I think this is the first book I feel I just can't get through out of pure disgust. It's beautifully written but I just can't stand the subject matter. Should I stop being a pussy and stick to it?
>>8160973
Yes, you fucking cry baby, what the fuck
>>8160973
Try babyfucker
Beyond Good And Evil.
I feel lost reading this book, I think I understand it then I reread the last 10 pages and feel as if I've never touched them.
>>8160973
That's how I felt for the first 50 pages or so
>>8160973
Stick to it, holy shit you fucking baby, what do you want, trigger warnings because it's too uncomfortable for you?
Fucking finish it.
>>8160973
>boohoo i love the smell of young pussy and im such a depressed degenerate pussay pussay pussay
I couldn't get past the first 100 pages. It's clever but the style got tiring quick
Hi,/lit/
I've just started Ulysses, read some pages and now i am thinking, whether to continue or not. The matter is my age... I am, maybe, sort of young for it. It won't be easy, right ? Is it better to get through Bible and Odyssey to understand some allusions before starting Joyce ? So what do you think, /lit/, should I continue know or it's too sophisticated for youngsters and it would be better to wait for awhile ?
(Sorry, if my english is pretty simplified - i'm not a native speaker)
>>8160973
Hijacking OP's thread. This was the best book I've ever written. I haven't read much though. What Nabokov should I read after it?
>>8161120
>The matter is my age... I am, maybe, sort of young for it.
if you're asking then you probably are. you should have absolutely read portrait and odyssey before this. and possibly hamlet too.
you know you are too young for it. you know you are if you are making this post. just be honest with yourself. there is zero shame in being reasonable about that. in fact it's a pragmatic and mature decision to arrive at.
>>8161122
>This is the best book I've ever written
Nabokov, get out of here man.
>>8161186
Thank you. You helped me to decide. And you are right about knowing the answer by myself, but it was a dilemma between the passion to read and the thought to wait. So I'ill go and start the portrait and Odyssey at first(Hamlet is already finished). Thank you again for your respond.
lol you are supposed to get those boners reading it OP, don't feel so insecure about it.
>>8160994
Nietzsche is challenging because he doesn't hold your hand and his argument is that we need to internally figure our shit out, which is a complicated and highly personal process. There is no handbook.
>>8160973
It's a comedy. enjoy it that way.
>>8161122
Speak, memory is just as good. Give it a try
>>8161186
>someone actually being helpful on /lit/
>>8160973
Can't bring myself to finish this schlock. Sorry to Fanzens of /lit/.
>>8161120
Since you are probably the type of 4channer who just wants to try 'le hardest everything' instead of natural progression, yes you are too young and retarded to read it.
I don't understand what would disgust people about it.
Granted, I like little girls - but the book is extremely subtle.
>>8161586
You should be aware that one doesn't read a book with the title smaller than the author's name.
>>8161668
So I shouldn't read the Shakespeare collection I bought last week?
Behead All Satans....because I just don't want it to end.
>>8160994
Heuristics are both the essence and antithesis of studying Nietzsche
>>8161506
>comedy
>protagonist dies in the end.
>>8161186
>kind anon helps young anon
What board is this?
>>8160973
Tried to get my gf to read this. Turns out she was raped when she was 12. She didn't want to keep reading it, and I guess I can't protest too much to that (even though I love the book).
>>8161740
break up now, she's gonna be a nutcase
>>8161758
Nah, she's alright. Very chillaxed about stuff. We're reading IJ together right now and she's really into it. If the crazy rears its head down the road, I can just bail down the road.
>>8160973
this book is comedy gold, why can't you read it?
>My very photogenic mother died in a freak accident (picnic, lightning)
kills me everytime
>>8160973
You are weak trash. You don't deserve literacy.
>>8161769
Have fun paying for her valium for the rest of your life.
>>8160973
Madame Bovary
I hated that bitch so much, it actually made me angry. So I stopped.
Might be different now.
>>8160973
>reading for plot
Fail.
>>8162770
>think books without a plot are good
double fail, we get it, you've read so much literature that you've become desensitized to anything with conventional story telling, it doesn't mean the rest of us have. Just stick to reading your niche books with almost zero following which will be forgotten in a hundred years
>>8162776
Go back to /tv/ - you disgusting, embarrassing pleb.
>>8162785
Watch that modernism bro it's leaking
>>8162776
>if you don't judge a book by its cover, then you are in favor of not putting covers on books
>>8162868
>I'll take non sequitur for a 1000 Alex.
False analogies are not necessary, surely you've heard of hyperbole? It's a rhetorical device used to emphasize through exaggeration. I don't really think the books he likes "have no plot" I think that they are not plot-centric which is a terrible way of telling stories. If you enjoy masturbatory prose then fine, just don't assume you are a genius because you do. You just have crippling autism
>>8161120
Read it. Would it be your onlu read? I hope not.
