Does it exist?
I dont mean literature about psychedelics, but rather writing driven by the psychedelic experience, literature that is itself psychedelic.
yes, it's called image fiction and it's mostly garbage.
DUDE ACID LMAO XD
>>8021558
Naked Lunch gave me those feels.
I used to have an old edition that included all the grammar mistakes during particularly psychedelic passages which was cool, but i lost it. New editions corrected the grammar.
From my personal experience:
HST - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Burroughs - Naked Lunch, Cut up Trilogy
RAW - Illuminatus Trilogy
Spinoza - Ethics*
Deleuze and Guattari - Thousand Plateaus*
Blake Butler - Scorch Atlas, Three Hundred Millions
Reza Negarestani - Cyclonopedia
Manganelli - Hilarotragoedia*
*Depending on your notion of psychedelics
Mandatory
>>8021558
You probably don't want some pleb piece of writing, but I wrote this after having an NDE while hallucinating. It's basically the main character narrating a memory (to himself:he's just died)which turns into a 'scene' of him sitting with his subconscious (the doctor) and then becoming his subconscious based on the influence of his ego (the ^phrases^) and begins living again in an altered memory. It's based off a psychedelic/dream experience and their relation to tesseracts, in my opinion.
It's not a great piece by any means--I wrote it when I first started writing again-- but it's fun to analyze the dream logic if you really want to. Again, Im sure you're looking for renowned and adept writing, so you don't even have to read if you don't want. I gave it a day until expiration.
http://pastebin.com/bEbESEVT
>>8021558
Finnegan's Wake
And no, I haven't read it. I'm just telling you what Terrence McKenna said.
And no, I'm not a McKenna fan boy.
And no, I haven't taken psychedelics.
And no, I don't know what I'm talking about.
And no, I will not kill myself.
And no, I will not stop jacking off to hentai
And no, I will not stop creating dank memes
And no, I will not boink my bangbang with my boo
And no, I WILL NOT READ FINNEGANS WAKE
But yeah, Finnegans Wake. And trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
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>>8021677
who the hell writes like that
Thread hijack:
Has anyone read The Rose of Paracelsus? Supposedly it's written by Pickard, who, if you know anything about psychedelics, was a major acid distributor back in the day. I'm intrigued mostly cause I am a fan of alchemy and Paracelsus is one of the greats. I've read the amazon reviews but those can be biased. Anyone here experienced?
>>8021558
Anything by Robert Anton Wilson.
>>8021696
NYAI NYAI NYAI NYAI I HAS AUTISTAM OHHH NOOO IM A BAD BAD BOYY AND THE 4CHAN DONT LIKE ME NO MO :(
>>8021586
Also The Electric Kool-aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe
>>8021723
I don't think that was acid anon.
>>8021860
Did it with a friend and he felt fine. I made the mistake of drinking the next night which is when it got bad.
>>8021723
it happens, i did acid a few times and ended up schizophrenic -- acid is a normie drug for if you have normie problems that just need a "shift of perspective"
>>8021905
I don't think I have the right disposition to enjoy it properly, I've done it twice now and there's always too much anxiety of losing my mind when I'm on it despite the really great moments it provides.
Hope you're doing well, anon.
>>8021558
define "psychedelic" in this context. As in "producing hallucinations", or "creating a change in perceptual frame" or what?
>>8021696
"The musicality of it," somebody would say, and I'd say, "Oh God, yes, it's like Beethoven."
>>8021558
The communist manifesto.
the teachings of don juan
I could see many of the beta cucks around here learning a lot from it
In watermelon sugar by Richard brautigan
>>8021558
Alduous Huxley, Borges, half of PhilipK. Dick's books
>>8021860
>dude its impossible to have a bad trip on acid LMAO
>>8021723
Sounds like you got some shitty chinese knock off chemicals anon.
You gotta watch out for that these days.
Ever since they got those missile silo guys, it's all counterfit chemicals that will fuck you up
>>8021951
Who the hell writer like that
>disgust.jpg
>>8022193
If the experience lasted for several days, it was not acid. All the LSD is metabolized by ~12hrs.
