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▶ Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶ Trans Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
▶ Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶ HRT info: https://web.archive.org/web/0000000000000/http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶Gallery full of cis women of all heights and weights and body shapes to make you feel better about yourself: http://www.mybodygallery.com/
▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
▶ Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968

> No bullying
> No hugboxing
> No *actions*
> No drama

Let's do our best, girls!
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>tfw none of the women in mybodygallery look like u
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>tfw ur a girl

: )
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can we please stop with the transfeminine nonsense? the people here seem to barely fucking tolerate by the books semi-passers as it is
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>>6533642
edie was talking about being nb so its ok to be nb now
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Was there an mtfg discord at some point or did it fall apart?
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>>6533649
I had a sort of androgynous phase of just dressing to fit my body for a while, and not getting all muh pronouns or dressing more feminine than I deserve. Still pretty sure I would have had to murder anyone who referred to me as "transfeminine" during that time of my life.
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>>6533653
theres like 10 of them
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>>6533653
there's a bunch and they all suck
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>>6533653
There's the Calzone Zone, /cutetrans/, some people's personal discords, and god knows what else
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>>6533671
make tc
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>tfw useless and can't even make ur bf a decent breakfast before you send him off to work
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>>6533666
People take drugs to listen to music more intently or enjoy food more. Why should it be different for anime?
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>>6533671
I like one of the one's I'm in but it's s e c r e t
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>>6533653
/cutetrans/
The Calzone Zone
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>>6533672
people keep putting +transfeminine in our thread titles.
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>>6533635
>In hot weather i wear as little as possible
>>6533647
>cold weather fashion
warm weather is challenging even though you wear less

showing skin takes getting used to

>>6533639
hey, where have you been?
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>>6533674
still @ /therapedungeon
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Only men use /cutetrans/
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>>6533675

Practice then, silly.
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How many kids are just here roll playing? Most of you folk do not act like girls, men, or women. Perhaps I've just aged out, but it seems about a 70% majority just being cis or gay BOYS.

Why is this? Is this just my own perception? Could someone without autism chime in?
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>>6533665
It seems like a good idea but I wasn't sure if it would work out well. Are any still active?
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>>6533685
I've been practicing for years though. ........

I used to cook for my dad a lot, but i dunno, he must've had been able to stomach it better
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>>6533687
Guess this was already answered wow this thread moves quick
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If Rachel is professionally diagnosed with autism, I wonder if no one ever told her to acknowledge that her cognitions and emotions are limited and she should reserve judgement about other people more often.
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>>6533686
>Could someone without autism chime in?
do you even know where you are?
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>>6533660
It's no wonder why you don't have a bf. Most men don't watch anime unless they are fat, have a neckbeard, fedora and katana
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>>6533686
I roleplay being a girl sometimes but then people don't switch back to treating me as a dude? Fucking hormones, I never should have gone down the method acting route for this prank.
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>>6533693
different anon, but cooking is easy as hell.
you are prob just a lazy
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>>6533676
Recreational drugs sure, but ritalin is medication for adhd.
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>>6533686
Passing is hard desu

Like going outside and passing every moment of every day, it's kinda hard and it hurts when you get clocked

So ppl just go, fuck it Im a boy and somehow the dysphoria doesn't bother them worse
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>>6533682
>warm weather is challenging even though you wear less
>showing skin takes getting used to
yeah plus i have some scars on my chest i'd have to put makeup on or something
so
idk
Summer is half way over so I'm just focusing on fall/winter fashion rn so I'll be ready when that hits
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>>6533686
Practically everyone here grew up being socialized as boys, and they can't rewrite their entire human development just because they came out. Also, you are sort of sexist.
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>>6533676
weed and anime is the best way to spend your night desu
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>>6533686
maybe some aren't "trutrans", i'd expect anyone with autsitci personality traits. but thats all impossible to prove and if it makes someone happier who cares?
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>>6533686
>roll playing
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>>6533642
>>6533649

