Fairy tale Edition
Recommendation Charts:
>Fantasy
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>Sci-Fi
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>What are you reading right now?
>What is your favorite fairy tale or re-telling of such?
>What is the most comfy book you've read?
>What is the most arousing scene you've read in SFF?
>>7826606
>>What are you reading right now?
Titus Groan, about 80% finished.
>>What is your favorite fairy tale or re-telling of such?Croatian Tales of Long Ago
>>What is the most comfy book you've read?
The Man Who was Thursday as well as the folk tales of Gogolj
>>What is the most arousing scene you've read in SFF?
Redhead sex in simulator in Hyperion when I was 14.
I work long hours standing doing pretty easy shit so I listen to audio books.
Now that I have explained why I use them do you guys think that "The Once and Future King" Is a good listen? They have all the books in one on audible.
>>7826606
>>7826703
The guy that suggested Red Riding thanks, it was great.
Wish more books were written like that.
>>7826730
It's missing something....
Needs a symbol. I propose a cauliflower to represent GRI.
>>7826876
But it's the only one we've got. John C. Fedora and Meme Wolfe only go so far.
Gardens of the Moon
I'm quite fond of the Witcher's take on Slavic folk tales.
Hobbit
I don't remember. Tigana had some good ones though.
WE NEED MORE MEMES
>>7826991
Space Raptor Butt Invasion? It's the book that will bring SJWs and Puppies together.
Is grossmans magician series worth reading or are they as contrived as they seem? I have gormenghast, gardens of the moon and black company waiting to start, opinions on the best out of those?
Any sci-fi with hot furry girls?
>>7827042
Star Wars novelizations
>>7827042
Cordwainer Smith had catgirls in some of his stories. He might have invented catgirls actually. Check out The Ballad of Lost C'Mell.
>>7827042
>>7827042
>>7827081
Japs almost certainly invented catgirls (the obakemono type, not hurrdurr nyaa bs)
>>7826606
what is lit's opinion on Mistborn series and the Malazan series?
>>7827292
Middling, but you could definitely do worse.
>>7827298
both? rec something that reads better
>>7827292
Malazan is some of the best fantasy I've read.
Mistborn is pretty great but that second book is shit. Stormlight on the other hand is brilliant.
>>7827620
malazan is on my to read list. any favorite completed series i should check out? It doesnt have to be strictly fiction in general
>>7826606
>>What are you reading right now?
The Dispossessed
>What is the most comfy book you've read?
Hobbit still wins that one
>What is the most arousing scene you've read in SFF?
Moneta and Kassad in Hyperion
I'm not sure there's much in the way of story telling or character in this but it might be blowing my mind with concepts, more so that it's from the early 90's.
This is probably the hardest, as in difficult, sci-fi I've ever read. The author runs narratively on his premi through the intro,gives the reader a grounding in the middle, and then turn's the whole thing into a textbook on humanity's mis-relation with other sentient forms.
Anyone got anything to say about Egan? Cus I'm very lost somehow very impressed.
>>7827629
Farseer
Liveship Traders (the basic plot setup for this sounds incredibly stupid, but trust me, it's very good)
Book of the New Sun
Black Company
>>7826846
Badly?
>>7826991
>Sanderson is anime
This is the best summary of his books I've read.
>>7826991
>that giantdad in well what is it pose
Every time
Can we cut or replace the "gay" in gay, rape and incest? Rape and incest are great, but I will not tolerate any faggots!
I have a huge boner for Druss the Legend, Captain of the Axe, and Drenai stuff in general.
>What are you reading right now?
The Cold Commands.
>What is your favorite fairy tale or re-telling of such?
The Seven Ravens.
>What is the most comfy book you've read?
Probably one of the Discworld Witches books.
>What is the most arousing scene you've read in SFF?
Can't say I've read much that was supposed to be arousing but the sex scenes between Gil and Seethlaw in the Steel Remains were pretty good.
this may be the most autistic request ever but is there a book that accurately depicts dwarves and mining?
I live in a coal mining region, we have those huge mine waste heaps everywhere because, you know, you don't just mine pure metal and coal out of the earth, you also have a lot of waste material and it needs to go somewhere.
Around a dwarven fortress there should be shitloads of piles of that and it drives me crazy that most dwarven fortresses are just shown as being inside a mountain and around it everything is pristine nature and therefor you won't be able to find them if they are supposed to be secret yadda yadda.
>>7826606
>What are you reading right now?
The Dragons Of Babel by Michael Swanwick, highly recommended. Severely underrated author imo.
>What is your favorite fairy tale or re-telling of such?
The story-within-the-story in Wind Through The Keyhole.
>What is the most comfy book you've read?
The first few chapters of Fellowship Of The Ring are the very definition of comfy.
>What is the most arousing scene you've read in SFF?
The group sex scene in Swanwick's Bones Of The Earth was "weirdest boner" tier. A group of young paleologists get accidentally lost in the late Jurassic Period because their "time machine" breaks on arrival, and decide to set up camp, study the environment and fuck each others' brains out daily.
>>7827036
Black Company is one of my favourites.
>>7828310
Write it, I would read that.
>looks like THIS
>lowers himself to writing sci fi
Really?
