What works of H.P Lovecraft should I start with?
Rats in the Walls, Dunwich Horror, Shadow Over Innsmouth
Check out Wayne June readings of some Lovecraft audiobooks if you like audiobooks
Avoid Librivox
John Barth Lost in the Funhouse
Anyone who posts the meme poem is a newfag.
>>7839632
what's the meme poem?
>>7839756
Probably the creation of niggers one. Anons get pretty upset when you mention he was a racist.
He was a racist btw.
I started with Call of Cthulu, but it really doesn't matter where you start
>>7840007
That makes me more likely to read his work.
>>7839632
When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Iove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.
>>7839478
At the Mountains of Madness is the one I liked the best. Hard to explain what it is about it that is intriguing, but it gives me a unique feeling. A kind of awe or dreamlike state I would say.
>>7840106
In Jove's* fuck
Boring repetitive prose. Very lame stories. Overrated.
Don't read any of his work
>>7840122
Nigger detected
>>7840122
Faggot.
>>7840106
the prisoners all proved to be men of a very low, mixed-blooded, and mentally aberrant type. Most were seamen, and a sprinkling of negroes and mulattos, largely West Indians or Brava Portuguese from the Cape Verde Islands, gave a colouring of voodooism to the heterogeneous cult. But before many questions were asked it became manifest that something far deeper and older than negro fetishism was involved. Degraded and ignorant as they were, the creatures held with surprising consistency to the central idea of their loathsome faith.
Yeah, H.P. Lovecraft was a racist.
C.S. Lewis was a racist as well?
Apparently when discussing a clear demarcation between good and evil he can be quoted to say "imagine they have seen a rigid demarcation between black and white people."
>>7840007
No shit he was a racist, and he was exceptionally racist even for the time he lived in. Doesn't make him a less valuable author.
>>7840218
hahaha I love this guy.
What was the purpose of making the cat "nigger man"? What did he mean by this?
>>7840301
He was also a cuckold. Let's not forget
>Implying Lovecraft's racism was anything but hilariously based
reddit pls go
>>7840361
I remember thinking racism was funny, in middle school.
>>7840403
watching self righteous faggots get assblasted on the internet will never not be funny
>>7840267
In many cultures, a black cat is seen as an ominous symbol of bad luck. I think Lovecraft was trying to make a commentary about American blacks, and blacks in general, and the kind of luck that white societies could expect with any attempts at integrating them.
>>7840413
This post screams immaturity.
>>7840423
Yes, yes. You've shown all the users on the anonymous anime imageboard just how grown up and mature you are. We're all very impressed.
>>7840428
I'm just sayin'...
>>7840433
Please consider browsing /r/books. It is a mature discussion forum for mature book lovers such as yourself. :^)
>>7840403
I remember thinking racism was unfunny, in college.
>>7840438
Thanks for the offer, but I must respectfully refuse :)
>>7840445
What a shame, it's a much more civil place. You could have browsed it with your wife's son.
>be whiny faggot who gets upset over words
>someone says a word that upsets me
>my tiny liberal pea brain: "DO WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY WE CAN USE TO BAN FREE SPEECH WHILE STILL CLAIMING WE DEFEND IT?"
>no, fuck!
>my tiny liberal pea brain: "CAN WE WHIP UP SOME MOB JUSTICE TO GET HIM FIRED OR OTHERWISE PERSECUTED AND CLAIM IT'S STILL FREE SPEECH?"
>fuck!! can't do that either!!!!
>my asspain has now built up to critical levels
>my tiny liberal pea brain: "CODE RED, VENT ALL ASSPAIN, BUT ACT SANCTIMONIOUS ABOUT IT SO THEY THINK WE'RE NOT ASSPAINED"
>"I was racist too.. when I was 5 :)... ;) only 5 years olds find racism funny.. immature, stupid fucking 5 year olds.. I'm not mad though"
>>7840423
>>7840403
>>7840445
>>7840456
What do you mean? Why is anyone on 4chan?
>>7840468
You came to a website that loves to trigger people like you. Why not go to reddit? You're clearly new.
>>7840328
ah the thinking man fetish!
>>7840473
>says the one who is currently being 'triggered'
>>7840490
I'm just surprised you're here.
>>7840473
I'm not even triggered though.
>>7839478
Start with The Colour Out of Space, then stop.
HE IS NAZI AND HE IS POO POO HEAD AND BIGOT RREEEEEEE READ MY FEMINISTPOSTMODERNNOVELLA THAT IS YET TO BE PUBLISHED INSTEED.
