I just got back from a random ass second hand bookshop with some absolute steals (pic related) and I want to see what you lot have been grabbing.
ITT we post our latest book haul (or download) and others judge us.
Just picked this up for four bucks in perfect condition. Feels good man.
>>7365568
What the fuck are those? Why do they matter? (Genuinely interested.)
My last Thrift Books order, for $10. I'm guessing the previous owner of the West never tried to read it.
>>7365625
Norton Criticals are best. How's the secondary content in that one look?
Can't for the life of me find a camera, but I just got pic related. Currently reading (and digging) Notre-Dame-des-Fleurs.
>>7365673
I hear The Book of Ebenezer Le Page is incredible. Great find!
Can't be bothered with a picture but I just got
>James Joyce, Portrait of The Artist - Stan Gebler Davies
>The Judgment at Nuremberg. The entire summary of the court.
Looking forward to reading both, especially the last one since I have just read two books on ICTY and ICTR respectively and my knowledge of the Nuremberg judgements could be better.
>>7365673
I just got this in the mail today. I'm pretty excited to read it.
>>7365790
I hadn't even thought to check out Bely beyond Petersburg. Thanks for calling attention to it.
>>7366045
Check out the Silver Dove, it's his novel before Petersburg which was recently by John Elsworth.
>>7365790
>>7366045
It's a shame that Petersburg or Bely isn't discussed more on /lit/, he's definitely one of my favourite underrated classic Russian writers. I don't think I've seen anything but Petersburg translated here in the UK. Shame though.
Did Petersburg remind anyone of a very experimental Crime & Punishment? I was getting those sorts of vibes when reading.
Anyway recently picked up Love in a Bottle by Antal Szerb.
>>7366207
Yeah Bely is probably one of my favorite authors of all time, next to Dostoevsky of course. I think John Elsworth is from the UK and the Silver Dove is published under Pushkin Press in the UK.
A lot of it really did evoke C&P which I found very enjoyable.
If you're ever in Detroit (Not that you'd want to be) Kings Books is a must go to.
>>7366474
Get out if you can. That "city" is no place for a lit user to be in.
>>7366758
Wait.
If you put then vertically in chronological order, it would say jest infinite by wallace foster david.
Who thought this was a good idea?
well, I just ordered these. Haven't got them yet.
Footprints of Thunder by David, James F.
The Captain's Best Mate: The Journal of Mary Chipman Lawrence on the Whaler Addison, 1856-1860
Life Among the Pirates: The Romance and the Reality
>>7366778
DFW was drunk/being a meme probably. Just like how I feel most of his lit fans are when they post.
>>7366753
Oh I don't live there. I live about 40 minutes away in a safer lit-friendly area
In the midst of ordering
>Storm - George Stewart
>Pure - Andrew Miller
>Ficciones - Jorge Luis Borges
>The Corner - David Simon
>Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt - Hedges, Sacco
r8 m80s?
picked them up two days ago. Im in love with The Dialogues of Plato.
>>7365657
They are books on the sociology of online communities. Kinda applying social theory to online interactions.It's my PHD topic so it's a big deal to me and not to anyone who actually matters!
DESU, reading http://www.aaai.org/ocs/index/ICWSM/ICWSM11/paper/viewFile/2873/4398 or https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/12204/phillips_housethatfoxbuilt_2012.pdf?sequence%3D1 would be way more relevant to e/lit/ists. These two badboys are more abstract and theoretical.
>>7365790
very nice, how much
>>7367642
Ann Arbor
>>7366758
When did this edition come out?
When will the 1,500 page version come out, before all the Pietsch cuts and edits? That seems like an eventuality.
>>7367642
sure, I'll do my best to!
I'm researching into masculinties. Current theory on gender is that we learn it socially, and perform it for social benefits. I'm asking the question, what happens when the social that is being learnt from and being performed in is online?