>>7826606
>What are you reading right now?
Still The Stars my Destination
>What is the most comfy book you've read?
The Hobbit or the first chapters of The Fellowship of the ring or Giftwish
>>7828449
he will look like this in a few years
>>7828344
I really tried to get into the first Black Company book, but his writing style is so quick and minimal with no descriptions of anything. It seems like he wrote a rough draft of ideas for a fantasy and then just published it.
>>7828449
He looks like a fuccboi, what are you talking about?
>>7827918
That's not how memeing works. If you want it, then make it and press your case.
>>7828411
This. I have a craving for books that cover more about fantasy lands than the fightin' and the kissin'.
is there a book where Hitler gets cast into time and space and awakens in a fantasy world, only to take over the aryan-equivalent race and conquer the world with his superior knowledge in drawing and dog handling?
>>7828898
Ok, from this day and henceforth it shall be called:
Lolis, rape and incest.
On that note, what books have cute seductive lolis? I'm guessing it doesn't exist because SJW would go crazy over here.
>>7829283
>loli, rape and incest
A thousand times better. We're invaded by fags who keep shilling their degeneracy I swear.
>>7829292
>gays are degenerate
>but pedophilia isn't
I sometimes feel like I'm trapped in a postmodern novel T B H
>>7828449
Are you saying he looks particularly attractive? He's got a nice nose, eye color and haircut, that's about it.
>>7826606
>What are you reading right now?
just finished a collection of Conan stories by Robert E. Howard
>What is your favorite fairy tale or re-telling of such?
Tangled
>What is the most comfy book you've read?
Shogun by James Clavell
>What is the most arousing scene you've read in SFF?
Conan has sex with the Queen of the Black Coast in front of her entire crew.
Does anyone have any recommendations of books similar to the Conan stories? Gor seems like a good place to start.
I liked the gay, rape, loli, and incest of the Prince of Nothing series.
>>7829320
Wanting to have sex with a male is degenerate, wanting a woman as a life partner is degenerate.
Such is life.
>>7829320
3D children are disgusting, but lolis are heaven.
You can't be straight and not want to fuck the shit out of this.
>>7829331
>Does anyone have any recommendations of books similar to the Conan stories?
was it the complete chronicles of conan you read? because if you didn't, then you haven't read all of them. also there are other writers than howard who wrote conan books but most of them are average to absolute garbage.
Supposedly those written by Robert Jordan aren't that bad though.
Otherwise I'd say read Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser. just pick up The First Book of Lankhmar and The Second Book of Lankhmar and you're all set.
If one was to only read one Discworld novel, which one should it be?
>>7829427
Someone will say Small Gods, but I'd go with Night Watch. Maybe Thief of Time or Soul Music.
>>7829427
Mort, Hogswatch or Thief of Time
I currently have 'VIP' status on a private tracker so if you guys need an eBook that you can't find elsewhere just let me know and I'll upload it to mega.
I got myself the retail Latro series of Wolfe which wasn't on libgen with perfect formatting and all, so that's pretty cool.
i want to write a book about a gay necromancer.
is there anything i should consider/read befiore doing so? any suggestions as to what i should include?
tyvm
>>7829545
What did you detest about it?
>>7829607
Add skeleton puns
>>7829653
Didn't like the characters, didn't like the "no plot", didn't like the random space adventures and I only chuckled once every 50 pages.
>>7829332
Is there anything Prince of Nothing can't do?
What is the /lit/ equivalent of Killer is Dead?
>>7829659
every discworld book has a proper plot and solution, most of them are very entertaining (I mean the plot, not the jokes), the only comparison you can do between discworld and hitchhiker's guide is that it's supposed to be comical.
God damn The Dragon Masters is good.
What are considered to be the 'best' Jack Vance stories? I always keep seeing mention about how this story or that story is good, but not his 'peak'. So what would be his peak?
>>7829707
Good to know. The interesting themes is what got me interested (Small Gods in particular, I like spins on mythology stuff). Would you say the humor is similar or completely different?
>>7829657
this is a good idea. thank you
What do you guys think of le Guin? I read the Earthsea books when I was 11 and they were GOAT, I don't think I've read any better fantasy since. Last year I picked up The Dispossessed and enjoyed that, and I've just ordered Left Hand of Darkness.
>>7829268
The Iron Dream is sort of like that, but the execution was terrible. Just read the Wikipedia synopsis.
>>7829283
Time Enough For Love and The Door Into Summer both have lolis. Thanks, Bob.
>>7829754
Her late 60s and early 70s work is great, despite her sometimes awkward prose. You basically have her best works though, just add Lathe of Heaven and maybe Winds 12 Quarters if you like short stories, and you're set.
>>7829731
Possibly Dragon Masters. Other strong candidates are the two Cugel novels, The Demon Princes, and the short story "Morreion" although I like all of the Rhialto stories. Some Languages of Pao partisans exist.
>>7829740
rather different to hitchhiker's guide
discworld's comedy is rather grounded in its own mythology, then a bit of popular culture and earth mythology while hitchhiker is just nonsensical mostly and I felt even in the first book already that he doesn't even know where to go with it.
