragic. I know the PSVita isn't region locked so I sorta assumed the Wii U wasn't either. But I guess I forgot it's Nintendo we're talking about.
>>13510644
I'm not white knighting shit. Before Friday, every "Censorship is bad" anon swore the lewd costumes were going to be gone, and you wouldn't be able to be do anything lewd with any of the female characters. Guess what? It didn't fucking happen. The costumes are still there. You had one customization tool removed, and the one character confirmed to be underage is the only one changed to be more modest.
How does that impact plot?
How does that impact mecha gameplay?
How does that impact combat?
How does that impact any facet of the game of consequence?
It doesn't.
Don't want to buy the game? Fine. That is your choice to make. Just don't sperg out of your front and back orafaces when you see other people do want to becauseI wont be the only one who wants to.Censorship sucks. Removal of content sucks. As has been pointed out in this thread though, it is nothing new, and considering Alison Rapp was involved with localization, it could have been much worse than what we're getting. If it had been, I probably wouldn't buy it. As it is though, everything about XCX that made me want to buy it is unaltered, and what has been altered is of no consequence to me. So yeah, I'm not cancelling my preorder, because I'm still hype as fuck for this game.
>>13510678
>tfw 3DS, N3DS and Wii U are all region locked.
>>13510678
Sony products haven't been region locked since they stopped that after the PS2
>>13510691
Too bad Nintendo didn't do the same.
>>13510683
>it could have been much worse
oh that makes censorship okay
they could have cut more
super, thanks
>>13510683
Enjoy your burqa outfits you kuck.
>>13510695
>what has been altered is of no consequence to me.
You're more than welcome to throw out the baby with the bath water. That is your choice. Not doing so is mine.
>>13510698
Pic related
>>13510685
>tfw the backwards compatible consoles are region-locked and the region-free consoles aren't backwards compatible
>>13510711
what about the ps3
>>13510707
your choice is making excuses for censorship
>>13510714
My choice is not seeing censorship as black and white like a 5 year old.
>>13510713
the PS3 was 9 years ago
>>13510711
PSP can run PS1 games
PSVita can run PSP and PS1 games
PS3 can play PS1 games (and older versions can play PS2 games)
Not sure about PS4.
>all religious and psychology references removed
>names of characters, locations, and organizations changes
>acronyms dumbed down
>XENOGEARS ON THE FUCKING PS1 HAD A MORE FAITHFUL LOCALIZATION THAN THIS FUCKING 2015 VIDEO GAME
>people defend this
Gonna be real funny when they remove the gay marriage from FE Fates and suddenly people care.
>>13510720
you're defending it
you're making excuses for censorship
you are an apologist for censors
>>13510729
>Censorship sucks. Removal of content sucks.
>you're defending it
I'm not being bothered by it. That's all. You are literally going full "If you aren't with me you're against me" on this, and it is just not the case.
you didn't want that content anyway
>>13510727
>they remove the gay marriage from FE Fates and suddenly people care.
Alison Rapp would never let this happen.Removal of hetero marriage on the other hand...
>>13510729
yep
I hope we can go full 4kids again
jelly donuts, laser guns, American names, being sent to the Shadow Realm, the works
Unless we are talking about the mecha and how it is connected to the story this thread is not /m/. Or did something change and suddenly /m/ is now videogames?
There was a claim that the localization company removed virtually all of the psychological and philosophical themes from the original plot. Apparently they have a record of doing so, as well as altering non-culture specific dialogue to something almost completely random.
Anyway, the problem is the west, its twisted sensibilities, and its terrible localization companies. NoA's hands are tied but if you're going to complain send them an email about it.
>>13510749
I actually did send 8-4 an email, not that I expect it to matter.
They're a Tokyo based company, btw.
>>13510727
If people actually brought this shit up more I might be moved more to support not censoring shit, but all that the /v/ shitposters do is whine about the breast slider and Lin
>>13510743
Yeah fuck Macross. It's just bad Robotech ripoff.
>>13510746
So pilot threads are banned?
This thread is shit but what you said is blatantly wrong.