>>8160973
Catch-22
I know it's supposed to be funny, but it was meh for me
I get the jokes and I understand why they would make someone laugh, but they don't make me laugh. I left it unfinished having read roughly half of it.
>>8162911
The analogy was spot on, actually. You are clinically retarded.
>>8161707
spolier tag at least please
Read this a long time ago.
Remind me what Humbert's explanation for his taboo was? Unexplored opportunity for youth snatch? There was a scene with some love interest, too long between to pcychoanalyze in the now. Care to refresher me the swiftness?
So I wanted to fuck young Natalie Portman in Professional (Leon) as a child. Did growing up make it so difficult for me to screw her look-alikes in highschool? and her jaded soul-sisters in college fetish parties?
I'm reminded the author has the whistleblower mother hit by a car immediately upon discovery. This drives (lol) the narrative really blowing this debauchery forward.
Brilliant in its lasting strangeness of philosophy. If you consider how easily this ordeal happened, you'd say it was to some degree a naturally occurring situation. Yet, given civilization has risen to allow women educations, their development is founded on distractions from their dickthirst/obligation. Even todays backward ass times shows vast differences within lands of the college prostitute and the jungle boogie fuck muppetry in greater Zaire. End point - the breeding vessel Lo was intended to be just another nobody with her promiscuity. She attains motherhood and a bonus prize for her role in society - nothing rare. Dude was totally out of line only in that western Civ. has proceeded from this apathy. He becomes the jackass, retarded to the modern code much like we assume of the contemporary arab.
>>8163291
That is so weird, I felt EXACTLY the same way about that book. It was honestly more sad than anything.
>>8161707
FUUUUCK YOUUUUUUU
I'm reading this book right now, you unbelievable huge sack of shit.
Kill yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>8164277
on literally THE FIRST FUCKING PAGE Nabokov tells you Humbert dies in prison. Learn to fucking read you autistic piece of shit
my diary DESU
>>8164288
I don't read the foreword.
>>8164288
> tfw the first time I read Lolita I believed it was a real introduction
>>8164301
It's part of the actual novel you clown.
>>8164301
jokes on you then home boy, it's not a real foreword. It's a metafictional device used to set Humbert up as an unreliable narrator.
>>8164301
I'm struggling with Anna Karenina. It is both artistically great and extremely entertaining, "unputdownable". However I get emotional due to being in a nearly identical situation as Anna's husband in the past, and I feel like I'm kind of reliving it again.
>>8161740
>Turns out she was raped when she was 12. She didn't want to keep reading it, and I guess I can't protest too much to that (even though I love the book).
rape is social construct when a woman ends up choosing being fucked by sub-chad.
>>8160973
In the first half of Lolita I was sick of his pervert thoughts.
Ironically as soon as he lost her I wished he kept doing that instead of whining
>>8161120
>>8162756
The first time i read it I felt that too.
The second time however I didn't read it for the plot and it's truly a masterpiece
>>8164363
bitch pls
>>8164376
>Confessions of a Mask gone
>1984 put in
>>8160973
>I think this is the first book I feel I just can't get through out of pure disgust. It's beautifully written but I just can't stand the subject matter. Should I stop being a pussy and stick to it?
>Lolita
Man, it is fucking amazing and it gets humurous as you go through it.
Simply, frankly, fucking amazing.
You may even feel your morals vindicated by the plotline... Of course depending on what interpretation you give of it.
I still laugh hard thinking of it.
>>8164422
Worst part is, Rita was perfect.
Fucking Humbert.
>>8164427
You mean Valeria, maybe.
>>8164464
>bitch whocuckedhim
>... just like, well, you know
Fuck Valeria. Rita a best.
>>8164474
I was just baiting.
>>8164367
I guess I'm just too easily triggered by superficial backstabbing women.
I didn't even get far enough to know if the gets punished for it. Didn't seem like she would in the first few chapters.
>>8164313
Im reading Anna Karenina too, and can't stop thinking in stupid memes of cuckoldry. On the other hand I really enjoy Levin's chapters.
>>8164376
why the fuck is Dorian a ginger
>>8164277
It's a 60 year old novel, you should have read it by now :)
>>8164422
>You may even feel your morals vindicated by the plotline
Online if you're the exact type of reader Nabokov was mocking in the novel, itself.
>>8164363
Stop spamming your shitty chart nobody likes.
>>8164301
You're an unbelievable fuckwit.
>>8160973
For real? Jesus dude read it. Even though it's pedophilic and such honestly it's probably the best and most accurate love story that exists
Moby Dick
>>8161707
Wow, way to ruin a book for everyone...
>>8166142
>Moby Dick
Here you go.
https://youtu.be/XIoAYq9iD4A
>>8161707
lol
I forgot about that part
I need to re-read it.