>>7829664
Just from your pic, Snow Crash.
>>7829805
You're telling me no one in here played it?
>>7829816
I hadn't even heard of it until now
>>7829816
If they are they're not telling.
>>7829816
>suda51
That's because it plays terribly and his stories are nonsensical bullshit designed for teenagers or people who are tired of traditional games. There isn't exactly a big market for that.
>>7829857
What kind of weeb are you?
>>7829867
I love Biomega.
>>7829872
I don't really play video games
>>7829870
>it plays terribly
What? It's fantastic.
>his stories are nonsensical bullshit
It's exaggerated but not nonsensical bullshit and that's exactly what I like about it.
Seems to me like you're a total pleb.
>>7827292
>Malazan
it sucks. I don't know about mistborn, though.
How can a book be so good that the best characters are all hyper-intelligent spiders?
>>7830927
It's a mystery.
>>7830927
Is this a sarcastic question? I read the first few of the Shadows of the Apt, it was pretty ok, second tier writer stuff.
Is this true of The Mistborn series? Is he a feminist? Does it come through in the books?
Is he a militant atheist? He looks like one.
>>7832218
He's a Mormon who writes for teenagers.
>>7832218
>There's no getting by on beauty and flirtation here. Wit and and cunning is a much safer bet than the size of a female character's tits
Is is an alternate reality book?
Honest question, why does this general have so much Tolkien hate from people who've obviously never read Tolkien?
>>7832475
For the same reason people praise this manchild.
I can't be the only person who is a huge fan of the dresden files, can I? I have never seen any discussion about it
>>7832548
It's considered "reddit"
Personally I read the first two a while back and just dropped it
>>7832502
There's literally nothing wrong with enjoying Sanderson
>>7832502
He looks like my fat nerdy friend. That fucking hat, Jesus Christ. Fantasy/Sci-Fi authors are such a strange collection of people.
>>7832548
It's been a while since I read them, but I'm looking forward to the next one.
>>7832475
>most popular fantasy writer
>hasn't read
Are you pretending to be dumb? And he's just boring.
Opinion of Wheel of Time?
Prior to the Brandon Sanderson drivel
>>7832596
Can't really blame you for that, first two definitely are the worst in the series. Still I don't know why it's considered reddit
>>7832740
Sandersons part is the best. Not worth reading t hough.
You guys have any spaghetti stories, or just straight up weird experiences at SFF conventions, or just shopping for SFF books?
Mine are kinda tame but I'll post them anyways
>At local bookstore, casually browsing the fantasy selection
>Some really skinny dude with a big coat and a newsboy cap fucking sprints up next to me
>Looks around briefly, then quickly snatches the newest Powder Mage and books it away super quickly
And more recently
>Go to same book store, going to purchase some sci-fi
>Have to wait like 3 minutes because two ugly hipsters were making out in front of the shelves and was too beta to approach
>>7832548
Hopefully it's just you
>>7832613
But there is much wrong with actually thinking he's a good writer.
>>7832825
What is good?
>>7832797
>In one of those used bookstores with warren-like layout
>browsing SFF
>suddenly cornered by qt "Whatcha looking for anon?" (probably some more talking here)
>"Have you read Sanderson anon?" "n-no"
>hands me Mistborn "This is my favorite book, you should get it" "o-okay"
>"What do you like? Will you recommend me a book?"
>panic, hand her "The Pride of Chanur"
>"looks interesting anon, I'll have to read"
>somehow get away, trailing spaghetti.
>mfw I actually enjoyed Mistborn
>>7832830
That which in some way reflects the unmoved mover and moves towards the highest good
>>7832218
>read the paradox trilogy by rachel bach
>tough power armor mercenary knight woman protagonist with great action setpieces
>great universe with unique characters
>as the series goes on, it drifts further and further into a mix of Metroid:Other M and twilight-tier romance
fucking women can't control their sex organs, I just wanted space action.
>>7832895
Did you ever see qt again?
>>7832990
Nah, I live in the middle of nowhere. It's a 1.5-2 hour drive to get to that bookstore (only good one in the area at the time). I only went 2-3 times a year.
A similar incident happened recently (different used book store), but didn't get to the book recommendation stage as I wasn't physically prevented from escaping like the previous story.
I'm hopeless ;_;
>>7832218
Most of his major female characters are written the same. Related though: I do like the way Silence was written, purely because she wasn't the average "super strong amazing" woman we've all come to recognize in fiction.She was an older woman who gets practically shat on by one of the mild antagonists all through the novella and saves herself at the end by doing something retardedly dangerous but it was alright.
>>7832218
Despite being strong, they never come across like feminist 'girl power' characters. Likely because he tends to start them off weak in shitty situations and they actually fit the world they're in.
>>7833219
Literally self insert wish fulfillment shit though
>>7833228
Calm down anon.
What does that have to do with anything I just posted? I'm fairly sure his female characters are not self inserts just judging by the fact that most of them dont share a personality type.
>>7833251
I've not read anything else but Vin is 100% self insert and he's obviously catering to teen girls with her.
>>7833251
>most of them dont share a personality type
Are you serious? Warbreaker, Elantris, and TWOK all have exactly the same intelligent, snarky, playful, charming wish-fulfilment girl in them.