:x
honestly i suppose i understand the terminology and how it relates to any trans person who is more feminine? but the people who have majorly identified with it that i've known, since it's more of a recent thing, kind of confuse me. the whole demigender pangender otherkin genderfluid thing confuses me a lot because it sort of implies that your gender is entirely outside of the binary, or something that just changes at will. if anything i'd feel more like my gender is a combination of both. it's all just semantics anyways tho and i'm sure many people would say i am transfeminine in the same way they'd say i'm a shemale or transvestite or drag queen. they're just labels. people use words to relate to themselves in the best way they can to try to understand themselves. so as long as everyone understands themselves and how they're different, and they're comfortable with that, i don't see the issue.
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>>6533700
I'm not lazy, i try, for real, and i keep the kitchen clean by myself, I'm just not very adept at anything, and im kinda stupid, i try really hard though
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>>6533702
It's also used as a recreational drug by some.
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>>6533704
Except you passed when we went to that restaurant in Knoxville
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>>6533676
I find it makes it harder to focus on watching stuff on stimulants, I can focus on a task but I want to be up and moving. Also somehow taking drugs to enjoy food more seems counterintuitive if talking about uppers.

>>6533702
So is amphetamine. Both can be taken recreationally if you ignore the prescribed dosages.

>>6533686
Idk about u but I'm just a gayboy on hormones, it's other people's fault for constantly gendering me female.
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>>6533686
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9uEtplq6CI
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I know people believe I'm not going to kill myself and they're right.
Though I do want to do to spite my mom and a few others
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>>6533721
Eh, it was just the long hair metalkid look, i doubt a lot of boys look like that there
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>>6533717
i wasn't being sarcastic
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How delusional am I for hoping Persona 5 lets you date boys?
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>>6533702
Ritalin is stimulant, and a decent drug. It's almost like caffeine without side effects.
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>>6533686
get a load of this faggot
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>>6533696
Are you on or do you plan to be on hormones, do you suffer from gender dysphoria? Or on the inverse, are you relatively comfortable in the body you are in, satisfied (despite awkwardness we all carry on 4chan) with the way people treat you as a result, and the way you feel about yourself overall, while perhaps negative isn't as a result of feeling desire/need to be the other gender and if possibility presented, other "sex".

I feel like a lot of the people here are more interested in speaking to gender girls, speaking to other boys, and acting out a fantasy they saw on an anime.


Now I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it or trying to Witch hunt, by all means it can continue.

I just wonder how many are Trans vs roll playing here or just hanging out.
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>>6533730
>wanting to date boys
gross
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>>6533726
Fake your own death. It's a win-win situation.
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nim is sad
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>>6533728
Well you still need to visit me
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>>6533737
why nim? 3:
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>>6533734
mtfg demographics:
trutrans - 20%
role players - 50%
people just hanging out - 30%
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>>6533686

stop being so judgmental desu.. i've literally been wearing dresses and doing every stereotypical socially dictated feminine thing on earth for years and because of that i've always been referred to as she and seen as a woman. and i don't even feel that way. presentation doesn't mean much.

>>6533729

wat

>>6533739

i was trying to say that labels are dumb but it helps ppl so who cares ;_;
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>>6533726
To spite me?

But we have to go to the mirrored glory hole maze and give free srs to all the qts
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>>6533734
i don't think its any of your business to be judging who should transition and who shouldn't. that's up to the medical professionals and honestly- it's up to one's own self-determination too.

this is america ffs, baka
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>>6533732
kayla ur a good tomato c:
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>>6533737
I'm sorry nim, i am too

Is no consolation
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>>6533734
we're all trans you fucking moron, just cuz we don't have laurasplayground tier tea parties doesn't mean we ain't trans.
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>>6533734
I'm here for stealth RP.
I know of two other people who are but I'll leave it up to them if they want to come forward and reveal themselves.
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>>6533726
You could just kill those people instead !!!
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>>6533747
No, just mt mom and a few friends not including you
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>>6533745
>tfw trutrans
It's a small consolation
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>>6533753
Jail isn't worth it
It's bad enough I can't bring myself to suicide but I just want to die
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>>6533759
Mommy!
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>>6533759
I'm sorry I don't know what you're talking about, can you elaborate?
Are you saying these two are haters?
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>>6533749
i'm the best tomato
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>>6533748
>medical professionals