>>13510753
Nah send it to Nintendo and tell them to please not use 8-4 again.
>>13510753
Run by white people?
>>13510659
The girl who got her outfit censored is a robot no one outside of the villain and one party remember is alive everyone is a robot
>>13510694
nintendo actually went backwards, most of nintendo's home consoles were region locked one way or another, short of the NES but the protables were mostly region fee, all those iteration of gameboy. from the gray brick to the really small one and up to the DS were region then they decided that 3DS was to be region locked, it's the reason why I don't own a 3DS
>>13510324
>>13510355
BINGO
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>>13510759
Did both.
>>13510760
Probably.
Well as someone who supports government censorship in the hopes of marginalizing the groups I think should be marginalized, I'd be a pretty damn big hypocrite if I met news of this with extreme outrage.
Seems like a dumb thing to censor though in comparison to what you can.
>>13510762
I meant the audience children.
>>13510766
>Probably.
Close enough.
>>13510766
Good.
>>13510762
Thanks for ruining the first big twist of the game dipshit. You're not supposed to learn that until like 10 hours in.
>>13510753
They really hate the Vita since its getting nothing but fanservice games these day
>>13510755
fuck yeah I'm so glad white people are back to tell stupid Japanese creators how their works should be
those good translations were killing us as a nation
>>13510766
Did you use the online form for Nintendo US or did you find an actual mail?
And do you know how to send one to Nintendo JP?
>>13510812
>fuck yeah I'm so glad white people are back to tell stupid Japanese creators how their works should be
Not him but let's face it, we do this every time we say Japan has shit taste and doesn't know how to make a show.
>>13510816
>Did you use the online form for Nintendo US or did you find an actual mail?
I used an email address that was circulating around first, but I got an automated reply that told me to use the online form.
>And do you know how to send one to Nintendo JP?
Don't know.
>>13510831
We call the nips out on having bad taste but I've never seen a western localization ever improve upon anything.
>>13510831
Wasim did it when he edited stuff that was 2haram4him, other than that no, there aren't instances I can think of where fans removed content because it offended them.
>>13510300
This thread again?
>>13510852
>but I've never seen a western localization ever improve upon anything.
You didn't watch Ghost Stories
>>13510873
weird
>>13510878
What did he actually say in that scene?
>>13510887
The entire dub is a joke, what he said doesn't matter.
>>13510887
Nobody knows or cares
The original Ghost Stories is basically a non-thing
>>13510887
That's what he said in the dub, the subs are from the second subtitle track.
The show sold like shit in Japan, so the owner basically said to ADV "do whatever you want as long as it makes the show sells, but keep the character names and episode plot outlines the same". So the ADV guys sat in a room and rewrote the whole show as a comedy and let the VAs do whatever.
>>13510887
Who knows or cares anymore. Ghost Stories in the west is way better than the Japanese version. I think somewhere someone said it was a generic ass show in the original Japanese version.
>>13510323
Wait, what got censored in BD and FE:A?
Unless it's just the relative lack of blood. Which wasn't anywhere near as bad as the censored blood-less scene from Xenosaga 3.
>>13510727
This so fucking much.
I don't give a fuck about the god damn titty slider, they need to stop messing with completely harmless references.
>>13510899
And thus a shitty anime became a great series.
>>13510905
Skimpy costumes in BD
Incest and lewdness in FE
>>13510905
For FE:A, they removed the youngest voice type for the avatar of each gender, and in the beach DLC, covered the bottom of Tharja's bikini in the illustration with a curtain.
>>13510916
The EU version kept Tharja's bikini, but changed some dialogue in the festival DLC to be less suggestive.
>>13510905
Bravely Default just got two costumes changed and some sexual innuendo changed. They also bumped the ages of a few members of the cast from 15 to 18.
For Fire Emblem, they censored the DLC beach scene of Tharja with a hilariously conveniently placed towel. Because butts are lewd. Also I think a voice type got removed or something.
>>13510930
>They also bumped the ages of a few members of the cast from 15 to 18.
