Everybody thinks that 08th MS is best Gundam series right?
No, that would be SEED Destiny.
>>12280629
No, that would be ZZ Gundam.
>>12280643
No, that would be After War Gundam X.
>>12280657
Wrong, it's is clearly Gundam AGE
>>12280661
Double wrong, G Saviour is the breath of fresh air the franchise needed.
>Nobody's named Mobile Suit Gundam yet
really?
I love you guys.
>>12280657
Personally, I think Before War Turn X was better.
>no doozybot
this is very definition of shit taste
>>12280675
No, it would be Gundam Build Fighters Try
>>12280713
No, it would be Knights of Sidonia.
>All this time
>Nobody mentions the masterpiece of all Gundam literature that is SD Gundam Force
No that would be 08th MS team
Wait...
>>12280719
No, it would be G Reconguista
No, that would by Aldnoah/Zero
It's not even the best OVA
No, that would be 00 S2.
>>12280787
No, that would be 00, specifically the second half.
No, that would be Metal Armor Dragonar.
No, that would be Valvrave.
>>12280827
D Gundam is truly the best of the franchise.
>>12280623
It's probably the best grunt-focused Gundam series/spinoff. 0080 is a little too much of a comedy of errors, and the 00F and 00V stories aren't all that grunt-y. And Crossbone is just shit.
>>12280847
Why do people say its a grunt show when they give all the team slightly weakened gundams.
>>12280853
Because the pilots are grunts instead of Newtypes.
>>12280623
No.
It was alright, but no. Could have been better written and also studied how real world weaponry works. It also has really obnoxious fans who think painting a toy grey or sand makes it suddenly not a toy.
Dat opening, though.
>>12280856
Please.
Even Newtypes can't make 120mm rounds bounce off cockpit glass like Shiro and his Ball could.
>>12280905
yeah, they just deflect high energy particle beams instead
>>12280719
>Sidonia
Read the manga you piece of shit.
>>12280905
Please, the cocpit is armored with plot armor plating.
>>12280912
except the glass isn't made of cockpit
>>12280905
The guns in 08th are generally a lot weaker than what we see in 0079 and The Origin. I mean, the idea that 120mm cannons just punch through battleships like tissue paper is fucking disgusting.
>>12280895
>Dat opening, though
Yeah it's a shame the show wasn't anything like that. Not the first time OPs have lied to me...
>>12280927
The opening is so fucking good. If we got 52 episodes of stuff like that, I'd be buying the BDs from Japan.
The ED is probably one of the best Gundam EDs though.
youtube.com/?v=_SvFAeXXYuc
>>12280935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HhidoWzm8M
Wrong link.
>>12280927
What? Victory's opening perfectly described the mood of the series.Sorry for the lazy Youtube screengrab.
as with SEED and Wing, 08th gets worse as it progresses
>>12280623
It's shit.
Infantilization of japanese mass-culture, which has started in 1990s, left us with a lot of shitty characters. Dumb idealism, pacifism in the middle of the battle, etc.
Shiro and Aina are better than Sheeit characters, but they are close.
>>12281053
Here's your reply
Remember back when everyone thought Wing was the best (and sometimes the only) Gundam? Those were some dark times.
No I don't think 08th is the best Gundam series
>>12280827
You're not wrong.good subs never
>>12281620
That's because you don't like anything outside of Zeta you fucktard shit for brains.
>>12280847
I would say the latter half of 08th MS is too ridiculous to be considered a 'grunt-y' story anymore either.
Really, the over-the-top romance is what kills whatever message it might have had about the average soldier's perspective in conflict.
>>12280923
If you pay close attention during Loum, pretty much all the machine gunning is directed at the bridge areas of the ship.
I just like the way they did the mechs. Everyone agrees the characters were flat, there wasn't even really a plot, and the love story was so absurd it just ruined the whole thing.
>>12280675
G Saviour is good fuck you
Don't make me summon Shimille
>>12281600
It was nice being 10.
With that said, I'm glad this thread derailed to ironic shitposting because I thought the OP was serious.
Why is 08th MS Team and 0083 so shitty yet there are faggots who insist they are good not-ironically?
MS designs and and animation are gorgeous.
Everything else was mediocre to awful.
>>12280847
Jesus, you have shitty taste.
> liking 08th MS Team
> NOT likining War in the Pocket masterpiece
> 00F and 00V
> huh...
Go back to being shit.
