I am interested in this topic but I do not know where to start.
>>7583065
start with the greeks
>but I don't know where to start
Reddit is a safe bet.
7th grade would be my guess
there's no government like no government!
>>7583065
Look up the different kinds of anarchism and the writers/philosophers/economists pertaining to each, there's different varietys, everything from Anarcho-Capitalism to Anarcho-Communism
start anywhere man!
but books are a social construct, just warning you
>>7583065
Proudhon - What is Property?
Bakunin - God & the State
Pessoa - The Anarchist Banker
This was my starter kit on the subject. I think it was pretty good.
>>7583065
Leftist 'anarchism' is an oxymoron, check out these guys instead
Murray Rothbard
Hans Herman Hoppe
Ludwig von Mises
Stirner, since he says 'all the rules are just enforced memes so deal with them as you please'.
The other lads tend to get caught up in silly ideology like 'duuude what if there were like no rules we could do what we want it would be perfect' and unironically want to establish such a situation.
Mutual Aid by Pytor Kropotkin
Conquest of Bread by Pytor Kropotkin
What is Anarchism? by Alexander Berkman
Anarcho-syndicalism: Theory and Practice by Rudolf Rocker
>>7583179
>not seeing authority manifest through inequality in capital
It's like you don't even read
Check out this website:
http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/
Of those not already mentioned, I am particularly fond of William Godwin, considered the first modern anarchist, especially his text An Enquiry Concerning Political Justice and its Influence on Morals and Happiness. A brief excerpt:
A second source of those destructive passions by which the peace of society is interrupted is to be found in the luxury, the pageantry and magnificence with which enormous wealth is usually accompanied. Human beings are capable of encountering with cheerfulness considerable hardships when those hardships are impartially shared with the rest of the society, and they are not insulted with the spectacle of indolence and ease in others, no way deserving of greater advantages than themselves. But it is a bitter aggravation of their own calamity, to have the privileges of others forced on their observation, and, while they are perpetually and vainly endeavouring to secure for themselves and their families the poorest conveniences, to find others revelling in the fruits of their labours. This aggravation is assiduously administered to them under most of the political establishments at present in existence. There is a numerous class of individuals who, though rich, have neither brilliant talents nor sublime virtues; and, however highly they may prize their education, their affability, their superior polish and the elegance of their manners, have a secret consciousness that they possess nothing by which they can so securely assert their pre-eminence and keep their inferiors at a distance as the splendour of their equipage, the magnificence of their retinue and the sumptuousness of their entertainments. The poor man is struck with this exhibition; he feels his own miseries; he knows how unwearied are his efforts to obtain a slender pittance of this prodigal waste; and he mistakes opulence for felicity. He cannot persuade himself that an embroidered garment may frequently cover an aching heart.
>>7583395
>Thinking you well ever get rid of inequality
>>7583065
anti-flag
and also a dick up the bum
I would very strongly advise the following two:
Start with ABCs of Anarchism by Berkman - this gives you a ground level, practical, made to be distributed pamphlet from the most thoughtful active(ie not sitting in their bedrooms) group of anarchists in the 20th century.
Next read Mattew Arnold's Culture and Anarchy to get a more philosophical view.
After that read Proudhon, Bakunin, Mutual Aid, Pessoa, etc. but the two I mentioned are probably the best places to start. I teach a class on the topic at a university level.
Wow Thx alot guys ! I would like to propose this book , it is not about anarchism however i think it could be a excellent support of anarchism.
>>7583065
Absolutely start with Berkman, then move past to go on to Proudhon and Bakunin. Then read Homage to Catalonia and have your soul crushed at how what would otherwise be a brilliant system of living is absolutely BTFO by the bourgeoisie, more totalitarian factions , and the relative disinterest by the masses.
>>7583179
>Falling for the 'anarcho-capitalism' meme
They breed you folks stupider and stupider nowadays, don't they.
>>7585042
What will be a the best book ( or top 2) from Proudhon and Bakunin ?