The differences are usually portrayed as a lack of para-linguistic features and an inability to socialise physically (like with macho sports). Compared to this, I'm using TheRedPill and Bronies to show that if the social group abstracts themselves from the physical then they can have equally close relationships and equally effective (whilst also being totally different) forms of masculinity being performed and taught. MLP preaches love and tolerance while sexualising the characters and TRP has whole guides on how to be a man through independence and rational choice theory.
My work is in using big data analytics to back up these findings rather than just using shitty, soft gender-studies bullshit. With the massive amounts of data out there, the opportunity for statistical tests is massive.
... that's what I do and what's interesting about it to me, hope it made sense!
If you reallly want to read more about this then there's a great book called 'coming of age in second life'. It's a seminal work and kinda set the stage for all cms work afterwards. Either that, the two papers I posted PDFs of or this paper:
> Dowsett, G. W., Williams, H., Ventuneac, A., & Carballo-Diéguez, A. (2008). Taking it like a man': Masculinity and barebacking online. Sexualities, 11(1-2), 121-141.
are great ways into the field. Or if you want something closer to what I'm doing then check out:
>Ellis, B. (2015). What bronies See When They brohoof: Queering Animation on the Dark and evil internet. Journal of American Folklore, 128(509), 298-314.
>>7368498
Sounds scary yet relevant. I'll check out some of this when I get to university and have access to some of the journals relevant. I'd be more than happy to keep this going m8.
>>7368703
NP man, What's your degree in? Glad to hear you've an athens account, was worried seeing as the last two articles are behind paywalls.
>>7367722
I got it for $4.75 on half priced books. I looked other places to buy it and it is either dirt cheap or too expensive. The copy I bought was practically new.
>>7368095
I'm near Ann Arbor, it looks interesting.
I just picked up First Snow on Fuji, a collection of short stories by Kawabata.
>>7368725
Political Science Undergrad with a Minor in International Studies. Also working on a Gender and Women's Studies minor but the program isn't funding and it's basically the History department chair making it work via sheer concentrated power of will.
I only knew I'd be able to get into the Brony one on campus since it was Project Muse. I'll have to check the one on barebacking as well as the previous articles to see if they are journals we subscribe to.
Selfportrait by Édouard Levé and The end of Phenomenology by Tom Sparrow. The latter was kind of an impulse, but it seems okay.
But I've promised my gf not to buy anymore books for the time being, so I'm trying to resist the urges, and stick to the library (and the occasional shame of a download).
>>7368806
>>7368833
Fuck knows what it's called. I'm part of my uni's digital humanities lab but it's such a new thing that titles are really disorgoinsed.
Interested to hear what you think about the papers.
>>7368870
Just got out of class and am working on some separate issues. I'm a bit busy with a simulation regarding medical marijuana legislation in addition to a couple of end of semester term papers that have got me in a bind lately. Perhaps starting Monday or so I'll be able to sit down and read what is before me.
I guess I'll label it something like 4chanities (4chan Humanities).
>>7368870
So then are you getting a PhD in Digital Humanities or what is your PhD subject area if that is not the case?
i fucking love my local oxfam
>>7370030
>that neuromancer
MEIN NIGGA
>>7369644
gender studies but it's not the kind that will land me a gender studies teaching position. It's digital humanities. I applied before the college of arts and humanities had a digital lab, they moved me there because I was the one doing the research.
>>7370396
Teach me your ways family. I'm starting to look into Graduate and PhD programs as well as potential areas of research I might want to pursue.
>>7368816
I really enjoyed Autoportrait and Suicide. Definitely recent favorites.
Library was selling books off for a quarter. I just grabbed what I could in the madness. Some good some bad
>>7370893
House of Leaves is the only one there anyone would contest as being "bad".
>>7370893
Good job family. Looks great mate.
Bump. Family misses Digital Humanities Dad.
>>7370893
I'm listening to a thing about Emma right now, I own the same copy of King Lear
nice
>>7370030
>oxfam
YOOOOOOOOOO!
>>7371881
Thank god for charity shops keeping second hand book sales alive!
>>7370030
I never got Neuromancer but if you're into cyberpunk people say it's the place to start. If you like it then maybe try SnowCrash, I'm not sure whether it's genuine or a parody but Snowcrash says interesting things about the genre... so I'm told.
