Cyber Formula Thread Part 3. Senna's All the World's Cyber Machines edition
Sugo (Probably should have a name with a bit more flourish, like Sugo Racing).
Asurada GST
Never seen on screen other than this single image I'm pretty sure. There is a bit of lineart somewhere, but I don't have it scanned. This is the car Hiyoshi mentions in the first episode as not being able to qualify when the GSX is registered to Hayato. IIRC it was used the previous year to attempt to qualify and failed.
Asurada GSX.
Comes in many different flavors; Prototype, Circuit, Marine, Rally, Aero, and Fireball.
>>12073999
that's awesome.
It looks cool more like LeMans Prototype style.
The front wheel arches sort of remind me of the Porsche 956 maybe?
Super Asurada SA-01, SA-01/B, /C
Round5 2015 - Round 5 2016
The Super Asurada, designed by Hayato's father. The SA-01/B was a slightly tweaked version used during the final round of the 2015 championship while the -01/C was used during the open rounds of the 2016 series to little effect.
Length: 4720mm
Width: 2216mm
Height: 945.2mm
Weight: 495 kg
Displacement: 4493cc
Output: 1800 hp @ 19500 rpm
Torque: 160 kg-m @ 15000 rpm
Top Speed: 605 km/h + alpha (boost)
Engine: Cyber Cycle V12
Drive System: CTS 6WD
Material: SCFRP
Super Asurada AKF-11
Round 6 2016 - R12 2019
AKF = Asurada Kazami Fortlan (through I always preferred the Fortran romanization)
Received no official upgrades, but this is where the show falls a little apart for me. Certainly F1 cars are never static within a season, and certainly not season to season (though that was that one season a decade or so ago where MacLaren never brought out the new car because the old one was good enough). For sure it got an upgrade in the form of the Union Savior (Sabre) engine courtesy of Randoll and possibly more. The stats listed are for the original spec.
Length: 4701mm
Width: 2493mm
Height: 942.7mm
Weight: 477 kg
Displacement: 4495cc
Output: 1940 hp @ 20800 rpm
Torque: 168 kg-m @ 17500 rpm
Top Speed: 640 km/h + alpha (boost)
Engine: Sugo SV-2 V12 or Cyber Cycle V12/S
Drive System: SSC-3T
Material: SCFRP
Sorry, forgot to mention that in 2018 and 2019, the AKF-11 is no longer used by Sugo, but by the sister team, Sugo Winners.
Garland SF-01/SF-02
2018-2019
SF=Sugo Fortlan
Again, seasonal upgrades are ignored though at least in this case mentioned with SF-02.
Length: 4722mm
Width: 2401mm
Height: 933.4mm
Weight: 458.2 kg
Displacement: 4495cc
Output: 2005 hp @ 20900 rpm
Torque: 172 kg-m @ 17500 rpm
Top Speed: 655 km/h + alpha (boost)
Engine: Sugo SV-4 V12
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP
Garland SF-03/-03G
2020-2021 (-03G in 2022)
Length: 4722mm
Width: 2401mm
Height: 933.4mm
Weight: 455 kg
Displacement: 4494cc
Output: 2115 hp @ 21000 rpm
Torque: 174 kg-m @ 17300 rpm
Top Speed: 672 km/h + alpha (boost)
Engine: Sugo SV-7 V12
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP
SF-03G
Length: 4722mm
Width: 2401mm
Height: 933.4mm
Weight: 452 kg
Displacement: 4497cc
Output: 2248 hp @ 21800 rpm
Torque: 194 kg-m @ 17100 rpm
Top Speed: 695 km/h + alpha (boost)
Engine: GIO-V Spec-02 V12
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP
Nu Asurada AKF-00, 00/G, 00/B
The 00/B is the Nu Asurada with the Nemesis Cyber System used in the PSX Game.
Length: 4701mm
Width: 2493mm
Height: 942.7mm
Weight: 461 kg
Displacement: 4494cc
Output: 2160 hp @ 21900 rpm
Torque: 176 kg-m @ 17500 rpm
Top Speed: 685 km/h + alpha (boost)
Engine: Sugo SV-7/B V12
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP+SPRM
AKF-00/G
Length: 4701mm
Width: 2493mm
Height: 942.7mm
Weight: 458 kg
Displacement: 4497cc
Output: 2298 hp @ 23200 rpm
Torque: 205 kg-m @ 17900 rpm
Top Speed: 707 km/h + alpha (boost)
Engine: GIO-V Spec-02 V12
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP+SPRM
The issue of between season upgrade in 2021 is actually touched on in the dialogue of the first episode of SIN. The footage and dialogue (Claire's negotiations with Daisuke of GIO Motors) make it clear the Nu Asurada is down on power compared to its rivals, and its Hayato's skill and spiral boost that are helping it to victory in 2021. Part of the reason why Sugo was so eager for the partnership with GIO.
>>12073999
Also, my goof, its been a while since i've had to use this information. The Asurada GST was an early prototype of the GSX. The unit pictured and described is actually named Wind Number 12.
>>12074027
>>12074048
any info is appreciated.
please continue.
So in conclusion for Sugo, its names are as follows.
Sugo 2015-2017
Sugo Grand Prix (with Claytor) 2018-2019
Sugo Winners (with Hayato) 20218-2019
Winners and GP combine into Sugo Grand Prix 2020-2021
Sugo GIO Grand Prix 2022.
Also, if it helps to make Sugo's position in the series clear, they are a small time manufacturer better known just for their engines (as evidenced by Kaga coming to them for Indy Car engines in Double One).
Now onto Aoi.
Now onto Aoi. Aoi's parent company, Aoi Motors, sponsored a team in the very first Cyber Formula World Championship where Kyoko's father raced and team performed horribly. After sitting out the 3rd season, they came back for season 4-6 but again retired. The first TV season is a big push back for them, hence all the pressure to win. Also, IIRC they are one of the companies that created Cyber Wheels in the first place, so this figures into their....management style as well (WIN OR ELSE). Anyway, they acquire ZIP Racing, an American team which is failing during the original TV Series (The 10th Cyber Formula World Championship). They run this team as AOI Zip Formula until merging with Aoi Formula in 2020 as Aoi ZIP Formula. Sorry about the poor image quality for the logos, its late and I dont feel like scanning all these in again. So deal with old early 2000 fan art i found.
now, onto the cars.
