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>Fantasy
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>Sci-Fi
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Anybody read The Paper Menagerie by Ken Liu? I like it so far. Will probably pick up his novel.
>consultcucks
>Book is labeled as sci fi
>It's science fantasy
>"I want to write sci-fi but barely know shit about science"
>>8170559
>submitting to arbitrary damnation
We all know the real cucks are. I'll be busy enjoying my skin spy harem. Praise the no-god
>these kitschy images
Does A Song of Ice and Fire get better after A Game of Thrones? I was left disappointed by the book because it isn't much better than the show despite having a window into what people are thinking or feeling as things happen.
Picked up Hyperion and God Emperor of Dune yesterday. So far, Hyperion is surprisingly eloquent and I'm expecting Dune 4: Electric Boogaloo to be like chugging sand.
>>8170561
>"I want to write sci-fi but barely know shit about technology"
hello cyberpunk and steampunk, how are you doing this fine day?
>>8170575
Book three is the best, four is garbage and five is alright. One and two are alright, with one being better.
>>8170536
I tried reading that fantasy novel he wrote, The Grace of Kings, but didn't get past the prologue.
>>8170578
>Cyberpunk
>It tries to be bladerunner
>Steampunk
>Typical "flying ships and goggles"
I wish biopunk was popular.
>>8170591
>Typical "flying ships and goggles"
And also the characters are all Madame de Pomfre and Lord Ascot, because nothing is more "punk" than white/European nobility during the industrial revolution.
First for autism general
We all autistic.
Currently halfway through A Voyage to Arcturus
>>8170591
Wouldn't biopunk be cyborgs? Human/machine co-adaptability? Like Neal Asher books? People mod their bodies in that, same with altered carbon.
>>8171127
Is it good?
>>8171137
Yeah it's alright. The writing doesn't go too deep but it's all about different people's spirituality on another planet
First for Orphans of Chaos by John C. Wright. May the feminist drown in tears of helpless fury as we enjoy and may this book the #1 read of 2016.
Is the Book Depository the best place to buy books online?
>>8171160
>Buy books
>>8171150
>reading John C. Fedora YA to spite "feminists"
>>8171160
Never used it, Thriftbooks is good though
>>8171135
That's probably more posthuman, though there's some overlap
>>8171221
>an assassin doesn't hwve friends, only targets
>>8171150
>Urban Fantasy
>Young adult
>School setting
>ALL FOUR DIMENSIONS
>babby's first Latin
The feminists can keep the cancer.
>>8171272
What's wrong with urban fantasy or FOUR DIMENSIONS?
>>8171150
I'm a huge fan/apologist of JCW but I'd never recommend either Orphans or Everness.
>>8170885
This. I've yet to find one that's actually ABOUT anything - they all seem to emulate H.G. Wells, but miss the actual points he made in favor of superficial aesthetic stuff like "brass" or "clockwork". Even just a protagonist seeing the Empire from the outside, like Steampunk Gandhi or something, would be a nice change.
>>8171273
FIVE DIMENSIONS is where it's at desu senpai
>>8171233
>You can't pirate a book
What?
>>8171273
>Amelia can see in four dimensions. Victor can control the molecular arrangement of matter. Vanity can find secret passageways where none existed before. Colin is a psychic. Quentin is a warlock.
It's another one of 'those books'.
>>8171283
>book
>noun: book; plural noun: books; noun: the book
>1.
>a written or printed work consisting of pages glued or sewn together along one side and bound in covers.
>>8171285
You wouldn't print a book!
>>8171285
>Download book
>Print it out
>Glue or sew the pages together and bound the covers on
Your move Sanderson.
>>8171287
Printing is just as expensive as buying.
>>8171285
>Buy e-reader
>Download book
Its not that hard
>>8171284
>four dimensions
Actual 4D or just watered down American "4D = time!"
>>8171303
The original post was about 'pirating a book', not 'pirating an e-book'. Get it together man.
>>8171292
What if you copy it out by hand into one of those cloth-bound notebooks?
>>8171307
>Its [CURRENT YEAR]
>Not having accepted that print is dead
>>8171307
Are you literally retarded??
>>8171312
That is not dead which can in my shelf lie
And with DRM and flat batteries even death may die
>>8171317
>And with DRM and flat batteries even death may die
Batteries last for days.
>DRM
Why do you think I pirate books?
>>8171320
>I don't know how you guys stand reading off of a pad.