AKA mostly gatekeepers
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>>6533743
i got no willpower
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>>6533762
>having faye as a playmom
You done fucked up.
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>>6533755
But being trutrans sucks :<
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>>6533759

you were just scared to live as a woman, and never even tried regardless of your feelings that you are one. there's a difference.
that's my point. if anything you're the shining example of fear that people need to overcome to live authentically, and the people here who haven't gotten over that are in the stage the anon is referring to.
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>>6533760
You can do it Angie!
I believe in you!
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>>6533759
fuck off ya poncey cunt i never even knew who you were until 2 months ago
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How do I get more feminine pubic hair?
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>>6533771
boobs seem like a nice consolation prize though
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>>6533766
>tomatos are plant ovaries
trutrans af
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>>6533766
Can I cut you up and put you in a BLT and eat you?
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>>6533759
>my non binary gender expression
Since when?
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>>6533774
you make going full time out to be easy when in fact its the single most hardest endeavor a human can struggle through. Just because all the stuck up minions of yours have money for endless surgery and cosmetics doesn't mean we all do.
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>>6533777
feed it hormones
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>>6533780
ew fuck dat


>>6533779
>ovaries
p-please don't use that word ;_;
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>>6533787
i lov u mommy
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>>6533767
>AKA mostly gatekeepers

HERE'S A THOUGHT

maybe if a trained medical professional is "gatekeeping" you, maybe they know what they're doing and you should hear them out?

Or, IDK, get a second opinion from another medical professional?

"Gatekeeping" is just a word used by those who think they're smarter than their physicians/psychiatrists
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LIKE
SEVERAL OTHER NON BINARY PEOPLE (aside from EDIE ) HAVE COME TO THE THREADS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS

PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF YOU EXIST
FUCK YOURSELVES and QUIT BEING OBNOXIOUS SWCM

AND
I'm no expert on gender exploration, but "transfeminine" IS PROBABLY IDK
A AMAB PERSON EXPRESSING THEM SELVES IN A MANNER THAT INCLUDES BUT ISN'T LIMITED TO TAKING HORMONES OR PRESENTING AS FEMALE

ARE ALL OF YOU DAFT OR??????

I should just start naming the threads "MtR" but that would imply you weren't ALWAYS retarded
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>>6533787
oh so edie and rachel are basically hypocrites
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>>6533785

you don't live with your parents, and i've seen you wear quite a bit of makeup in your photos, so. i don't see how that even relates to you. care to elaborate?
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>>6533769
aw ;__;
don't worry, I barely have any myself.
>>6533776
Lay off her a bit...
>>6533787
*hugs*
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>>6533790
im sorry :c
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>>6533797
oh.. um... never mind then
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>>6533785
its actually pretty easy, you're just a little pussy bitch

>implying Edie or I have had any surgeries
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>>6533801
i want to comfort a panicking kayla with cuddles and reassuring words
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>this fucking thread

think im gonna go take a nap

come cuddle me angie, nim, parrot
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>tfw off work for the weekend

h*eck yeah! im thinking about skipping church tomorrow. still mildly annoyed about what happened Thursday night
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>>6533794
Is your keyboard broken?
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>>6533778
>doomed to experience occasional bouts of dysphoria and self hatred for the remainder of my natural life
>but boobs
Could be worse I guess.

>>6533794
Ur cruise control is on.
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>>6533809
I cant even go near churches anymore, they creep me the fuck out
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>>6533809
what happened thursday night?
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>>6533748
>medical professionals

I've met enough of medical professionals to know that a lot of them are full of shit and often enough they are not fit to diagnose you properly. There's a reason trans groups recommend psychologists who are ready to give you a gender dysphoria diagnosis immediately. The only reason medical professionals should ever second-guess someone's gender identity is psychosis and some cases of pervasive personality disorder.
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Kayla how many femskins do you have
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>>6533774
I relate with both of them too much.
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>>6533813
Having boobs is great. hrt is the best thing thats happened to me in the past year
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>6533793
No... there is a serious problem with the medical establishment as it stands.
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>>6533806
Hair removal counts as surgery in my book. I only had 3 sessions of electrolysis because im broke af. Also I am totally ready to go full time and my clinic has all my legal shit filled out. only thing holding me back is my facial hair and I ain't going full time with a beard.
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>>6533793
I also believe in standards of care
b/c who wants to be a failed tranny and/or detrans later w regret that you waisted your prime years
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>>6533697
but my good friend quentin watches animus and he's not fat, doesnt have a neckbeard, or a fedora, or a katana
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>>6533813
that animu character kinda looks like you
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>>6533794

i hate even saying this but it's prob because i've been in the threads so long and have had so much random attention put on me through my own drama and issues and extreme prevalence in the threads (i.e. posting 24 hours a day at one point) that ppl would acknowledge my gender expression more. i don't think it means that the ppl here are just rude or don't approve of other people's lives or choices. in fact everyone has been beyond nice. it just gets hard to break into that kinda thing when you're not some trip that posts here. which is dumb. i'm sry.