>>12074073
oh for the record,
ZIP Racing, Aoi Formula
Aoi ZIP Formula - Kaga
Aoi ZIP Formula - Schumacher
Superion GT (Probably GT-15 if you ask me)
2015 R1-R5
Length: 4734mm
Width: 2262mm
Height: 987.3mm
Weight: 745 kg
Displacement: 5000cc
Output: 1450 hp @ 16000 rpm
Torque: 130 kg-m @ 12500 rpm
Top Speed: 435 km/h No boost listed, but...that seems VERY counter intuitive.
Engine: Aoi Cyber Cycle Engine V12
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: CFRP
Also worth mentioning is ZIP Racing's Exsprose 119 (EKUSUPOROZE). No stats listed. At this point its worth noting that from the first world stage forward (Grand Canyon), every car seen on screen has a name, team, and driver. A driver lineup photo (like the ones in F1) even exist. The same can be said for every subsequent season of the show. If you've never done it, look for a redhead lady. She first shows up in Double One and by SIN is partnered with Jackie Gudelhian at Stormzender in the pink HP-022 Spiegel. She usually is there for only a few frames in the earlier seasons, but shes always there in the background being awesome. For some reason, shes even the Saga opening at the end when you see all the drivers.
Aoi Fire Superion GTR (Again probably -15)
2015 R6-R10
Length: 4752mm
Width: 2284mm
Height: 975mm
Weight: 738 kg
Displacement: 5000cc
Output: 1750 hp @ 24000 rpm
Torque: 145 kg-m @ 15000 rpm
Top Speed: 501 km/h + alpha
Engine: Aoi Cyber Cycle Engine V12 ver. III
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: CFRP
Stealth Jaguar Z-7, -7B
-7 2015 R7-R10
-7B 2016 R1-R4
This is bleed Kaga's car when Aoi acquires ZIP. In 2016 it is driven by JM Lenz, he shows up in the background and will later drive for SGM (Silent German Mind), Heinel's old team, during the later OVAs. This car also provides the base for the design of the Ex-Superion series of cars.
Length: 4731mm
Width: 2275mm
Height: 967mm
Weight: 690 kg
Displacement: 5000cc
Output: 1820 hp @ 24500 rpm
Torque: 140 kg-m @ 1500 rpm
Top Speed: 500 km/h + alpha
Engine: Cyber Cycle Engine V12
Drive System: SCTS 4WDS
Material: SCFRP
Forgot image
Z/A-8 Exssperion (But I prefer Ex-Superion).
Z/A = ZIP Aoi
Length: 4579mm
Width: 2498mm
Height: 918.3mm
Weight: 471 kg
Displacement: 4494cc
Output: 1935 hp @ 20400 rpm
Torque: 172 kg-m @ 16000 rpm
Top Speed: 645 km/h + alpha
Engine: Cyber Cycle Engine V12 Ver. V
Drive System: SCTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP
>>12074131
Incidentally, the Aero Mode on this car is Stealth Mode, not Space Mode as noted in the Double One Fansubs.
Z/A-10 Exssperion
Length: 4579mm
Width: 2498mm
Height: 918.5mm
Weight: 464 kg
Displacement: 4496cc
Output: 2105 hp @ 21500 rpm
Torque: 179 kg-m @ 16500 rpm
Top Speed: 675 km/h + alpha
Engine: Cyber Cycle Engine V12 Ver. VI
Drive System: SCTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP
This car was intended to originally race in the 2020 season, but was replaced by the NP-1 Alzard. It did see action in the first round of the 2022 season where it was completely outdated.
NP-1 Alzard
No idea what the P is for, N is for Nagumo obviously.
Length: 4730mm
Width: 2427mm
Height: 913.7mm
Weight: 454 kg
Displacement: 4496cc
Output: 2180 hp @ 21400 rpm
Torque: 197 kg-m @ 16100 rpm
Top Speed: 692 km/h + alpha
Engine: V-12 AOI Vcon/2
Drive System: CTS 8WDS
Material: SCFRP+RM+T2000 (really...T2000)
Oddly enough, despite the VOLUMES of negative publicity this car brought to Aoi, it can be seen at the start of the 2023 season for Aoi at the conclusion of SIN.
>>12073993
Did we get subs for the series + OVAs?
>>12074148
TV Series was officially licensed by Bandai years ago. The OVA series were never licensed, but Double One and Zero got fansubbed with...passable fansubs, though apparently the last few of ZERO were done without a translator as the original one quit the project. I have quibbles with the translation, but its better than nothing for certain. SAGA and SIN have passable crabstick subs that allow you to follow along for the most part, though sadly for us, those are the more convoluted/complicated story lines that could use a better translation for certain. At that point an increasing amount of Cyber Formula story takes place in the radio dramas, something I'd love to see translated. I do have them though raw if anyone is interested in translating the more serious ones.
AN-21 Ogre
Assuming the A is for Aoi, but Aoi really had NOTHING to do with the design. It makes me wonder what the management in this team is doing....like i found this car, were going to use it. No questions asked.
Length: 4730mm
Width: 2498mm
Height: 923.8mm
Weight: 455 kg
Displacement: 4499cc
Output: 2240 hp @ 22700 rpm
Torque: 206 kg-m @ 16400 rpm
Top Speed: 710 km/h + alpha
Engine: V-12 AOI RR4 spec2
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP+RM+T2000
Does anyone fully understand the difference between this cyber system and Asurada. The only thing I can ascertain from the dialogue is a guess which is that the machine has final say rather the partnership displayed by Hayato and Asurada.
My information on this next team is a bit fuzzy and it has little to no bearing on the show. SGM, Silent German Mind is a team that thrives on technical innovation. They invited the first booster system in 2008 and would win the 4th and 5th world championships with driver John Cleve (the episode after Grand Canyon in the TV series). Franz Heinel originally drives for them before leaving to form his own team, the Sturozech Project backed by Sturobrahms motors. This would later lead to another team Stormzender, featuring Jackie Gudelhian. Sturozech and Stormzender would join under the latters banner while SGM would continue under its name with the Silent Screamer machines.
Silent Screamer Beta
2015
Length: 4272mm
Width: 2136mm
Height: 981.2mm
Weight: 600 kg
Displacement: -
Output: 900 hp @ 1300 watt
Torque: 100 kg-m
Top Speed: 438 km/h
Engine: Advanced DC Motor + Solar Crystal Array
Drive System: Superconducting Linear Wheel 4WD
Material: High-molecular induction C.F.R.P.