>inb4 "all caps"
>inb5 triggered Tumblr
>inb6 "(you)"
Honestly I enjoyed the super racist ones the most, like Horror at Red Hook and The Shadow Over Innsmouth.
>>7840688
Yeah same. Silly racist words make me lol.
>>7840686
(YOU)
>>7840688
Innsmouth is the best story about race mixing I've ever read.
>>7840686
Are you okay??
>>7840007
>Anons get pretty upset when you mention he was a racist.
> He was a racist btw.
>>>
>Anonymous 03/22/16(Tue)19:34:44 No.78400
Spent his childhood at home reading Alan Poe
He started to be less and less xenophobic at the end of his life, maybe cause of his correspondences
>>7839478
One of the first novel I read was the color that fell from the sky but as >>7840015
says, it doesn't really matter where you start, he always uses the same construction and even wrote a little guide about how to write fantastic stories about untold horrors.
>>7839478
Just grab tales from your library, they are all short as fuck
>>7840403
>>7841070
I've forgotten where I am. Where am I?!
>>7840106
still makes me laugh desu
Anyway. What's the best way to obtain his complete works? I saw a book on amazon that had everything (minus poems or something) but the reviews said that that version it had a lot of typos, so I was wondering if there was a better one.
Is this collection good?
Contains:
1. The Call of Cthulhu
2. The Shadow Over Innsmouth
3. The Shadow Out of Time
4. At the Mountains of Madness
5. In the Walls of Eryx
6.The Colour Out of Space
7.The Dunwich Horror
8.The Outsider
9.The Rats in the House
10.The Music of Erich Zann
11.The Picture In the House
12.The Statement of Randolph Carter
>>7842537
All the essentials seem to be in it.
>>7842537
I have not read In the Walls of Eryx, it doesn't strike me as an essential tale.
"The Rats in the House" should be titled "The Rats in the Walls". Is that a variant title?
It's a fine enough collection, but should at least also be accompanied with "Dagon", "The Shunned House", and perhaps "The Whisperer in Darkness". The last mentioned is basically Call of Cthulhu in a more linear, urban setting.
Is the Library lf America Lovecraft any good?
>>7840098
DAMN YOU SURE ARE EDGY
My absolute favorite is "Pickman's Model." It's short, gives you that otherworldly chill Lovecraft is known for, and really just feels like a really good campfire ghost story.
Call of Cthulhu is a fine read if you have the patience for reading a report within a report within someone else's testimony and keep everything straight.
Beyond that, I mostly like his shorter works, like "Cold Air" and "In The Vault." "The Thing on the Doorstep" is another good one IMO.
>>7842582
Lmao,the translated title was the "rats in the walls"
I don't know why it's fucked up in english.
>You'll never be able to discuss Lovecraft without people interjecting about racism
Also "Herbert West Reanimator" wasn't that bad, I expected much worse.
>>7842666
Bump
Start with the deeps.
But seriously I'd say start with the Call of Cthulhu, then read the Dunwich Horror, Erich Zann, Color out of Space and Shadow out of Time.
Or just grab whatever story compilations your local library has, just avoid August Derleth, his version of the Mythos involves heroes brandishing the elder sign at monsters like crosses against vampires in a Hammer film.
>>7841046
>He started to be less and less xenophobic at the end of his life, maybe cause of his correspondences
Probably due to his friendship with Robert E. Howard.
>>7843030
Oh please, you can't talk about Lovecraft without mentioning his racism because it was a central part of some of his stories.
>>7843641
What's the best collected edition?
>>7844147
>Oh please, you can't talk about Lovecraft without mentioning his racism because it was a central part of some of his stories.
fuck off
If you talk about the author instead of their work you're not discussing literature, you're gossiping politics
>>7844147
>because it was a central part of some of his stories.
It absolutely isn't, people get this confused about Lovecraft, It's about bad breeding, or more particularly bad blood.
>>7844290
Barnes & Noble's H.P. Lovecraft The Complete Fiction.
>>7844303
>If you talk about the author instead of their work you're not discussing literature
But the racism is in the work?
Snails of the dark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pWJ5LX82D8
>>7844416
is this bait?