>>6533801

lmao! i'm js. you have the capability to live full time, and you don't. if not living that way makes you happy, then...ok. don't. but don't pretend like you can't.

>>6533822

same
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>>6533818
>The only reason medical professionals should ever second-guess someone's gender identity is psychosis and some cases of pervasive personality disorder.
those things are probably a lot more common than you think they are. more common than being actually transsexual anyway.

>>6533816
>I've always been non binary
K E K
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>>6533813
>Ur cruise control is on.
>cool control
ftfy
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>>6533793
>go to ic clinic
>tell them u want hormones
>"ok"
>get hormones

:)
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>>6533816
You're non-binary? Good for you :3
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>>6533814
mine is pretty alright the vast majority of the time

>>6533815
one of the pastors during alter call prayed for me to "be healed of my affliction of gender confusion" and it really really annoyed me. i didn't say anything but it really bothered me.

>>6533819
i-ill go next week i promise ;;
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>>6533830
hey tell your friend i love his movies
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>>6533830
I know! It's like not everyone is stereotype!
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>>6533790
Okay okay, can I just eat you out then?
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>>6533793


You absolutely must be an American. Throughout this thread you speak with authority you don't hold. Shut the fuck up.
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>>6533807
or you can just give me a box of this. I have had nausea and constant migraines for a week.
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>>6533839
>"be healed of my affliction of gender confusion"
Why would you even go back to church after that?
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>>6533840
okay he'll be glad to hear it

>>6533841
exactly my point you wet blanket
let me animepost in peace
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>>6533808
where u at bb
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>>6533832
>it just gets hard to break into that kinda thing when you're not some trip that posts here. which is dumb. i'm sry.
you're just a narcissist, and this is exactly what she's saying
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>>6533840
pleb af
>>6533843
>you must be American

is it possible to be more smug over nothing
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>>6533843
>Throughout this thread you speak with authority you don't hold.

What is that about?
it feels like shes giving us the ol'
>pic related
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>>6533848
>exactly my point
Yeah, I was agreeing with you.

>wet blanket
low blow
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>>6533831
Not even close, I don't resemble kurisu at all, short of being accused of being tsundere.

>>6533836
Tyvm :3

>>6533824
Yeah, for all my bitching and complaining I actually think hormones are the best thing that ever happened to me.
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>>6533850
Mostly Good :3
Yours?
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>>6533852
anon please dont be rude
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>>6533842
>Okay okay, can I just eat you out then?
how does that even work

>>6533832
living like this makes me miserable but I am saving the funds to get what I need to go fulltime.
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>>6533834
You're right. Maybe you should stop hormones and get psychiatrically tested for them! Just to make sure!

>>6533839
>one of the pastors during alter call prayed for me to "be healed of my affliction of gender confusion" and it really really annoyed me
Stop going there
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>>6533861
I stick my tongue in your butt DUH
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>>6533857
okay but then why make this post >>6533697
in the first place ya huge dingus
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>>6533858
uh what are some of the first effects you noticed while on hrt
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>>6533847
there's more than one pastor there (3 actually) and there's alot of loving kind ppl that attend that have been nothing but nice to me. but more importantly, having faith has helped me overcome some really difficult shit over the last few years. it's become a core part of who i am and i dont wanna let one thing I didn't like destroy my faith ya know?
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>>6533851

>tfw before i ever started posting on 4chan i went by the pseudonym narcissus

i mean.....................................
i just don't see what that has to do with someone saying some ppl here aren't acknowledging non-binary people.

>>6533861

well that's great then!! i'm happy for you. ^_^
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>>6533818
And even then, the same shrink who diagnosed me with psychosis was pretty enthusiastic about signing a SRS referral letter... I'm not schizophrenic, I'm melancholic. My psychosis isn't about being trans at all... So, she was pretty convinced my transition could only decrease my stress and improve my life.
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>>6533866
That wasn't me senpai.
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>>6533853
i mean, it's pretty obvious that rachel is one of the smartest people who comes here. i just can't tell if she's trolling or being serious half the time
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>>6533871
then why respond to me at all

sheesh you nerds
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>>6533834
Rachel, you are talking out of your ass. Psychosis is not only rare, it is also very apparent if someone cannot distinguish make-believe from reality. And in cases of personality disorders that lead people to falsely assess their gender identity, it would still be a very small minority of people who are dissatisfied with their gender presentation. If they are suffering from a personality disorder like this, it would become apparent in just a few sessions.
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>>6533853
Practically all of you but her are stupid though.....
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>>6533866
Thx for the advice last night bb. I have been back in the gym lately but my diet still sux. Point taken about the jewelry too.
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>>6533869
>well that's great then!! i'm happy for you. ^_^

whoa hold the FUCKING PHONE!