There is barely a difference between reading a book on paper or on an e-reader.
An e-reader is lighter to carry, you can instantly translate words you don't know and you don't need bookmarkers.
>>8171327
I get the benefits of an e-reader you dolt, I just mean the difference in the actual texture of the reading surface. Would you read a novel on your computer screen?
>>8171332
>Would you read a novel on your computer screen?
Obviously not I'd get a headache after an hour or so.
But that comparison is stupid because an e-reader doesn't use LCD or LED displays.
They can display text without requiring any backlight which means you won't get a headache from reading on it.
If you ever tried reading on an e-reader you would notice that there is very little difference between paper and the screen of an e-reader.
>>8171361
I have used my sister's e-reader, and sure it's not like reading on a phone, but there's definitely something missing when compared to a book. Like eating fast food instead of at a proper restaurant.
>>8171306
Her body extends into extra dimensions of space. It's very dark there because there's more volume light has to fill and it takes a long time to get anywhere. Five dimensions is even worse on that front.
Except for when the thoughts-create-reality people are observing her, then she's just a normal girl. She can override the brains of the no-free-will-deterministic-universe autist people by directly manipulating them from a dimension they can't conceive of.
>>8171332
>Would you read a novel on your computer screen?
I've read dozens. Maybe a hundred. I can lie in my hammock and turn pages with a game controller, no need to do the work of page turning.
>>8171332
o lawd is this gonna be another
>I'm going to claim that e-readers are the same as screens and no amount of evidence is going to convince me that my opinion is wrong as I continue to harp about this qualm for an entire thread
'argument' chain?
What a world.
>gotta resurrect that girl, better make a contract with a fairy for it
>let's do black magic on these Napolitans to bring them back from hell and ask about some cannons, no I don't know how to send them back
>hey, there's all these roads behind every mirror! How about I just walk down 'em and see what happens
Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell is a terrific comedy.
>>8171274
You've read Orphans?
>>8171369
No, it's identical, even more practical.
>>8170591
If you like biopunk read Finch by VanDerMeer.
It's a standalone work, very solid.
Where would I be able to post short sff stories for others to read and post commentary or criticism?
>>8171504
How about here? Come on guys, let's do something new.
>>8171524
>read anon's heartfelt yet incredibly poorly written prose full of awkward constructions that tells where it should show and vice versa, filling the threads with his poorly-planned ideas that he thought were original because he hasn't read one book the rest of us have, all reeking of his own insecure voice while leaving all characters indistinguishable and all locations bland
>offering up my work that's even worse than that
any good fantasy novels/series/whatevers where the protagonist isn't a teenager pls thanks
>>8170521
Best Conan story?
>>8171545
I think I can recall a few.
>Infinite Stratos
>Hundred
>Gakuen Toshi no Asterisk
>Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry
That should get you started.
I'm not gonna make it to TGO release... help me..
This new Great Ordeal spammer is rapidly approaching Dino Anon levels of obnoxious.
This no God shit sounds unbelievably edgy t b h
>>8171559
It's at least 2 people counting me.
>>8171547
Beyond the Black River iirc
>>8171559
I was thinking about reading Bakker. Is it just more shit with complex and daring themes like "war is bad" and "religion is bad"?
>>8171561
You are annoying, but not nearly as the little girl/braindead dino spammer.
Any books with a filthy little girl protagonist?
>>8171594
Yes, the porn I wrote about your sister
Can anyone recommend me some good biopunk? I'm curious to see what it's about.
I looked at the op lists and couldn't see any there.
>>8170561
>i care about the science more than plot, characters and prose
>>8171618
Thanks mate.
>>8171327
What e-reader would you suggest?
>>8171845
Kindle Paperwhite
>>8171400
>We need to stop the enemy reinforcements from arriving at the battle! I know, I'll teleport the whole battleground to another contintent for a time. Yes, I'll get everyone back, probably.
>>8171845
How deep is your pocket? My isn't, got a Kobo for 30$ from ebay, works perfectly
On the other note, are there any good SFF themed albums like Nightfall in Middlearth and Hardworker?
Or literature in general, Leviathan was pretty dank.
>>8171854
>Is it easy to put pirated/downloaded e-books on there?
Yes.