>>7829292
>We're invaded by fags who keep shilling their degeneracy I swear
How the meme started was some anon sad prince of nothing was filled with gay(bunch of buggering) rape and incest. Some anon took that and started to shill it, it caught on.
No one is advocating gays you cunt, if they did you would see steel remains shilled to hell in these generals.
Also
>>7829332
>I liked the gay, rape, loli, and incest of the Prince of Nothing series.
There was no loli in Prince of Nothing (at least not the first 3 books), if Kellhus fucked the kid he cucked out of Drusas (and made that tired whore believe was his) well I don't know of it.
I to laugh at all these fags scared of seeing the word gay.
>>7833469
>some anon [...] started to shill it
>no one is advocating gays
>hurr durr
>>7833515
>i'm too insecure to ignore shit on 4chens
I hope you know the more you openly show dislike for it, the more people are going to force(don't forget where you are), just ignore it and it will die on it's own.
This isn't tumbgay or redshit where you ask nicely and people help you out fagget.
Furthermore >>>/g/tf>>>/out/
Whats a good Sci-Fi book about supercomputers?
I've already read most of the obvious (2001, I have no mouth, the list goes on)
>>7833649
>just ignore it and it will die on it's own
>a boy falls in love with a girl etc.
Sure, retard.
>>7833661
the Nexus trilogy has a plotline from the perspective of an asian scientist who uploads herself into a quantum computer.
It's not the focus of the story though, it's essentially about telepathic brain nanites and the implications for humanity.
>>7833661
Neuromancer, For a Breath Do I Tarry, Fire Upon The Deep.
>>7833219
A lot of them abolish their "weaknesses" early on though. Take Vin for example:
>grows up on the streets
>no money
>has to guard herself 24/7 so she isn't raped
>story takes place
>dislikes nobles and such
>immediately loves balls and wants to go to all of them after her first one
Other reasons too but it's like a whole different character.
>>7833415
Shallan is a great example of that.
I've started The Claw of the Conciliator.
When the fuck are they starting to explain who the fuck this Jonas is and why aren't they searching for Dorcas?
>>7834119
Jonas is just this dude they met in the traffic jam. He's this chill cyborg sailor, total bro. Dorcas hooks back up with them a little later iirc.
>>7834119
Every BotNS volume ends with a little timeskip. He usually explains what happened in between, but sometimes it's just a never-explained cliffhanger that you have to have lunch with Eco or something to really, really understand.
>>7834119
>Book of the New Sun
>explain anything explicitly
come on sun
>>7834119
Never
>finished First Law books
>no fourth book
Reeeeee.
Oh well at least I found my favorite character of all time, Glokta. Wish the series was more about him and his adventures.
>>7826606
Death to steam punk please.
>>7835172
Read the standalones, they're great and have characters from the trilogy in them.
>>7835172
I think his new trilogy is based around Glotka
>>7835265
Please be real.
How the fuck do people write full length smut novels?
>>7835268
turns out its just a collection of short stories based on different characters with at least one being about Glokta
>>7835306
Just read the synopses. Sounds pretty great.
Is there any good sci-fi that's been written after 2010? There's lot of sci-fi awards, but there's barely anything new and fresh.
And sci-fi is about fresh ideas, right? Please, help.
>>7835476
Why? I doubt you've read everything out there.
>>7835476
I generally don't read stuff that recent because there hasn't been time for hype to die down.
I just picked up Corum: The Prince in Scarlet Robe and The Anubis Gate, never heard of either before but I was wondering what /sffg/ thinks of Fantasy Masterworks? They seem like a cool publisher. Also I passed on getting Gardens of the Moon, I just didn't feel like committing to another huge series just yet.
>>7832715
I rarely see any elaborate critique about him here, just rehearsings of tired old memes that were true about people who imitated Tolkien but not about Tolkien or the Legendarium themselves.
>>7835780
Just to be clear: Unless you have read the Silmarillion or otherwise found out about its contents you can't really criticize Tolkien correctly. All the biggest memes that every single bad fantasy writer has shoehorned into their work the last few decades and which people always associate with Tolkien are completely destroyed once you know the setting in any amount of detail. Specially so anything to do with the Elves, as people often get the hilariously incorrect impression that they're meant to be superior to Men.
>>7835788
>Unless you have read the Silmarillion or otherwise found out about its contents you can't really criticize Tolkien correctly
That's a retarded statement. And you don't need to make any elaborate write ups to be able to say that you dislike someone.
>>7835803
>It is retarded to say you can't criticize a setting unless you actually know the setting
Okay
Lord of the Rings was written far after the Silmarillion and contains next to no worldbuilding compared to it. You need to read it before trashing the Legendarium because the bulk of the Legendarium is there and only there.
>>7835812
No thanks, if an author can't grab my attention in the first couple hundred pages they go into the trash bin because they're bad. I'm not gonna read their entire collection and waste my time so I can meet your standards for memeing on the internet.
>>7835824
Then say "I am too ADHD to read one of the most influential and famous works of literature of the past century" instead of saying Tolkien is bad when you haven't even read him. You practically just admitted you didn't even read Lord of the Rings, which means you're exactly the kind of person I was talking about in the first post.