Ill be skipping the Star Stampede and saving that for when I get to KAM Stampede later.
Silent Screamer B/2
Silent Screamer Gamma/2
No stats exists for these cars. So just have some pics.
Gamma/2
Stihl HG-161 (-62)
-61 2016
-62 2017-2018 R11
Length: 4341mm
Width: 2139mm
Height: 981.2mm
Weight: 472 kg
Displacement: -
Output: 1820 hp equivilant
Torque: 170 kg
Top Speed: 592 km/h - 615 km/h no booster listed, but it does have one, Linear Wheel Overload
Engine: Solar Activated Catalytic Fuel Cell
Drive System: Cold Superconducting Linear Wheel 4WD
Material: Polymeric Derivatives C.F.R.P.
no stats listed for the 162.
Stihl HG-164 (-65) no idea what happened to 163
-64 2018 R12 2019
-65 2020-2021
This car's rolling cockpit technology was shared, albeit in a modified form (much to Heinel's dismay) with Union Savior to produce their 00-X1 series of cars.
HG-164
Length: 4682mm
Width: 2412mm
Height: 965.1mm
Weight: 462 kg
Displacement: -
Output: 1890 hp equivilant
Torque: 186 kg
Top Speed: 638km/h + Alpha
Engine: Solar Activated Catalytic Fuel Cell
Drive System: Cold Superconducting Linear Wheel 4WD
Material: S.C.F.R.P.
HG-165
Length: 4682mm
Width: 2412mm
Height: 965.1mm
Weight: 462 kg
Displacement: -
Output: 1950 hp equivilant
Torque: 199 kg
Top Speed: 665km/h + Alpha
Engine: Solar Activated Catalytic Fuel Cell
Drive System: Cold Superconducting Linear Wheel 4WD
Material: S.C.F.R.P.
Spiegel HP-022
2022
So this car is awesome. You sit, well, lay in it like a luge, pretty awesome.
Length: 4706mm
Width: 2488mm
Height: 718.5mm
Weight: 452 kg
Displacement: -
Output: 2050 hp equivilant
Torque: 212 kg
Top Speed: 695km/h + Alpha
Engine: Solar Activated Catalytic Fuel Cell
Drive System: Cold Superconducting Linear Wheel 4WD
Material: S.C.F.R.P.+H.P.R.M.
This brings us to Union Sabre (Seriously, yet again, I dislike strongly this official romanization. Sabre seems more obvious and fitting. Anyway. The Knight Savior-006 design base will go on to be used by two seperate unrelated teams, Star Stampede and PPP Belladonna oddly enough. It is also used again during the 2018 season when Randoll is not driving for the team. Odd that they'd pull that out rather than using another Issuxark. Oh well, anime. They did not eat any team at any point that I am aware of.
Knight Savior 005
2015 R1-R3
Length: 4485mm
Width: 2207mm
Height: 935.6mm
Weight: 515 kg
Displacement: 5000cc
Output: 1500 hp @ 23000 rpm
Torque: 140 kg-m @ 11000 rpm
Top Speed: 444 km/h
Engine: Cyber Cycle Engine V12
Drive System: Hydraulic System 4WDS
Material: CFRP
Issuxark 007
2015 R6-R10
Length: 4647mm
Width: 2248mm
Height: 982mm
Weight: 695 kg
Displacement: 5000cc
Output: 1850 hp @ 25000 rpm
Torque: 150 kg-m @ 16500 rpm
Top Speed: 503 km/h
Engine: Cyber Cycle Engine V12-S
Drive System: CTS 4WDS
Material: CFRP
Issuxark 008
2016-2017 R5
Length: 4651mm
Width: 2250mm
Height: 982mm
Weight: 492 kg
Displacement: 4494cc
Output: 1860 hp @ 18800 rpm
Torque: 157 kg-m @ 15900 rpm
Top Speed: 610 km/h + Alpha
Engine: Cyber Cycle Engine V12-S
Drive System: CTS 4WDS
Material: SCFRP
Issuxark 00-X1
2018 R12-2019
This car does have the rolling cockpit, albeit different from the ones used by Stormzender and Sturozech, Randoll needs his tea.
Length: 4651mm
Width: 2250mm
Height: 982mm
Weight: 471 kg
Displacement: 4494cc
Output: 1950 hp @ 19800 rpm
Torque: 165 kg-m @ 16200 rpm
Top Speed: 640 km/h + Alpha
Engine: Cyber Cycle Engine V12/S-II
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP
Issuxark 00-X3/I, -X3/II
X3/I - 2020-2021
X3/II - 2022
Two completely different versions of this car, one similar to Heinel's designs in terms of powerplant, the other more conventional.
Length: 4021mm
Width: 2350mm
Height: 982mm
Weight: 462 kg
Displacement: -
Output: Unknown
Torque: Unknown
Top Speed: 675 km/h + Alpha
Engine: Solar Activated Catalytic Fuel Cell
Drive System: Cold Superconducting Linear Wheel 4WD
Material: SCFRP II
-X3/II
Length: 4021mm
Width: 2350mm
Height: 982mm
Weight: 460 kg
Displacement: Unknown
Output: 2140 hp @ 21900 rpm
Torque: 195 kg-m @ 17500 rpm
Top Speed: 685 km/h + Alpha
Engine: Cyber Cycle Engine V12/S-V
Drive System: CTS 6WDS
Material: SCFRP
Ill be back later to finish the job. But for now I leave you with this image of the internal workings of the booster system in the show.
>>12074158
>At that point an increasing amount of Cyber Formula story takes place in the radio dramas, something I'd love to see translated. I do have them though raw if anyone is interested in translating the more serious ones.
The problem with that is that you get into a loop there.
People aren't very interested because not a lot is translated properly and if you attempted to translate it you'd have to look up what terminology was used by previous translators.
>>12074158
>TV Series was officially licensed by Bandai years ago.
Not in Europe, but point taken.
I know some moon so worst case I can watch it RAW if it doesn't get too technical and focuses more on the racing (this is probably the closest I am going to find to a Formula 1 anime).
>>12074363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJCx_uRGG58
merry christmas. italian dub, but english subs.
>>12074373
I stand corrected. I'll check if it was only in Italy or also in other countries (Italy is a bit weird in its tastes when it comes to licensing anime compared to the rest of the continent but sometimes they have gems like this or Lupin III)
>top speed: +600km/h
Christ.