The newest Paperwhite is what you want because it has 300dpi and the light. The nice thing about it is that you will pretty much never have to buy a new one ever and it pays for itself after pirating a couple of books. Though that price is a bit whack, I got mine for 99€. On amazon.com it's $120 dollars too (you just missed an event where it was reduced by 20 bucks).
>>8171854
>Is it easy to put pirated/downloaded e-books on there? I heard that some are locked to the store.
If you buy a book from amazon, then it'll be locked - however there's a plugin for calibre that cac unlock them if you have the Kindle.
The Kindle itself works like a USB drive so you can put pirated books on there. Kindle's format is mobi or azw3, while most pirated books are epub. Calibre (free) can convert from epub to mobi/azw3 easily and also can be used as a library management program.
About the Paperwhite vs 4th gen - I like the light since I usually read while my wife sleeps. if you don't need the light maybe go for a 4th gen, the touchscreen of the paperwhite is a bit annoying (good for underlining, not so good for page turning, it's usually a bit awkward)
>>8171854
Kindle complicates pirating.
Don't get a kindle.
Kobo is drag and drop, like with any other usb device, no extra fuss.
I got this one from the seller, cheap, best buy this year honestly. Not so much for SFF, butconservative non fic, philosophy and theology.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kobo-Touch-eReader-905-2GB-WiFi-6-4-Colors-/281932346147?var=&hash=item41a47a3323:m:mvbO6tamIB6pf8UL1R-ZH5A
>>8171863
I have this too. Served me well, I've read more than 120 books over two years and a half.
Been thinking about upgrading to Glo HD tho, that backlight and superior resolution will be a major help in getting throughThe Wheel of Time.
>>8171540
It's a short story nigga, stop projecting. Not everyone sucks at writing.
>>8171863
It barely does. Select and press on convert, done.
Don't buy that Kobo if you aren't a mega poorfag. Terrible resolution, half the DPI of any modern ereader. Don't cheap out on a one time investment you will use for 10+ years.
>>8171860
>>8171861
You guys mention the light, are you referring to a backlight? Why would you want an e-reader with a backlight? I already have a tablet, I just hate reading on a screen.
>>8171863
I duno about this, the major stores here don't seem to sell any cheap Kobos and I'm dubious about buying 2nd hand, especially when I have a 4th gen Kindle on offer for $50.
>>8171875
The light on an ereader is different from a screen - it doesn't shine the light onto your face, but it shines it onto the reader from above and doesn't hurt your eyes. There's probably some better explanation videos on youtube, but you 100% want this. You'll see why when you have it, you use it even during the day and it looks 'natural'.
>>8171875
Like I've said, I got that one from the very same seller.
It's been quite useful, unles you care about speed of page turning or whatever, which doesn't matter really and the backlight, which normal books also don't have so it isn't really a problem.
If you can get a 4th gen kindle for 50$ well you should go with it I guess, I had to order online because they sell for like 200-300$ in stores here because fuck poor countries.
>>8170591
I'm not sure if recommending this is going to be a faux pas, but an online serial writer is writing a fantastic biopunk story right now called "Twig", if you want to check it out.
>>8171901
>slightly increased DPI
It's almost double.
It's very well worth the up price, but do what you want.
>>8171120
>15: shitposting about muh dinosaurs
>16: wanting pregnancy to be covered more in novels
>>8171908
It's just words. Does the difference between 167 and 300 DPI really matter that much? It's not as if I'm photoshopping on the e-reader.
>>8171920
Not him and not an expert but I do have a Kobo Touch and while extremely handy it does get a little tiring to read, especially in low light environments.
>>8171920
Yes, and I already said so. I'm not here to do a sales pitch mate, just do whatever. I just think it's a very bad decision to go with the outdated one on something you will use for years pretty much daily.
>>8171926
It shows letters which forms books just fine, not sure how it is not a long term investment, unless it breaks.
Hey OP where do you get all these cool ass backgrounds from?
>>8172001
literally just google "fantasy" and go on images
>>8171558
Read age of myth. Should hold you over.
>>8171582
It doesn't even really touch on those themes
>>8172030
Yes, but you are a braindead moron.
what is a good fantasy book/series that doesnt have magic in it?
>>8172239
Guy Gavriel Kays books usually have barely any to none in them.
>>8172083
.... why are you so against me anon? Is it that you actually like me? Do your wet walls quiver at the thought of being around a distinguished individual such as myself?