More accurately, they aged every cast member up three years. So the 15 year old became 18, and the 18 year old became 21, etc.
>>13510905
While not censored, I do recall the English release of FEA removing the Silent Protagonist option in its entirety. It did have a completely different dialogue to reflect it though.
>>13510916
They removed havin Robin being mute or having a personalty too
>>13510349
Jokes on you i watched the moon version
>>13510304
>DQVIII
Hey, at least it's getting localized. I never thought I'd see the day.
>>13510944
Wait, Reflet wasn't the MC in the original Awakening? Not that I mind, Robin and Chrom's bromance made the game for me.
>>13510335
SEED aired on Cartoon Network?
>that embarassing bingo shit
>all that pathetic name-calling if someone disagrees or doesn't care
>same fucking thread two times in a row
>allowing the boob slide to become the "face" of your crusade even though the botched translation is a much worse issue (PS: I'm not saying the other censored aspects are OK)
You're taking a horrible approach to this. It's not too late. Organise yourselves and start over.
>>13511303
Thanks Ghazi
>>13511303
>MUH Nintendo.
spot the latchkey kid
>>13510356
>>13510324
these all seem perfectly valid
Fuck off /v/tard pedo perverts.
>>13511338
Very few of those are even remotely valid.
>>13511356
Its not pedo if its a robot girl
>>13511338
I'll give you "This sort of thing happens all the time" and "You just want an excuse to whine". I don't care this is bait or not. If it's not, fuck off.
>muh bust slider ;_;
Who fucking cares? The philosophy references getting scrubbed out despite being half the point of the Xeno pseudoseries is a far bigger sin than shit only cancerous waifufags care about getting edited.
Is there a Wii U mod to remove region lock? Will there be one anytime soon?
>>13511357
>Very few of those are even remotely valid.
Becaaaaaaaaause?
>>13510852
super mario rpg
>>13511338
Even "Won't somebody please think of the children!" "Some censorship is good!" and "Excuse me for having common decency!"?
That said, the argument that he's making amounts to, "These are things that are commonly said and therefore they are all wrong," which is not an actual counterargument.
On an unrelated topic, didn't Nintendo actually shell out money to get Bayonetta 2 exclusive to WiiU because they didn't want to be pigeonholed as the kiddie console anymore? What happened since then?
>>13511383
>change this niche game that it suits me, someone who's not in the target audience and will more rhan likely not buy the game!
>>13511404
>What happened since then?
Bayonetta didn't need a localization.
>>13511303
spot the shill
>>13511404
Nintendo is the only reason the game even exists because nobody else wanted to touch it. The salt over that was superb though, manchildren would rather the game not exist at all than to have nintendo front it.
>>13511404
>didn't Nintendo actually shell out money to get Bayonetta 2 exclusive to WiiU because they didn't want to be pigeonholed as the kiddie console anymore?
PlatinumGames is almost always lewd, regardless of which people draft them. MadWorld didn't change Nintendo's image anyways.
>literally defending censorship
wow how much of a fag do you have to be to not only take it up the ass but say "it's not so bad"
>>13511422
Seriously? What the fuck am I shilling for? I don't even get this one. How am I a shill for saying you're annoying and you come across as petty? Don't you realize that you don't have a way of knowing if those people you start calling those retarded buzzwords are going to pirate the game or not, if they like Nintendo or not or if they're okay with censorship? This thread could be used as a compilation for all the stupid names you start calling people for not caring as much as you do about this.
What the fuck ever, man.
>>13511499
Shitposting on 4chan doesn't do a thing to change anything, wish you idiots would learn that.
>>13511237
Yeah, I don't care if they dress Jessica like an Amish woman, we're actually getting it (and VII) in America.
>>13511523
this
retards will stick up for censors regardless of people on 4chan
>>13511530
Did they edit 7 when it was the PS1?
>>13511499
People will ALWAYS defend Nintendo. Manchildren and their nostalgia.
I sleep well at night knowing every Nintendo console is less relevant than the last.