These fuckers must be crazy to handle. Or the pilots are on a Getter scale of insanity. Does the series deal with this aspect?
Pic kinda related.
>>12074411
They do and they don't. the only times those cars ever reach those speeds are on either teh straight aways, or the extremely wide/angled turns. And they only reach those speeds when they use their boosters. And even in the first episode they make sure you don't have cavities. so you can clench your teeth during high G force maneuvers.
>>12074411
>Does the series deal with this aspect?
AI. The main character in the series basically gets the latest and most advanced one at the start (though it does not prevent him from doing human mistakes at times).
The AI serves both as a GPS (including telling you recommended speeds, breaking points, etc) and as a way to keep track of the state of the care + your rivals more easily. You can still ignore it if you wanna roll the dice by going against it if your gut tells you may be able to pull of something outside its predictions but that can backfire on youand it actually does quite early in the MC's career where he gets a penalty and decides to push the car beyond what is safe despite team and AI telling him it's a bad and potentially dangerous idea and doesn't finish the race because the car broke.
>>12074105
Marie Albert Luisa, which for the record, was Gudelhian's replacement on his US-based team (I don't remember the nave) when he went with Heinel to Sturozech/Stormenzer, and then, became his partner in SIN
>>12074146
It's not the Alzard, but a "legal downgrade" of it, the Ex-Zard Z/A-11, driven by Shinjo and Seiichirou Chiba. Note that for the game lore, the car is so new that Shinjo and Chiba suffer from theeting problems, at the point that Kyoko is reinstated as team manager of Aoi Zip, and she brought back Kaga and the Ogre
>>12074177
The big difference is that Asurada and Hayato need to have a mutual agreement to make something work (lifting turn don't counts because Asurada went for Hayato's safety first), while the Ogre just do what it thinks is better, expecting Kaga to withstand whatever it is (EG: the last spurt in SIN's last ep)
>>12074490
http://youtu.be/1uqE7KfsxkE?t=31m35s
Definetly Al-Zard. The Ex-Zard comes later. I cant remember if the game follows the same story, but eps 5 of SIN definetly shows Al-Zard.
This is fantastic thank you.
I had no idea where to find stats.
>>12074062
I always blamed Daisuke from GIO for some of the slight reliability issues in SIN. He didn't seem to be as good as Claire.
>>12074062
So SUGO really are the "underdog" team. I always thought it was kinda funny that they are still considered a small team through Double One even after Hayato wins two championships in a row.
So merging with GIO was the first time SUGO could be considered as trying to be like one of the bigger teams with more resources?
>that feel when codemasters F1 game is too easy
OVERRTAAKE
>>12074960
Im sure Sugo being the underdog drove Aoi up a wall. Again, kind of explains a lot of their more nutty decisions chasing after titles. Of course, the really funny thing is, none of the teams that won a title before the first TV series, have any sort of success since then, including winning races (except for AGS, but their success was limited to just the TV series).
![[Anime-Takeover]_Future_Cyber_Formula_GPX_Ep15_Subbed_(DD8F90CA).avi_snapshot_10.27.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ctXOVm6.jpg "[Anime-Takeover]_Future_Cyber_Formula_GPX_Ep15_Subbed_(DD8F90CA).avi_snapshot_10.27.jpg")
>>12074993
Poor Lope, as soon as the TV series starts he's already kind of the washed-up has been champion.
I wonder if maybe it was a reference to Nelson Piquet? But probably not. Like how Piquet was retiring right around when Senna was starting to peak. But there's no real similarities besides both being Brazilian and multi-champions. We never got to see Lope in his prime winning races.
>>12075118
Bringing Hiyoshi back was one of my favorite parts. It's almost in a meta-way making fun of the mecha cliche of "teenager falls into cockpit". Everyone always wonders "what if a trained soldier got in the Gundam and not Amuro at first";so it was cool seeing Hiyoshi who was supposed to drive Asurada originally work his way back. Even if it turns out he's not as good as Hayato.
Dragonar is probably the only other example. Where the army pilot that was originally supposed to be officially assigned to the test project prototype ends up helping and training the main characters after they fall into the cockpit and steal his seat.
>racing games
>not playing the best racing game series everAnd I'd consider Top Gear 3000 very /m/ related with the space cars, fusion engines and stuff.
race everything.
>>12075288
That game was ahead of its time. a real classic.
Al Unser Senior is still alive.
still alive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAhYUKQjb6o
>>12075288
Still my favorite racing game. I have the music on my mp3 player and turn it on when driving highways at night.
>>12075491
Although its not for everyone, I do find the music to the F-1 Grand Prix SNES games as some of the best driving music around. The band T-Square, a Jazz Fusion band, did the music for that game as well as for Fuji TV's F1 coverage. One of the band members also composed the background music for the Gran Turismo series and the band itself provided its main theme, Moon Over Castle (also known as Knight's Song).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZaUPGjjA4c
>>12073375
>Machine Hayabusa
>Arrow Emblem Grand Prix no Taka
>F
I wonder where or if raws for the first 2 series can even be found. There are at least Spanish subbed versions of Arrow Emblem on youtube, but the source video is aged badly.
F anime is subbed (all of it), sourced from DVDs of an Italian release:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=594961
The problem is though, I'm no expert, but the English subs did not seem to match what was being said on screen at all. Maybe it's changed since then, I dunno. The first 2 eps I caught were pretty funny with the main character outrunning people in a souped up tractor trailer.
>>12077225
>souped up tractor trailer
That's as far as I got too.
I didn't know F had subs, I was watching it raw.
These threads are reminding me how I used to like watching F1 at sunday mornings (or late night saturdays because time zones) when I was a kid.
Cyber Formula looks interesting. Does it have a Senna expy?
>>12075591
>>12075288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Ow3w2DIRc
>>12079326
We're all a Senna expy.
He inspires all of us.
>>12079326
I'm still watching F1 for some reason even though it got pretty unexciting and is all hidden behind shady confidential corporate deals and probably bribery.
I'm pretty excited about Formula E though, it's a fun little series.
>>12079326
>Does it have a Senna expy?
Not really, but it has (literally) Schumacher as a retired F1 pilot trying his luck at Cyber Formula.
Then again, I don't remember if Cyber Formula was done before Senna's accident.
>>12079404
What killed Formula 1 was ironically the fact that it is much safer nowadays.
