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Anybody ever give this fella a shot? Any recommendations?
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Anybody ever give this fella a shot? Any recommendations?
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White: X
Male: √
Dead :X
Sorry pal. I can stretch to 2/3 but 1/3 is unbearable
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>>7650653
this. if he aint white, i ain't reading it
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>>7650645
I listened to some of his lectures, thoroughly enjoyed them
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>>7650659
If he's got AIDS, don't read his books. Just stay away from that stuff, it's serious business.
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is that Samuel R Delany? quick, ask him what the hell he was trying to achieve when he wrote "Hogg".
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Questlove, you're not in the house.

You're nowhere.
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>>7650645
He is a super nice guy irl. I waited on him a few times.

He dates white women.
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>>7651642
look at the guy, he's at least half white
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>>7650645
What is this creature?
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In 1995, The New Republic literary editor Leon Wieseltier charged him with opportunism, crass showmanship, and lack of scholarly seriousness. Wieseltier specifically dismissed West's books as "almost completely worthless" because, he said, they are "noisy, tedious, slippery ... sectarian, humorless, pedantic and self-endeared."[34]

In 2000, economist and former U.S. Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers became president of Harvard. Soon after, Summers held a private meeting with West, where he reportedly rebuked West for missing too many classes, contributing to grade inflation, neglecting serious scholarship, and spending too much time on his economically profitable projects.[48] Summers reportedly suggested that West produce an academic book befitting his professorial position, as his recent output had consisted primarily of co-written and edited volumes. According to some reports, Summers also objected to West's production of a CD, the critically panned Sketches of My Culture, and to his political campaigning, including an alleged three weeks to promote Bill Bradley's presidential campaign.[49] West contended he had missed only one class during his tenure at Harvard "in order to give a keynote address at a Harvard-sponsored conference on AIDS." Summers also allegedly suggested that since West held the rank of Harvard University Professor and thus reported directly to the President, he should meet with Summers regularly to discuss the progress of his academic production.[50]

Summers refused to comment on the details of his conversation with West, except to express hope that West would remain at Harvard. Soon after, West was hospitalized for prostate cancer. West complained that Summers failed to send him get-well wishes until weeks after his surgery, whereas newly installed Princeton president Shirley Tilghman had contacted him frequently before and after his treatment.[50]

In 2002 West left Harvard University to return to Princeton. West lashed out at Summers in public interviews, calling him "the Ariel Sharon of higher education" on NPR's Tavis Smiley Show.[51] In response to these remarks, five Princeton faculty members, led by professor of molecular biology Jacques Robert Fresco, said they looked with "strong disfavor upon his characterization" of Summers and that "such an analogy carries innuendoes and implications... that many on the Princeton faculty find highly inappropriate, indeed repugnant and intolerable."[52]
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The way he carries himself is unnerving in person.
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>>7651724
>West complained that Summers failed to send him get-well wishes until weeks after his surgery, whereas newly installed Princeton president Shirley Tilghman had contacted him frequently before and after his treatment.[50]
lel
muh prostate get-well wishes
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>>7650645
I tried to "give him a shot", but he kept ducking and dodging.

Next time, though... next time.
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>>7650645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZYbTZLiWxo

He seems nice. I also liked his conference with Zizek. I just hate that americans always say Gurtha or whatever when they want to say Goethe.
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>But Brutha Bill, da Republicans shucklucicans doruclicans in da mucklicans do-ducklicans

>[Maher audience claps itself to death]

>>7652221
He's a total sophist. There's no coherence or genuine thread of work going through what he's saying. He's just repeating flowerly language he read in other books.
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>>7651621

Questlove, I'm your father.
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>>7652236
i wouldnt go as far to say there's no coherent thread in what hes saying, in fact i quite like how he tries to tie seemingly unrelated things into his ideal, like the bit about plato and the flute. But he does seem that hes trying to hard to impress
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>>7650653
>>7650659
>actual comments on /lit/
>they don't know race and gender are cultural constructs
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Does he bring anything interesting to the conversation, or is it just standard identity politics?
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>>7652221
didnt even know he had a conference with zizek. will definitely check it out

link for others interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNEvaHDAGs
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>>7652659
watch that video above and tell me your thoughts
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>>7652657
They are pretty fine constructs in my opinion. I choose racism ironically of course, but I am committed to irony so my racism is almost indistinguishable from unironic racism. I wouldn't call a guy a nigger to his face as I am not so committed to irony that I will get my face punched, but I will sigh whenever someone mentions immigration.
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>>7652663
It certainly seems to be component of his thought, but he seems more interesting than most who support those ideas. I'd have to read his political works to make an adequate judgement; there wasn't enough in the video for me to do so.

Also while he had a few clever lines, his speaking style generally annoyed me.
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>>7652643
>it reminded brotha gurter of the suicidal thoughts that he had had in the 1770s in weimar that made him turn to neo-classicism

Completely pointless tangent and pathetic attempt to appear erudite. Betrays his lack of wisdom and his sophistry.
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>>7651621
>>7652267
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>>7652657
Is this b8 lmao
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>>7652660
thanks bruv
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I love Brother Cornel after listening to his Matrix trilogy philosopher commentary.
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>>7652221
>I just hate that americans always say Gurtha or whatever when they want to say Goethe.
Then how are we supposed to say it?
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>>7650645
Questlove has written books?
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>>7652236
>There's no coherence or genuine thread of work going through what he's saying. He's just repeating flowerly language he read in other books.
That's every French philosopher m8. True philosophy's been dead for half a century
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>>7653035
It came off like a parlor trick to impress the uneducated.
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>>7653035
Says the guy calling him out on it attempting to appear erudite.
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I like the way he joins up anti-racist struggle and class struggle.

