>>14338358
AD 2301 Republic of Krugis civil war
AD 2307 Gundam 00 ep 1
AD 2314 ELS War
AD 2364 End of Awakening of the Trailblazer, the reverse engineering of ELS mobile suit Turn X, and the

creation of Turn A (Turn A Gundam), 7th Space War (After War Gundam X)
AD 2379 New United Nations Earth founded AW 0015
AD 2388 D.O.M.E. Rebuilt AW 0024
AD 2390 After Colony 1
AD 2584 Gundam Wing ep 1
AD 2571 Permanent colony on Mars established
AD 2615 End of Frozen Teardrop
AD 2616 Calamity War
AD 2618 Post Disaster 001
AD 2940 IRON-BLOODED ORPHANS, Future Century 1
AD 2941 Earth Chaos War
AD 2943 End of Earth Chaos War
AD 2947 1st Gundam Fight
AD 3003 14th Gundam Fight
AD 3876 Moonlight Butterfly, Regild Century 1, UC/CC 1831
AD 4390 Turn A Gundam
AD 4890 G Reco
AD 5000 Gundam EXA

Why do people act like beam sabres are a new thing in Gundam 00 if it comes after Seed?

Surely it'd make more sense to imagine the moonlight butterfly keeps wiping out technology at the end of every series, returning civilisation to caveman times?

>>14338399
overuse of beam tech from SEED causes a massive natural beam interference field to form probably during the 3rd Solar War that will take a long time to dissipate and i-fields don't affect GN particles

I thought about placing SEED after AW Gundam X in the timeline but that would also put it after the ELS war which conflicts with the research of the alien fossils in SEED.

Soon after G Savior seems like an alright place for it with the restructuring of nations after the dissolution of the earth federation. Also SEED tech seems like it has late UC capability with the visual aesthetics of early UC.

>>14338358
UC
Moonlight butterfly
G Gundam events
Moonlight butterfly
Wing Gundam events
Moonlight butterfly
Gundam X events
Moonlight butterfly
so and so forth
Turn A

>>14338595
then place x before seed and closer to UC,the tech levels of X are closer to UC anyway

What you've posted is far too compressed and simplistic for how it could/would work. I made an attempt some time ago that went something like this...

Hypothetical Dark History Order

AD
01-2045+

Construction of the first Space colony is said to begin in 2045 AD. Once these early colonies are completed, much of the population is forcibly migrated to them, and the earth federation is formed. The beginning of this migration and the completion of these first colonies is UC 0001.

UC
Origin to G-Saviour
0001-0224+

The Zeon, Cosmo Babylon, Jupiter, Zanscare, and Side 8 uprisings all occur. Technology continues to rapidly advance, the wars continue. The Federation is destroyed and reformed numerous times during these years. Earth's resources diminish further under this pressure.

AW
Gundam X to UTM
0001-0024

The Newtype worshiping spacenoids of this era decide to utterly wipe out their opposition. A massive colony drop commences. Much of the population is destroyed. Most colonies destroyed. Earth's ecosystem is devastated and will take over a millennium to recover. Newtypes are no longer hailed as a special race thanks to DOME’s interventions. Tech development still continues, leading to tech which would later be the basis for the G-types. The environmental collapse eventually leads to SU-Cordism and the construction of the space elevators. Ring of Gundam occurs somewhere in this era between UC and RG, after most colonies have long since vanished. Some of the few surviving colonies leave for interstellar space.

RG
G-Reco
0001-1014+

SU-Cordism thrives and changes the earth's entire society. Towasanga is made up of colonies which survive around the moon in the former Side 3. The Venusians take the advanced technology of past eras and create the Hermes foundation, preserving but controlling the tech as part of SU-Cordism. The earth centers its industry around the south American space elevator, as it is one of earth’s few remaining regions where nature still thrives. This creates the capital territory. Ameria and Gondwan (Europe) eventually go to war. In the end, after a short series of skirmishes caused by the Megafauna, the Towasangans, Venusians, and Earth nations each reach a balanced agreement for tech distribution, and society again thrives. The Venusians and Towasangans take their new tech and leave the solar system entirely, becoming a major contributor to what will later be an intergalactic society. It could be said that their advanced tech is a key piece of what will one day become the devastating interplanetary warfare capable “Turn” units, but that tech will remain in deep space for several millennia as it is further refined.