>>13510300
I want /v/ to leave
We COULD discuss about something actually important and relevent like the removal of allusions to the previous xeno series games and whatever other story changes, but instead you decide to pick something nobody gives a shit about like one fucking costume piece on an npc and a damn tit slider. Both of which are petty things to focus on. and stop being so damn black and white about the issue because it doesnt work
>Idea Factory and NIS games get censored for PC and Vita
>"D-DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL. W-WHO CARES."
>Game on Nintendo platform gets censored
>"SJWS ARE RUINING THE PLANET AND YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM."
Reminds me when people were bringing up Yokai Watch, a game literally marketed towards nothing but children in the states.
>>13511499
>Pointless name changes revealed a few months back
>Mild grumbling and annoyance
>Titty slider removed
>BREAK OUT THE TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS
I hope you realize that at this point no one that matters is going to take you seriously, whether you're correct or not. Especially not three weeks before the release date.
On top of that I really doubt half the people going ballistic over this had any intention of playing the game in the first place, and just want to join in either out of principle or to stir the shitstorm.
>I don't care so nobody else should either
How much of the censorship will be things that weren't even in the original game, I wonder?
I've always been fascinated by the ruse wherein one asserts that the absence of something that was never there is in fact censorship.
>>13511489
>PlatinumGames is almost always lewd, regardless of which people draft them.
That explains all of the continuity porn in Transformers Devastation.
>>13511544
>black and white about the issue because it doesnt work
It does work. The only right decision is the one that doesn't remove any content.
>>13511540
Just some cussing, IIRC.
>in before the eventual remake's localization edits out the crossdressing portion
>>13511303
It's /v/
We all know how well versed and important points they got across in Gamer Gate. They're nothing but the most well organized board on this site.
>>13511589
Too much content is the reason Tetsuya Takahashi can never finish his wild rides, and you know it.
>>13510300
But someone will make a mod of the origial game with the English translation like they do undubs for example, right?
>>13511594
Japanese doesn't exactly have cursing to the same extent as most other languages, just ways to talk to people extremely impolitely.I actually kind of want the remake to bleep out all of Barett and Cid's swearing with random background noises like cars driving by or chocobo noises
>>13511549
>join in either out of principle
lol opposing censorship because of your principles is apparently a problem for some people who love to suck censor dicks
So when are people allowed to oppose censorship, oh learned one?
>>13511617
You're assuming I'm supporting censorship because you're so far up your own ass you can't even read straight anymore. At this point all you're doing is ensuring people are going to be more annoyed at you no matter how legitimate your points are by acting like a petulant cunt to anyone who doesn't 100% agree with you on all fronts.
>>13511612
In those cases I would believe they would just go by context and maybe the setting and character on wether they swear or not. so long as they dont get excessive with it like alot of 80s dubbed anime and when YYH was first shown on AS
>>13511612
They have a word for "fuck" in the same way that we have a word for "schadenfreude." They just say it in English if they want to say it.
>>13511627
>You're assuming I'm supporting censorship
yeah defending censorship makes people think you're defending it
funny how that works
>>13511635
Like several other anons in this thread, I'm telling you to calm your ass down if you want people to actually listen to you. And maybe pick one of many other changes to the game to focus on instead of the removal of a boob slider if you want anyone who can actually do anything about this stuff to take you seriously in the future.
But since you made the same exact thread twice in a row despite having the same exact arguments you're clearly beyond reasoning with.
>>13510852
Cowboy Bebop? I liked how most of the things the actual drew inspiration from feel more authentic with English voices, and they were pretty decent as well. I'd say Big O as well but the japanese cast is still pretty strong. Maybe with the exception of Schwarzwald. He's a lot better in English.
>>13511546
>Idea Factory and NIS games get censored for PC and Vita
Did this really happen? What did they change and who decided to censor it? I'm a little baffled by it.
>>13511643
I never liked Dastun's english voice but otherwise Big O's dub is pretty good
>>13511643
NiS is legit retarded, they decide to localize blatant fap bait games like that Criminal Girls game on the Vita, censor the hell out of it claiming that it would get an AO from the ESRB (while stuff like Senran Kagura, meanwhile, has been pretty consistently rated T) and then act offended when no one buys it. On top of their localizations introducing game breaking bugs half the time somehow. I think one of the Neptunia games could potentially brick PS3s.