>>7585451
You should start with What is Property?, by Proudhon (1840). Then, try to read Statism and Anarchy, which is a collection of texts from Bakunin (Cambridge University Press). Mutual Aid from Kropotkin is also a good read.
These three for starters.
Also
>>7583179
Ethics of Liberty is the worst try to build an right-wing-anarchist framework. It's shit.
>>7583395
inequality is first and foremost a genetic phenomenon
actual anarchism is radical traditionalism, a return to the natural order
"anarchism" is commies unironically believing in the tabula rasa and completely failing to see that equality is a state lie/meme
>>7583307
Cant forget Murray Rothbard
>>7585671
and here it is. as opposite to muh feels leftists use to justify their mooching and thievery, anarcho-capitalism can actually be defended through logic.
https://mises.org/library/argumentation-ethics-and-liberty-concise-guide
The kingdom of god is within you to be quite frank with you family
>>7583065
Start with your relationship to your father m8
>>7585685
What ?
>>7585675
This book is a fucking joke. If you want to be honest with yourself, read some Nozick.
>yfw anarchocapitalist don't even know proudhon
>>7585681
This.
>>7585730
>proudhon
>the guy who said 'property is theft'
even a child could tell that is self-refuting. Property is justified by the self-ownership and nonagression principles. Whoever thought that up obviously has the mentality of a vindictive child and deserves to be ignored by all reasonable individuals.
>>7585765
Tell me more about those justice and morality particles.
>>7585773
left-anarchism is inherently authoritarian because the redistribution of wealth would require force and coercion. It doesn't recognize the right to self-ownership, and that's just one step away from totalitarianism
>>7585805
Left anarchism does not require the redistribution of wealth, you turd.
>>7585805
>It doesn't recognize the right to self-ownership
Au contraire, Leftist anarchism, the only true form of anarchism, recognizes the individual as being subject to the will of others through the centralization of capital. You aren't an anarchist. You're a lolbertarian with a fancy name. You support that can only lead to tyranny and the subjection of the masses.
>>7585830
Isn't the point of anarchism to be against THE STATE, not voluntary indivduals doing business? In AnCap it'd be prohibited to initiate force, as I hope it would be in Leftist anarchism otherwise it wouldn't be anarchism, so if someone wanted to voluntarily make their own commune or whatever we wouldn't care, the enemy should be the State not businesses who make things and employ people idiot
>inb4 capitalism is a branch of the State
>>7585671
Life is statist, family. 'State' ultimately comes down to the group of lads with the most firepower, and there's always one of those around.
All anarchists deserves a bullet in the brain tbhfam. That said, Bakunin because he was wise to the jews
>>7585852
even security forces and the justice system can be privatized. In fact such a system would increase fairness and eliminate brutality through the power of market competition.
>>7585848
>Isn't the point of anarchism to be against THE STATE, not voluntary indivduals doing business?
Define voluntary.
>In AnCap....
>but muh NAP
Literally another tool be used by a bourgeois class that is in all functionality the state. Instead of opression by the state it will be Coca-ColaTM. Congrats.
>if I say inb4 it invalidates his arguement
>>7585765
Real anarchism, not this Mises Institute bullshit, start with Proudhon. You can accept or get the fuck out.
Also, the NAP is just a rule of thumb. And no, Kant will not help you, faggot.
Don't read any of the classical anarchists because they are stupid and boring as fuck OP and you're just going to waste your time. Just remember to bee yourself and create a new non-epistemic ontology via your daily practical-critical activity.
>>7585765
"property is theft" is actually nonsensical because property and theft are both bourgeois legal concepts which make no sense outside the realm of positive law which proudhon never fully rejected
>>7585805
"rights" are a purely metaphysical concept. You're right to "self-ownership" violates my rights to own you if my metaphysics deem it my right to do so. Rights discourse is inherently totalitarian because it totalizes your rights onto everyone else.
>>7585863
Read some Nozick, srsly. You won't get any better account of this private justice system anywhere (also, the agencies will become a "state-like" entity itself, so your anarchocapitalism is self-defeating at the end).