>>7370441
>>7371580
My database is corrupting so I'm not having the best of days I'm afraid.
Reccomendations for grad and PHD choices/plans? Do what you love, like really get obsessed with it. I loved to program and find patterns so that's what I've got good at because I spend my time doing it. I bet there's something you love equally, something that given amphetamines, you'd spend all your time doing.
Beyond your passion, look for introducing new things to the field. I was lucky that gender studies scholars are retards who didnt even do basic stats and beleive coding is black magic. Look at current trends (in Pol and IR I'm guessing it's terrorism, neostatism and the return of the far right but anything topical is worth funding) and invest your time in finding something to obsess about in these current trends.
Regarding making a living out of it, dont expect money, that's why you have a passion. Suck professors dick (metaphorically) and make friends. If you ever really like or are really provoked by something you read I'd really recommend emailing the author, most accademics are love deprived perfectionists and appealing to this side of them will make them your bitch. Keep these contacts and you're in a better place for getting PHD supervisors and insights into work your lecturer is setting.
Good luck, when you make it into your funded PHD then get on /hist/ or here and make a book haul thread, maybe there will be a youngling looking for the same answers I wasnt able to give you.
>>7371939
Ohh no what happened exactly? I had my harddrive crash on my laptop after 6 years right at the end of the semester and ended up having to start from scratch on a lot of things. That meant I was pumping out roughly a decent sized research paper per day.
I'll be out for a few hours before I'll be checking back in to lit but I'd love to talk more about this family.
So wait you love programming yet got involved with a PhD in Gender Studies? Surely there has to be a story behind this?
Hist is pol 2.0 from what I hear so I'll stay here thanks. :P
>>7365673
And here's my payday-probably-irresponsible TB order for today.
Including all the discounts and coupons, all these (24) were only $75. I'm sure I could get them cheaper if I wanted to leave the house, but, I don't.
>>7372434
>Leaving the house
What for? That's not comfy mate.
>>7368498
>phd about sociology of online communities
cool
>about gender studies and bronies
oh
I'm a fucking retard so I didn't realize "large print edition" was going to be the size of a fucking coffee table book.
I guess it works though because The Ego is the ultimate coffee table book.
You faggots talk about him so much that it seemed only right that I get a handle on what he's saying...
>evola get
what am I in for?
>>7372796
>Not having a handsome exquisite Nubian slave boy dressed in mere cloth hold the book out in front for you.
What are you?
A post-colonial pleb?
>>7372767
>getting triggered by people studying and writing about things
pathetic tqbh
>>7372971
>You faggots
"We" don't.
>what am I in for?
literally /x/
>>7373045
>getting triggered by someone not giving a shit about your phd
I'm back. I suppose I might take a comfy nap for a bit and if so then I'll probably look at those Digital Humanities articles once I wake up family. For now though I plan to just chill and watch the various forums.
>>7366960
i dig your taste, man
Bumperino
>>7372767
>Not understanding how the periphery of topical issues contributes to the general holistic study of the sub-field.
>Shoots something down because of the basic assumptions made about the particular topics within the research instead of waiting and seeing said research in order to address its level of sophistication and overall merit.
>>7372767
>not being interested in the psychological and scientific evolution and impact of visible subcultures in what could be considered the closest thing to an uncontrolled environment available.
What?
>>7376041
>>7376041
Nah. Just someone else who sees an argument for the the poor fellow's PhD and path of study.
I'd honestly like to see some of his written works before I passed full judgement.
>>7376050
Same. For Digital Humanities Dad (The guy writing about bronies and barebacking buttsex) do you happen do have a scholar page via your university or at least some forum by which we might examine your works?
>>7376288
lol, nope. Not posting any identifying info here.
Love you guys but not worth people knowing I hang on 4chan. Gotta cover your back yo.
I've got two papers out under my name so if you keep on at the reading you'll come across me. I think I'd rather you work on defending the legitimacy of the research field and the discipline rather than one washed up researcher on /lit/.