>Progressive organizations often find themselves going around in a vicious circle. Even when they have a great interest in antiracist struggle, they are unable to attract a critical mass of people of color because of their current predominately white racial and cultural composition. These organizations are then stereotyped as lily white, and significant numbers of people of color refuse to join.

>The only effective way the contemporary democratic socialist movement can break out of this circle (and it is possible because the bulk of democratic socialists are among the least racist of Americans) is to be sensitized to the critical importance of antiracist struggles. This "conscientization" cannot take place either by reinforcing agonized white consciences by means of guilt, nor by presenting another grand theoretical analysis with no practical implications.The former breeds psychological paralysis among white progressives, which is unproductive for all of us; the latter yields important discussions but often at the expense of concrete political engagement.

>We must frankly acknowledge that a democratic socialist society will not necessarily eradicate racism. Yet a democratic socialist society is the best hope for alleviating and minimizing racism, particularly institutional forms of racism. This conclusion depends on a candid evaluation that guards against utopian self-deception. But it also acknowledges the deep moral commitment on the part of democratic socialists of all races to the dignity of all individuals and peoples, a commitment that impels us to fight for a more libertarian and egalitarian society. Therefore concrete antiracist struggle is both an ethical imperative and political necessity for democratic socialists. It is even more urgent as once again racist policies and Third World intervention become more acceptable to many Americans. A more effective democratic socialist movement engaged in antiracist and anti-imperialist struggle can help turn the tide. It depends on how well we understand the past and present, how courageously we act, and how true we remain to our democratic socialist ideals of freedom, equality, and democracy.
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I actually have quite a bit of experience with Dr. West. In high school he helped me write a paper for an ethics class on Thomas Aquinas' connections to Aristotle. Smells great, gives everyone hugs, and calls everyone brother. Really good guy, though I haven't read too thoroughly into his politics.
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>>7650653
kek
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West got BTFO by Michael Eric Dyson, absolutely fucking rekt

newrepublic.com/article/121550/cornel-wests-rise-fall-our-most-exciting-black-scholar-ghost
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>>7653621
thanks for sharing the link. interesting read
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>>7652657
JUST
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>>7652657
DO
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>>7652657
A FLIP
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He did a commentary for the entire Matrix Trilogy start there.
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>>7653578
How'd you get in contact with him?
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>>7653875
I don't want to reveal too much, but I live in the Princeton area and he spends a decent amount of time at my school
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>>7653225
Yeah but nobody is claiming I have any actual talent
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He looks like a bum they put in a suit.
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>>7654170
The fact that you think you can dismiss a noted scholar says otherwise.
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>>7654008
Is he a paedophile then?
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>>7654406
He's not a noted scholar. He's a token nigger who has read a few books, just like Judith Butler is a token dyke. Nobody will be reading Cornel West in twenty years time, let alone a century from now.
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>>7652221
How do you pronounce Goethe then?
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>>7653161
Does he just commentate during the first movie? I haven't listened to it yet.
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>>7654431
Ghêtte, you fucking plen
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>>7654454
Sound it out for the absolute pleb that i am. guh-tuh?
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>>7654470
Getty ?
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>>7654454
It's fucking gö-teh, as in schön-berg
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>>7654452
All three movies.
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>>7653295
This is really good and I agree completely.

>>7653180
kek, he actually has

http://www.amazon.com/Mo-Meta-Blues-According-Questlove/dp/1455501352


Anyone have recommendations for a good book of his? I've only seen him in the video with Zizek. He didn't get to speak much as usually happens so I didn't get much of an impression. I liked the quote I responded to above but this >>7651724 does worry me a bit, if that's true he sounds like a scumbag.
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>>7651724
What an ass
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>>7651724
>Larry Summers

Instantly, instantly discredited. Larry Summers is a fat, gas-bloated sack of shit who deserves to be fucking shot in the testicles for his role in various financial crises over the decades.

I knew Obama was a fucking snake when he tapped Summers to head the NEC.
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>>7654603
Yeah, and we shouldn't listen to Wagner's music either because he was often in debt.
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>>7653295
Nice to see some intersectionalists here. Most of the leftists on 4chan are steeped in tankie apologism and brocialist bullshit.
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>>7652643
he has to impress somehow if he isn't publishing anything worthwhile.

>>7652659
Identity politics, 100% of the time.
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>>7654620
Don't you dare fucking denigrate Summers' role in the Asian Financial Crisis and the Russian Financial Crisis. He is a fucking monster. He is a demon with horns. Anyone he dislikes should be looked on favorably.
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>This entire thread

depressing

Read "Race Matters" for sure. There's an anthology of his essays called "Cornel West Reader" which is great. Unfortunately he's been way more activist than academic lately and hasn't written a book in a long time.

Some of the criticisms levied against him as in the Dyson article are somewhat valid, but he should never have been made a pariah for all he's done. I think a lot of his more outlandish behavior/statements in the last decade are just him lashing out at all that unfair pressure.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6rgilu1oP8
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>>7652657
This photo is triggering me
Please change it to "slutslaughing.jpeg" or delete it for good
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