is this encouragement from dollface aimed at me??? this is a a new feel
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>>6533863
i already did all that tho

>>6533866
this is by far one of the dumbest mtfg threads i've ever seen

still better than ERPing tho
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>>6533863
well ill def never go up to alter call again. that crap bothered the crap outta me and i wanted to say something really badly but i also didn't wanna be disrespectful and interrupt a prayer.
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>>6533873
I am bored
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>>6533834
>I don't feel non-binary therefore it does not exist

Maybe the official autistic shouldn't be the ones to judged other people's identities, Rachel.
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>>6533867
The first effect I noticed was a mental calming and overall improvement in mood. After a month I noticed softer skin. Idk the exact point that breast growth started because I had gyno.
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>>6533865
no thanks
ew
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oh shoot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8uKazrF2r8
does /mtfg/ like RLM?
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>>6533878
ty anon. im gunna stay the course even if it's a little annoying at times :P

desu i think the church in general is completely uninformed about transpeople so he just assumed wrongly and earnestly tried to help. it was misguided but i can at least appreciate the genuine concern
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>>6533884
>Maybe the official autistic shouldn't be the ones to judged other people's identities
did you just have a stroke?

and what on earth are you talking about, when have you ever seen me deny the existence of non-binary people? i'm just shitting on faye because she has literally never identified herself as non-binary before
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>>6533885
oh

seems nice..
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But this givenchy though....
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>>6533881
>i already did all that tho
Every single psychiatric disorder? You sure?

>>6533882
>but i also didn't wanna be disrespectful and interrupt a prayer.
If anyone was being disrespectful it was them, come on. If you really must go to church there are other options.
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im nonbinary but i look exactly like a regular guy, it really hurts when people dont use gender neutral pronouns for me because that's who i am that's who i always have been

it really hurts, i am nonbinary, i dont have a gender and im also demisexual too so it really hurts
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/therapedungeon
me and this anon are getting it on. come watch kitchen shows with us.
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>>6533869
it's mtfg, not non-binary gen
nobody has to acknowledge anything
if you think you should just get attention no matter what you're doing and where you are, you have a problem
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>>6533880

every time we've gotten into any kind of negative thing it's always been when you weren't really being as much of a positive person, so. i've been positive to you before! as long as you're just living your life the best that you can and you're working towards happiness i'm sure you'll continue to be the same positive person you've been lately, and grow from everything, and that's a wonderful example for other people here as well as myself. as well as a nice person that i think everyone would like to encourage, or be friends with. i respect you for that.
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>>6533895
Get rid of the shit hanging a little below the chest and it's solid
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>>6533887
What is RLM?
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>>6533896
well i like this church and no one has really ever been rude to me :s i dont see a reasons to leave if i enjoy going most of the time
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>>6533906
The guys who made the video I linked! They watch bad movies and sometimes good movies and talk about them or just tear them to shreds, it's fun!
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>>6533897
who?
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>>6533886
Lmao
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>>6533906
Red Lgreen toMatoes. It's a movie about Lesbians in the 20s who open a restaurant.
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>>6533895

hnnng
i'm still lowkey obsessed with/getting over the chanel spring '16 haute couture show ;_; as well as mariacarla boscono's walkkkk tbqh. i need to start watching more showssss.

>>6533899

i guess so. idk, i guess i just feel bad cause that validation can be nice and they seem like they wanted it just like everyone else who posts in these threads.
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>>6533893
Yes, it is. Give them a try, you might like them.
>tfw was still looking for excuses to not accept myself as trans when I started hormones
>hormones ended up making me more comfortable with myself than I'd ever been
>"well shit, guess I'm trans"
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>>6533918
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>>6533816
I've kind of always understood that about you.

>>6533826
At a certain point it becomes impossible not to go full-time, beard or not.