>>13511546
Literally never heard of Idea Factory or NIS. If you had something I would've come. You can always count on me nigga
Good lord, when did /m/ become /v/? How could you let this happen?
>>13511612
Alright, but the US version of FF7 did have symbol swearing, at any rate.
>spoiler
Gotta admit, the prospect of that would be hilarious.
>>13511677
Since there's obviously going to be voice acting, it'd be the best way to preserve the @#&^%! swearing
>>13511404
They ARE all wrong because they are dumbass/sheepish excuses people make, without thinking, to try to come to terms with the fact that the localization of their anticipated game was gutted when it shouldn't have, full stop.
Really can't wait to see people's excuses for FE Fates.
>>13511546
>Idea Factory and NIS games get censored for PC and Vita
>"D-DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL. W-WHO CARES."
>NIS' rep is in the dumpster, maybe even below the dumpster nowadays, censored Mugen Souls and Criminal Girls etc. sold like putrid shit
>censored Monster Monpiece sold like 100 copies, online is past ded, IFI responded to the backlash by making the's game sequels get uncensored Asian English releases
You fucking know that wasn't the way they reacted.
>>13511676
An idiot from that place waltzed in here.
>>13511679
Works for me.
>>13511663
>while stuff like Senran Kagura, meanwhile, has been pretty consistently rated T
Except for SK2, which got an M. Must have been the Yoma tits.
>>13511676
im assuming /v/ must be too fast these days and whoever tries to hring it up there gets bumped off the board, so they try to bring their asinine shit here except nobody cares because they are focusing on petty shit
>>13511698
Except for all the people who clearly care.
Even that hugbox Neogaf thinks the breast slider removal alone is fucking stupid.
Censorship is something you can never really do anything about. Be it in game or in anime. The only thing you can kinda do to avoid it is just download fan translations of the uncensored version, for games that's almost non-existent these days though so you've either got to learn Japanese (or whatever the language of the original uncensored version was) or you just try to forget that you're watching/playing a hacked up inferior product and try to not let you bother you.
If you decide not to buy it then it just dies and they say their censorship wasn't drastic enough.
If you decide to buy it anyway then they take the strong sales as proof that their censorship was justified.
>>13510852
NHK ni Youkosou
>>13511708
The only time I can think of anyone going through that much trouble to copy a translation into a game was for the IZJS version of FFXII since that never came out anywhere but Japan. I doubt anyone will bother translating a Japanese copy of a game that's already being localized, especially on a much newer console where there's much less available knowledge for editing shit.
>>13511728
> I doubt anyone will bother translating a Japanese copy of a game that's already being localized, especially on a much newer console where there's much less available knowledge for editing shit.
Wasn't that happening for the new FE?
>>13511728
It used to be more common, games are just so big and complicated now it's almost never done but It still is done from time to time. I don't really keep up with video games that much anymore but I know it still happens.
We should consider ourselves lucky, anime is pretty simple all things considered. Imagine if we had to deal with Cartoon Network-esque censorship on everything we watched. That's probably what it feels like to be an avid video game player these days.
>>13511734
The translation died back in August
>>13511734
Only because
A) fuck waiting for the official localization we need to know what bullshit is going on ASAP
B) there's widespread paranoia about how the localization will tamper with things.
Also people were prying into the game data as is to figure out how they were sectioning off the routes and jewing you out of money, might as well go the extra mile and translate shit too.
>>13511698
/v/'s in full shitposting mode over anything to do with NoA (even claiming some of the costume changes in DQ8 3DS are NoA's fault somehow) and Linkle in Hyrule Warriors anyways.
>>13511734
No idea, but the fact that they started doing it on the assumption that the story would be butchered from almost the moment the game was released in Japan seems equally silly to me. Not that I'm saying nothing will be changed, but going through all that work before we even know anything about the English release seems like it might be a waste.