“seireki” (AD) 2307-2364+
Gundam 00 + Trailblazer

With Seireki literally meaning western calender, the use of AD could be interpreted in many different ways. Regardless, at least over 1000 years after G-Reco, the space elevators have advanced even further and been built elsewhere into an advanced solar energy system. Society is now entirely earth centric, with most of the previous colonists having been long forgotten, and space society only at a rudimentary level. MS tech is revived on Earth by Aeolia, who also hypothesizes that life exists beyond the solar system, and predicts a new kind of evolution based “innovation” for mankind through a type of particle science he discovers. A series of wars occur on earth, and the predicted innovation does indeed begin to occur once the particles are spread throughout the earth sphere. However, an invasion from an interstellar silicon based life-form (The ELS) greatly changes the status of society. In the end, those who evolve through innovation leave for deep space, and those remaining on earth again begin to colonize the earth sphere.

AG 0101-0201+
Gundam AGE

The remaining population on earth, after the innovators and ELS leave, thrives and grows, to the point of overpopulation. It is sometime in this era (said to be hundreds of years before the show) that the Colony Nation Wars occur. One possibility is that the space elevators are destroyed in this era. The earth sphere is thrown into turmoil, and advance MS tech based on past eras dominates the battlefield. As a result, the Mars Birthday plan is put in place as a means to try and expand to another world within the solar system. Unfortunately, solar radiation is affected by the magnetic field on mars and spreads the deadly mars rays to these new colonists, causing much of their population to become ill. The Federation covers up the incident and abandons the Mars colonists. The end of the colony wars leads to the silver Chalice treaty, and most advanced MS war tech is destroyed and knowledge of it stored within the EXA-DB database. This database is then launched out to parts unknown. Eventually, the mars colonists discover it and begin rebuilding their nation to become the Vagans. The Federation (which is an evolution of the one we last saw in 00, given the similar uniforms) retains basic MS tech. The Vagans invade for revenge and to recapture their home-world. The war lasts nearly 70 years. Finally, members of the Asuno family use the AGE system to design tech which can stop the mars rays and allow colonists to live safely in that region(See: The Everse system). Humanity is once again at peace, and the EXA-DB remains as an archive of past great technology. In this era of peace, the colonists will again have another excursion into deep interstellar space. Their technology again leaves with them.

CE 0001-0075+
Gundam SEED + Destiny + Astray

Looking to artificially induce mankind's evolution, a scientist creates George Glenn, the first coordinator. Glenn heads for Jupiter, and discovers a plaque containing a space whale fossil, and the earth sphere (who has long since forgotten about the ELS) panics over the realization that non-human life exists beyond Sol. Coordinators now become a new trend, and are created as a new race. Racial tension erupts and they are eventually driven off Earth into the PLANTS by natural humans jealous of their advanced genetic abilities. 4+ years of very turbulent wars break out, almost completely destroying the Alliance government, but eventually reaching a point of stability. The Coordinators then use their advanced skills to join the ranks of many past generations who migrate out beyond the solar system, eventually joining with the Venusians, Innovators, Vagans, and other UC era Newtypes. Galactic society now begins to spread, well beyond earth's view. We see early signs of this era’s migration in the Astray manga.

FC 0001-0060+
G Gundam

MS technology, and gundams survive and continue to advance until the nations of the earth use nanotechnology to build their own high-tech space islands and send their richest populations to live there, leaving the rest on earth struggling and impoverished. As an alternative to war, the Gundam fight tournament is created, with the nation who wins becoming the ruler of earth for that 4 year period. The monstrous DG cells and Devil Gundam are created by a Neo Japan scientist as one way to rehabilitate the earth's environment, but the program evolves far faster than anticipated, eventually disrupting the 13th Gundam fight and nearly wiping out the human race. Luckily this crisis is averted and the Devil Gundam is stopped. One rumor suggests that surviving DG cells spawned an even more deadly incarnation known as the Devil Gundam Junior in the Guyana Highlands, but this has yet to be confirmed.

Unknown Era- Pre CC

At some point following this, contact between the expanding intergalactic society and the earth are finally established. An advanced network for travel and communications are formed, and society thrives like never before seen. DG cells survive and a branch of eco-terrorists at one point attempt to use them to wipe out humanity, but they fail. This technology is then shared beyond the earth sphere, uniting with the tech of past eras to form what will eventually be the devastating Turn units, including the Turn X. An era known as Armageddon begins. Galactic society goes to war with itself for reasons unknown, on a scale like never before seen. Turn units are used to wipe out multiple planets in one go. The intergalactic network collapses and earth society is now finally isolated from the rest of the universe once more. A lone damaged Turn unit begins a journey drifting towards the outer solar system.