>>7583094
Anarcho-Capitalism is not anarchism
>>7585830
>Left anarchism does not require the redistribution of wealth, you turd.
How? abolishing property and capitalism would require expropriation and most likely violence. To preserve socialism you need to forbid people from trading or having control of land or resources.
>>7585996
The abolition of private property is not akin to redistribution. Redistribution implies that it is changing ownership from one hand to the other. It is not moving between individuals.
>to preserve socialism....
Not forbid people from trading or having control of land or resources aka capital, just the private ownership.
>>7585996
Property has to be upheld, simply not recognizing it takes no work what so ever. To preserve capitalism you need to forbid people from trading or controlling land and resources which you claim they do not own.
>>7585863
As this anon said:
>the agencies will become a "state-like" entity itself, so your anarchocapitalism is self-defeating at the end
Powerful private companies will just become de facto states.
The abc of libertarian communism by Alexander Berkman, Also anything by Kropotkin
>>7583076
Specifically /r/anarcho_capitalism
>>7585984
How so?
>>7586141
Not really. At *least* in this type of a system you'd have a choice.
And capitalism =! for-profit; their could be employee-owned, sole-proprietorship's, partnerships, customer-owned, non-profits, mutual-aid-societies, voluntary communes, anarchosyndicalist collectives, etc., type of business relationships.
>>7586739
>Not really. At *least* in this type of a system you'd have a choice.
A choice between what? Warlords?
>>7585675
By god, Mises Institute is actually providing people with argumentation starter packs for internet catfights now?
>>7586768
No, between competing businesses. Ya know, like these: http://www.lolhome.com/img_big/fedex-vs-ups.jpg
Also, do you think these people are any less like warlords...? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/
But this is /pol/, so believe what you want and keep reading :)
>>7586739
>capitalism =! for-profit
Now now, we all know that's not the case. Even so-called non-profits and collectives/cooperatives are incentivized to increase market share at every turn as well as delivering returns to participants. How is that not a profit motivator?
I believe I need some kind of basic understanding of a system that differ from the materialistic bullshit we have. If I understand , you suggest to not read anything ? If I am not correct , what should I read ?
>>7586807
...because their profit margin (i.e. money left over after expenses and materials) can *still* be zero. They could simply want to expand their userbase, or they may grow because customers seek *them* out. There are lots of organizations that cap membership; for example co-housing will often cap the number of members they have. There, not more profit motivator.
>>7583076
>>7583078
>>7583083
>>7583095
It's upsetting that your first response to being asked about a topic is anti-intellectualism.
Studying a topic is not condoning it nor supporting it. Nobody is so easily suggestible as to automatically believe something just because they read it.
Continuing to harbor and manifest crude behavior will result in the corrosion of your ability to reason without fault.
>>7586815
Here's a simple intro to anarco-communism
>Anarchism: from theory to practice - Daniel Guerin
https://libcom.org/library/anarchism-daniel-guerin
>>7586824
"Expenses" is a highly flexible term. Modern American universities and HMOs being a good example of non-profit entities competing like for-profits to deliver value to employees, if not to stakeholders.
In a competitive capitalist system, the organizations that deliver the best value to the stakeholder/member succeed. Little communes and mutual-aid societies won't resist the onslaught of larger entities, seeing as how economic warfare is the natural result of the whole NAP being applied to large entities.
>>7586824
How the hell would you reinvest in expansion or even maintain subsistence if you eliminate profit? Reinvestment isn't optional if you plan on surviving. If you're not beating your sectoral rate of profit you're doomed.
Any form of monetary economy requires responding to actions outside of your control. The revolutionary ability of capitalism to rapidly devalue value means you have to react fast and plan extensively.
>>7586855
>In a competitive capitalist system, the organizations that deliver the best value to the stakeholder/member succeed. Little communes and mutual-aid societies won't resist the onslaught of larger entities, seeing as how economic warfare is the natural result of the whole NAP being applied to large entities.