>>6533839
Find a more tolerant & affirming Church. United Church of Christ and Unitarian Universalist both seem to be much more likely to be lgbt-friendly.
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>>6533923

gender presentation is not the same thing as gender identity. i expected more from you even though i know you're being your usual self.
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I need the wifi password
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>>6533925
Fuck the church
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>>6533917
validation is meaningless unless it comes from within.
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>>6533923
Being too scared doesn't make you non-binary. Half this thread would be non-binary if that were the case.
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>>6533929
Do you have the wifi password?
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>>6533930
try "qwerty"
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>>6533918
I regret waiting so long because of fretting about "what if I'm not really trans" and "what will people think" when I could have just tried hormones and resolved that first question at least.
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>>6533923
>too pussy to go full time
>"I'm non-binary!"
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Do you know how to get on the internet?
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>>6533925
i dont wanna change churches tho :s
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>>6533929
how can you tell when faye is not shitposting?
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>>6533925
>At a certain point it becomes impossible not to go full-time, beard or not.
At what point is that? I still haven't reached that point at least. I guess it helps that I have only had moderate breast growth, but still.
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>get up to pee
>end up making a pot of coffee and doing all of the dishes on my way to the bathroom
R I T A L I N
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>>6533932

tru, but a lot of people come to terms with themselves and validate themselves ~within~ through outward stuff and validation.
I'M JS I GET IT AND THAT SUX FOR THEM BUT UR RIGHT IT'S NOT NB GEN SO RIP

>>6533935

it's girltinkler

>>6533946

she's never not shitposting unless it's about a serious topic, but i'm disappointed since this kind of is a serious topic for some of the ppl here. as it was made so prevalent by caps lock anon lol
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>>6533941
Not specifically her, but some people do use it for a period where they are coming to terms with trans-ness, which I think is pretty much okay
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>>6533929
Edie is the worst trip. You have histrionic personality disorder.
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I wish i were cool like you.
i wish you could be friends with me irl.
i wish i were worth being friends with.

i wish i passed.

if wishes mattered, i wouldn't be here bitching.
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>>6533952
you realise you're describing kayla
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>>6533900
cool
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>>6533955
GET EM!
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>>6533938
What finally pushed me over the edge was realizing I'm never gonna figure it out unless I just try hormones. One can endlessly worry while doing nothing, but once you actually take some sort of action things become more clear.
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He's a Z Zegna look that's probably more suited to the thread

>>6533917
I did like the spring couture show
Although
Idk
I feel like karl is starting to be a little eh
But the couture this week has been great!!!!
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>>6533945
I think you're right; at the very least you should speak with the priest that gave that prayer and explain your feelings about it, there's a good chance they don't really understand why that wasn't okay. At this point it's more of an unfortunate faux pas than any evidence of malice.
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>>6533952

i have every disorder ever and some that haven't even been heard of yet from what i've been told by ya'll. i am a psychological enigma !!!

>>6533955

uh i mean the amount of times you told me you were into being sissified because all you ever wanted was to be a girl is a pretty good indicator. as is your leap into voice training and everything else. again, you're just scared. meanwhile i was raised in a non-binary environment, and identified as genderqueer for half of my transition until told i was otherwise. you should work on the bitter thing tho.

>>6533968

in all fairness tho their clothing line in general has taken a huge hit hasn't it??? the spring rtw collection was a disaster lmao
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oh yeah also, the other day, for the second time, i was told by a stranger that i look like the woman in this john singer sargent portrait

not to brag or anything but it made me feel really nice
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Holy shit what is going on here why are you all so retarded and crazy?
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>>6533973
you kinda do
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>>6533935
Screaming
>>6533948
I think I need some of this stuff
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>>6533973
I can see that, that's very similar to your profile.
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>>6533973

i see it t b h
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>>6533941
i am gender fluid and proud
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>>6533976
>Holy shit what is going on here
/mtfg/
>why are you all so retarded and crazy?
Idk, I fell down a flight of stairs as a child so maybe that's it
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>>6533976
you should see the tinychat
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>>6533918
I've felt kinda warm inside a lot the past week.
I'm actually getting breast budding rn
I didn't really notice anything about my skin yet

>>6533950
I went through a 4-month period where I thought I was gender-fluid because I only had strong urges to be a girl about half the time I was awake. It helped me get over transphobia.

>>6533965
I got really depressed during the winter because I legitimately felt like I couldn't do anything until classes let out.
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>>6533977
>>6533983
>>6533984
thanks guys thank u ty!!!!!!!!