Eventually, long after this war, this unit is discovered by the humans of the Sol system. They panic when they discover that those in deep space created a unit so devastating that it can wipe out entire planets. Armageddon continues; entering a new stage as mankind shifts its war back to the earth sphere. The Turn unit is repaired and labeled the Turn X. The Turn A is reverse engineered from it. Two factions go to war with each other in on earth. One faction believes the entirety of modern civilization needs to be completely reset. They possess the Turn A. The other faction believes technology can solve everyone’s problems, and possess the Turn X. The two factions hold their final war, with the A scarring the X and defeating it in battle. The remaining colonists migrate to the moon, and take any remnants of society and technology with them, sheltering themselves from the coming reset. The Earth's civilization gets wiped out in the moonlight butterfly, with the nanites covering nearly the entire earth's surface. Before the destruction takes place, it is agreed that basic technology from the earliest eras of the UC will be preserved within the Mountain Cycle on earth so that society can again rediscover it. Replicas of many early low-tech Mobile weapons and vehicles are built and preserved intentionally within the earth's surface.

>>14338358
>AD 2198 End of Universal Century 0153 (Victory)
Please don't shitpost.

CC 0001-2345+
Turn A Gundam

Fortunately, a percentage of the population on earth survives the reset. They rebuild over the next few millennia until North America and Europe now have a Victorian style society. The nanites spread throughout earth are also used to help recover nature, fulfilling the original purpose of the DG cells. The people of earth are eventually able to use these nanites as a no-emissions fuel source for planes, cars, and airships, giving them a near limitless fuel supply. The moonrace uses cryo-stasis to preserve their population throughout this era. They have also retained memories of past eras, likely thanks to info retrieved in various data-bases like the EXA-DB, the Hermes foundation, and other such ancient archives. This forms the history databank in the Winter Palace, with the entirety of past history now being remembered as the “Dark History”, starting in the UC around 10,000 years before this. The Ghingnham, Soriel, and Maintainer lineages also gain power in this society, forming a ruling triumvirate. Once it is confirmed that the earth has recovered, the moonrace Soriel family creates the Earth Reclamation Plan, hoping to one day migrate their stifled population to a less populated but desirable region of earth. By CC 2343, they send advance scouts to the planet to check the condition of the surface. 2 years later, the mysterious Turn A Gundam is accidentally uncovered in a mountain near the town known as Vicinity.

And the rest is history...

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Shut up retard.

>being wrong in nearly every conceivable manner.

Kill la kill you are self.

>>14338678
G Reco is 500 years after turn A though
https://nekketsunikki.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/tomino-said-g-reco-takes-place-around-500-years-after-turn-a/

thats why I think Regild Century 1 was when the moonlight butterfly was used

>>14338669
>>14338678
>>14338683
>>14338688
>>14338698
>>14338701
>>14338704
>>14338722
Some odd stuff here and there, but still a fun read. Nice job, anon.

>>14338358
>ITT: autism
no really, to think someone spent their time to put together this retarded timeline, and someone wrote all of this fanfiction shit to support a forced meme-tier concept because they "made an attempt some time ago".

I don't know if Tomino would be upset or laugh his ass off knowing such retards took an idea of his to the fucking extreme and can't think otherwise.

That's not how the Black History works. It's not all one timeline. It's a continuation of the Universal Century timeline, but events and MS from parallel timelines (AW, FC, AC, CE) leak in

>>14338838
>That's not how the Black History works.
Source?

>>14338819
THIS

>>14338838
This.

OP is a huge faggot.

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>>14338358
This is not how it works mate.

>>14338819
that graphic did not come from an official source, it was from a magazine

the more recent MG Turn X manual completely contradicts that graphic and says its one linear timeline.

>>14338853
>This was made before that was announced, and DESU, I'm still not sure it's 100% true
Then what fucking evidence do you have to dispute the fucking horse's mouth?

None!

>>14338874
HAHAHAH

That was fast.


You got rused. Open the image.

>>14338882
oh kek

black history indeed

This was made before that was announced, and I'm still not sure it's 100% true. Source material from the show and the nature of the tech could really go 50/50 either way, but seems to tie closer to UC.

Having said that, remove G-Reco from the occasion and the rest of the timeline is the same.

>>14338838

False. That timeline was made by a SRW source and is contradicted by more recent materials like the Turn X manual. Info like the idea of humanity forming an intergalactic society, the terrorist DG cell attack, the history of the Turn X, humanity forgetting about their intergalactic brethren and fearing them when they find the X, and real reason behind the butterflying all come from various sources (novel info, manuals) I've collected over the past 10 years. I've tried to insert as few assumptions as possible, so it's not just random wacky fanfic.

You know, even though the official statement is converging timelines I still like to read threads where people just go "what if?" and toy around with the idea that the eras are connected.