>>13510852
Black Lagoon immediately comes to mind as well as the toonami cut of IGPX.
>>13510916
Dammit, I really thought the shota Robin design didn't fit with any of the voices.
>>13510300
You realize that censorship is when a government comes in and tells someone they have to to either alter content or they're not allowed to publish it in general right?
What Nintendo is doing making something different so it's more in keeping with the ethos and mores of the West. So basically it's a business deciding to do what it think's the best option is for that market. That's not censorship.
>if you're not with me you're against me :^)
Are /v/tards too dumb to understand the concept of a gray area? No censorship at all is obviously the ideal situation, but thinking that "covered up some skin on this alternate costume" and "altered fundamental parts of the game's plot and themes" are equally as bad because they both fall under censorship and thus are worth boycotting a game over is dumb.
For the record, I made my decision to not buy XCX's localization months ago when it was confirmed that philosophy and psychology references were being expunged because those are fundamental parts of the Xeno series, but I could not care less about the titty sliders or potatoes in bikinis /v/ is crusading about (or all the shit with Bravely Default and DQVIII for that matter).
>>13510764
>they decided that 3DS was to be region locked, it's the reason why I don't own a 3DS
I was planning to get the new 3DS, but NoA decided that I was too stupid to distinguish between the new 3DS XL and the new 3DS, so I ended up just getting a dirt cheap Japanese 3DS on the Amazon and hacking it.
They just keep giving me reasons not to give them any money.
>>13511777
>Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.[1]
>OR OTHER GROUPS OR INSTITUTIONS
>>13511544
Ha yeah but I gave up on telling people that Xenoblade has nothing to do with Xenogears.
That battle is lost.
>>13511546
For the record I am and always have been against censorship.I have hated always despised localization.
>>13510300
I suppose 300+ posts of the previous thread already enough to see our opinions on this issue, no?
Are you gonna make new thread when this one died too?
>>13511823
Nice wikipedia mate. Where does that say that a company making alterations to it's own product is censorship. You also realized that things such as a prohibition of Child Porn or revenge porn is legally considered 'censorship', right?
>>13511675
>Literally never heard of Idea Factory or NIS.
Yes you have, you just didn't recognize the name because the dev CH wasn't thrown in there
>>13511728
>The only time I can think of anyone going through that much trouble to copy a translation into a game was for the IZJS version of FFXII since that never came out anywhere but Japan.
Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix
>>13511675
Because they ain't Nintendo related?
>>13511404
>Even "Some censorship is good!"
Not him, but yes.
The people need to be lied to. They need it distorted, lest they understand the ugly facts of the reality that keeps them alive and safe.. The government NEEDS to censor and control the people, because the people can't be trusted with their own destiny. That is why the system must do the things it does even when it's against the law, to preserve what existence we as a society have.
To put it in as bluntly as possible, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"
>>13511546
>NIS games get censored
How?
>>13511908
2.5 undid the censorship, they had to drop half of it when Days let you play as Xigbar and he'd have a completely different set of animations if he couldn't form his sniper rifle.
Wow, who knew /m/ had this many Robotech fans
>>13511952
>LET YOUR COUNTRY CONTROL YOUR SOUL
>>13511952
>>13511952
>People can't handle the existence of breasts and religion.
There's a significant difference between something being changed in development and that thing being changed by a council of otherwise-unemployable yuppie douchebags an ocean away because they don't like it.
Let foreign things sell on their own qualities and merits.
>>13512015
You know it already does, right?
>>13512023
>edge
It's in your best interest.
>>13512032
I was merely responding to the statement of "some censorship is good", saying that in the right context, yes
>>13512037
Singaporean/Korean Cuccboi detected.
>>13511887
> Where does that say that a company making alterations to it's own product is censorship.
NoA did not create Xenoblade, you dumb fuckwad. Where are you finding this definition that it has to be by the government other than your own ass, right next to your head?
>>13512037
oh wow fascist apologists in the same thread as censorship apologists
total coincidence
>>13512044
No, American. My family just served under Franco.