Don't misunderstand me, it's obviously a good thing and the last thing I'd wish is that we lose people like Senna to accidents but the cars are so standardized and have so many electronics attached to them that only the top teams can squeeze out any significant differences out of them.
Teams with low budgets cannot come up with out-of-box ideas to make up for deficiencies they may otherwise have.
That's also why you've seen the championship go from having 20-25 teams to only barely 10.
>>12079326
Honestly, no... Well, the MC comes close but he's equal parts Gilles Villenueve as well as Senna.
>>12080131
It was done before Senna's accident.The Zero OVA came out in April of 1994, less than a week before Senna's untimely death...
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HAYATOO
WHY DID YOU STOP THE MACHINE
THE ONLY TIME A RACER STOPS HIS MACHINE, IS WHEN HE GETS THE CHECKERED FLAG
GO HAYATOOOO
![[QTS] Future GPX Cyber Formula TV ep 28 (BD H264 1008x720 AAC).mp4_snapshot_02.27.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rgCSy1J.jpg "[QTS] Future GPX Cyber Formula TV ep 28 (BD H264 1008x720 AAC).mp4_snapshot_02.27.jpg")
>>12081327
Zero became an homage to Senna, as Hayato starts to develop the Zero Zone ability (which is simmilar to the trance Senna was during Monaco 88's qualify - he outqualified Prost in the sister McLaren by 1.2 secs!), and adopts a "never say die" attitude, even in inferior machinery
>>12092117
Exactly. Hayato Kazami is what would happen if you combined Gilles's all-out driving style and natural talent with Senna's motivation to achieve victory and mental toughness. Also, in Double-One you can spot a 1:24th-Scale model of Villenueve's last F1 car somewhere in Kazami's room...
>>12075591
Ferrari Grand Prix Challenge a.k.a. F-1 Hero MD in Japan (iirc). I think I had the NES version, the Genesis version was different.
My first racing game along with Rad Racer.
It had podiums and pressing A and B made the pit crew move faster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w97MjGBuVPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5ydFW7_mXw
Al Unser Jr. Turbo Racing.
Another good "F1" game that was called something else in Japan - World Grand Prix I think. I got the localized version. It just reinforced the idea back then that CART really was "North America's version of F1". My younger version of myself couldn't tell the difference. Mansell leaving Williams and doing CART for a year just made it more confusing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdOGwx_EmuI
>>12075591
One of the best things about the SNES F1 games is that it captured that past era of F1. In some of those games that's the only chance you get to do all the old tracks like the original Hockenheimring, before Tilke changed it. Original Imola with Tamburello corner. The Classics Mode is the best part about the F12013 game (and Codemasters removed it from the newer versions), and sims always try to add at least one classic F1 car, but it's not the same as playing the older games.
>>12097408
>Mansell leaving Williams and doing CART for a year
At some point he was actually the champion in BOTH categories. At the same time.
>>12097431
Any other games with classic racing worth mentiong? I fucking love Toca 3 for that.
>>12102414
F-1 Grand Prix Part III SNES. Top down racer, but has a mode where you run a team and develop parts, gets sponsorship, etc. nothing as deep as other F1 management games, but still notable for its music as well its gameplay.
http://youtu.be/UsX0NlcHWlI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Ge3DygUqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k1lapeMBW4
>>12084053
You thought the race was over?
AsuradaXHayato OTP.
Put the marriage on hold.
>>12108870
The graphics back then made you a stronger driver.
I'm starting to watch the new OVAs and I'm not really happy with the style change lol. Are there any modern anime with an 80's design?
By the way, here's Monza's old banked turn. Must have been frightening flat out with lax safety restrictions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-KLyPyxgSY
>“How are you going to get all the fans to meet these young drivers, who don’t even want to meet their girlfriends?”
-Bernie Ecclestone when asked how social media can help the sport engage with fans.
I'm spending V-Day on the circuit.
No time for bitches.
Relationships just slow you down.
I need downforce not drag.
Alonso still the best.
Too bad the F14T Project Code 665 was shit.
Doesn't even deserve to be kept in the Ferrari museum. It should be completely scrapped and recycled for parts & materials.
>still can't beat the Abarth race Career Mode in Assetto Corsa
I don't think it's the setup. It's me. It's the driver's fault. Maybe I should try to actually practice with the Abarth beforehand and learn the track (Mugello) beforehand instead of trying to jump straight in to the race right away.
You sign up for Formula Renault 3.5 yet?
You told your parents you were leaving home to be a racer so you won't have to do community college homework.
>>12080910
Just when you think modern F1 is too safe the whole Jules Bianchi incident happened. But that wasn't really a problem with the regulations or the new cars, it was more a fluke accident. No one could really predict that a car could hit a recovery crane like that. Cranes are the easiest most efficient way to remove vehicles off the track.
The FIA tried investigating the crash to find a cause, but it ended up sort of blaming Bianchi instead for going too fast in a caution zone. Apparently he tried to hit the brakes a certain way to cut the engine but the cut-off failed and he couldn't reduce his speed in time.
So now they have the virtual safety car which is used in sportscar racing and is a slightly different version of the "Code 60". So it enforces a speed limit instead of leaving it up to the drivers. Before you only had to prove that you lifted off in a yellow zone you could be only a 0.1 of a second slower and not get a penalty. And now I think they are going to put some kind of protective skirt around the cranes and recovery vehicles to try and prevent it from happening again. But I don't know how you are going to replace the cranes. How else are you supposed to quickly get cars off the track and out of the way?
It was a fluke situation that Sutil just so happened to crash there a lap before and had the crane out and then Bianchi in the rain slipped in that exact same corner and ended up in the exact same spot/area as Sutil. Sutil saw the impact up close since he was out of his car. He was noticeably kind of shaken up/traumatized by it. It's sort of his fault for crashing there in the first place. He probably felt some of the blame and personally responsible. Don't crash and then there wouldn't be any problems. I was sort of rooting for Sutil but it's no surprise he's going to end up out of Formula 1.
OLE OLE OLE OLE
SENNAA SENNAAA
>>12080910
>>12079404
My only problem with modern F1 is that it seems to put too much emphasis on conservative driving and doesn't really reward aggressive driving anymore. Yes, it's a good skill to be a smooth driver and save your tires and burn less fuel while still going fast, but I think the new regulations take it too far with the conservation. You should be able to go flat-out at the maximum and drive aggressive all the time.