But maybe it's because I'm a sucker for crossovers.

UC > AW > AC

The twin buster rifle was an attempt to miniaturize the Satellite Canon and Wing is basically X (well other way around on the design side)

>>14338876

Since I had to repost my post due to some bizarre censoring...

Early UC tech is all seen, yet no CC era tech is mentioned outside of a possible Moonlight Butterflying from the G-Lucifer.

Early source material claimed it as a prequel. Tomino himself said G Reco was the future of a UC period that came after devastating wars which led to mass starvation. While this COULD be post Butterflying, it was never even hinted as such until after the show ended.

The Capital Tower exists in the same spot a space elevator was later said to be destroyed in during Turn-A's time. Early source-books claimed there may be a connection.

In the same interview were Tomino said this, the Sunrise head himself said he assumed it was the other way around and marketed material to state such. No official material has come out since that confirms the 500 years post TUrn A date, DESU.

Having 2 overlapping timelines, CC and RG, seems kind of odd. Not impossible, but just odd. What is the signifigance of CC 1831 if that is supposed to correlate to RG 0001?

>>14338923
>he assumed
Incorrectly, it seems

>>14338923
i assumed the Correct Century was a redesignation of UC that the moonrace used while those out of contact with the moonrace used RG with the moonlight butterfly incident as a starting point

>>14338928

Possibly.

More evidence that logically puts this post UC, Pre CC.

Towasanga has Island 3 colonies behind the moon around Side 3's area. Only a few remain, none were seen in UC. Their mono-eyed suits closely resemble the style of Zanscare designs, yet another UC throwback.

No other timeline gets tech throwbacks like in Turn A. No Shining Finger, no Leos, no Mobile Dolls, no Satellite cannon remains, nothing. Just UC era.

The UC era is the only one discussed while the CC era is never talked about at all.

The Moonrace is never mentioned.

There IS, however, evidence which does hint at post TUrn A. Much less of it, but it does exist.

Tomino's batshit insane word, which to me sounds much more like a retcon.

Ameria as a nation exists, which is odd considering it would not be called such in other timelines.

In the early episodes on earth, people who wear victorian style clothing can still be seen... showing that even centuries later, some people choose to still live that way as seen in CC.

Lucifer's butterfly, and even name, could be a direct homage/descendant to the white devil that was Turn A.

Those are the big ones. I still think the pre-CC evidence far outweighs the post. No one even considered the idea until Tomino opened his yap.

>>14338933
also because the moonrace were mentioned to have lived on the moon for 2000 years I placed After Colony 1 as 2000 years before Turn A. Because the moon settlement in Wing would probably be the first permanent Moon colony established after the events of AW Gundam X

An interesting thing is that extra material indicates that there are indeed colonies present in 00 but you barely see them because the conflict is focused on earth's surface

>>14338954

No. CC 0001 is likely the end of the previous era, not something that ties into the old shows. Even if you drop the other timelines from the equation, the history behind Turn A as a show is roughly set...

Pre-CC...

After UC, Macross style civilization, creation of Turn units, macross style civilization disappears and is forgotten, Turn grunt rediscovered and becomes X. A reverse engineered from it. War breaks out. Butterflying, CC begins. Moonrace as they are seen begins.

for fuck's sake people, this isn't like the hollywood superhero movies where they give hints of THESE GUYS GONNA SHOW UP NEXT TIME. Individual works of the gundam are not in the same universe unless stated explicitly.

>>14338993
>unless stated explicitly.
>muh MG manual

Yeah, fuck right on out of here kid. You're out of your depth.

>>14338954
also Corin Nander is known to have lived in After Colony era, and Frozen Teardrop shows that they have developed cryosleep tech in AC so the moonrace connection to the AC civilization is quite strong

>>14338993
> ITT :: MUH HEADCANON IZ BETAR THAN YALL

>>14338669
UC and then Gundam X

We know X is after the 7th Space War.
What was Space war 1 to 6?

>>14339003
explain to me why there is Dead Amuro and Living Amuro at the end of One Year War.

>>14339021
Spae War = SW

>SW 1
OYW
>SW 2
Gryps
>SW 3
Axis
>SW 4
Neo-Zeon
>SW 5
Zanscare
>SW 6
Gaia Gear conflict
>SW 7
Jamil vs. Lancerow: The Droppenning

>>14339021

Zeon and Gryps War, Cosmo Babylon, Jupiter, Zanscare, Gaia incident.

6 major conflicts... roughly. Add Neo Zeon if you don't count Side 8/CONSENT from G-Saviour.

>>14339003
> In the end, it may be that people only believe what they want to believe.