>>7835836
>some random people said it's good, so it must be!
I don't read him anymore because he's bad, pretty simple. I've read much slower books.
>>7835854
Fellowship of the Ring by itself is about 400 pages in most editions anon. LotR as a whole is about 2.5 larger, or about 3 times counting appendices. You just said Tolkien didn't catch your attention in the first few hundred pages, meaning that you read the beginning of the first volume of a single of his books and then went to angrily shitpost about how bad he is in the internet.
Tolkien is both more creative and more thoughtful than the vast majority of writers he's influenced.
Moreover, they glom onto the surface aspects of his work, the elves and the orcs and the magic. They couldn't care less about the deeper themes of the story, about Providence and faith and remaining virtuous in a declining world.
This is because most fantasy writers are meager minds.
>>7835874
You're the only one upset here because your favorite author got insulted. I didn't talk about Tolkien until you brought him up.
And I'm not seeing your point. If a book is bad, it's bad and I don't read it. I don't care if the last 50 pages are good when I could be reading books from a capable author that are good from the start.
>>7835910
I'm not upset and Tolkien is not my favorite author, I'm annoyed at you seemingly taking pride in your lack of patience and small attention span. But the discussion is getting nowhere and I'm going to eat breakfast, so I'll leave it now.
Looking back on it, the Name of the Wind wasn't so great.
I hadn't realized how much time Patrick spent just...dawdling, and how undeveloped his characters feel (they're just there to advance the plot and help/hinder Kvothe in some way)
What did you guys think?
>>7835923
>dude you've only eaten a chunk of the feces, why do you have such a small attention span? you have to eat it all, trust me the more you eat the better it gets!
>>7829607
exclude the gay character
>>7835941
Everyone who isn't a fucking idiot thinks the novel is shit, even if he enjoyed it.
>>7835947
See "something is shit because it didn't catch my attention" is a shit critique for any novel.
"Mum I don't like Moby Dick, it's not fun and it's too long"
Say that you didn't like him and be honest about having a Sanderson loving shit taste, don't argue that something is bad because it didn't cater to your pleb taste.
>>7836125
It didn't because it's awful. I'm glad for you that you like shit, but I'll pass.
>>7836153
Son not having an attention span doesn't make a book a bad read, it makes you a bad reader.
>>7836172
Nah, you clearly haven't read any slower works since you actually said that a work needs to catch your attention. That's definition of pleb.
And I didn't read Tolkien as a kid, I read him relatively recently, both Silmarillion and Children of Hurin which were fantastic.
>>7836182
>that a work needs to catch your attention. That's definition of pleb.
So you're admitting you hate Tolkien and find him uninteresting, and only read him because people told you to? Well good thing we came to a conclusion, because I agree.
>>7836182
Can you chill? A book can be slow but the little that it delivers can grab your attention or it just doesn't do that and then it's just a waste of time.
>>7832218
I am reading through the first books so my opinion might change later. In the book Vin is supposed to be 16 and isnt sexualized, just treated like anyother character. But this "review" reeks of a feminazi who automatically assumes that any dude is a sexual deviant and a creep. To me this is akin to white guilt, and her "opinion" of Sanderson is like saying "I hate and condone lynching niggers, but my good black friend Aaron is unlike them because he is cultured."
I dont know how anyone can read through goodreads review section without wanting to gouge their eyes out. In a platform about books, review books and discussing books the best way these cunts review books is apparently through tumblr gifs.
I'm currently impatiently waiting for the Thorn of Emberlain. That shit needs to come the fuck out already. Republic of Thieves ended in the best possible way.
>>7836270
Dude redheads lmao
>>7835270
more importantly, how do people read that stuff?
>>7835941
I loved the sympathy system he establishes. I always feel like the magic in fantasy is just there for "it ain't gotta explain shit", but here, it gets established rules and is used according to those rules.
Sadly refreshing.
>>7836106
surprisingly accurate statement.
You could call it a guilty pleasure.
>>7836833
I remember the last time I fell for the magic system meme (Mistborn). Is NOTWs actually interesting?
>>7836838
well, there are really two kinds of "magic" in this series.
One is more of a magitech physics thing, which works really well in my opinion. There are several occasions where it's used really nicely.
Sadly, the other kind is some bogus "talking to the elements"-thing that just does whatever.
I don't actually know the mistborn system though.
>The Last Days of New Paris by China Mieville (2016)
>Children of Earth and Sky by Guy Gavriel Kay (2016)
>The Witchwood Crown by Tad Williams (2016?)
>The Winds of Winter by GRRM (never)
any other upcoming fantasy novels I should be keeping an eye out for?
>>7836870
How do you track this shit? Not just fantasy but releases in general. A list somewhere with upcoming stuff by notable authors?
Someone told me to read the Black Company.
Loving it so far, even though Cook seems to have a bit of trouble establishing that sense of imminent danger.
Croaker kept lamenting the ongoing rebel siege at the end of the first book, but I just didn't feel like there was any real looming threat towards him or the company.