What kind of "economic onslaught" are you talking about? You do know that some people *like* small cafes, local businesses, etc. According to your "theory," a place like this should've went bankrupt long ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Slope_Food_Coop
>>7586797
Competing business is a euphemism for warring factions if there is no authority above them with a monopoly on violence.
>>7586858
Same person, see my other comment...
>>7586873
> Competing business is a euphemism for warring factions if there is no authority above them with a monopoly on violence.
I've never heard someone argue this before. Do you honestly think this is true? You do know that people can own guns and hire security, right?
>>7586895
>You do know that people can own guns and hire security, right?
Yes, which will ultimately result with the most powerful group of armed people having the upper hand over others and being able to tell them what to do and get away with it. Which is a de facto state.
>>7586864
>You do know that some people *like* small cafes, local businesses, etc
It doesn't matter what people like in a monetary economy, it only matters if you can operate at a profit rate which allows you to survive. Under a true liberal economic arrangement could small cafes and local businesses operate profitably and sustainably if the value of their capital is being constantly devalued at a more rapid pace?
>>7586864
So Park Slope is Ancapistan now? Good to know.
>>7586910
That's not how armed conflict works. People don't just sign up for jobs knowing they'll be killed. You have a very warped view of humanity if you think we need a violent government to keep everyone "in order."
>>7586915
>Under a true liberal economic arrangement could small cafes and local businesses operate profitably and sustainably if the value of their capital is being constantly devalued at a more rapid pace?
Yes. We see it all the time. Even used book stores are making a comeback.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-the-age-of-amazon-used-bookstores-are-making-an-unlikely-comeback/2015/12/26/06b20e48-abea-11e5-bff5-905b92f5f94b_story.html
>>7586910
>b-b-but this would be a voluntary contribution to the defense force, unlike the evil oppressive states!
>can you opt out of it?
>no
ancap logic
>>7586944
Except used books and new books are two essentially different goods. They're not beating Amazon in a price war, they're literally offering a different, inferior product.
Look at regular bookstores though, interesting to see what happened.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/9741974/Bookshop-numbers-halve-in-just-seven-years.html
>>7586973
TIL Amazon doesn't sell used books...
>>7586944
Because books are worth a lot less then they once were because of capitalism driving down their value. The success of capitalism is the devaluation of value. The end result of competition is always monopoly but monopoly eventually will give way to competition. All those book stores will eventually become unprofitable again at some point and go out of business. The closer to liberalism in its pure form you get the smaller and violent these cycles will get, ruining lives in the process.
Liberalism is naïvely positive and socialism is violently negative.
>>7586945
It's easy to opt out. Live on a hippy commune, live in a condo building with security, or just buy your own: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765698_-1_757911_757798_757797_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
Sorry, government doesn't protect people from violence anyways. Have you been to poor neighborhoods?
>>7586995
I disagree. Anyways, what's your solution or ideal "system"?
>>7587004
>large state-like actor that levies fees from all the inhabitants in a given geographical area for basic services like protection
>"just opt out of it man, live in a condo with security or buy a pea shooter"
ancap logic strikes again
>>7586941
My 'warped view' is based on the fact that literally every place has a violent government (whether it be a Western state or an African warlord) to keep everyone in order.
Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun, familia.
>>7587004
>it's easy to opt out
No it isn't, you'll get arrested for tax evasion and if needed a SWAT team will come blow your hippie condo security the fuck out.
Start with a people history by Howard Zinn, then read all of Chomsky and your good anon
>>7585896
>Just remember to bee yourself and create a new non-epistemic ontology via your daily practical-critical activity
dont do this op
only stupid hipsters do this it doesnt work or go anywhere
Reminder that Anarcho-Capitalism is not Anarchism.
>>7588699
neither is anarchocommunism
>>7586732
Authority of capitalists over wages wich is the most important means to gain substance for the working class.