>>8166241
How does that ruin the book?
It's literally how the book starts
>"Lolita, or the Confession of a White Widowed Male," such were the two titles under which the writer of the present note received the strange pages it preambulates. "Humbert Humbert," their author, had died in legal captivity, of coronary thrombosis, on November 16, 1952, a few days before his trial was scheduled to start.
The Pickwick Papers.
It's fucking long!
I'm sorry, I know what it was trying to do, I get the appeal I honestly do but I just couldn't do it.
Just so fucking boring.
this piece of shit
>>8160973
god, shut the fuck up.
>>8162770
He just said he cant stand the descriptions of a young girl you moron bitch arse pussy arse nigga fuck face faggot bitch nigger
gaah I'm so glad I found this thread. I don't think I can complete this book, it's taken me 3 days to get 15 pages in, because I'm just not confident leaving a page and feeling like I understand what's going on. It's so confusing. There's a story within a story, the guy describes vague events, and uses language like how the sun miserly on the window cil and steel beams "like the look you make when you wake up after a night of bad sleep, or after you write a page without stopping". Fuuuuuuck. I wish he would shut the fuck up about his mother fucking history book too, I really don't give a fuck about who assassinated Paul 1, NOT A SINGLE FUCK!!!
>>8166573
pleb
>>8167938
Nausea is fucking simple man.
>>8167944
NO IT'S NOT! I read the Metamorphosis in 1 day and totally got it, this is not as easy at all. I read the stranger in 1 day. This is way harder.
>>8160973
Sometimes a Great Notion by Kesey. Dunno why. I've started It like 4 times and only have made it halfway through. Its interesting to a point and then fucking babble. And I aint no bitch, nigga. I've had less difficulty wading through Pynchon.
i finished it but that was on sufferance.
such an impressively hate filled book .
i never finished martin amis's Lionel Asbo .I knew that if i did i would never read another Amis book ever again.
>>8168128
PS: there is an free English translation linked on Wikipedia and it's way netter then the pic one.
>>8160973
if it makes you feel any better like half the people who love this book are women
>>8167938
nausea is a foundational, yet sometimes lofty didactic scope into sartre's philosophy. i remember feeling a similar way when i started it. push through at your own pace, i guarantee you'll find yourself piecing it together as you get further in.
>>8168297
my girlfriend was actually the one that got me into it.
youd think subject matters like this and perfume would turn women away, but theyre my gf's two favorite books. are women masochistic or something?
>>8161272
>>8161704
both good replies.
>>8160994
If you want to wrangle with Nietzsche, it's helpful to learn from the same texts he did so you have some kind of sequence, a sense of the logic that he is building on or diverting from. You have to understand that he studied 'duh greekz' and was familiar with term logic, so you need to be equally as familiar with these methods of thinking if you're going to read his literature. You have to realize he is making an argument. You have to know how to construct a formal argument before you expect to understand one that looks like prose, just from reading it once-through.
>>8160973
Probably my favourite book I ever read, but I haven't ever reread it, because I just sort of can't deal with the thought of going through it again. Watch the Kubrick adaptation after you've read it, it's a decent movie, not fantastic, but still good enough.
>>8162756
>got called sexist by a spanish teacher for telling that she (Madame Bovary) was a "loose woman".
I am glad she dies painfully.
>>8160973
Hahaha hahaha you sound like a redditor.
>>8168633
>I am glad she dies painfully.
I might just finish it then.
>>8161769
there's incestual rape of a disabled teenager during one of the aa meetings that's pretty graphically described later so uh heads up
>>8160994
That is because you need to have understanding of prior philosophy and his other works.
It was a trial of endurance and it's not even long by Russian standards, but I got through it. The protagonist spending an entire chapter reviewing Pushkin's poetry about cabbage soup was surreal and arduous. I thoroughly enjoyed then parts with Strelnikov, the drama with people on the train and the Forest Brotherhood, but whenever the author turned his attention to Lara and Zhivago everything ground to a halt. Lara was interesting on her own, Zhivago was interesting on his own, but their romance was boring and whenever they got together the entire narrative became tedious. There were parts that left a powerful impression on me and I'm glad I read it, but I doubt I'd ever do it again.
>>8164301
It's not an actual foreword, you dumb fuck, it's the first chapter and it contextualises the whole fucking book.
>>8166573
how does it feel to finally come out of the plebcloset?
go to safe space, nigger-pussy
>>8164376
Only ones I haven't read are farenheit 451, Of Mice and Men, Lolita, and Androids. How pleb am I?
>>8171742
Pasternak tried to become a composer first, but sucked at that. Not really relevant, but I bet you didn't know that.
>>8167938
I read that book in a tent with a girl named sasha. I was bent.