My sister and I are going to be in the car a lot the next few days. I'd really like either a book with a good audiobook version or an audiodrama that has a vibe kind of like Star Trek: The Original Series, so that we can listen on the way, without being actual Star Trek, because she'll call it lame without giving it a chance even though she likes sci-fi and fantasy in general.
>>8171849
>tfw BBC skipped that
>>8172640
>as a vibe kind of like Star Trek: The Original Series, so that we can listen on the way, without being actual Star Trek
How about some Battlestar Galactica? Olmos' voice is amazing.
>DISMISSED.
What sci-fi (not science fantasy) would you recommend for someone who liked Lord of the Rings? Preferably with a bit of action, and that hooks you faster than LotR.
>>8172365
So, not like LOTR at all? Try Stars My Destination.
>>8172773
>Mistakenly quote Dino Anon and recommend him a 1956 book
You triggered him. God help us all.
Is A Fire Upon the Deep more of an exciting thing, or a slow boil?
>>8172640
>listening to radio or CDs or whatever while driving a car.
Do you want to cause accidents?
I threw my radio out of the window when my mom kept turning it on.
>>8172789
I'm sorry for her, having an autistic son must be quite the ordeal.
>>8172765
Shannara Chronicles
>>8172824
don't listen to him, Shannara is hot garbage.
>>8172833
It's also not sci-fi.
>>8172786
Pretty slow, yeah. I couldn't really get into it on my first read through, but loved it the second time.
>>8172765
>the LOTR of sci fi
Dune, without a doubt.
>>8172779
1956 isn't even old lol
>>8172841
>preferably with a bit of action
>hooks you faster than LoTR
Anon...
>>8172867
It does have more action than LOTR and it does hook you faster. Whether Dune's levels of actions are acceptable to that anon is another matter altogether, I fulfilled his request to the letter.
>>8172871
Nothing happens until the last 100 pages or so, and there is no hook at any point. It's pretty much the same throughout.
>>8172640
Foundation trilogy. If you can, the whole series even(robots, empire, foundation, and the side-works).
>tfw nobody in the internet mentions how Bailey references Sherlock Holmes using that one phrase in The Naked Sun
My autism is slightly upset.
Quick, someone recommend me a good one-shot audio book I can easily find and download. Preferably with a female lead that isn't Mistborn
>>8173070
I, Robot.
I had a reoccuring dream as a child. I even doubt it was a dream. Whenever I came into my room late at night, a wolf formed out of light particles (looked like a normal wolf when it merged). We used to talk, but I was really scared. Care to explain, someone?
>>8170561
Hard sci-fi is objectively terrible.
>>8173135
You had shrooms
>>8171547
The Hour Of The Dragon.
>>8173181
Objectively wrong, hard sf is the only good sf.
And unless the author sources his claims his book is without any doubt worthless trash.
>>8173135
Did he pay the troll to to get your little boy hole?
>>8173215
Most good sf isn't hard because those writers had characters for a change.
>>8173222
Most good sf is hard because those writers weren't complete morons who had no Idea what they were talking about and just made shit up along the way.
>>8173232
This is untrue as Wolfe, Dick, le Guin and Zelazny are the best SF writers and they did not write hard SF.
The real tech doesn't mean anything, unless you have autism.
>>8173256
>This is untrue as Wolfe, Dick, le Guin and Zelazny are the best SF writers and they did not write hard SF.
Subjective impressions are not an argument.
And although I enjoyed a lot of their books I still enjoy hard sf more.
>The real tech doesn't mean anything, unless you have autism.
No. Its autism if you, for example, have ftl travel in your novel as a given without giving detailed background about its relation to relativity.
>>8173280
You're autistic.
Detailed backgrounds and explenations aren't needed, all it needs to be is to be consistent.
>>8173280
>Its autism if you, for example, have ftl travel in your novel as a given without giving detailed background about its relation to relativity.
No anon, having detailed background on irrelevant shit for the sake of it is autism.
pro tip : SFF uses the science/fantasy as a TOOL to say something. It's not about the ships or dragons themselves.
>>8173280
>No. Its autism if you, for example, have ftl travel in your novel as a given without giving detailed background about its relation to relativity.
so how high are you om the spectrum
>>8173280
>subjective impressions
No, it's a simple fact.
>>8173300
The only one of those that could be considered up there is Dick.
>>8173321
Dick is the worst in the bunch by most standards.
>>8173355
No, it's a simple fact.
I was looking for some generic fantasy with elves, wizards, knights, etc. Someone recommended this, is it any good?