Illuminatus! and other RAW
Godel Escher Bach
John C Lily
Finnegans Wake and Ulysses
Dale Pendell Pharmakon trilogy
Sartor Resartus
>>8022243
You can enter into a psychotic state from taking even pure acid which can make the experience seem longer than it is.
>>8022390
mate, I've had full blown psychosis from LSD, was hospitalized, released, and made it back to consensus reality within 12 hours.
Any effects you're getting after everything's been metabolized are stemming from your own preexisting mental conditions, not the LSD.
>>8022423
Psychotic episodes can often contain florid hallucinations, feelings of bliss and manic bursts of energy which are virtually indistinguishable from the effects of taking a psychedelic and may contribute to the appearance of the trip lasting longer than 12 hours. Moreover, no research chemical lasts an entire week either so by your logic it wasn't a research chemical either.
>>8022570
Never said it was a research chemical, imbecile. Dude had something up with his brain before he ever dosed.
>>8021676
This piece shows promise. Work on the rhythm of your writing. Move past cliches. Don't use so many adverbs.
Or disregard everything and do what you're gonna do anyway :-)
>>8022606
Thank you. I've been meaning to do a major edit on this soon, but I'm still caught up in my poetic bought and a novella I've been meaning to write for years. I appreciate the read, and the advice.
Finnegans Wake, read aloud
>>8022643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JIj0Bqbdhk
Yes. It's called "Psychonaut Literature".
- Philip K. Dick <--- King of Psychonaut Fiction
- Timothy Leary
- John C. Lilly <--- Coincidence Bureau
- Terence McKenna
hnmdurrr Aldous Huxley
this, 1000%
psilocybe cubensis>LSD
>>8022030
Seconded. Shit's crazy. As in, like, literally insane. All the while I was, mang, this is gotta be some allegory for something really deep but...what is it? Still don't know. Far out, man.
>>8024009
psilocybe semilanceata > cubensis
>>8021905
>acid is a normie drug
how?
what's considered a non-normie dug?
>>8021558
Inherent Vice?
Rudy Wurlitzer is /the/ psychedelic novelist. I haven't read his stuff yet, but I plan on buying "Nog" soon. He also did the screenplays of "Two-Lane Blacktop" and "Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid"
>>8024476
4-aco-DMT>mescaline>psilocybin>lsd>mdma>2C-x>DOx
>>8024465
datura, pcp, krokodil, jenkem
>>8021558
Calvino's s.story "All at One Point" is probably the trippiest thing i've ever read (haven't finished whole 'cosmicomics' tho), amazing stuff. Also Borges' "Aleph" made me think a lot about the time I dropped acid as well as Denis Johnson's 'Car Crash While Hitchhiking".
>>8025749
list done by a certified user
though i consider 2c-b and 2c-e better than acid.
>>8025786
they are inferior purely for their shorter history of human usage
Can taking large amounts of acid/ego death be beneficial to becoming confident and ubermensch?
>>8025803
No, you're not there if you need to take large amounts of acid to feel superior. Also, it'd probably make you (more) anxious.
>>8025803
You'll probably realize the lame adolescent vanity defining your motivation to drop acid, and in that way, counterintuitively, become a better man.
>>8024184
Glad to see someone else has read it. Trying to turn my friends onto brautigan rn with trout fishing in america, which isn't really psychedelic but just bizarre
>>8025666
Oh shit, I love Two Lane Blacktop, will check out Wurtlitzer's other stuff.
Check out Tim Kinsella's novel Let Go and Go On and On, about a third of it is about Laurie Bird and her character in Two Lane Blacktop. Only mildly psychedelic tho.
>>8021558
The Masks of Grave Expression
>>8025974
>written by Damien Atman
Hoooo boy, that's the lamest pseudonym I've heard in ages. Also, you are clearly him.
>>8025992
I'm not. An anon posted the pdf on this board a year ago and I read all of it in one sitting.
>>8026006
Care to post it then? I'll a tiny bit curious.
The Book of the New Sun
>>8026021
Would if I could.
But it's on my old desktop, peace be unto it. I loved that thing.
book VII of paradise lost
>>8021558
The Art of Seeing by Aldous Huxley
Phillip K Dick is the guy
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch is what you're looking for
>>8021696
that faggot is drunk or high and thinks he's being clever
>>8025803
To some degree.