>>7840603
>Kipling wrote the white man's burden
>implying white mans burden wasn't a real thing
>>7840448
why is this so funny
>can't discuss Lovecraft without circlejerking about racism
He was a straight up racist, much more extreme than many of his contemporaries, but that shouldn't detract from his stories, or indeed his political beliefs. He was an old-school conservative worried about the decline of Western civilization to the forces of unbridled capitalism and mechanization. He believed firmly in the aristocracy throughout most of his time because he thought that the values of civilization that he cherished were best kindled in such a system. It is interesting to note that he later in his life turned towards socialism as a system he thought would be more effective in such an endeavour. Lovecraft wasn't the intellectual simpleton as he is sometimes thought to be and it is a shame that his racialism sticks out in the way it does. Although the discussion is partly derailed by the usual
>HE SAID THE N-WORD WAHWAHWAHWAHWAH
As for editions, I enjoyed the recent New Annotated H. P. Lovecraft edited by Leslie Klinger. Get that and just read it from one end to the next, then purchase a complete tales set if you find him to your liking. Or invest in the works of some of his followers. Penguin has released some great editions of Thomas Ligotti, Clark Ashton Smith and Lord Dunsany recently, for example.
>>7845845
good post
>>7844147
I haven't read all his work, but I honestly didn't think his apparent racism was anything other than a byproduct of the time
>>7839478
Just read The Call of Cthulhu nigga
lol it's not hard nigga
>>7840448
Good job.
>>7842582
the walls is pretty gud, do read it.
it was co-written thou, and its scifi actually.
>>7840249
>that terrible technique
no wonder the germans did so badly at the berlin olympics jesus
What do you guys think about his prose poems, Azathoth, Nyarlathotep and Ex Oblivione?
Has any of you read Fungi from Yuggoth?
>>7845748
No?
>>7845845
>It is interesting to note that he later in his life turned towards socialism as a system he thought would be more effective in such an endeavour
Ah, yes, the fabled "Hierarchism socialist" myth perpetuated by Joshi; a failed Indian author who insistently tries to drag Lovecraft to his flavour of the week politics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSXbkqRDYIg
Why does Lovecraft attract illiterate weirdos?
>>7844381
Lol right its totally not racist. "Bad blood" means non white blood anon.
>>7846332
Or you know, all those other times where it doesn't.
>>7846334
What the fuck is the difference between "bad blood" and "bad breeding"
The guy is literally endorsing aristoractic eugenics either way.
>>7846339
>bad breeding
Inbreeding, miscegenation etc.
>bad blood
Supernatural or genetic defects etc.
>>7846334
The character theorizes over what forigen blood has tainted the people of Innsmouth. Yes it does turn out to be monsters from deep in the ocean but his initial thoughts on the matter are that they were tainted by forigen savages. Obviously a person would never assume something was monsters or aliens but I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't think "they must have race mixed that's why they're messed up!" Either, unless they were racist which he was.
His stories are great, I'm not trying to detract from his work, but he was racist and it is in his stories.
>>7846251
That guy has published several books, though.
>>7846350
Anon that's not what he means and you know it.
He was a great author but also a great racist.
>>7839478
nah
>>7845898
This has also been my impression. I don't mean to make excuses for him but it was a pretty prevalent thought that race mixing was just scientifically speaking totally bad for you and other races were inferior.
I think it's a bit silly and narrow-minded to say he was racist unless you really want to warn someone unaware of common beliefs back then, like a child.
>>7846363
What? That's literally the difference in the books, for example in The Rats in the Walls the character Delapore is especially wellbred, yet spiritually tainted.
Read the necronomicon.
Who /Howard/ here?
Probably my favorite author. No joking.
>>7840244
>exceptionally racist even for the time he lived in
Maybe for his street in New England, but far less so than America in general.
>>7846766
I read pic related, and while I like all the weird fiction stuff involving necromancers and lost civilizations, the writing was pretty schlocky. Is Conan better?
>>7846791
The best Conan stories are his best works and written extremely well. There will always be a slight sense of shlockyness, but to me that is more endearing. Also in my opinion there is a sense of melancholy about the extreme brutality of the world he created in his best Conan stories, his style feels more relatable to me than someone like H.P Lovecraft, who was a more high class person born in the city, so I have affinity to the barbarism depicted in his works.
However, he had to feed himself. So there are a lot of shlocky Conan tales involving big breasted women and such, and that is where the stereotype comes from. He had to get the front cover with that kind of stuff. I still enjoyed them a lot though, they are so entertaining.
The King Kull stories are nice too. HP Lovecraft liked those a lot because they could get pretty weird.
>>7839492
>tfw want to name your cat Nigger-man but too scared someone will find out