>>7836881
These are authors I've already read and enjoyed and every now and then I check Wikipedia to see if they've done or are doing anything new, which of course isn't a very reliable or efficient method.
Goodreads also gives you updates when an author you've read just released something new.
I'm at a loss when it comes to finding out when a newcomer releases something.
The Deed Of Paksenarrion by Elizabeth Moon
>>7836905
Ah, guessed so much. Goodreads has an upcoming books list but 99% of it are YA series so it's pretty hard to navigate..
Someone should make a list like that and filter that shit out.
>>7836897
For some reason he barely ever talks about members of the company dying during the battles even though hundreds of members die.
thoughts on last mortal bond ? anyone read it ?
>>7829607
How high are you going on the Gay, Sex and incest scales?
>>7829607
make it a classic young, naive and overambitious healer gone bad arc as the setup.
Like how he tried too hard to heal his tank BF and what came back was more than he bargained for.
Reminder that Wolfe presaged influx of cultural marxism in fantasy with Ascians.
>>7837235
It's not cultural Marxism, it's socialism which he ripps at even more in the Long Sun.
>>7829607
>MC is a prison technician in a futuristic world
>one day his sister is permanently paralyzed in a vehicle crash and wishes to commit suicide
>When going about his daily business, he notices that one of the prisoners says that he has the MC's best interests 'at heart'.
>Sister doesn't believe in miracles.
>The next day the prisoner who has an obscured face asks 'How is your sister going?' and MC is taken aback by how suddenly loud and clear the voice is. Prisoner offers him a way to resurrect people.
>Next day MC kills his sister and resurrects her with spine intact. Sister doesn't seem to recognise MC but does recognise MC's love.
>The next day the prisoner asks how the sister is doing and the MC replies that she's ok now but doesn't recognise him. The prisoner reassures him that this is a temporary state, in a male voice
>Next day MC doesn't recognise a young woman who he bumps into on the hospital. His love interest asks if he's ok and says that MC must have suffered a nasty shock. Then he re-introduces the MC's sister to him as his new girlfriend.
>At work, one of the MC's colleagues is strangled to death and the MC briefly sees a pair of eyes upon the roof before he resurrects the colleague.
>>7837353
>The prisoner asks sarcastically if he enjoys being the new messiah. MC doesn't reply.
>Next day MC stumbles upon a rape victim and kills the rapist and resurrects the victim who mistakes him for a murderer, but he can't remember how he got there.
>MC's days begin to fly by as a blur. He catches glimpses of the faceless prisoner, features of the hair etc. He ends up in jailed by the authorities because they don't know what to do with a terrorist and kills his jailer to get out. The people he rescued claims that he’s a god.
>MC’s love interest has been organising la resistance with his girlfriend and says he doesn’t recognise the MC anymore. MC is enraged and tries to kill the love interest but accidentally kills his sister in the process. MC says ‘that’s ok, I’ll just resurrect her.’ MC’s love interest calls him a fuck up who no one could ever love, so MC kills him too, claiming that a god should be impartial.
>Newly resurrected sister kills MC once her memories returns
>MC sees the inside of the double side of the mirror and sees that the prisoner has gone free, smiling and sauntering off, confident that he can win over the love interest from the MC’s sister.
>>7837235
how has """cultural Marxism""" invaded fantasy?
>>7837638
If you believe cultural marxism is right-wing paranoia, you wouldn't believe what we told you any more than if we told you Satan had invaded an epileptic. If you believe cultural Marxism is a left-wing conspiracy, you may have heard of Ancillary Justice and If You Were A Dinosaur, My Love and The Water That Falls On You From Nowhere. If you don't presently have an opinion, pick a side, the war's on its way.
>>7837283
Socialism has nothing to do with paroles impounding thought in tightly designed hugboxes.
>>7837767
it's really fascinating that fringe right-wing paranoia about "cultural marxism" relies on the same exact dialectical logic of assuming a "background" totality structuring all cultural production which can only be identified phenomenologically through its effects in that production, which Marxism employs vis-a-vis capitalism. it's even more fascinating that that totality for the right is jewish conspiracy, which, through the stereotypical signifying chain connecting jews to finance, is essentially a racial or ethnic recode of capitalism itself.
>>7838015
its funny how friend left-wing paranoia thinks everything is racist, but nigger do i really need to even say this?
>>7837283
Was Trivigaunte socialist? They seemed more totalitarian to me
>>7838044
why dont you freedomhaters get it? socialism is totalitarianism...its giving all the power to the government...stupid brainwashed cuscks
>>7838020
just so we're clear, you're saying that positing a global conspiracy among jews to propagate subliminal messages urging interracial sex to destroy the white race isn't racist? that's your position? because that's what the idea of cultural marxism revolves around. you'll note i haven't specifically made any normative moralistic statement about racial ideology, i am just calling it where i see it.
>>7838063
you really are a stupid nigger, go turn on the radio
>>7838069
oh in addition youre a pseudo intellectual . thought i should just come out and say it. stop using adjectives lovecraft
>>7838092
you mean that i believe the media is brainwashing the youth and making them promiscuous, small minded, materialistic, and useless to society? yes i do believe such.