>>12282222
Because whoa cool animation and designs man
![[EG]08th_MS_Team_06_BD(1080p_10bit)[5F9BA0B7].mkv_snapshot_09.21_[2015.03.13_08.31.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/B8WgnC7.jpg "[EG]08th_MS_Team_06_BD(1080p_10bit)[5F9BA0B7].mkv_snapshot_09.21_[2015.03.13_08.31.28].jpg")
I want the Kiki butt.
>>12282529
Wasn't she gang raped and killed by Feddies in the novelization?
I don't even know what the point of her character was. The series would barely change if she wasn't in it.
>>12282602
Yes.
Japanese military fiction novelists seem obsessed with rape.
>>12282602
I'm guessing her purpose was to give a face to the civilians and guerrilla fighters, while also being a sort of liaison between the 08th and the guerrilla fighters.
08th is overrated as fuck. It had the potential to be an amazing OVA, but it's ruined with dumb idealism and romance. Perhaps because of the director change. The animation is really nice though.
>>12282602
I'd bang dat ass.
>>12282602
The series would have had one less cute 90s girl, who is coincidentally the cutest and most stereo-typically 90s looking of any of them.
>>12282667
Good taste.
>>12282691
Does Shiro banging Kiki could have saved the show?
>>12280623
The best Gundam franchise entries are the MSG movie trilogy and War In The Pocket.
>>12282719
No.
Shiro and Aina's death could have saved the show. Because it should be a Sunrise-made mecha, not Disney-like shit.
>>12282739
>movie trilogy
Fumbled the ball right there.
>>12282742
>killing main characters automatically makes the writing better
>>12282719
>>12282742
Shiro should have forgotten about Aina, and forgotten about "muh ideals and understanding!1!" and just fucked Kiki. That is what would of saved 08th Team.
As it stood though, he wasn't good enough for her anyway.
>>12282739
>the MSG movie trilogy
How could it be when the TV show is better?Cucuruz never happened, nope.
![[EG]Mobile_Suit_Gundam_09_BD(720p_10bit)[6BEEC0C0]00:11:57.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UYcKRzV.jpg "[EG]Mobile_Suit_Gundam_09_BD(720p_10bit)[6BEEC0C0]00:11:57.jpg")
>>12282739
>movie trilogy
>>12282760
>Shiro should have forgotten about Aina, and forgotten about "muh ideals and understanding!1!"
Maybe.
>>12282750
>killing main characters automatically makes the writing better
No. But the last episode after Shiro and Aina have gone missing makes no sence. Why did they needed those newtype children? They are not needed neither for story nor for what happened next. They are not related to all that stuff that happened and they are not influencing anything that happened after OYW. They are nothing but a useless filler.
>>12282750
Killing them would have given the show a dose of reality it needed and made it fit better with the Romeo and Juliet allegory they seemed to be going for.
>>12282750
>>12282767
>>12282792
>thinking a stupidly padded 50 episode toy commercial is better than the concise and coherent movie trilogy, which also features far superior animation and a vastly improved ending
I get that you think liking the series gives you "credibility", or whatever, but it really is shit compared to the movies.
>>12282814
>I have a short attention span so I'm just gonna be lazy and talk shit about the thing I didn't actually see.
It has the same fucking ending, retard.
>>12282814
The TV show gives much more detail and exposition to the characters and setting without being stupidly overt about certain things (like dropping the word "newtype" every other second).
>>12282814
>stupidly padded
You really need to watch actual stupidly padded shows.
>>12282833
How about stupidly padded butts?
>>12282833
Here's a good example.
>entire episodes made of flashbacks
>>12282820
>trudging through hours upon hours of repetitive shit designed to sell models to any kid who happens to catch a single stray episode somehow makes you intelligent
No.
>>12282822
>more detail
Unnecessary. Would Star Wars have been improved if it was a 50 episode TV series that went into "more detail"? No.
>>12282851
Did you actually watch the TV show? It's not repetitive. Every episode serves a purpose other than like the salt episode. It seems like you just think faster=better for whatever dumb reason. Would LOGH be better if it was condensed into a movie trilogy? No.
>>12282851
You can't make that fucking call if you didn't fucking watch it. Why the fuck do you think you can? You can't. Dumbass.
>>12282750
>killing main characters automatically makes the writing better
That's how Tomino rolls baby.
Kill'em all.
>>12282851
>trudging through hours upon hours of repetitive shit designed to sell models
You're mistaking this with WING or Victory.
>>12282885
>Victory
>designed to sell models
As much as Bandai wanted to, sorry but NOPE.
