What is the most sadistic, brutal book that you know which is not a porno? I consider books like story of the eye, 120 days of Sodom, and hogg are pornos (for however much I respect and admire these books, I've only read a little bit of them, sufficiently so to feel that I know that I can say that).
Not Wanted on the Voyage by Timothy Findley, or some Kathy Acker.
Blood Meme by Corcncob McCrusty
"Not a porno" is arguable in any case.
What is pornography?
A particularly conservative speaker might say anything containing any degree of nudity for titilation; but in that case most everything nowadays is pornography.
Steps by Kosinski. I haven't read the Painted Bird though.
>>8255442
Fuck conservatives. Also, what I mean is, books that are just porn and hardly any story.
>>8255465
Ech, thing is, a lot of the books in the category you seek are basically indistinguishable FROM pornography.
And there isn't such a hard and fast line between eroticism and plot; what if the plot revolves around eroticism?
Then it is of course "pornographical" without solely being "pornography".
The naked Lunch is a bit of a humdinger; but it's absurdism is underscored by constant sodomy and drug abuse, either for it's own sake, or as some sort of bizarre metaphor; is it pornography or not?
I say it doesn't really matter at all.
>>8255487
Yeah man, it's pretty easy if you don't get erudite and pedantic about it. Humans have pattern solving ability, you can tell me whether you think a book is more porn than plot. You're not a computer. Work bich.
>>8255404
Am I going jail if I save this on my cumpooter?
>>8255079
Certain sections of Les Chants de Maldoror are pretty sadistic, if you're into poetry. It's originally in French though, obv. If I remember correctly, he tortures a little boy, rapes and murders a little girl with his bulldog, fucks a shark... It's pretty good, wish I could have read it in the original language.
No captcha bitches!
Silence by Endo
my diary really
>>8255404
I now feel empty on the inside, this is horrible
I'm not surprised, but it still is quite despicable
>>8256643
Same, anon. What's the name of that poor Greek faggot? The guy who couldn't reach the food or water? It's like that, isn't it?
>>8255404
Source? This is surprisingly well written.
>>8256648
>What's the name of that poor Greek faggot?
Tantalus
>>8255404
I am unable to figure out the purpose of Sotos's writing. My first encounter with him was an interview in which he talked about women being worthless for anything other than his pleasure. Other than that I've just read his excerpts about child torture and pornography. Just seems like pointless brutality.
>>8256665
That is embarrassingly easy to remember.
>>8256666
From the master of kino himself.
>https://youtu.be/fmkXc6UB-A0
>>8255452
Not particularly shocking in this day and age. I imagine it was an amusing troll upon Polish WW2 survivors from a peasant background however.
>>8256666
Imagining sick shit and writing it is easy for some people (so is filming it). So idiots who have a way with words but no actual artistic talent, and whose minds are more unclean than a clogged Silent Hill toilet naturally write that kind of thing. There is no point or purpose other than self-satisfaction, and there would be no more output if there was no audience as well.
>>8257017
1. that is a purpose, and a valid one
2. however, that is often not the actual purpose
>>8256661
peter sotos
>>8255497
>it's pretty easy if you don't get erudite and pedantic
this is blatant philistinism and you sound like a prude
>>8256666
oh look it's another, "i don't pay attention to the news because it's all so negative"
>>8257017
So, you're against real crime lit? The excerpt>>8255404
names the killer as Ian Brady. He's an irl child killer. Yes, Sotos focuses on violent / sexual crimes against children.
I guess we should just forget about all the sad things that have ever happened.
<<<hug>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q92QibNpb0A
>>8255465
fuck off nigger loving sjw.
>>8258410
You sound like an asshole. I'm not a prude if I want a story that's something else besides every single page being people fucking. If I want that then I'll watch porno or something. You think I'm a prude? Dude, last night I was watching this porno video which took me like an hour of digging to find, of this Taiwanese mtf looking person, really petite and cute, took a shit in their hand and was licking it. That shit turns me on, you know what I mean? Can't say for sure if they were trans or just a really feminine guy, but I'm gonna go with trans, or as the Taiwanese sort of politically incorrectly call them "ladyboys".
>>8258450
I'm an asshole but you're still a philistine
Read a book nigger
>>8258411
>Like, you know... there's a lot of evil in this world... in which I find pleasure... he-he... you might say that I'm evil... and self-destructive... unfit for the genepool... ALL of which I can say with great confidence... that I AM... I am a self-diagnosed sociopath with anti-social tendencies and, should I say, with a taste for suffering... he-he... you weak normies don't know anything of life... since you don't know the pleasures of pain... happiness is really unhappiness and normalness is really unnormalness... my liberty to project my suffering to others will prevail!...
nOw ThAt'S wHaT i CaLl EdGy
t. other
>>8259030
>finding pleasure
Good luck.
>>8259030
>psychology and psychiatry should be destroyed
>>8258411
>oh look it's another, "i don't pay attention to the news because it's all so negative"
you're actually retarded, huh?
>>8259091
There's a predestined order to the world.
We can't stop these things from happening, so immersing ourselves in the ugly details is pointless.