So much of this genre fiction is actually so silly it is really hard to get into it. Some things are outright foolish, like that new "Half a king" book by Joe Abercrombie or Shannara. Things like Hyperion, some books of Dune and A Song of Ice and Fire that are both enjoyable and rewarding aren't plentiful.
>>8173604
> like that new "Half a king" book by Joe Abercrombie
I fucking hated that shit
>>8173604
You really sound like an expert.
>>8173619
I'm not.
>>8173604
>A Song of Ice and Fire
>enjoyable
>rewarding
It has poor writing, poor pacing, and it won't be finished.
>>8173667
Nice memes.
>>8173667
/tv/ needs to leave.
>>8173689
But all of those claims are true.
>>8173696
No they are not, you are yet another retard who hasn't even read the books repeating shit he has seen other retards post.
>>8173704
This. Honestly, this is so much of 4chan by now, its beyond hilarious. /lit/ should be as much about self development through discovering good literature as it is about enjoying it. You can't do that by repeating this retarded shit constantly instead of trying out new things by yourself.
Then again, of course you're gonna think Ice and Fire sucks if you enjoy Half a king by Joe Abercrombie.
>>8173554
I like it, and it fits your description.
>>8173704
I've read them.
The pacing indeed is awful, considering there was one novel which is almost entirely wasted on nothing.
The prose is banal and juvenile.
The plot is drawn out needlessly long with the main hook being annoying cliffhangeers made even more annoying by Arya/Sansa chapters.
If it actually does end, the ending is going to be unsatisfactory as it always is with stories which build its own hype for ages without having a clear thought out plot.
Martin is a mediocre writer who from time to time crafts a solid character, but is otherwise not very good at what he does.
>>8173729
Game of Thrones is not good literature.
>>8173740
Why are you telling lies?
Who are you trying to impress on this chinese memes and frogpisting board?
Why are you trying so hard to fit in?
>>8173746
define 'literature'
>>8173751
Written works of fiction with value of some sort, be it artistic, psychological, philosophical or something in the line.
>>8173749
Why would I pretend about reading a novel which almost every person younger than 30 has read?
It's a series of novels which is decent entertainment, but bad literature.
>>8173740
>>8173746
1) Define 'literature'
2) How about you list some of the good things about Ice and Fire? For example, how its universe, places, history, character interactions and drama are so subtle and well put into 5 1000+ pages books without even a trace of plot error or inconsistency? How GRRM's level of devotion towards it is absolutely insane and attempt of telling story this large with so many characters in ever changing world is fresh and innovative in this genre. How much work and effort it takes to tell a story that is primarily about this world at war only told through characters you think are main characters. How about its super careful and well thought out history, government, society, warfare and so many things that were subjected to historical analysis by historian and sociologists and made sense
>>8173782
It's not really fresh to the genre.
The effort doesn't really mean anything as far as it being something good in the final product we can talk about. Sure, he put effort in, and it shows in many things. Does the effort make it somehow better than it actually is?
No.
As for the inconsistency, I never really went looking for it. If I did notice any I've forgotten in the meantime, been quite a while since I've read it.
The society is well done, but not something which I was particularly impressed with, it's more or less Europe with flavor and a bit of magic. It's fine for what it is, but nothing more.
I'm a sucker for the 'fish out of water' trope and am looking for a book that features a person/entity from a different dimension/world who arrives on modern day earth, can you guys suggest any? Something along the lines of 'The Wonderful Visit' by H.G. Wells
>>8172786
A Fire Upon the Deep is a generic fantasy story that people think is science fiction for some reason.
The stupid evil cloud thing = dark lord
Ancient artifact destroys it at the end
Zones of thought = magic.
There was absolutely nothing scientifically interesting about the whole story. No, the tines or whatever they are called aren't interesting.
>>8173929
>muh intergalactic usenet
>muh AI
>muh programmer archaeologists
Any fantasy that has a spooky feel to it?
How many perspectives is too many? I have one character who takes up most of the chapters, another who comes close, two more with less time, and a smattering of others you get sometimes.
>>8174508
take out some
if the book doesnt work without them put it back in
>>8174031
Just finished The Stand, there were a few subtle spooks, and The Drawing of Three had a REALLY good spook dropped in, but it isn't the first in the Dark Tower series.
Pretty much King when he gets an itch.