The 2013 regulations had no refueling and you still had 160kg of fuel for the race compared to only 100kg in 2014 and no fuel flow limit. So you could run a rich or lean fuel mix and still have more than enough for the race. But some would argue that there shouldn't even be a "lean" setting in the first place. And these new rules with all this conservation of fuel doesn't lower the costs it actually made the sport more expensive. It was cheaper to run the 8 naturally aspirated V8 engines for a total season than it is to run these new 5 hybrid power units.
It's still fast racing, it's nowhere near "slow". But you expect F1 to get better and faster every year, and lately it feels like the performance has plateaued. Yes it's a miracle that they can manage to run a full grand prix at all, on only 100kg of fuel, and of course you want rules that emphasize reliability; but it shouldn't have to be taken this far to sacrifice the speed of the racing.
I guess the new aero package makes things more difficult for the drivers and forces them to adapt since the cars have less overall downforce. There's only a small window during the race where the car is at the optimum and you can go flat out and do your best lap times. From the start of the race the car will burn fuel and get lighter but it's offset by the tyre degradation, and then eventually you have to turn down the fuel mixture to make sure you have enough to finish the race. Whereas in the 90s/early mid 2000s you could always be at the optimum.
Another opinion here, titled : "We want inefficiency, they don't."
I never looked much into who decided on the rules of Formula 1, but whoever write the rules is -from my POV- apparently writing them to encourage technology that can benefit to everyday cars, environmental problems, economy...etc
Rather than what many of us would like : A spectacular and bloody race of steel and fire !
It sound logical. When they pour so much money into racing the constructors themselves want to show that their technology is best suited for the problems of todays.
No point for them to show they can put a jet engine on a car and that it is hard to control. Jet-engine are inefficient here and computerized drive control is the future.
>>12079326
I'm probably the last person Cyber Formula is geared towards. I don't consider racing to be a "professional sport" and I utterly dispise NASCAR. I did sort of enjoy watching Monster Jam on TNN thoughMy grandfather used to force me and my cousin to watch bull riding afterwards unfortunately
Dos anybody have that webm of Schumacher's visor going down and him going through all of that drifting? If not that, I remember that his visor went down and there was some really impressive animation afterwards.
>>12122266
I guess there's no point resisting the future. Ricciardo and Bottas like the new rules. F1 is always changing the regulations to keep evolving. The new 2015 nose designs look a whole lot better. At least they got rid of those dick-noses from last year. Those never should have been allowed in the first place. I got used to the platypus/step-noses at least. There's talks about tweaking the rules for more power like relaxing the fuel flow limit and bumping up the power units to 1000 total horsepower.
>>12126058
>not champion
>champion
That's the difference.
>>12126063
Same situation.
Different result.
>>12123621
maybe this?
For Audio:
http://a.pomf.se/avdnio.webm
So I just found out that there are AC mods for the new V6 turbo F1 cars. I guess that's why there's no "official" F1 racing sim. There's a mod for everything so you don't need one. And there's one for the Audi R8 LMS GT3, no need to wait for the dream pack 2015 update.
No one tells me anything. You guys are secretly playing all the cool games while you laugh at me for playing Codemasters. I hope they didn't simulate the shittyness of the F14T.
>>12079404
>Formula E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIcNrd6_6o
>>12115237
At least Monza kept the old banking as a historical landmark monument that you can still visit. They completely destroyed the old Hockenheim forests and removed the old track when Tilke redesigned it. So you can't even use the old Hockenheim track for historic racing events.
Speaking about old tracks, any Eurofags ever been to Nurburgring?
One of my life goals is to complete at least a lap there.
>>12122266
>>12126036
Part of the problem is that the manufacturers have too much of a say now. In the 80s and 90s you had independent teams and it was basically the equivalent of a bunch of car modding freaks trying to squeeze out as much speed as possible, even if the designs were not apt for mass production (that's what le mans and DTM was traditionally for).
Even with Red Bull nowadays the car/motor manufacturer's are the ones basically deciding what to include in the championship.
>>12120495
>>12117583
Don't get me wrong, safety is important and I do not wish F1 to return to the days where you'd have about one to two dead drivers a year (or any a year) and some changes like actually enforcing speed limits even if it's just a yellow flag are actually something I think makes the sport better but I have seen several penalties being thrown out for "reckless driving" for what would have regular overtake attempts in other eras.
It doesn't help that a lot of circuits are not designed for allowing overtakes with the current cars as they were designed ages ago (and sometimes with bike races in mind instead of having overly long cars with plane engines).
>>12126206
Codemaster's games were great but the FIA sucks dicks when it comes to deciding who gets and who doesn't get to do the official games.
>>12132337
>Speaking about old tracks, any Eurofags ever been to Nurburgring?
It's great mate. I also have been to Montmeló (Barcelona Grand Prix), though IIRC you cannot do laps there anymore.
Isn't Nurbugring the oldest Grand Prix track still being used in the championship?
>>12135421
>Isn't Nurbugring the oldest Grand Prix track still being used in the championship?
Yeah, but only the new circuit. The Nordschleife section was used in F1 until Lauda's crash IIRC (which was actually the reason they built the new circuit). The oldest is probably Monza (Interlagos would count but the whole thing was revamped in the late 70's. Older track was awesome by the looks of it)
Even then, dunno if I'd manage to get a good run there. Watching the "Nurburgring bloopers" videos is lotsa fun but kinda terrifying too.
>>12102511
I always wanted to try one of those F1 management games and try not to run out of funding. It feels weird not doing the driving.
>>12138425
Microrprose Grand Prix Manager series is my personal favorite.
http://www.autogp.net/fotogallery.asp?g=92
This is why you need to make it to F1.
>>12073993
Since when are cars /m/?
Does this mean I can talk about Ika Musume on /m/ if I make references to her car?
>>12143840
/m/ for is fictional mechanism mister no-fun, it can be future-bike, future-car, future-tank, spaceship or any other mechanism born from science and technology, Including bio-engineering.
Cyber Formula car have AI and can transform, obviously /m/.
Have your Ika Musume use SFish transportation and you might not look like a complete moron here.
>>12143840
Ika Musume has a car?
sidehacking was in the AMG movie
It's like the Getter pilots.
But real.
Franck Montagny didn't text me back yet.
Check out this old racing arcade game called Vertexer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV9wLdCl5ag
>>12135416
Yeah Red Bull are basically the official Renault manufacturers' team now and get all the attention and effort of RenaultSport put towards the RBR team. The Lotus-Renault team that goes way back to being Benetton is switching to Mercedes units next year. It's kinda sad that partnership ended. That's how desperate they are for the best equipment, and they feel like they don't stand a chance without a Mercedes engine.