Acid can help break down your preconceptions and assumption and allow you to reason for yourself.
As far as ego death goes...
Ego death isnt what you think it is.
Imagine the experience of feeling the "you" die, so that you know that your body is continuing to function and act and live, but the you that is you is being torn away.
It's not merely losing control of yourself, it's that your "you" is being killed and you dont know if you will come back or if you will be gone for good.
It's absolutely horrifying and the most scary thing I have ever experienced.
But it's very helpful for understandon what the "me" is in my mind. I always thought the ego superego id was bullshit until the me died and came back and then I realized what he was describing.
Anyways, you dont want a weak or dead ego. Self interest is the greatest motivator, and according to "might is right" its the greatest virtue.
>>8021586
Burroughs is a disgusting hack, Illuminatus! literally reads like Pynchon fan fiction.
>>8021842
Tom Wolfe's writing exceedingly fucking dull. He can really suck the energy out of the most vibrant scenario.
This thread is shit. OP read:
>Borges
>Calvino
>Barthelm
>Kafka
>George Saunders
>Cortázar>Pynchon
>>8022647
nICE
>>8021558
The Cantos is great, and very psychedelic IMO
Existentialism is not psychadelic.
Absurdism is not psychadelic.
None of those writers in the latter half of this thread were inspired by psychedelics.
If you can't differentiate between psychedelic and absurdism/existentialism, then you've just intellectually undeveloped.
>Dare coming to /lit/ and being wrong
>>8021677
Don't talk about Finnegan's Wake if you haven't read it, fuckboy. I'm reading it now and it's way better and different than any review prepared me for
>>8027546
>mfw James Joyce is alive and well and in this thread.
>>8022037
>Borges
What are you talking about?
I'm about halfway through Ulysses and at times I would definitely describe it as psychedelic, and from what I understand I'm not even at the most crazy parts of the book.
>>8027555
tandyboy
>>8021905
Do you have any family members who are schizophrenic?
>>8027567
What?
Tossing in another recommendation for Illuminatus!. It's really dated and you can tell the authors are buying into their own conspiracy a little too much, but it has a clever narrative style that gives it a very weird flow.
Several people have brought up The Doors To Perception, and cut that shit out. It's a great book, but it's definitely a book that's about psychedelics rather than being a psychedelic experience itself. It's a wonderful read, but it's not the right thing for this thread.
Extra recommendation: Satan Burger. It's not a great book, but I think it fits, and it's a fast afternoon read.
>>8027795
Is that a female ass?
>>8021558
House of Leaves
>>8027023
I've taken acid before, but it was more fun than enlightening. Is it just down to mindset?
>>8022243
>Dale Pendell Pharmakon trilogy
I've never seen anyone besides myself shill this series here.
Nice
>>8028071
do it alone in the woods at night.
preferrably do mushrooms.
some real dank recommendations ITT
thanks, lads
Only thing I can think of that hasn't been suggested yet
>>8021676
>tesseracts
oh shit anon, my lsd halucinations all involved tesseracts
post your link again pls its dead
>>8021558
Brion Gysing - The Process
>>8028071
Acid is the fun sunshine psychedelic.
Dmt is the surpassingly beautiful psychedelic.
Shrooms are the scary introspective psychedelic.
I love this thread.
>>8028488
acid is all sci-fi crazy time transdimensional insanity
shrooms are earthy but also outer-spacey. They feel alive
dmt is the root back to the center of everything
>>8028525
Yes I agree, yet one can say the exact opposite for every one of those "drugs" and it won't change the validity of the statement
>>8027795
>pssst.... hey kiddo.... there's DRUGS and SEX in this book
>"My good friend Billy Burroughs was the the civil rights march with me"
>"AND THEN JAMES JOYCE SHOWED UP LOL"
>clever narrative style
Kill yourself
>>8027559
Maybe take something psychedelic before posting
>>8027877
Everything that isn't The Navidson Report isnfucking trash
>>8028488
>>8028525
Kill yourselves
>>8028525
>>>8028488
>acid is all sci-fi crazy time transdimensional insanity
>
>shrooms are earthy but also outer-spacey. They feel alive
>
>dmt is the root back to the center of everything
Acid is all day-to-day, really brings you to sanity.