>>7588709
Communism ends in anarchism
>>7588875
no it doesn't
>I read it in a book so it must be true
>>7583065
https://mises.org/library/politics-obedience-discourse-voluntary-servitude
>>7583395
Equality is impossible without a state. How are you going to enforce it? At the point you have enforcement, you have a state.
dont know if this was posted yet. the history should always take precedent to the philosophy.
also, check out this shit. good stuff mein negers.
>http://www.submedia.tv/
>>7583433
Underrated post, nice contribution
>>7591024
Op here, I found a pdf for almost every intelligent suggestion here ;) No post is ignored
Read Conquest of Bread OP, and don't ask about real anarchism on 4chan because you won't get good answers.
http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF10
Please ignore all capitalist posters.
>>7591049
The really great thing about that website is that it is regularly updated and expanded. It is actually a project began by a university professor who teaches the subject and part of his students' grades each semester is their contribution to that Archive. I guarantee nearly everything recommended in every anarchist thread we've ever had on /lit/ can be found in that one location.
>>7588877
He's right though, the end goal of marxism is stateless.
>>7591418
Look how well that turned out.
>>7591538never been tried ;)
>>7586873
> someone NEEDS to be my nanny!
IMHO, I liked your line of reasoning before, so you can try again.
>>7586995
>The end result of competition is always monopoly
This makes a sweeping statement of every single industry ever known to man, from street food stands to banks. It doesn't work this way a priori, variables such as product differentiation, barriers to entry and amount of players in the market.
You can read more here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_organization
How would the economic regime turn out in a stirnerian anarchism? (individual-an, I suppose?)
>>7588875
>>7591418
> Ex-Proletariats who now have the power to control a whole nation's resources will give up their power to peasants for free.
> mfw
>>7591587
>Muh No True Scotsman
Though I will say, that Pol Pot in his slaughter was the closest thing to gaining communism.
Max Stirner's all you need. Anarchism is just a utopia, if it comes, fine, but judging from today's society, it seems impossible.
>>7592153
State socialism isn't communism, m8.
>>7592315
Which movement is this from?
>>7592345
>>7592720
Calling state socialism communism is like calling feudalism capitalism. It's silly.
>>7592735
Then why did no feudalists call their system capitalism?
>>7592720
>Infalliable
Discarded.
>>7592757
> but it is scientific!
>>7592742
These lads called themselves communists because they strove for communism, not because they had already realised it. Communism was their ideological allegiance. They called the actual systems they put in place socialism.
>>7592788
> we'll get there soon, guys, just keep shooting peasants!
>>7592796
No, just keep toppling bourgeois regimes until you have global socialism and go from there.
Also pretty silly that you take offence at a few dead people to end systematic worldwide oppression, anon.
>>7592829
> My system is so perfect that it should be violently mandatory for every nation, regardless of culture, geopolitical situation or economics
> also people will work for the greater good for the nation in an uncoerced fashion
> this period of unprecedented opression and genocide will take to anarchism and non-opression
> mfw
End systematic worldwide opression!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S6
>>7592859
>My system is so perfect that it should be violently mandatory for every nation, regardless of culture, geopolitical situation or economics
Not regardless of, in replacement of.
>also people will work for the greater good for the nation in an uncoerced fashion
They just need a few generations of tough love education.
>this period of unprecedented opression and genocide will take to anarchism and non-opression
If there's any way to lead to a non-oppresive anarchism it would be through tremendous force against reactionary elements first. There's nothing contradictive about that. The only way to peace is through war.
Stop being a sensitive liberal, anon.
>>7585882
Except Coca Cola doesn't have a monopoly on the legal use of the initiation of force and can't at all work in the same way a state does, the State uses violence to smash competition and forces it's 'customers' to pay for goods and services through taxation and if the 'customers' decline then they're kidnapped or killed by some guys in uniforms, and I define voluntary as an individual doing as he wants, in this case with another individual, to satisfy both their needs >I want this burger >I want to sell this burger >we can both come to a deal and both end up happier after it, getting what we both wanted
>>7592717
FAI-FRI
>>7592946
there's always going to be a power structure of some sort. That's my main problem with ancap thinking, they naively assign metaphysical/moral value to ideological constructs of our current system (like contracts, property, 'freedom') while ignoring they are a product of the state system and could not exist without it. Without a state monopoly on force a contracts and titles of property are no more than gentleman's agreements, currency scraps of paper and 'natural rights' just quasi-religious metaphysics. the use of violence always tends towards being a monopoly, at best an ancap system would result in a pseudo-feudal structure based around security forces, 'capitalism' as we know it being relegated to a secondary role.