>>7372767
I get that it's not all that cool a subject but when you think about whether these types of masculinity are typical then it should make sense that someone is looking into why the fuck so many guys are watching MLP (beyond being just autistic)
>>7375955
>>7375972
If only that was how accademia worked guys, we're all just marketeers looking to persuade people to pay us. If only we were having a larger impact but in the end, we're out for ourselves and our own oblique obsessions. Please don't romanticise us, kids might stop wanting to make something of their life.
>>7376329
>marketeers looking to persuade people to pay us
As someone that has wanted to be a deep sea marine biologist, realizing that I'd be eternally tethered to corporations and their motivations, looking to make a profit, instead of being free to study for the love of furthering human knowledge broke my little, idealistic heart.
>>7376329
Come on family we've got to know what you are up to.
It's not like we are going to tie you into the site and rake you over the proverbial coals.
We'd have no idea it was you though when we came across you and considering you are researching the digital humanities it'd only make since you are on 4chan delving further into your subject of research.
>>7376371
it's ok mate, the ivory tower is just a facade, there is nowhere where you can be free to further human knowledge. Such is capitalism.
Teaching, to me, seems the best option for getting to work for yourself but, in the end, the kids are there just to earn money and you're only there to make them stay long enough for their loans to clear.
In the end I try to hide from the reality and the thoughts of how I'm only important as a moneymaker and believe that I'm some greek idealist exploring patterns.
>>7376387
My 10 year old self still cried, man. It was some real catcher in the rye shit. Too sad.
>>7376371
I know this feel :_(
>>7376399
>Real Catcher in the Rye shit
>Made your ten year old self cry and it was too sad
That book was insufferable and only made me irritated since it was required high school drivel.
>>7366960
>2015
>Plato and fascist Social Contract
>No Aristotle
Ok buddy
>>7372796
I find the idea of someone just having a copy of The Ego on their coffee table hilarious. That should be a trend: dense philosophy designed to provoke small talk. I'd order a few copies of the Critique and some Derrida in no time.
>>7376416
Eh. Catcher in the Rye is pretty polarizing. I think it's an excellent portrayal of the fruitless struggle against the inevitability of adulthood, but a lot of people seem to dislike it.
btw, I meant that my previous post was some catcher in the rye shit. As in, it's an obvious "grown-up" fact of reality that I thought was stupid.
>>7376439
It just seems like general high school angst tier stuff that would appeal to the average high school though the average student at my school and myself who has been through some despair and angst found it to be cheap and artificial at best.
Ahh makes sense family. I feel you and see where you are coming from.
I still want to know more about digital humanities dad and have him take me in under his wing.
Anything more advice in terms of articles or professors that might be considered pre-eminent in this particularly sub field of digital humanities or at least the field in general?
>>7365568
>buying physical books to fool other idiots you are well read
Digital Humanities Dad I'm just curious but have you checked out the works of Sherry Turkle by chance?
Took a run to the local used book store today.
>>7366960
>Quixote
>Reading it in english
>>7377549
>learning an entire language just to read a few books in their original language
why?
>>7365568
Just got these in the mail earlier this week. My Bely collection is growing.
>>7365568
I recently got all these at various thrift stores for a total of about 18 or 19 dollars.
>tfw less than 100 dollars spent on books in the last 2 months
>tfw have more than 100 new books in the last months
recently tho i got Confessions of a Mask, Ed the Happy Clown, and a collection of Cortazor's short stories
>>7378223
bumperino. loving the father/son dynamic here between brony dad and /pol/ son.
perform for me bitches
>>7378540
This,
>>7372434
I had no idea this website existed, do they ship to Europe?
>>7378671
Ok they do but it's expensive as hell.
/lit/ where to get cheap books in English if you live in Sweden? I mean libraries have sales and so, but most often that's only Swedish books.
From a couple of charity shops this Friday/Saturday. Not picture: generic hardback complete oscar wilde I picked up to finish the 4 fro £2 deal.
>>7378614
>and others judge us
ur doing it wrong mate.