>>13512048
The system works. Society needs a strong leader.
>>13512057
As in, Franscisco Franco, the Spanish dictator?
>>13512086
let he who didn't work for the Nazis cast the first stone
>>13512099
That doesn't answer the question.
>>13512086
Was there another Franco in recent history that was of note? Yes, Francisco. They sided with the nationalists in the war because they saw it preferrable to siding with the communists
>>13512120
Okay. Just wondering.
>>13510300
>People are actually boycotting because they can't have swelling tumors
How pathetic do you have to be?
>>13512512
>remove content unnecessarily
>remove the psychological/religious themes of the game
>alter the game's script to add memes because the script was 'boring'
>after making a big deal that it wouldn't be censored at all
I'd say people are rightfully pissed. It's a fucking Xeno game. Religious/psychological references are half the appeal.
>>13512578
And what does any of that have to do with titties?
>>13512578
This. It's no longer just about the censorship. It's the fact that they butchered the script and removed everything that was part of the first game. That's like rewriting Pulp Fiction to include Unicorns and Rainbows.
>>13512592
The titties is one thing, the removal of the themes that were in the first game are another.
Besides, how do you know people don't want to use the breast slider to make characters that are flat as a board?
>>13512578
They banned him you know. Neogaf is high on the list of things that ought to go extinct
>>13512597
i know i did
>>13512597
But the guy you were getting so self-righteously indignant at didn't mention the themes at all. He just mentioned the titties.
So did the OP, for that matter.
>>13512597
>Besides, how do you know people don't want to use the breast slider to make characters that are flat as a board?
I'm pretty sure that's actually the main reason they removed the breast slider, since they don't want people making young looking characters and wearing the outfits that they changed to that one girl.
>>13512594
>>13512597
Can I have actual proof from the script of this? Like the dialouge being shown side-by-side in both languages?
>>13510639
Pretty much this, I have a Japanese Wii U and will pick up a Japanese version of the game. I was waiting for the US release and was going to get that, but fuck that shit.
Removing the pretentious religious and philosophical shit is half of the Xeno-series' identity. It would be like Monster Hunter without the monster farming.
I'm actually surprised more women/sjws aren't pissed about the removal of the breast slider. Isn't this literally women's body-types that don't meet an ideal setup by 8-4/NoA being shamed?
It's absolutely ridiculous that this is a thing NoA is still willing to pull on a niche title in 2015.
>>13512610
That guy isn't XSEED's Tom, is it? either way, banning a marketing partner seems like a really bad idea. Was Gaming Age always this bad?
>>13511793
>the shit with Bravely Default
You clearly never played it, because her not wanting to wear that incredibly revealing outfit was port of a series of gags.
I understand you were touched by your uncle as a kid and thus get triggered when you see sexy stuff but if japs can handle it so should we.
>>13512592
The removal of the breast slider is minor, but something that should be called out. It's game content, as minor as it is, and shouldn't be tampered with. Removing it for no purpose- why? It's harmless to have around. Removing it does nothing but cause bad press for your already-niche title on a system that has only /recently/ surpassed the Dreamcast in sales. Nintendo can't really afford to piss off the people actually /buying/ Wii U games, even in a niche game such as Xenoblade X.
The removal of the series and drastic alteration of the script is baffling and an example of absolutely awful translation and localization practices.
Why change Dolls to Skells? I get the reference- the word Skell is old slang for a homeless person or a tramp (though I doubt that's why they changed the name). But the name Doll actually had plot relevance to the narrative. It's an unneeded change.
Why add a fucking Leeroy Jenkins joke? It's 2015. The joke has been worn out years upon years ago. There's no reason to add it. Adding pop culture jokes, memes especially, is stupid. Doing so automatically dates your translation to a very specific time period.
Why remove the series' trademark themes? Part of why the Xeno series has a cult following is from being 2deep4u. That's what makes it stand out from other JRPGs.
The most we can hope for is that they didn't absolutely fuck characterization of the cast like they did in that godawful FEA translation they did. And even that's probably asking for too much.