>>8170521
not trying to be snobby, but I cant be the only one who just couldnt bother with the literal fan-fiction tier prose and 'flatter than paper' characters in Dune ?
What exactly does this book have that makes it so special ? What am I missing ? I have only read about 15% but Christ allmighty, the prose is just so fucking cringe inducing. No hate intented tho
>>8173782
Not that other guy, but you said that historians and sociologists studied the society, but wasn't it actually said that the towns and cities have poor planning for taking care of all the people, and even then, the societies aren't advanced or populated enough after eight fucking thousand years of written history and living with magic around?
Just curious.
>>8175018
>societies aren't advanced or populated enough after eight fucking thousand
I hate this argument. This is a different world with different cultures, different political forces, and a vastly different climate. You can't just expect that the Renaissance will occur exactly the same in Westeros as it did in Europe.
>>8175037
Not talking about cultural advance per se, but technological.
I mean, it took us around 4 or 5 thousand years to figure out how to use electricity as an energy source, surely something akin to that should've happened in there after double that amount of time.
>>8175074
>it took us around 4 or 5 thousand years to figure out how to use electricity as an energy source, surely something akin to that should've happened in there after double that amount of time.
Humans developed agriculture at about 10,000BC. Electricity was only properly utilised in the last century or two. Throw in the fact that Westeros is a lot smaller than Earth, that it has terrible lengthy and freezing winters and cataclysmic shit like the Others and dragons and it's hardly surprising that they're still where we were perhaps six hundred years ago.
>>8175094
>10,000BC
I was talking about written history, but i haven't read the books yet, so i don't know if there was anything before the First Men in there.
>Others
They've been away for at least 1000 years, if not more.
>Dragons
Tameable.
Given how they act like normal human beans most of the time, i'd figure that the struggle for survival would've helped them develop faster in harsh environments due to their extreme needs.
Which then begs the question of how do they get their food in their long winters.
Then again, i'm questioning a work of fiction, so it's not like i'll get anywhere.
Can you recommend some sci-fi that is more speculative about humanity and uses science fiction as a vessel for that? Stuff like The Dispossessed, but not Le Guin as I've read plenty of her work and know there's more if I want it.
Think of it as social science fiction. Star Trek: TOS did it a bit.
>>8173920
Nine Princes in Amber.
>>8175160
>tfw the success of Star Trek TOS and TNG proved that there's a market for optimistic sci fi
>all science fiction in the past twenty years has been grimdark
>>8171233
thepiratebay.se
When searching, check only "Other" box
All sorts of print material in epub, pdf, cbr...
Also lots of classics are put online by university professors and others and can be legally downloaded as well.
I prefer reading a print book but you can't beat the price and it's convenient having a library on my phone
>>8175167
>Nine Princes in Amber.
This has to be the only series which I've read which starts out interesting, goes to shit and then becomes better and better in subsequent books until the end of Corwin's cycle.
What the fuck.
>>8173920
stranger in a strange land, obvi
What's a good name for a story about an alien that thinks it's a god among men? The best title I have is 'Reaper in the Glade'
>>8175452
The Art Of The Deal
>>8175495
It doesn't fit, the alien only thinks he's a god, whereas the author of the book you've suggested actually is a bona fide deity.
Wait so how fucking old are the people in Malazan?
>Living for centuries and for millenia
what?
>>8175499
You have a point.
>>8175452
Keep it simple. The Alien Who Thinks He Is A God has a certain ring to it.
>>8175504
Which book are you on? Most of the humans have regular ages.
>>8171327
>e reader
just use a smartphone or a laptop?
why do you need an ereader
>>8175610
Are you braindead?
>>8175452
God Complex.
>>8175610
Thats really stupid. An e-reader has a display without backlight that means you won't get headaches and you also won't ruin your eyes.
>>8175504
For the most part every person lives for a regular amount off time.
That excludes mages/gods/ascendants and some other people.
I feel like reading A wizard of earthsea.
Is it a fun/quick read? I'm looking for something cozy.
>>8175664
Read Bridge of Birds.
>>8175666
I definitely will. Thanks.
>>8175697
Congratulations on being a mutant.
>>8175675
Fuck you. I hope you hate it.
>>8170536
I've read The Paper Menagerie, thought it was pretty good. His short story Cassandra, the only other thing I've read of his, isn't really worth the time. I heard his novel was ok, good world building but at the cost of character.