>>12282884
He hasn't done that since Victory.
G Gundam in all of it's batshit insanity is the winner.
>>12282842
Go to bed, Puru and Puru, it's not diaper time yet.
So, any other episodes like the one from Cucuruz island or some shit from the 0079 that wasn't covered in the movies?
And does the The Origin manga covers everything? I only read what is available on comic-walker...
>>12282888
"Designed to" doesn't mean the same thing as "succeeded".
>>12282890
I was only kidding, but seriously though, that name is fucking retarded because he was doing kiddy shit long before and kept doing all the time and OFTEN does happy endings.
I like Victory, i don't know what's the fuss with it besides some strange design choices. The V2 is amazing though.
>>12282869
>>12282879
But I did watch it.
>>12282885
Wing is the exact opposite though. The story keeps moving and evolving in Wing, and missing an episode would ruin your understanding of the situation were it not for the catchup clips after the opening. In the original MSG series, the current status of the story can almost always be summed up as "White Base is going to X", where X is a location that changes every 15 episodes.
>>12282922
>In the original MSG series, the current status of the story can almost always be summed up as "White Base is going to X", where X is a location that changes every 15 episodes.
No. Try watching the show.
>>12282929
Again, I have watched it.
>>12282938
>I turned it on as background noise as I constantly checked facebook on my phone.
>>12282938
Sure whatever you say.
>>12282922
>the current status of the story can almost always be summed up as "White Base is going to X", where X is a location that changes every 15 episodes.
Sure, in the same sense that the Taj Mahal can be summed up as "a building" if you're far enough away from it.
The OYW isn't the plot of MSG. The plot of MSG is how Amuro and the crew of the White Base deal with the OYW.
eh, 08th MS Team was ok. Maybe it's just because I don't have much of a hard-on for the military, but I don't really care about what happens on the grunt aspect of a conflict.
>>12282963
Man, I sure wish it was about the grunt aspect; it would have been so much better that way.
>>12282922
>the current status of the story can almost always be summed up as "White Base is going to X"
You do realize that the original gundam is mostly about the journey and not the plot?
>>12282222
No one ever says 0083 has a good story. But the animation is top notch.
08th's fans is down there with the Wing fanbase for being the worst part of the Gundam fandom.
>>12283009
I know one guy, who says that only Seed, 08th MS team and Turn A are worth watching.
>>12282963
08th MS Team gets good in the middle, once you start to become invested in the characters. The ending is pretty boring though, and really the overarching plot of the show is quite bad.
>>12283029
>08th MS Team gets good in the middle
Don't you mean it gets shit in the middle, because it shafts most of the minor cast in favor for poorly written romance and childish idealism?
>>12283009
>08th's fans is down there with the Wing fanbase for being the worst part of the Gundam fandom
They aren't even in the bottom 5.
>>12283029
Probably my favorite part was the Norris Packard fight.
Aside from that it was mostly meh. Also, the Apsalus is pretty shit if you can deal a final blow by punching it.
>>12282953
That's why the movies are better. It tells exactly that story.
>>12283023
He sure is a romantic faggot.
>>12283154
He isn't. He's just a douche.
>>12283146
>a war happened
>who cares about any of the stories in it, I just want this cartoon to confirm that a fictional war happened and then end as quickly as possible
>>12283023
Well, Turn A is Tomino's masterpiece but SEED and 08th Team aren't very good. This guy is very strange, why would somebody who doesn't like any Gundam that came before it like Turn A?
>>12283223
>This guy is very strange,
I agree.
>why would somebody who doesn't like any Gundam that came before it like Turn A
No idea.
Yes.
>>12283223
>why would somebody who doesn't like any Gundam that came before it like Turn A?
If I had to hazard a guess, because they see it as different enough from the rest of Gundam that they can pretend it's not really part of it?
Well, maybe not pretend it's not, but at least separate it from the rest.
>>12282231
you forget he also said crossbone of all things was a grunt suit.
>>12282222
in my case i liked them mostly because their very hammy. 0083 to a lesser extent though also >>12282290 this.
>>12282616
aren't most of them edge lords anyways. why would they not put rape in there...
>>12282742
honestly still wonder why the fuck anyone thought it was a good idea to have them live.
>>12282869
bro the salt was good. did you taste that salt?
>>12282884
they lived through both an explosion and a beam directly at them. why should they live?
>>12283242
i don't think he watched it and is bandwagoning onto the turn A fanbase. >>12283622 that too could be it....