>>7838105
with some qualification i basically agree with you. what i want to know is if you believe that there is a racial specificity to this media. unfortunately for "cultural marxism" scaremongers, they don't realize that marxism is precisely the tool for critiquing those mechanisms of media which propagate small mindedness, materialism (in the bad sense) and uselessness.
>>7837970
Really? Because that's what Orwell saw in it, and he shot people in the Spanish Civil War, although I'm sure your lived experience trumps his. You can say that socialism doesn't encourage its followers to parole thought, but then I could say Christianity doesn't encourage its followers to crusade, but that doesn't mean Christianity has nothing to do with crusading.
>>7838119
The problem I see with your racial perspective is that Jews are made up of several races, but tend to work towards their own interests in a nationalistic manner. So if you're asking if having Jew-colored skin makes you want to encourage race-mixing, then no. But if you're asking if those who identify as Jewish tend to be in control of Western media outlets, and have been using those to alter societal values that include endogamy, it doesn't look that silly anymore.
And you don't need a discredited 19th-century economic prophet to critique modernity. You really don't.
>>7827824
I read the Farseer Trilogy recently and thought it was ok. The first one reads like a soap opera. The second one holds you by the balls and doesn't let go until the latter half of book 3. The ending was weak as fuck. It felt like she suddenly remembered she had to actually end the damn thing and rushed everything at the last minute. Not to mention the feminist undertones throughout. I cringed at the Fool saying "It's all just plumbing" when comparing the two sexes.
Do her other trilogies get any better? Are they still YA? I'm not one for edginess but you mean to tell me a teenage boy that's mind linked to a wolf doesn't sodomize a some tavern whore in his travels?
If not, can someone please direct me to a fantasy series that's kind of like that.
>nb4 game of thrones
>>7832548
I read the first one. I don't like that much to read the others.
>>7832740
I'm currently reading it. I'm at book 4.
It's pretty good IMO and it gets better book after book so far.
>>7835910
You're gonna have to grow up one day, and it's gonna be ugly
>>7837970
My man that's exactly what socialism is about
>>7832548
I guess I kinda liked the first one, but it was a bit too "whacky" for me.
It felt like it takes place in the Artemis Fowl universe, which I immensely enjoyed as a teen, but just can't connect with anymore.
Are there any other serious fantasy like Tolkien or GRRRUM?
I've tried to read Hobb, Abercrombie, Rothfuss, Lawrence and others but they all seem really silly or edgy. Like children's books tried to be written for adults.
>>7838877
Yes, plenty. Lots of Wolfe, Peake, Le Guin, Zelanzy.
>>7838167
>Really? Because that's what Orwell saw in it, and he shot people in the Spanish Civil War, although I'm sure your lived experience trumps his.
Orwell was a socialist you cuck. Anarchism is socialism.
>>7838931
>Anarchism is socialism
>>7838389
>fitz doesn't sodomize a tavern whore
Of course he doesn't because he's not an asshole. This is a bullshit complaint and you know it.
I'm not sure why people call the series YA considering it's one of the more mature series out there, just not in a blatant gay, rape and incest kind of way. Is it because it's accessible and has a young protagonist?
Liveship is about as good, but has far more morally grey characters, so maybe you'll enjoy that more.
>>7838939
>workers control the means of production
>non-hierarchal organization
Its socialism. Unless you think Orwell was a fucking ancap.
>>7838939
the history of anarchist thought is very much intertwined with that of socialism, so yes pretty much
>>7838389
I thought Liveship Traders and the trilogy after it were boring as fuck. The pacing is way too slow for me and it feels like you're just waiting for the third book so that things can start happening.
I would just skip them and go straight to the fitz trilogies or read something like the Black Company
>>7838931
And he saw people use it to suppress thought.
>>7838931
>Anarchism is socialism.
And Christianity is pacifism, but sometimes it doesn't look like that in the real world.
Anyway I loved the Ascians. It's rare to see fantasy authors address other 20th-century authors so directly. Wolfe is saying it doesn't matter if you teach them Newspeak, they'll find a way to talk about liberty.
>>7838941
The sodomizing bit was hyperbole on my part. But I just find extremely hard to beleive that a teenager at peak physical fitness doesn't act on those raging hormones but stays true for some fucking maid who's older than him. Sounds like a woman's fantasy. Even the dragons are more plausible than that scenario.
>>7837039
its cool
>>7838167
>Orwell was against socialism
jesus christ
>>7836870
Depends who you like, obviously. Bakker and Abercrombie both have upcoming books set in their worlds.
>>7838389
Liveships is the next trilogy, I actually liked it better than Farseer.
Tawny Man is after that and it's not as good but worth a read.
The Soldier's Son trilogy literally just about a fat kid and his problems with being fat. It's worthless crap and not set in the same world so it's easily skipped.
Rain Wild chronicles are mediocre.
tell me why i should read hyperion
>>7840059
Idk it isn't an essential read. I guess if you want space adventure.
>>7839301
Currently reading Farseer, but I'm probably gonna skip Liveships to Tawny Man as I'm more interested in that Fool guy. How is 'The Fitz and the Fool' which apparently comes after that?