>>8175664
Wizard of earthsea is like Harry Potter if it had been written by a competent, non-hack writer. Definitely recommend.
Is it true that Malazan gets better after book 1? I'm reading Gardens of the Moon and I'm a little bit lost.
>>8175788
yeah
that's normal
>>8175074
>surely something akin to that should've happened
Based on Earth?
If so, why do you put so much weight on a target sample of 1?
There are also some human populations left that haven't made electricity yet.
So, I finished Dune.
All around a pretty underwhelming experience and I honestly don't get the extreme amounts of praise for it. It had some cool moments, but those cool moments weren't really worth about 500 pages of slogging through.
+ Paul is an entertaining character, especially towards the end
+ Fairly interesting setting
+ The dialogue and character interactions were decently well written
- Badly paced, builds up for an extremely long time just to resolve the conflict in a dozen pages
- Boring, uninspired prose
- Undeveloped, uninspired characters aside from Paul/Jessica
- Minimal sandworm action, which drew me to the book in the first place
Final score: 2/5
>>8175845
>wanting to read Dune for "sandworm action"
Looks like Michael Bay is more your speed. They have a sick epic metal worm in Transformers 3, you should check it out.
>Moiraine saves everyone's life time and time again
>also provides constantly invaluable knowledge and advice
>HURRR WE HATE HER SHE MUST PAY FOR WHAT SHE'S DONE TO US
>Aes Sedai are the only thing barely keeping the world from destroying itself with war
>HURRR I HATE THEM, THEY'RE MEANIES
>Nynaeve going on and on about how much she hates Aes Sedai while training to be one entirely of her own volition
Is everyone in WoT immensely, mind boggingly retarded?
>>8175869
Because the writer wasn't good at his job?
I mean you know he is no genius or even a talent at writing the essentials of quality novels.
>>8175739
>Augh I Hate White Men: The Story
>Competently made
>>8175920
You don't know what you're talking about, I suggest actually reading the book. Just because the protagonist isn't white doesn't mean it's anti white in any way shape or form.
>>8175926
I've read it, it's daydreams about an exotic shota written by a frustrated ugly woman.
>>8175857
Not him but the Transformers movies are shit tier. Fuck Hollywood for producing massproduced crap that the market will mass eat up.
The Transformer's anime trilogy was one of my first proper exposures to scifi and included some serious Ship of Theseus philosophising and had some extremely memorable, unique and tragic characters like Alpha Q who lose everything dear to them in the cruellest way imaginable (an alien survivor rendered into a fivefold schizophrenic by despair trying to recreate its homeworld from the inside of the planet eater responsible for its destruction while existing in a parasitic relationship with the aforementioned). There was also plenty of interesting commentary on bioengineering, political commentary, the complexity of memory underlying an individual's allegiance both moral and ethical and nuanced questioning as to whether individuals can truly change.
And Hollywood turned it into fancy CGI memeshit where the Decepticons 9/11 Antarctica and human romance. It truly boggles the bind. This shouldn't be how the series is remembered.
>>8175961
*mind
>>8175933
>exotic shota
Is it loli or /ss/ or yaoi?
>>8175697
>What headaches are you talking about?
>I've been reading on monitors for years I never get any headaches
Then I'm happy for you but many people do get headaches especially when you are concentrating on what you are reading.
>>8175972
Have you reduced brightness?
I always put my monitors as dim as possible.
Seriously guys.
https://justgetflux.com/
Jailbreak your phone and install it too or get the android equivalent or whatever it's called.
>>8175976
Here's the kicker; you don't have to do that on a Kindle. Bright, paper-like screen that doesn't hurt anyones eyes even over extended periods of reading.
>>8175990
Enjoy losing your eyesight at 30.
>>8175987
I didn't follow the conversation, so now I see it was e-reader/pc.
I completely agree, kindle/many other e-readers have great display technology.
e-ink I think it was called, maybe they use something else now but it's obviously better suited for reading than a PC monitor.
>>8175990
It's not giving me headaches but I prefer dimmer light.
Some people have migraine issues and will get headaches from bright light / headaches will be worsened with bright light
>>8175994
[citation needed]
>>8175984
Seconded, going to sleep became way easier once I got that.
>>8175961
I was being sarcastic, no need to sperg out. I know full well the movies are garbage.
>>8176027
I'm still rather sad about it even though I do understand that you were illustrating a salient point.