>>7592946
>I want this burger >I want to sell this burger >we can both come to a deal and both end up happier after it, getting what we both wanted
Fucking Americans.
>>7583083
Anarchy just means 'without rulers'. It doesn't mean no government exists.
I'm not even an Anarchist (I like me a strong hierarchy) but people who think Anarchy = People running around setting things aflame because 'der aint no rules' are up with people who pronounce the Pacific Ocean as the Specific Ocean. Total retards.
Anarchism is a bunch of systems i think are nice on paper but flawed in practice, but serious anarchists will accept that some sort of government/law is necessary, but want one that is extremely decentralized/minimal in scope. A couple might want to remove it entirely, but even those will want to replace it with something else that serves broadly the same purpose.
For example, a direct and total democracy (one in which everyone gets to vote, all votes are equal and all issues are voted on) would be - ironically - an anarchy. At least for as long as it took for some power blocs to form and start making laws on things that start to make it not an anarchy anymore (again, im not actually an anarchist, shit like this is why).
Hell, Libertarianism follows into anarchy if you go far enough (thing Rapture from Bioshock if you want the themepark version).
Tao te Ching and Rousseau's Origins of Inequality & the Social Contract. And maybe some Rand for the whole self-reliance thing (though apparently objectivistsobjectto anarchy).
Not overtly anarchist, but they lay a foundation.
>>7592735
Feudalism was the most capitalist system of property ownership and rent ever.
t. Hans-Herman Hoppe
>>7593559
I'm not the smartest guy, but I don't see how Discourse on Inequality and the Dao de Jing pertain to anarchism
>>7593613
Discourse glamorizes savage man, man without great societies and a notion of property.
Tao te Ching all about that whole people working as unit without any sense that there is hierarchy.
>>7592877
> We will replace your culture
> we rly know best guise
> tough love education.
Hundreds of millions dead were not enough?
> only way to peace is through war.
Define War. Are you thinking about pax romana?
Could I counterpoint with Switzerland, which hasn't been in an armed conflict since ever or is this one of your sly fox's definitions where you use ad hoc reasoning to make any debate moot?
>>7593679
> anarchy = savages
>>7586728
That's not anarchism at all.
>>7593715
>hundreds of millions
Not sure commies executed so many, bruv. Or are you one of those people who put every heart attack under Mao on his kill list?
>Could I counterpoint with Switzerland, which hasn't been in an armed conflict since ever or is this one of your sly fox's definitions where you use ad hoc reasoning to make any debate moot?
That's because they're sitting on everyone's gold. They're like the monopoly bank. Switzerland thrives of wars, whether they be world wars or drug wars or tax wars. Before that they were the most notorious mercenaries in Europe though.
>>7586829
I'm not one the people you replied you, but i hope you read this.
This is one of the most reasonable and well written post i ever saw on 4chan.
For that i thank you.
I'm sorry if my writing offended anyone, English is not my first language.
>>7593725
that's not what I was saying at all, but I agree with the sentiment you made.
>>7593819
nice r/ancap meme my fellow free marketeer! why would you even have a state if you can have private militias lording over you ;)
>>7588709
There are now and will continue to be, in an anarchist future we all hope fore, many subtle hues and variants. The left-right dichotomy would/will continue. Some radical individualists that shun communities, collectives and their own families. These "rightwing" anarchists will mostly grow out of it though. :3
>>7593819
we got an actual redditor here
take your unfunny "memes" and shove them up your ass
>>7594155
r u the real butters?