>>6533982
its great i got it from my friend who has a scrip
i feel like i should try and get one for adderall if i can

OH YEAH EDIE AND MERC I WANNA BUY SOME NEW CLOTHES BEFORE I GO TO EUROPE PLS TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD GET
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>>6533976
Our periods are synced [spoiler];_;[/spoiler]
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>tfw you love KPP and only in SF 'till the 11th
;_;
One of y'all in San Fransisco ought go and take videos for me
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>>6533938
Idk, it's not cut and dry. I've seen enough posts here saying "idk if I'm trans, been on hormones for a year" to know that it doesn't work that way for everyone.
In retrospect, the mental gymnastics to try and convince myself that I wasn't trans were pretty dumb. Stuff like "I'm not trans, I just want to be a girl", or "I have to be agp if I only imagine sex as a female". Thanks hormones for slapping the stupid out of me i guess.

>>6533993
How long have you been on the E?
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>>6533973
I See it
>>6533972
Yeah I think it has, and the rtw the past few seasons has been straddling terrible
Honestly, they should relinquish the rtw reigns to someone else and let karl keep making art
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>>6533993
When I couldn't repress anymore I had to leave my job to figure things out, it was a complete collapse of my mental state and I got into some really dark spots. Took me a month to finally schedule an HRT appointment and things got better once I did.
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>>6533985
Pride is embarrassing.

I sure hope this picture isn't sidewise
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>>6533949
>but a lot of people come to terms with themselves and validate themselves ~within~ through outward stuff and validation.
replacing your self-acceptance with outward stuff is called materialsm
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so you are all just a bunch of girls who trip on 4chan and erp with each other? sounds like a recipe for disaster
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>>6533868
>>6533882
Maybe on Sunday go to UCC or UU Church, and see how they are.

I know what it's like to have problems with churches. It's kind of horrible and my family I'm looked at as the real Black Sheep. There were two Pastors in my family, and one was a pastor of a church near where I lived in Maryland. He never figured out that I was transgender, but he did see me with one of my clients. At least he didn't realize it was a client and thought I was just going out with an older lady.

>>6533889
Maybe you can go teach them just what it means to be transgender. I've always found it helped too tell how my base urges are all feminine rather than masculine. Around here or use animals as a method for teaching it. Most people around here are familiar with the mating practices of livestock.
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>>6534005
You're right anon! Would you like to join us?
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>>6533997
What is KPP, Que, Pipi?
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>>6533994
Ohhh
I've been after adderal for a while desu, I wonder if I could get a script for that

New clothes?
Ok, like
Stuff just for the trip? Or just new stuff?
You could do stuff like this?
Idk, do you want to style swap?
How r u feeling bb?
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>>6533998
a week and a half -.-
idgi

>>6534000
my darkest point was after I had been on anesthesia, and tried calling like 7 different endocrinologists to start HRT. Five said "we don't do that", and the other two weren't taking new patients, so I had a total mental breakdown and almost killed myself

>>6534005
>recipe for disaster
it is :3
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>>6533997
nvm i didn't read the pic im dumb
I should know that from /mu/ anyways
Have fun its gonna be a cute night
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>>6534011
That would be a really shit tasting sandwich, dont swallow that bs faye
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>>6534012
i would loooooove to do something like that
i feel like i might have the weight to do it now
but i dont think i have the money to get too much stuff.

and yes i kind of wanna do a style swap a lil bit lmao

IM FEELING OK kind of crazy a little bit atm but i think thats the ritalin
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>tfw it's time for my one salad of the day
w-wow *3* i'm excited desu

>>6533994

what is the weather like over there rn?? like is it warm?? omg get some beautiful sundressesss. some chic trousers maayybee. sorry my mind is running wild rn lmao wHAT DO YOU WANNA WEAR?

>>6533999

i agree with you honestly. it's kind of sad cause i used to love chanel so much. i'm wondering who will take over for him when he runs their brand into the ground with his current looks.

>>6534003

tru

>>6534011

i'm not doing any of that. your tone is hostile because you're obviously upset about something. anyone who knows you even slightly knows you're not non-binary. which is fine. there's just a diff between that and being too scared to transition because of the people in your life.
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>>6534008
i think im just gonna watch from a distance
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>>6533994
If you want to blend in in France at this time of the year, a marinière top is a safe bet... Wish I were joking.
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>>6533965
I was too scared to tell my parents I wanted to get on hormones and felt it would be wrong for me to do so without telling them, so I was stuck like that for a long, long time. I probably would still be stuck if my psychologist hadn't suggested that I should just try it before telling them, because either I'd hate it and get off of it and it wouldn't matter or I'd know it helps and have that to justify myself with when I did tell them. Advice I wish I had heard much earlier.