Shrooms are from outer-space, but ground you in that natural feel.
DMT is the most far-out definitely out there.
>>8028409
Here you go. Still unedited from last time I posted.
http://pastebin.com/migrUWyq
>>8028582
I'm the anon who asked why you mentioned Borges & I've taken LSD 27 times. You, however, seem like you've taken it one time too many.
Trapped in the eternal return. Help.
DMT is ancient
Psilocybin is modern
Acid is postmodern
>>8029147
>exactly 27 times
lol. Do you not find Borges to be "trippy"?
>>8028168
vurt is fantastic
beatniks were degenerates who tainted the true communist spirit
>>8028525
>>8028728
I see what you mean by that. Acid is kind of metallic and electric. But it leaves me with a great feeling at the end
Shrooms feels like there are alien worms in brain, and is the most psychedelic in terms of changing thought.
Dmt is the least psychedelic. You go places and see things and meet things in ways that you don't with other psychedelics, but you remain yourself througout. Your mind never turns to goop, and you don't struggle afterwards like with shrooms. You can open your eyes at any time and be fully capable and rational and yourself. It's just when you close your eyes that time dilates and you go places.
>>8028149
Every would-be psychonaut should read Pendell. Those books are an invaluable resource to the human race and his writing them was a massive achievement. Can't praise them enough really. The second one didn't have quite enough poet asides, but I guess that's to be expected with speed.
Hesse - Steppenwolf
Also, in any of these threads, I don't think I've ever seen salvia divinorum mentioned. Anyone else experienced with it? It's considered the most powerful naturally-occuring hallucinogen on the planet, and can be anywhere from a fun high to trippy to full-blown OBE/some kind of astral projection-inducing depending on the dose.
It's a strange drug in that (from what I remember hearing/reading), the vast majority of people who experience a moderate to strong dose are basically scared to ever do it again because of how powerful an experience it really is. Most amazing afterglow, though, and I really enjoyed even the most intense experiences I had. Probably would be my favorite if the trips didn't last only about 5 minutes max. For reference, I've done salvia probably 5 or 6 times, mushrooms a few times, acid about 5 or 6 times, 25-i once (unintentionally, sold to me as acid of course), 2C-i 2C-b and 2C-e once each (i think twice with one of them, can't remember which), DMT once (didn't get the full experience though as my friend started freaking out and my trip immediately dissipated as i worked to get him back), mdma something like 8-10 times, ketamine a bunch of times, and more NO2 than I care to remember. Might be some things I'm leaving out, but that's roughly my experiences with psychedelics.
>>8030873
Salvia is a whipcrack of weirdness.
I felt myself turn into everything I could see and feel and I fell apart into 1000 minds inside of everything and they all laughed at me because I was so wrong about everything, because this is the way things really are and always have been and always will be
And I turned into a table. Having wooden thoughts is uncomfortably splinterish
>>8031154
What is with turning into shit with salvia? I turned into a rhinoceros roaming on a plain and a former best friend turned into an apple who had slices repeatedly taken out of him in time with the beat of the music he was listening to at the time (which apparently resulted in a euphoric, orgasmic feeling with each slice). With all those other experiences I mentioned in the preceeding post, only once with lsd and once with a stupidly, dangerously heavy dose of one of the 2Cs (i wanna say 2C-b?) did I have anything even remotely similar.
>>8027059
>Burroughs is a disgusting hack
Burroughs shits better prose than you ever will.
>>8028071
You may not be taking a large enough dose
>>8031154
Salvia is the most intense high I think. Even compared to k-holing on L with ice cold fattie balloons salvia is ridiculous. It terrifies me but I've smoked it probably 3 dozen times becaus I love dissociatives and there is nothing else like it.
>>8031237
Funny you would phrase it that way considering naked lunch is primarily about prolapsed musty assholes
>>8021951
took me a while to remember where i'd read that
Ernst Jünger - Annäherung
Dint know if there is a english version. Also everything else from Jünger besides Stahlgewitter. He was taking lots of drugs and it shows in his literature, its beautiful.
>>8021633
That's about psychedelics though, rather than being psychedelic.
>>8028159
that will be terrifying dumbass
