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What makes robot detectives so cool?
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What makes robot detectives so cool?
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Can combine all of the fun of robot characters with all the fun of detectives.
Speaking of, who programmed the assassin robot? How'd the construction machine get reprogrammed again? It was those Union guys, right?

The assassin's identity confused me a little, because the robot was obviously different from the Paradigm city robots.
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The best
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They value a good trenchcoat
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Fallout 4 has a pretty cool one.
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>>13494638
beat me to it. is that your screenshot?
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>>13494660
No, I found it on Google image search.
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>>13494684
he is pretty cool, desu.
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>>13494593

Only if you're counting the manga version.
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>>13494638
Is he a companion or just an NPC?
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>>13494891
Companion.
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>>13494616
I need to watch this movie one day.
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Gesicht was badass too, especially in Pluto.
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>>13495229

It's not very good. Watch only for animation porn and that's it.
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>>13495229
It's very good. Watch both for animation porn and the rest.
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Wait why does Big O have Robot Detective K's face?
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>>13495249
>>13495252

It's definitely a style over substance kind of movie. If you're into that, so go ahead.
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>>13495321

Everything on Big O is a reference to something.
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>>13495347
It has plenty of substance, what the fuck are you talking about?
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More than half of these guys are references to Robot Detective K. Go read that.
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>>13495360

Only if you're trying way too hard to see any. The movie is completely soulless. And then there's a Ray Charles song that somehow seems to give people some emotion, because the plot alone can't.
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Was Asimov's R. Daneel Olivaw the first robot detective? Well, I guess he was actually just an assistant detective, but still.
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>>13495372

Most likely.
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>>13494593
Not technically a robot. K is a cyborg.
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>>13495252

And for Rock being Rock
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>>13495512

And yet, another K reference.
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>>13495361
>>13495657
>Everything ties back into the earliest work I'm familiar with!
Get out.
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>>13494568
Because they are Detectives that are also ROBOTS
And because robot bias
mostly bias
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>>13497149
What if Japanese aren't that oldfag?
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Because they approach situations with a cold calculating approach, a must for a cool-headed detective, yet they have to deal with illogical depravity, madness and crimes of passion. The juxtaposition makes it interesting and creates an easy vehicle to humanize the metal man.
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>>13497149

Man, Pero looks nothing like K except in the Metropolis movie. He's not even a robot, but a cyborg dog. There's literally no influence.
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>>13497149

If you think all these are not Robo Keiji homages, you're just too delusional:

>>13494568
>>13494616
>>13495306
>>13495363
>>13495512

Pero in Metropolis is just another character that happens to be named after a Astro Boy character. But his role and design (except for those lines on his face) have nothing to do with the original.
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Has anyone read this?
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>>13497467
>>13497915
>>13497969
I'm not saying the dogs look like K. It's just the only picture with guns being fired I've got.

Although this does remind me of the thread I got it from - someone asked where the "lines over the eyes look" came from, and fucking everybody said it was from Kikaider.

But that's besides the point. I just find it hard to believe that every single robo-dick is aping K. I thought old Japanese nerds read a ton of sci-fi novels back in the day; you're telling me none of them might have been going for some Asimov references or something like that? They're ALL references, to references, to K? I don't buy it.
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>>13498088

K might be inspired by R. Daneel, but he's human in appearance. K is the most iconic of the robots in hat and trenchcoat. And those examples are definitely a reference to him. The one in Big O even wears a red suit under the trenchcoat. The one in Street Fighter is called Q. The one in Voynich Hotel is not really trying to hide he's based on K, having even his trademark hat. And the one in Concrete Revolutio just happened to show up in a episode full of Ishinomori's references. Pero in Metropolis has the colors in common and with Katsuhiro Otomo being a big Ishinomori fan, I don't think he would let that pass.

There's also Superhuman Kelly in Tetsujin 28 Go, but he's not a detective and his visual is obviously inspired by The Invisible Man. There's a similar character in Babel II, but he appears for less than a few pages and it's just not relevant.

Now, I couldn't care less about the face lines. What that has to do with anything at all? It didn't came from Kikaider, and I don't know what it would change if that came from Pluto or anyone else. Those are just lines on the face, they're merely illustrative, they say nothing about the characters, so what's the deal...?
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>>13498254
I think O'Reilly's closer to Daneel than K is, but I don't disagree with you on that point, or anything else you mentioned. I just thought the posts I initially replied to were reductionist. It'd be like if I said, "oh, they're all just riffing on Gerhardt's old look from the Astro Boy comic, go read that." They're not all as blatant as Q or >>13495512 .

>Now, I couldn't care less about the face lines. What that has to do with anything at all?
Outside of what I mentioned, nothing. That's why I said it's besides the point.
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Well, I can't say I actually see anything like Daneel on him, but oh well, that's one series where the robots does have the "R." before their names, so it's not impossible. But his visual is still evoking K, Daneel is completely indistinguishable from a human being.

I don't think there's anything wrong in recommending people to read Robo Keiji. And it's very appropriate for a "Robot Detective" thread. While they're into it, they should read Caves of Steel too. Gesicht is not even a main character, he's just there for one story and I don't think he looks that much as the others to be honest. Well, unless you're counting Pluto, in which he does have the spotlight. But I never read that myself.
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>>13494568
>What makes robot detectives so cool?

They're detectives, and they're robots.

Hell, they're robots.

IS COOL
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>>13498734
I guess I just went off half-cocked, then. My bad.
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>>13498254
>The one in Big O even wears a red suit under the trenchcoat.
Pic related
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The traditional narrative conceit of a detective apart and outside of society looking in works very well with the concept of a robot in a predominately human society. It also opens you up to all sorts of rich story avenues involving robot crime and human prejudice, which are fine and flavorsome assets even in a bog standard detective story. Finally the traditional detective story protagonist, a man with his heart broken by the world is all the more resonant when the detective either cannot by nature or programming feel emotions at all or is only capable of constructing the most basic notion of them, in some cases (like K) physically incapable of even expressing those emotions. Not for the nothing is the iconic image of all robot detective stories the stoic hero standing in a downpour, the raindrops communicating what his own passive mask cannot.
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>>13499716
That's actually a damn good summary of what makes robot detectives compelling. Thanks, I might save it as copypasta if I should ever get asked about scifi detective stories in the future.
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>>13497589
>>13499716
Nice explanation.
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doot da doot da doot
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>>13505136
Isn't he a cyborg?
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>>13494616
I
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>>13505152
Oh hush we never talk about Gadget most of the time
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>>13494638
I think his personality is a bit flat but his predicament in the politics/society of the Commonwealth is extremely interesting.
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>>13505192
I mean, James Bond is completely flat but he is as cool as they come.
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>>13505152
Yes.
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>>13494660
Don't really like his Freddy Kruger looking face.
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>>13498734
>But I never read that myself.
You should some day, it's rather good.
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He does it for Lulu.

Sweet thing.
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>>13495363

Not a detective, just a mysterious weirdo. Dressing like a noir hero doesn't make you a detective.

Also, not a robot. Just putting on an iron mask doesn't make you a robot.
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