>>7594184
Ye ye. Sic semper tyrannis.
On topic: Do you think I should get this book, Kropotkin's or both?
>>7594194
i thought you were leaving? missed us already?
>>7594194
pls don't leave again :3
>>7594228
Sorry, only here for a while. Don't cry.
>>7594243
when will you be back??
>>7594251
I don't know
>>7594194
you still need to read stirner
>>7594445
Will order it soon. Along with Goethe's Italian Journey, Fragments of Sappho by Carson, and The Summer Book from Jansson. Can't find these things anywhere.
Also need a new bookcase
>>7594455
Personal question: which feminist wave do you most affiliate your ideas with (if any).
>>7594465
prolly dworkin
>>7594465
My own, or "second wave", socialist variety I suppose.
Never had anything more than everyday common sense variety handed to me growing up, and hadn't given it much thought till after I got away from family. The "feminine" is now more associated with the gender hallmarks that I only employ half of. So the whole movement is misnamed now. Though feminism is far from irrelevant, class difference is still the most nettlesome problem in society. Capitalism the worst of all religions.
how about start at /pol/
>>7594606
Hello.
Why are you distributing reactionary Luddite pamphlets ITT?
>>7594155
Grow out of what, to communism, fuck no.
>>7594641
Try to imagine how anarchism could develop.
As it would is we could bring ourselves to drop capitalism and money of any kind altogether. Slowly we would decentralize governments till we were left with the authority of the townsfolk and the family unit. I was only poking fun at the wild eyed teenagers who would run away from home only to return later in life seeking the comfort of old loved ones.
I have to go soon...
>>7594661
>As it would IF
>>7594641
Convert
>>7594848
Source?
>>7591418
THE END/STATED GOAL AND WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
IT IS LAUGHABLE THAT ANARCHISTS LIKE TO SAY THAT ANARCHOCAPITALISM ISN'T TRUE ANARCHISM (NOT THAT THIS IS NECESSARILY WRONG) BUT ANARCHOCOMMUNISM IS SOMEHOW TRUE ANARCHISM
EQUALITY DOES NOT EXIST, EVER, IN ANY FORM, IT IS ONLY THE STATE THAT CAN MAINTAIN THE FACADE OF EQUALITY
REMINDER THAT THE TWO """""ANARCHISTS""""" IN THIS THREAD ARE A WOMAN AND SOMEONE PRETENDING TO BE A WOMAN, THEY CAN ONLY THINK DEONTOLOGICALLY
>>7594922
ALSO THE ONE THAT PRETENDS TO BE A GIRL EDITS A MANGA IN A CLEAR ATTEMPT TO PRETEND HE'S THE 15 YEAR OLD GIRL IN THE COMIC
THIS IS THE SORT OF PERSON THAT THINKS THEY CAN THRIVE WITHOUT A STATE (WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR RESPEC POTIONS???)
>>7594922
> WOMAN, THEY CAN ONLY THINK DEONTOLOGICALLY
kekked heartily
Please expand
Also, pls stop false flagging
it shows
>>7594941
http://www.capitalotc.com/study-women-are-deontological-whereas-men-tend-to-be-utilitarian/210496/
>>7594955
It would be more accurate to say that men think "the end justifies the means" and women think "muh feelsies" without using terms like deontological and utilitarian.
>>7594661
It's a nice vision, but unfortunately so impossible and untenable that it is quite simply stupid.
>>7583065
For a decent overview by a non anarchist; read David Miller: Anarchism
Not on /pol/ cause they spout the same meme all over again. Praise Hitler he was a good boy he didnt do nuthing.
>>7595338
Hitler lost the war because of irrational decisions, he did plenty wrong.
It's really telling that left Anarchists are more concerned with who used the word first than the validity of their arguments.
>>7586018
> Not recognizing property takes no work at all
If ownership is something that is argued (whether you have arbitrary distinctions between personal/private or think that "use" defines valid ownership), ignoring property claims will simply cause conflict over the use/control over the claimed property in question.....
