How can something be sad and banal at the same time? That literally makes no sense
Something sad that's also an everyday occurrence. Like someone dying of heart disease.
>>7400216
You're right and there's something incredibly sad and banal about that
>>7400323
banal implies a pejorative though
saying it's banal to die of heart diseases just makes you sound edgy
saying something is sad implies a sentimentality, unless dfw was using sad ironically similar to how we sometimes say some things are sad when we in fact mean they are pathetic.
>>7400546
You are an autist.
things can also be both happy and sad
If you add time to sadness, it becomes banal.
TS = B
>>7400576
that is not an addition
>>7400323
If you were to tell me that a guy lying in a hospital bed dying of heart disease was a banal situation, it would still make no sense and sound ridiculous, even if it is an ordinary occurrence.
>>7400645
Why? Or is it solely because you don't want it to?
>>7400654
Banal has a negative connotation. Something is banal if it should or potentially could have substance but fails to do so and instead is hack and mediocre. A guy dying an ordinary death doesn't seem to fit the bill.
>>7400668
>good bad polarization
oh please
banal: So lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring
sad: Feeling or showing sorrow
By definition why wouldn't it make sense?
>>7400668
How have you got it in your head that banal having a negative connotation means it cannot apply to something sad? This is just nonsensical
Your definition is also offbase. OED mentions nothing in any sense of the word that implies 'it could have substance but it fails'
The first words of the definition are just
>Commonplace, common
>>7400681
>ba·nal
>bəˈnäl,bəˈnal/
>adjective
>so lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring.
>"songs with banal, repeated words"
>synonyms: trite, hackneyed, clichéd, platitudinous, vapid, commonplace, ordinary, common, stock, conventional, stereotyped, overused, overdone, overworked, stale, worn out, timeworn, tired, threadbare, hoary, hack, unimaginative, humdrum, ho-hum, unoriginal, uninteresting, dull, uninvolving, trivial; More
>>7400665
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/06/25/comedy-plus/
>>7400684
Is this supposed to be a refutation of what I said? That is virtually the same thing. Nothing about how it "should have substance but it fails"
>banal, adj.
>1. Of or belonging to compulsory feudal service.
>2. (From the intermediate sense of, Open to the use of all the community): Commonplace, common, trite; trivial, petty.
>>7400680
what limited definitions
>>7400690
Because it obviously has a negative connotation. It's defined by a lack of something retard, that means something which is banal fails in some sense.
>>7400694
I guess you know better than Oxford.
>>7400699
Yes. Don't think. Only repeat what you read.
>>7400697
Again
>How have you got it in your head that banal having a negative connotation means it cannot apply to something sad? This is just nonsensical
And again
>It's defined by a lack of something
No.
>something which is banal fails in some sense.
Only if you consider something being common as something failing.
Not that the last two points matter, because the first point is still unarguable regardless.
>>7400703
What makes you qualified to redefine words in the English language?
>>7400707
Bitter foods should never be eaten, too.
>>7400712
Context does.
*pats head*
>>7400716
*teleports behind you*
>>7400576
Something becomes banal if it happens enough to become a normality
>>7400730
subtract the b from banal and you're left with anal. you should think about that
>>7401518
That is such a banal obsevation.
That is such an anal observation.
>>7400694
Definitions have to be limited. If they weren't every word I use could mean the same thing.
banal? more like ANAL
>>7400216
reminder that he never said this and some anon on /lit/ made it into a meme
