What makes a book YA?
If women like it, it's ya. If coloreds like it, it's garbage. If both like it, it's propaganda.
>>7949560
embarassing
>>7949549
If it panders to dumb teenagers.
>>7949560
>if women like it, it's ya
Shoulda stopped there m8
characters are young adults
moral is incredibly nebulous and feel good
however some edge and 'real issues' are thrown in ham-fistedly so people think theyre reading a real book and go 'wow this is deep'
espouses the most commonly held views on life and socioeconomics as if they are new and still steeped in misunderstanding and derision
>>7949549
If you ask the average teenage girl if they have ever heard of the book and they have
Escapist shlock.
>>7949549
It just is dude. They are books for young adults.
when you're a teen you think of things differently and YA books pander to that.
He writes about teenage problems
>>7949839
/thread
>>7949839
That's a pretty terrible definition desu. I get what you're trying to say, but we're trying to give an at least moderately rigorous definition of YA books here.
Cheerios
>>7949549
It's written by a man who never had sex in high school, and now is typing up the fantasies he had at that time. He also puts them in the hands of teenage girls, and probably masturbates to that thought every night.
>>7950058
That's awful.
>>7950097
Before that section, when the awkward nerdy main character (who do you think he's based on?) takes his penis out, the girl makes a comment about how big it is, then after the blowjob, he makes out with a completely different dream girl.
>>7949549
It targets the mind of a teenager, in that it tries to imitate adult qualities through childish behavior. Teenagers are children who are transitioning to adulthood.
>>7950058
Has he ever interacted with another human being?
>>7950197
Of course.
>>7950058
lmao
Give John Green a break, his books are shit but he's not that terrible of a person.
>>7950213
>writes porn for children
>complains about how older works aren't feminist enough, and in his educational series, which is played in public schools, he leaves information out of The Odyssey to make it sound more sexist than it really is
>thinks The Catcher in the Rye is "disturbingly misogynistic."
>is a socialist, pic related
>a beta cuckold in general
>white knights for groups of people that I'm not convinced really exist, pic coming up
>>7950213
>>7950231
>>7949821
Though clearly coming from a place of disdain, I would say this is pretty accurate.
YA is also almost always modern. YA is hardly ever set in a time that feels anachronistic to our own. Even Hunger Games feels like an alternate, dystopic present, though it is supposedly set in a post-apocalyptic society.
>>7950240
>YA is hardly ever set in a time that feels anachronistic to our own
YAs can't relate to times not their own anyway.
>>7950234
that's accurate though desu
>>7950234
That's actually kind of good. Childish advice for children but nonetheless, good.
>>7950234
I hate to be the person who needlessly picks away at stupid arguments, but by saying this he implies the only boys you don't want to date are those who don't like smart girls.
Hence every boy who likes smart girls is dating material
>>7950270
He's speaking to a youngish teenager probably, I don't know if you know many teens but they're really terrible these days
>>7950247
You must have been a shitty reader in high school
>>7950287
Oh, I know. It just seems like most of the smart ones would know this already, and he's not helping anyone, he just wants to look like a brave intellectual standing up for intelligent ladies.
>>7950231
>raise taxes to pay for darkies, space, and schoolmarms
Thank fuck Greeney boy is never getting elected
>>7950285
Yes, he is suggesting that serial rapist-murderers who like smart girls are dating material.
john green's books are nuanced and worth reading.
fight me, every single one of you.
>>7949560
Moby Dick is very well liked by African Americans.
>>7950315
My dick is liked by women of the African American persuasion
YA doesn't have any ambiguity or subtext, it also doesn't really have any themes other than "friendship is good" and "thinly veiled nazi allegories remind me of my parents!" YA fiction also tends to have black and white morals.
Literature engages readers. It hints at things. It leaves clues. There are things to discover. Things to interpret. You and someone else can read the same book but have very different experiences. You may notice a theme that they missed and vice versa. Also, it's not written at a fifth grade reading level. Most importantly though, real literate examines uncomfortable truths.
YA literature will tell you friendship is the most powerful thing in the world. Literature will tell you friends are fickle.
Why is John Green the face for this thread? Also YA can be decent. Holes holds up fairly well.
>>7950327
go fuck yourself
>>7949560
So the Iliad, Sanderson and Gene Wolfe are Garbage because I'm coloured.
>>7950411
> the Iliad, Sanderson and Gene Wolfe are Garbage
>I'm coloured.
leave
>>7950430
>leave
Been here since 09. You can't make me
>>7950234
John Green not being able to explain an argument using his sock puppets is an accurate metaphor for his entire career.
>>7949549
if the main character is a teenager and the book was written after 1990, then its a safe bet its for teenagers
as easy to read as possible. Also, the more shallow the better. Don't write like Heminway, you won't sell. The whole fucking point of writing YA is to taking adventages of the stupidity of young people, so you must be a pedophilia too.
>>7949549
Also, instead of writing about a whale. You can write about a dick of the size of a whale. That will sell.
>>7950270
if your girlfriend is smarter than you, that means one thing exactly: you're not smart enough
>>7950411
what color?
Young adults and 45 year old women buy it abd adhere to it's annoying subcultures.
>>7950058
>ywn be Crest Complete
>>7950108
This to be honest
>>7950231
Why the fuck does he want to cut infant mortality in half? Does he not realize that we already have a ridiculous overpopulation problem, especially in countries with such high infant mortality rates? NASA is decent because we're fucked if we don't get off this planet. Paying teachers more is a useless idea because the legitimately good teachers are in it to teach, not to make a ton of money. Give teachers high salaries and you'll just get a bunch of try-hard Asians and upper-middle-class white kids in the field that don't actually have any passion for what they do, like you have with doctors.
Also, wtf is he even talking about with the 60k average?
https://www.google.com/search?q=teacher+median+salary&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>>7950058
holy shit this is so bad lmao, seriously fuck the general populace, this is what they're turning literature into by buying this shit and ranting about how great it is
>>7950471
nice
>>7950411
Why you lying though, niggers don't read lmao
>>7952367
>black people are the only non-white race
>>7952382
Does it matter? Only whites and Asians are human anyways, strictly speaking biologically and objectively.
>>7952392
Asians are still coloured though.
They're yellow.
>>7952635
They're off-white.
>>7950058
>this reached the NY times best sellers list for children's paperback
>>7950201
He hit that. He's consistently snorkeling in that ilk
>>7950058
>Never have I so wanted to be Crest Complete
>>7950319
the last time you saw a black woman was when your mom took you to the DMV
>>7949549
Its target demographic.