>>7377460
Yeah, she's important in online gender but she's pretty outdated. I've argued against her theory that online geek-talk is still a patriarchal context. If she catches your eye then check out Lori Kendall then read
>Morris, M., & Anderson, E. (2015). ‘Charlie Is So Cool Like’: Authenticity, Popularity and Inclusive Masculinity on YouTube. Sociology, 0038038514562852.
it's modern and I, personally, agree with it.
>>7376461
under wing? fuck that kid, go out and find your own passion. I cant tell you what that is.
> I bet there's something you love equally, something that given amphetamines, you'd spend all your time doing.
>>7376693
basic digital humanities theory is best summed up by
>Berry, D. M. (2012). Understanding digital humanities. Palgrave Macmillan.
because it's written by people who actually know how to code and have their shit together.
In online gender? I've mentioned all the top authors:
>Turkle
>Kendall
>Berry and his new dpmt at Sussex
>Anderson and his trainees
>maybe look at things coming out of the oxford internet institute.
I don't know about what's going on across the pond but the feminist bullshit seems to be holding you yanks back from making any qualitative movement.
DESU, get on google scholar and look into the search terms about political culture and online communities.
>Van Dijck, J., & Poell, T. (2013). Understanding social media logic. Media and Communication, 1(1), 2-14.
is something I dug up from my archive after you mentioned you were in political science, it covers all the main bases. It asks 'can online spaces become a "public sphere" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sphere).
That's where I would start. Sorry for being slow to respond, was finding the data that caused a buffer overflow in my database and swearing alot.
>>7378673
http://www.bookdepository.com/
>>7378827
>Anderson, E.
do be careful about this guy though,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2926064/Titchmarsh-gay-lecturer-row-teenage-sex-TV-host-slams-professor-beds-youths.html
Just saying.
>>7378827
>under wing? fuck that kid, go out and find your own passion. I cant tell you what that is.
Doesn't hurt for someone to learn from someone who sounds like they will be the next generation of this field which is starting to draw my attention.
>I don't know about what's going on across the pond but the feminist bullshit seems to be holding you yanks back from making any qualitative movement.
100% agree with this. As a Gender and Women's Studies minor who goes completely against the orthodoxy.
>That's where I would start. Sorry for being slow to respond, was finding the data that caused a buffer overflow in my database and swearing alot.
It seems to be worth it since there are a lot of jumping off points and I'd honestly be interested in specific threads or other ways to discuss these matters with you in greater detail. Thanks family.
>>7379220
>specific threads or other ways to discuss these matters with you in greater detail
I'm more than willing to get some kind of semi-organised reading group set up. Kinda like a article-club. Share insights, offer suggestions and critique each other?
I'm not going to post any contact deets here so I'd really recommend you email the authors who catch your fancy. I might have dropped my work in there so who knows, you might stumble across me!
That's kinda what I mean by being against people being under my wing, go out there and get as many wings as you can get! With the right contacts you'll be waltzing your way into a funded PHD.
I've not been in a /lit/ reading group before, is there interest in them, do they work? If so then do we have a central doc where we organised and chat?
>>7379316
I'm not sure what exactly we'd critique each other but that sounds like a great clearing house for ideas and information worthy of exploring.
Lol that makes me tempted to ask every author in every footnote if they are familiar with four chan (via an alternate email of couse).
Any suggestion as to previous professors you've reached out to that were particularly receptive to advising and confessing with plebes like me? I think as of this summer I'll have to start looking at Graduate / PhD path plans so I need to at least start testing the waters right about now.
I've never been in a /lit/ group either but I'd be interested in a topical more article based one since I feel like that would be a lot more manageable than a book club sort of thing like I've seen in the past. I would love a sort of chat group similiar to a google docs maybe where I could actually get to know more, growing and developing off of others instead of bouncing from thread to thread.
>>7380668
if the op is here i just want to say if you had anything else besides a master's thesis to cite i would
>>7381438
hmm lol wut?
Ready your sick bags senpai
>>7372434
And I got more books today at HPB..
