Lets talk about the Bible, Divine Comedy, Paradise Lost, Crime and Punishment and any other Christian literature you can think of.
>>7559400
20th century had a lot of great Catholic authors, Greene, Tolkien, Wolfe, O'Connor, Chesterton. Any more notable ones? Especially outside English language.
>>7559400
>Christians in charge of literature
Books with Christian themes that aren't direct bible fan fiction are trash. Yes, even Dostoevsky.
>>7559406
Shusaku Endo
>>7559400
"No."
>>7559406
waugh
>>7559409
I wouldn't say Dostoyevsky is trash, but I do think he can be a little heavy handed with his Christian ideology sometimes to try and make a point. The ending of Crime and Punishment made me want to puke
>>7559400
They are exemplary of Christ's teachings.
>>7559400
Does Tolstoy count as Christian? I mean in terms of his own personal theology, which was pretty idiosyncratic.
Also that pic is deeply saddening.
'We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.'
--Jonathan Swift, Thoughts on Various Subjects
How would Jesus deal with the harlots in that picture?
>>7559799
Read "The Idiot"? For a bible thumper Dosto really lays out the cynicism towards Christian ideals in a secular society. Almost as if everyone is better off without any interaction with a (debatable) Divine. Maybe it was my translation, but the cruelty, muddy prose and grueling conclusion left me depressed at the idea of Christ than hopeful.
Maybe that was his point?
>>7559934
jesus loved whores, read your gospels son
>>7559400
The gOD Delusion.
>>7559940
The point was fuck women.
>>7559923
I don't think that a church excommunicating someone makes them not a Christian (except in the eyes of that church). But ultimately there is some criterion or line, even if it's impossible to determine on a human basis. And at least some of Tolstoy's writing would be generally considered Christian, I would think, at least in terms of aspects of Christianity it espouses or reflects.
>>7559923
Whatever, I'm a Christian so I get what he's trying to say I just hate those and he was saved and everything was okay forever types of endings. Seemed a little too neat and tidy for the story I had just read.
>>7559940
Yeah it's my favorite book of his. I kind of see it as the reversed inside out version of crime and punishment. I loved the ending of that one
>>7559959
He denied the divinity of Christ.
That's what automatically makes you a non Christian.
It's moralistic, with Christian morality of the time as a basis. It's not very, at least from what I've read, spiritual as in having faith, mysticism, spirituality and all that.
>>7559966
I liked the ending since Raskoljnikov had just about everything he needed and wanted for a decent life at that point.
>>7559981
>>7559989
Yeah I guess maybe I was a little hard on it. It honestly wasn't even that uplifting, just in contrast to the rest of the book it was. It was a little predictable though, but hey so is life
>>7560035
His novels much more often than not have a sad or bittersweet ending.
Goddamn, I wanna die suffocated by the thighs of the hoe on the right.
>>7560004
>>7560048
one on the left is built like bas rutten though, that midriff
Just about anything Dostoevsky wrote after he got out of prison, really.
The Way of the Pilgrim
Herman Melville was more of agnostic, but he as very drawn to, and influence by, Christianity. Moby Dick and Clarel (an epic poem about a Christian who goes through a crisis of faith) are both very good Christian literature
Beowulf was written by a Christian and some aspects of it have been see as Christian allegory.
>>7559943
Jesus was pretty polite to sluts
>>7559999
The fuck does A Wrinkle In Time have to say about Christianity?
I feel like people are too quick with the trigger on whether something is Christian lit, at times.
>>7559406
Miguel de Unamuno
City of God desu
>>7559934
He would try to mend their ways. Also, anyone read the Pilgrim's Progress. Bunyan is underrated on here.
>>7561844
Most is English or Russian or Latin in original here so everything else gets overshadowed.
>>7560159
Bonjour Reddit
>>7561899
Wow how that meme has metastasized
>>7562200
It doesn't even make sense anymore
>>7560048
Abby Lee Brazil my friend
East of Eden
Ben Hur
A Tale of Two Cities
Pilgrim's Progress
I really like works that try to focus on the Old Testament, since it reads more like an epic that sweeps through the history of the Israelites and then those amazing poetic, wisdom, and prophet books that give it such a grand resonance. Paradise Lost is my favorite.
>>7562467
just like the bible itself
remember when Lot's daughters got him drunk so they could seduce him in order to let him inseminate them?
>>7562467
The sacred and the propane
Bliss
"OF Mans First Disobedience, and the Fruit
Of that Forbidden Tree, whose mortal tast
Brought Death into the World, and all our woe,
With loss of Eden, till one greater Man
Restore us, and regain the blissful Seat,
Sing Heav'nly Muse, that on the secret top
Of Oreb, or of Sinai, didst inspire
That Shepherd, who first taught the chosen Seed,
In the Beginning how the Heav'ns and Earth
Rose out of Chaos: or if Sion Hill
Delight thee more, and Siloa's brook that flow'd
Fast by the Oracle of God; I thence
Invoke thy aid to my adventrous Song,
That with no middle flight intends to soar
Above th' Aonian Mount, while it pursues
Things unattempted yet in Prose or Rhime."
>>7562535
Mashallah!
>>7562467
wouldn't have it any other way
i had always heard reference to how christianity was basically neoplatonism, and always wondered how much truth there was too it
then i read augustine's confessions, and funnily enough, his moment of complete spiritual conversion to christianity is immediately preceded by him reading neoplatonist literature and getting into some kind of heavy trance and "everything finally making sense to him"
just a cool detail i guess
>>7562364
she has a very characteristically brazillian beauty that's really kind of endearing despite there being something "masculine" to it
Does LOTR count as Christian lit?
>>7559409
omg
>>7562736
its not literature its fantasy
>>7562764
brothers karamazov is superior to the bible to be fair
>>7562467
They only exist through the other.
Is John Green christian?
>>7559400
C.S. Lewis:
* Narnia
* Space Trilogy
* Screwtape Letters
I say a novena everyday for the sins /lit/ commited one year ago today
>>7559999
>dubs quads on an image that gets trips
nice
Oh boy time to post my fav Christian troll image
>>7559400
>tfw I remembered the names and the best scenes of the two chicks the second I clicked on that pic
>tfw American christians would prolly want to crucify me
>>7566166
saucity sauce it baby
>>7564150
No.
>>7566148
kek
Here of course is the representative for Protestantism.O$teen is an utter charlatan
