>share your hate for penguin
why, i'm not a memeing retard

>>7975207
Penguin is really bad tho if you are planning to read anything about the classical world or philosophy in general, because they primarily use outdated translations (copyright expired) so they can cheaply mass produce it.

>>7975221
I'm reading their Lucian right now. The translation is very good and the notes are very helpful. Also The Tain they published had a very good translation by Ciaran Carson.

In terms of original Greek works (i.e. Plato and Aristotle), I agree though. Hackett, Focus, and Modern Library are much better

>>7975221
>Penguin is really bad tho if you are planning to read anything about the classical world or philosophy in general, because they primarily use outdated translations (copyright expired) so they can cheaply mass produce it.

This is absolute nonsense. For Greek and Latin works, Penguin generally uses translations commissioned for the series, and many of these are revised or replaced. In recent times, for example, they've published important new translations of Ovid's Metamorphoses (David Raeburn), Lucretius (AE Stallings), Lucian (Keith Sidwell), Vitruvius (Richard Schofield), Herodotus (Tom Holland), and Apollonius of Rhodes (Aaron Poochigian). Robert Fagles' Homer was originally published by the Penguin imprint Viking.

>>7975203

There's a recent Annals for Oxford World's Classics by JC Yardley, and an older Histories by WH Fyfe and DS Levene.

Avoid the old Penguin Annals - it's by Michael Grant, who is not always the most reliable translator.

>>7975221
if you want to be a meming retard, at least try to present facts that seem truthful.