>>8175984
flux is a nice program. Sometimes I disable it if I'm playing a certain game at night that's already too dark but otherwise, it's a great subtle device.
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Do you know some good post apocalyptic novels?
I only know these books, although I have not yet read:
- The Road
- The Postman
- Il Cavallo Venduto, by Scerbanenco (I don't know if there is a international version of this book)
- The Shannara Saga
- A Canticle for Leibowitz
- Player One
- The Long Tomorrow
>>8175845
This is the problem with reading classic literature from 50+ years ago - by today's standards it's dull and hackneyed, but at the time its masterful.
>>8176119
I mean, people from today still praise it a lot. And a lot of other classics hold up. It depends on the book really.
>>8175452
For God's Sake!
>>8176119
No, Dune was always like that and literature doesn't seem bad by standards of today because the standards are always the same.
Dune didn't age well because it lacks some crucial elements of classics in general, meaning it wasn't as good to begin with, although it had some science fiction novelty to it.
>>8176122
All classics hold up to a certain degree, Dune does as a science fiction epic, but not as a study of character psychology, life wisdom or other elements say Dostoevsky or Joyce have.
>>8176079
That seems like enough for you to be getting on with!
The Gone-Away World is another one that I love.
>>8176151
>Dostoevsky
>Joyce
>White Sand Volume 01
>my game
Oh the choices!
>tfw blindsight fever
>>8176151
Fuck outta here
>read Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser
>hype as fuck
>watch Star Trek: The Original Series
>awesome series that the franchise has never surpassed
Dinosaur anon is out of his mind.
>>8175845
I agree that Dune is flawed, but nevertheless it is an interesting work to consider. It is absolutely sprawling with thematic content about technology, religion, and ecology. Indeed it is difficult to figure out exactly what Herbert is doing. It feels like he was struggling to rein in a story that had taken on a life of its own, compelled by its big ideas to some 800 pages or whatever it is - too long.
Contrast this with Arthur C Clarke who can write about so much within 300 pages. Although Herbert is more concerned with characterisation; whether this is to his credit, I cannot say.
>>8176404
Some people like shit, but not everyone likes shit.
You guys shit on my tastes constantly, I don't see how me not liking one of your books is some great crime, not when you lot hate almost all of mine.
You don't see me splerging when you guys shit on Sanderson, Weeks, and Sullivan... yet, when I say Conan a shit and fag mouser a shit, you cunts blow up and get butt blasted.
I find it funny you all getting mad at being called dinosaurs. When you guys shitpost I just go and read.
>>8176568
Why do you like shit anon?
It has obviously been quite harmful to your mental and intellectual development.
>>8176568
And yet, every time I ask you precisely WHAT did you find in Fafhrd that wasn't to your liking, you go stone dead silent, which makes me think you haven't even actually read it.
Come on, let's hear some coherent arguments for a change.
>>8171369
It's purely in your mind. That is not to say you're wrong. Physical books bring with them touch, volume, smell, and other senses into the reading. The way you hold them is different, the way you turn the page is different.
These things add up, and give your brain a different feeling when reading a physical book vs ereader.
Unfortunately, 60% of my library is digital due to the convenience.
>>8174850
I'm actually reading it today for the first time. About 40% in.
The prose is ok. The characters are similarly "flat" to those in Foundation. I attribute this to both series telling the story of the world, rather than the story of the characters. The themes, lore, and underlying messages of the book is whats drawing me forward.
So has anyone here read Peter V. Bretts Warded man?
Friend said he found it in his Garage and I just wanted to know if it's worth getting into
>>8176706
Never heard of him honestly.
>>8176706
I tried the first book and didn't make it 100 pages, it was just too fucking generic.
>>8176706
It's GRI approved. The female lead is insufferable, but other than those two it's a quick fun read that doesn't try to be anything more than a humanity vs demons book.
I'd give it like a 7/10
>>8176598
>arguments
You think I come here to debate fantasy?
I have to justify not liking something?
Are you king? Do you decide the status quo?
I just didn't like the style of the writing, it pissed me off for some reason. I read one of them last year, can't remember which it was a short story, just remember being pissed off at the end. Not touching anything else with that name even if "that was one of the worst novels" argument comes up.
You like that shit, I don't, at least not how that was written.
>>8176706
It's great, later books gets too not-jihad in my opinion. When I read it years ago it was a fresh take on post apocalyptic novels. Also GRI approved.