This one is written inside MG manual tho.

>>14339039
Scratch Axis and go with >>14339044 Cosmo Babylonia. Much better fit.

I forgot about it just like Banrise.

>>14339021
1: One Year War
2: Gryps War
3: First Neo Zeon War
4: Second Neo Zeon War
5: Cosmo Babylon Wars

>>14339049
>it may be that people only believe what they want to believe.
This is a built in acknowledgement that people will continue to hold dear their ignorance in the face of irrefutable evidence.

It's calling the non-believers stupid.

>>14339057
That is what you want to believe :^)

>>14339057
>It's calling the non-believers stupid.
>non-believer
whoa we /x/ now?
that explains the obsession over non-existant matters.

>>14338358
>>14338361

Putting G Gundam, Wing and 00 in these timelines just doesn't work. Can't we just call them alternate timelines?

>>14339039
>>14339044
>>14339054
So

>SW 1
One Year War
>SW 2
Gryps War
>SW 3
First Neo-Zeon War
>SW 4
Second Neo Zeon War
>SW 5
Cosmo Babylon War
>SW 6
Zanscare War
>SW 7
OVA never

Only reason I left off the Gaia Gear thing is cause Tomino sez (which seems to be the name of the game for these threads) it's non-canon.

>>14339107
Wing definitely works.

G is shaky.

00 either has to come a long time before UC or it doesn't. The tech philosophy is just too different compared to any other era, except maybe AGE, although same could be said for G and it'd still be pretty hard to fit.

The ELS did it.

We are all living inside a sentient cosmic VEDA Terminal.

Kamille is Loran.

PUru is PuLL.

The Devil is God is Love

Aaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrhaaaaaaaagh

>>14339117
the way some of the colonies and tech in G is I think G could work as some post 00 ELS war technology

nanomachines son

>>14339100
I am the reincarnation of a Puru ask me anything

>>14339129
Huh, I could roll with this.

The entire JUPITER FLEET is LIZARDS

>>14339139
What does [the pleasure of being cummed inside] feel like?

Axis was an inside job

marida cruz's great great great grandfather killed kennedy

space donald trump said so

WAKE UP SPACE SHEEPLE

>>14339145
what if the jupiter fleet was ELS clones the entire time

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>>14339146
melty

>>14338358
Ever since Black Lives Matter incident, i can never take the term "Black history" seriously without snickering.

Could Someone explain this.

In Gundam we have the United Nations, they existed in UC,Seed and 00.

(MSG) 1999 A.D - UN becomes the Earth Federation.

(00) - 2312 A.D - UN becomes the Earth Sphere Federation Army

(SEED) - XXX A.D to C.E. 70 - UN becomes the Earth Alliance.

Why did the Human's keep changing the name back to United Nations and 3 times during A.D?

>>14339184
united nations can be a generic entity for international politics, every time a world government dissolves back into separate nations the UN resurfaces, sometimes resurfacing with the renewed use of the AD calendar.

>>14339184

Because they did? Because history repeats itself?

If you expect this to make 100% perfect real sense, it never will. The concepts are meant to be taken in broad strokes to make a general narrative that leads to Turn A. It should've ended when SEED started, but Sunrise still kept it going with silly little hints and ideas in each new show. (Moon cities in SEED/Destiny, EXA-DB and colony history wars in AGE, Operation British crater in IBO.)

Most of us who connect the Dark History shows do it for fun, not because it makes perfect sense. Only UC-CC is known for sure, with RG being either before or after at some point.

It's much simpler than that.

UC > AW > AC > FC > CC > RC

AD, CE, and AGE are not part of the black history.

>>14339502
Why?

>>14339512
Well for starters nothing from Seed, 00, or AGE shows up in Turn A, or vice versa.

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>>14339524
>or vice versa
you don't know how hard they tried to subtly shoehorn CE into Turn A.

>>14339536
Well fuck me sideways. Then I'll have to shoehorn shoehorn CE between AC and FC.

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>>14339544
It does get silly though. I wouldn't expect the same building to be standing for thousands of years.

>>14339524
What about Unicorn? That's not in Turn A.
Yet, I'm pretty sure it's part of the Black History.

>>14339738
>What about Unicorn? That's not in Turn A.
Unicorn would come under UC though.

>>14339738
>>14339783
And Phenex is in G-Reco too which is after Turn A

>putting GRECO before Turn A

>>14339826
Can you blame them?
Not everyone heard about the interviews.

>>14339788
>Phenex in GRECO

Where?

>>14339838
>>14337581
It was from that one little short clip or something, can't remember but apparently it's "canon" for G-Reco