This is seriously a case of a bunch of translators suddenly thinking they know better than the actual developers and designers of the game. Whenever this happens in video games, we get fucking awful translations/localizations. A great example is how every other Working Designs release made radical amounts of glitches and bugs to 'improve' aspects of the game, as well as their habit of making pointless pop culture references to 'color' the script.
>>13512687
Xenogears is still the best, and I hope one day in the future we'll see a Xenogears HD remake.
>>13512687
>a system that has only /recently/ surpassed the Dreamcast in sales
woah
>>13512705
Best book on the PSX.And the second disc is the best slideshow on the system.
>>13512687
Y-you weren't going to buy it in the first place! Baka!
>>13512512
>"swelling tumors" and c-cups are the only sizes of breasts
>>13512714
And the crazy thing was I enjoyed every moment of it.
>>13512726
some people just can't handle body diversity
sad, really
>>13512578
>>remove the psychological/religious themes of the game
Eh, if the psychological/religious themes of the game are only in acronyms then they weren't much of themes in the first place.
There's no sign that they've actually changed the story itself, just renamed stuff.
>>13512721
Make no doubt, I'm most likely going to play the game.
I'm just going to buy it used since that won't give 8-4 and NoA my shekels. My desire for giant robots is powerful, but it is not powerful enough to give my minimal amount of spare money to people who do this shit. I'd rather have it go to Gamestop, for better or worse.
>>13512728
It's a shame Xenosaga didn't live up to Gears, too.
>>13512753
Gamestop's jewery is a thousand times worse than anything NoA has ever done
Just wait for WiiU piracy to be a thing so you don't have to give your money to anyone who doesn't deserve it
>>13512753
>I'm just going to buy it used since that won't give 8-4 and NoA my shekels.
Same here. Shame I'll miss out on the limited edition artbook.
>>13512766
Enjoy your no online.
>>13512769
Oh I'm buying the game at launch
But if the tripfag claims he can wait then he shouldn't be giving money to the worse of two evils either
>>13512780
I don't think low ass trade-in value is as bad as shit localization.
>>13510599
>getting kucked by censorship of a fictional character
wew lad
>>13512783
You'll be playing that bad localization either way so you might as well avoid giving any money to Gamestop
>>13512753
They already have gamestop's moneydollars you dumb retard, buying it used doesn't change that they got the money on whatever inventory Gamestop purchased in the first place.
>>13512798
Do you not understand how the used game's business works?
>>13512769
>Shame I'll miss out on the limited edition artbook
Probably could snipe it off eBay at a later date, honestly. Or just wait for scans.
>>13512766
I'm hoping that happens soon. Though I can see Nintendo dragging out the Wii U's lifespan for another two years or so.
Here's to hoping they get their shit together with the NX.
>>13512798
You got me there, anon.
>>13512814
Any amount of new copies Gamestop orders from Nintendo is counted as a sale, which NoA takes a cut of. Buying used is just sending the money directly to Gamestop itself.
>>13512841
>Here's to hoping they get their shit together with the NX.
This I can earnestly agree with you on. I've had to skip too many good games by passing over on the Wii U as it is.
>bought a wii u in the beginning of summer because this looked like the most promising /m/ game in the near future
>all this localization bullshit
god fucking dammit.
Which hobo are you guys going to buy first and why is it Inferno?
>>13512959
>buying a console for a game that isn't even out
WHY ARE YOU THIS STUPID
>>13513079
But it's been out for almost a year, m8.
>>13510323
Why?
CHAOS.
>>13513089
This. Nobody could predict this localization bullshit. Nintendo knew what was up.
I don't even have a Wii and I feel sorry for the guy.
Feels great playing Xenoblade Chronicles on emulator though. Maybe in the the not-so far future the Wii U emulator will be working too.
>>13511612
Unless TV-N is doing the localization in which case you have shows aimed at a 3-7 year old target audience where people say "fuck.
>>13511404
The original script was in English, so there was no need to hire 8-4 or Nintendo of America.
Can all of you /v/ crossboarders that seriously complained about this please kill yourselves. Right now.