>>7840059
Hyperion's pretty fun! Some neato world building. Each character has its own genre, you get some noir, you get some boring hackneyed romance, people eat that shit up right
>>7838053
Sounds like you're the cuck here friend
>>7839161
The author does have trouble at times writing Fitz, I give this a pass though, because she does a pretty admirable job considering how extremely masculine a character he is. Very few women can actually write a character like him without fumbling the entire thing start to finish. Fitz staying faithful shouldn't be bothering you though. It's completely normal.
>>7840072
The third trilogy is a bit odd. The first book is a glorified prologue, not all that much happens until right at the end. The second book is where it picks up, so Fitz grabs his axe, charges out the door.. and falls flat on his face because he's nearly 70 years old and hasn't fought in over 30 years at this point. It actually works, though. Fitz, rather than trying to get his old, beat up self back into fighting form, reverts to his assassin training. He comes across as actually being older and wiser, and calmer too.
The biggest problems I have with it is that the Fool gets annoyingly blatant about the homolust, and the seeds have been laid for some serious deus ex machina. Also the pacing is a bit iffy.
Is Corum Jhaelen Irsei a good way to get into Moorcrock's writings? Seems like a pretty interesting character.
>>7839161
How old are you? A lot of teenagers are like that and will stay loyal to their partners.
I think you've read too much grimdark and expect too little of characters. In the real world, most of us are just trying their best to be good people. Why is it so hard to accept that from Fitz?
>>7839240
He wasn't? That's news to me.
>>7840392
>I think you've read too much grimdark and expect too little of characters. In the real world, most of us are just trying their best to be good people. Why is it so hard to accept that from Fitz?
Because most truly don't want to be good people and aren't doing their best? I mean if literature teaches anything, it's how twisted people are and how egoism rules them.
>>7839240
>implying Newspeak was derived from the British government
>implying Ingsoc was explained as a progression of capitalism
>implying the fat cats they threw fruit at during the Two Minute Hates were Stalin and Lenin
>>7840657
>most truly don't want to be good people and aren't doing their best?
Look, Schopenhauer, just because you and the mirror are like that doesn't mean anything.
any actual thoughts on bakker's second apocalypse? darkness that comes before? all i heard is memes.want to try it but not surr
>>7840734
I liked the lolis, rape and incest in that.
>>7840726
Been reading Flannery O'Connor, I wish it was schoppy.
>>7840734
Pretty good, can't wait for the next book to come out this summer.
Nobody writes rape, gay and incest quite like Bakker does
>>7840776
>gay
No, no, no! We went over this! It's 'lolis' now.
>>7840734
First book is good.
Second is eh.
Third is eh then whoa shit.
Fourth and fifth are holy fuck.
Sixth is looking to be another holy fuck based on excerpts.
>>7835803
>I don't need to read something to dislike it.
/v/ pls
Is it possible to outgrow fantasy? Nothing does it for me anymore. It used to be my favourite entertainment. Hobb, Martin, Tolkien, Ursula, Gemmell, Fallon... I had a lot of fun with everyone of them, now I can only stomach Tolkien. He's a big exception in fact, I can't stand Hobbit, I always disliked it, but I breezed through lotr and Silmarilion half a year ago in the same way as I did when I first read them, but the rest I simply cannot stand. I see flaws left and right. I tried some works I didn't read before, some other authors, some work that I absolutely adored, like Legend from Gemmell, and nothing. They are too long, too boring at times so I find myself speedreading sections, or outright skipping pages.
Why are these two genres shit on by /lit/? I could never figure this meme out.
>>7840868
what genres?
Sci-Fi and Fantasy are a setting, not a genre.
>>7840402
Socialism has nothing to do with Soviet totalitarian state. It can be one aspect of it, but Eric Maria Blair wrote extensively on Spanish Civil War from a socialist perspective.
>>7840722
Newspeak = Ascian speak = Hugo awards comittee or whatever, it's all the same except you don't get literal Cheka waiting outside.
>>7840868
We're just not up to /lit/'s standards for gay, rape, and incest. You may have noticed a few anons trying to change that, but it's slow work.
>>7840890
>Socialism has nothing to do with Soviet totalitarian state.
Except for it being a union of socialist republics, of course, and their statues of Marx and May Day parades and celebrations of how they had made a workers' paradise.
Sure, it wasn't idealized utopian socialism, but they read from the book and they funded the revolutions. To say that they weren't socialists is a little extreme, but understandable, if you're going from a fundamentalist perspective. To say they had nothing to do with socialism, though?
And the Ascians are socialists. They might not be your favorite kind of socialist, but they're loyal to the cause of the populace.
>>7840782
How much SFF even has lolis anon? I've come across plenty of the gay. Care to throw out a few titles?
>>7840876
"Genre" is a vague word you can understand by context if you are not suffering from a spectrum disorder.
>>7840876
No I think you're confused. The terms sci-fi and fantasy are used to describe the type of book, or genre. It's more broad of a descriptor than simply the setting.
>>7840981
Scandinavian countries are also socialist... and socialism isn't an utopia like communism is. It's a system of governance, or rather a part of it, a policy that can be implemented under capitalism as well. Ascians are adherents to a totalitarian ideology, I have no idea what their public health / education bills are like.