Marussia and Caterham are still trying to make a comeback for 2015 but there's no point anymore. They are so behind on development that they would be a mobile chicane. Too slow and become a safety hazard. They got permission to use their 2014 car to save them the hassle of building a new one. But it was already an obsolete piece of shit when it was new. It would be worse or just as bad as the situation Kaga faced with the Aoi team in SIN. But this time there's Negumo Char with a totally advanced super-secret prototype to save the day.
There's that new American HAAS team coming in 2016. But the rumor is that they are going to be Ferrari's junior bitch team like Toro Rosso & Red Bull. Toro Rosso can never win the championship and be a top team because the 'main' team Red Bull won't allow it. You gotta donate to the Alexander Rossi crowdfunding kickstarter campaign to help get an American driver in F1.
>>12154498
is that maneuver ever gonna be real?
>>12135416
>>12122266
Everyone saw how Lewis left McLaren for Mercedes and is now on the best team. So everyone wants to be like Lewis. That decision was shocking at that time. It's like he saw ahead of time the downfall of McLaren and Mercedes getting better.
The rumors back when Mercedes took over for Ross Brawn is that they were always planning ahead for the future regulation changes and weren't really focused on the short-term V8-era car. But that wasn't completely true because they became a strong team and won races as soon as Hamilton joined. So now Vettel used the new era regulations as his chance to ditch Red Bull for Ferrari and Alonso is taking a risk going to the new unknown Honda-McLaren hoping they become a good team right away like when Lewis switched.
>>12154756
F1 is always dramatically changing the rules especially to break up a dominant team. They targeted Schumi with the no-tire-changes rule in '05. You had the tire-war back then between Bridgestone and Michelin, and the Ferrari-Bridgestone partnership became too strong. In '09/10 it was about trying to even the playing field between teams and balance the competition by introducing new aero rules to help increase overtaking, no-refueling, the reliability rules of 8 engines per season. Then Red Bull dominated those set of rules so these new 2014 regulations targeted Vettel. Vettel liked a good rear diffuser with lots of rear downforce and the new aero package limits that. Also the exhaust now is pointed upwards so you can't use exhaust gas to effect the airflow to generate downforce on the back of the car. A truly good pilot can adapt, instead he spent the whole season complaining about the new rules. And his teammate destroyed him. I never paid attention to Ricciardo before on Toro Rosso. and now he's a superstar. Is Kyvat really going to be that good too?
That's what the FIA does. They take everything you like, ban it, and then do the opposite. Forcing you to adapt.
Before that in the 90s it was Williams being targeted with the ban on all the electronic technology aids, like active suspension, ABS, TCS. Williams around that time was the best team to be on. But everything that made them good got banned. Those rule changes is what sort of screwed over Senna, because he assumed he was walking into the best car on the grid, but instead had to do a lot of developmental work with the engineers. Williams rebounded from the ban and won in '96, '97.
That's why Alonso is taking a risk by going to McLaren with the new Honda engine. If he gets his third world championship and ties Senna while driving in a Honda-McLaren then it would be more fitting. But the safer bet is to stay with Ferrari because they've already had a year to figure out everything that is wrong with the overall package and start making changes. At Honda-McLaren now Alonso has to start from scratch again testing, R&D, and diagnosing all the technical problems and giving feedback to the engineers.
That's part of the instincts of being a Formula 1 driver. To be on the right team at the right time, so you are in the best environment/situation for success. To be able to predict which team is going to be good in the future. There's talented drivers that never get a proper chance to showcase their skills because of the logistics of trying to get on a good team.
Alonso won the same amount of championships at Ferrari as Jean Alesi : 0. In Alonso's case it's the team that failed the driver.
>>12154514
>>12150753
Soon. Like maybe sometime around after 2017.
>Explaining the thinking behind the design, Ferrari said in a statement on their website: "Would it be possible to come up with an F1 car which not only is technologically advanced, but also captivating to the eye and aggressive-looking? And could this be made without having to overturn the current technical rules?
>"At Ferrari, we believe so. Let us introduce you to the ‘concept design’ that was conceived by our design studio (Centro Stile Ferrari) together with the Scuderia’s aero department. Minimal changes give the car a look that is way different from what have been familiar with so far. Our challenge was to create something that was – to put it short – better looking."
>Speaking last month, new Ferrari team boss Maurizio Arrivabene called on F1 to dramatically improve both the look and sound of its product.
"By 2017, I would like to see cars that win over the fans, with cars that they can get closer to and that are aesthetically more appealing, maybe even producing a noise that gets your hair standing on end, like that produced by a heavy metal band," he said.
>>12154766
>Vettel
>>12154816
>in the future, our cars will be so fast the drivers will fuse into the fuselage
One of the best racing games for SNES.
Back when NASCAR was good and called Winston Cup. and before Tony Stewart killed a guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK1QlMddWJI
I got 40GB of F1 season reviews from the 70s-2013 and some races from 2014. I could go on forever. There's a torrent for the season reviews that you can find on all the usual torrent sites.
Sportscar GT racing keep getting bigger. The 24HR of Dubai this year had full broadcast coverage, and now it's a part of an FIA endorsed endurance series. They are going to do 24HR races in Paul Ricard and Catalyuna too. Last year you only got about 2-hours of highlights coverage. Now they are a full blown FIA endurance event.
The LiquiMoly 12HR of Bathurst was awesome this year and had more entrants with full broadcast coverage. A lot of the Blancpain guys ran in it this time.A Japanese driver for the Nismo GT Academy won, and he took the lead in the last 15 minutes of the race. It's crazy how the sport has grown so much so quickly.
That's why I like the RadioLeMans.com coverage, because they know everything about every driver and the smallest teams. They'll be like "that guy raced Ginnetta's in ADAC GT Masters or that guy used to race Gillet Vertigos, or he used to be a F3 driver and switched to GT racing"; it makes you want to watch the whole endurance race so you don't miss any of their information. The commentary makes it so much better.
Hopefully they do more SuperGT broadcasts this year. I like watching the translated closed captioned Fuji TV broadcasts too. But RadioLeMans have this "Japanese expert" that they bring on for Super GT that has all the inside info, and he made references to Pacific Rim and Transformers one time on the air. So he must be a /m/an. You gotta namedrop something mainstream so people get the reference.