I guess I caught the Folio bug. Greek Myths is already probably the cheapest FS thing, and was only $5 with the muffed up slipcase. I think I'm going to try to complete my "Short Stories" set next, since I already have the Japanese anthology.
>>7372434
What is this website?
>>7384146
Thrift Books
>>7384235
Thrift Book Shop
Now selling the New York Times bestseller: "The Art of Macklemore" featuring an introduction and additional commentary by Tao Lin.
The little shop in the back of my library was having a clear-out, picked up some assorted nonsense at 50 cents/paperback and 1.50 for the big fella at the bottom.
Hopefully we get digital humanities dad back in here and can get that thread and other things going to we can bring in better hauls.
Who here /shopliftsfrombarnesandnoble/
>>7385400
Despicable people do so eh about probably 40% of this thread or so.
>>7385777
What makes the people itt despicable?
>>7385792
Not even putting down a small sum for it via a used bookstore or thrift shop and thereby supporting the literary community writ large.
>>7385795
I meant what makes you assume that about the 40% of this thread you say shoplifts.
I read in English, but I live in France, so most of what I find in libraries and used bookstores are translations...
I often find cool stuff, and it really pisses me off to know that if it just was in its original language I'd gladly put it on my shelf...
>>7370030
>le Carre
>Iain Banks
Shit-tier britbrong trash.
Not pictured because they're at home:
Faulkner - Light in August
Dostoyevsky - Notes from Underground
Beckett - Waiting for Godot
Joyce - A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
>>7385804
Ohh no idea just a rough guesstimate about how many people have done it at least once.
Just got this in the mail.
>>7386196
Looks fucking spoopy mate.
>>7386537
You're going to make me buy more books.
>>7386545
Mission Accomplished.
>>7386567
Ayyy lmao.
>>7366758
Interested in this edition. where 2 cop?
I always buy books and never end up reading them - I'm making it a new rule that I have to finish everything I currently own before buying more.
>>7368498
>My work is in using big data analytics
How is your work using big data? Or are you just throwing around buzzwords
>The Road to Serfdom on USA Amazon: $30.00
>The Road to Serfdom on UK Amazon: £90.00
Okay, what the actual fuck? I wanted to start actually buying some books rather than just pirating them for my PC/reader, but this isnt helping at all.
And no, I cant go bargain hunting, I live in a slav country and there is zero chance to find cheap books in english here.
>>7386956
What a terrible image. There's like 5 thing on that garbage picture that deserve the title of "Greatest Artistic Achievement" for their respective field. The rest do not.
>>7377583
That's not how it works. You don't learn a new language so you can read books in their original language; reaing books in their original language is part of the joy of learning a new language.
Gosh, I just said 'language' like ten million times.
>>7377583
what else would you learn a language for
>>7386956
>No Gravity Falls
>No Over the Garden Wall
>No Hayao Miyazaki
>Naruto
>>7386956
Cow and Chicken was shit. Disappointed by the lack of adventure time on that image to be honest family.
>>7386948
Digital Humanities Dad please return so we can get more specifics on your research and can cooperatively learn together in digital society. <3
I also want to develop the idea of a Digital Humanities reading group thread further.
>>7386997
It's a bait image. No one in their right mind would ever put Totally Spies on any kind of positive list. Also, fuck Adventure Time, if anything replace Cow and Chicken with Rockos Modern Life.
>>7387011
Adventure time is one of the few things keeping Cartoon Network alive right now. Lol I actually didn't mind Totally Spies growing up as a child. I was a weird kid though. Bait wars can be amusing. Did it for teh lolz.
>>7387017
>Lol I actually didn't mind Totally Spies growing up as a child. I was a weird kid though. Bait wars can be amusing. Did it for teh lolz.
>>7385795
Woah, slow down. I also do this, it's my main source for books. However, if they don't have it and I'm broke (which is always), it's off to Barnes and Noble.
>>7387017
you are scum
>>7387027
>Not having an occasional wank over Alex in Totally Spies becoming all muscular and shit.
>>7387150
don't start with me. Alex can kiss my ass. Bicky all the way.
>>7387150
Dem tit muscles though.