I can't wait to see the new Nissan GTR LMP1 car in action. All that R&D from SuperGT went into it.
>>12154904
>screaming like a girl on the radio
that's the worst part.
>>12157925
Before Earnhardt died, and NASCAR died with him.
>>12154773
>In Alonso's case it's the team that failed the driver.
Alonso is a bit overhyped to be honest.
No offense, he's a great driver, but right now the championship is sadly exclusively decided by the best car.
If all drivers had the same (not gonna happen) it'd be probably a race between Alonso, Lewis, Button, Raikkonen, Rosberg (he did manage to keep up with Lewis for a good chunk of the championship) and maybe even Vettel (as much as I laugh at >>12154904)
Vettel gets a lot of flag (deservedly so) but he also managed to win Red Bull the first championships (even if it was at the expense of his team mate) and their first Victory in a damn Toro Rosso, I think his shitty performance last year is more of a sign of him having no idea how to drive in a V6 and basically next to no experience on race championships that aren't F1 more than anything else (Lewis, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen etc all have experience racing in other categories)
Ever wish there was a remake of F-Zero?
Well no worries, there's a Blue Falcon mod for Assetto Corsa and it works.
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/f-zero-blue-falcon.4229/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzeuOJXiQHk
I don't have the stamina for these racing games. I can stay up late all night playing SRW and Full Boost but racing games are different. I always feel tired afterwards and have to take a nap.
SIN DREI PLUS is kinda chill and you can play it on a keyboard. It seems easy at first but it gets tricky, to actually get the timing right of boosting + switching between AERO/CIRCUIT Modes
>>12161223
Alonso's reputation kind of gets enhanced, he's seen as having to drive & work twice as hard to make up for not being in the best car. That he can always get the maximum out of an under-powered car and drive it beyond it's designed limitations. So if he's on the best team then he should automatically win. But when he was on the best team in '07 with Lewis it turned out to be a disaster with the whole spying scandal thing. And then later at Singapore with Renault and Piquet Jr. was the whole "crash-gate" scandal. Flavio Briatore got a lifetime ban for that, and he's the one that helped bring Alonso into the sport. So he's made some bad decisions but he still should have won with Ferrari. Ferrari have all the resources to be successful, all the facilities, they get prize money just for showing up and being Ferrari. In 2010 even if it was poor pit strategy, he couldn't overtake Petrov and lost by one point. You can tell how badly Alonso wants that third championship. He feels like he should have won 3 championships already, if he doesn't get the third he might feel like his whole career was a failure even though that's kinda harsh.
This year Lewis showed that he is the best driver and also in the best car. He was the best at managing his fuel and tires. Which was unexpected because compared to Nico, Lewis was perceived to be the aggressive hot-blooded driver, and Nico is more like the smoother conservative cold-blooded driver. So I don't think anyone expected Lewis to adapt his driving style to the new rules so well.
I think the main thing that the fans want for 2015 is just to see the other teams be competitive. It'll never be exactly even but you don't want to see one team dominate too easily. Even with Red Bull and Vettel's streak at the end of '13, you still felt like the other teams stood a chance of winning the race. In '14 even if Lewis starts in the back of field he can cruise to a podium passing the whole field because the W06 Hybrid is too good.
>>12171094
Alonso is the kind of driver that practically demands that the team hire a lesser #2 so that he can get the team to rally behind him. It's just how he's wired mentally; The same could be said about Vettel. Same with Schumacher even. To me, the biggest reason why he had such a rough time at McLaren back in '07 was that he signed to drive for a team that has pretty conservative, business meetings and sponsor commitments first-attitude that clashed with his own way of going racing (Same reason why Lewis Hamilton left later) AND was basically centered around Hamilton (He had been a McLaren-Supported drive since, shit, 10 Years old?) even though he was a rookie. After that, there was the "Crashgate" scandal that he had no knowledge of (It was between Flavio Briatore, Nelson Piquet Jr. & Pat Symmonds) and struggled when ran for Ferrari. At the same time, Alonso also ended up doing a lot to drive home the fact that he could very well be the best driver of the current generation by coming close to winning the WDC twice in absolute dogs of cars (2010 & 2012).
As for Lewis, last year's championship was exactly what he needed to keep his career alive, because he's more of the type that needs a stable personal life to help him focus on the job at hand IMHO (And having an on-again, off-again girlfriend, falling out of favor with his father and then making up with between 2009-2013 isn't exactly "Settled").
gAs for 2015, it's a bit too early to guess how the season could go. Sure, Ferrari have set great times in testing, but Mercedes have consistently ran fast on last year's most-used "Prime" Tire compound, which could showcase just how fast their cars could be during racing conditions.I'm more worried about the rumors of Alonso having been electrocuted while testing in Spain, leading to his accident a few days ago as well as his hospital stay though.
Also, who's the manliest Cyber Formula Driver, and why is itPic Related?
>>12171895
>spoiler
Thought that was /sp/ bullshit. Is there any truth to this rumour?
>>12173582Some...Basically, McLaren are doing everything they can to deny anything's wrong with Fernando aside from giving him "Time to rest" and they won't release the hard data of the crash that was recovered from the wrecked chassis's "Black Box". So, while it's outlandish to think it might have happened... It could've really happened, because the current "He got a concussion" explanation doesn't match the light impact damage of the car or the video the FIA secured of the accident.Another rumor is that he has health problems, maybe something similar to the late, great rally ace Richard Burns... Which, if true, would be unbelievably sad.
>>12171895
>As for Lewis, last year's championship was exactly what he needed to keep his career alive, because he's more of the type that needs a stable personal life to help him focus on the job at hand IMHO (And having an on-again, off-again girlfriend, falling out of favor with his father and then making up with between 2009-2013 isn't exactly "Settled").
According to German media it was Nicky Lauda who both recruited him and helped him get his act together in that regard telling him "kid, you have an entire life and career awaiting you, don't throw it away for a bunch of hookers and overhyped party nights"
>>12171895
>>12174146
I'm rooting for Honda and Japan's big comeback but off season testing is not going well. It's worst case scenario. They've done the least amount of laps out of all the teams. They can't even get enough track time and there's only one more test session left before the season starts.
The race is never finished.
Find your race.
>there will never be a sequel to Goddamn or Yoroshiku Mechadock
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/glickenhaus-p4-5-sugo-gp.5175/