...and of course when I finally did tell them they were perfectly fine with it. Fuck. I knew they would be too, but I was still too scared regardless because what if they weren't.

Oh well. Time to stop mulling over regrets.
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>>6534020
>tru

you act like you understand

and yet

you post that pic

jesus christ
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>>6534020
There is no tone. Yr both upset. Edie yr a bully sometimes
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>>6534011
Why are you such an obnoxious no good wannabe faggot?
>>6533994
You could pull off this sort of thing
Asos is having a turbo sale btw
>>6534019
Mhmm okokokok

Lol
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>>6534020
are you and faye fighting a little bit right now?
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>>6534011
say what you want, but edie is usually on target
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>>6534026
is gorging yourself on unhealthy tasty food not materialism?
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>>6534026
>>6534028

i wonder about some of ya'll sometimes lol

>>6534030

she just gets bothered by my existence idk
it's just weird cause with faye especially it's like watching someone climb back into the closet even if it is shitposting.
but it's w/e i guess.
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>>6533971
im way too scared to rock the boat desu. like the thought of me talking to him about this in private sends the bad kind of chills down my spine.

this was the pastor i sorta came out too, i told him late last year about being bi and thr childhood abuse but i was pre hrt at the time i never really mentioned anything trans related bc idk i didnt wanna i guess? like i guess no one knew at all till i started presenting more feminine.

i suppose from their pov it would seem strange and out of the blue since i went from looking like the bottom pic to top seemingly overnight. (for them i mean since i didnt go as much and hid that i was on hrt)
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>>6533995
no shit
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>>6534020
>your tone is hostile because you're obviously upset about something
what a brat

>>6534033
no, it's escapism, because the feeling of being full is satisfying enough to negate pain. Unhealthy food just makes you feel full faster, so it's more satisfying.

Starving yourself for a body image because you think it's going to make you happy is materialism.

>>6534036
Me too.
You should try wondering about yourself sometime. A little bit of introspection can go a long way.
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>>6534029
>Asos is having a turbo sale btw
Oooh ill have to check this out
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>>6534031

if i'm being totally honest here, mtfg has the attention span and memory of a fly. which has worked for and against me, as well as everyone else who posts here. people rewrite their stories all of the time. i'd just rather people rewrite it in a positive way than a negative one for themselves than a negative one. or at the very least, one that's honest for who they are right now. even if it is just 4chan.
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>>6534042
You do seem rather upset
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can i still pass if i like mma and playing drums
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>>6534042

hostility, the post
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>>6534050
Only if you use your mma skills in lewd ways~
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I wish I never saw the sunshine
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>>6534046
>asos having a sale
>i spent £400 on there the other day

goddamnit
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>>6534041
what the hell are those?
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Fufu, that anna sui resort stuff is also cool....

>>6534020
I don't think karl will leave until he dies, but idk, I can't really picture anyone else being "chanel" level
Maybe some new kid straight out of parsons or something
>>6534035
):
It should last a few more days anon!!!!

>>6534038
You should probably intentionally and deliberately come out if you're gonna continue to be a church member
It's not like you need to come out in front of the entire congregation or anything
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>>6534029
HONESTLYYYYyyyyyy asos has done nothing but do me wrong!!!!!

but i might check it out anyways :x

>Why are you such an obnoxious no good wannabe faggot?
lmfao

>>6534020
chich trousers = yes absolutely what i am thinking. i want a nice blazer too, tbqh, or like something... idk...
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>>6534006
eh i really dont wanna go to another church im happy with the one i go to now. it was the first time ever that i felt annoyed but I'll get over it.

>teach

gosh no i just wanna live my life p much. let ppl think what they want it doesn't really affect me. im much more of the stay silent type
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>>6534048
I'm always upset. Let's be honest here. Posting on this general is upsetting in and of itself.
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You're all beautiful and I love you all.
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>>6534057
hey!
How's ~model~ life and the house and stuff?!
>>6534046
Yap
Don't buy the stuff in my size, Ty in advance
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>>6534065
Then stop posting here if it upsets you lmao

Or just cheer up!
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>>6534058
you know what they are
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so like im looking at this asos sale and i realize im way in over my head
idk what to do


>>6534057
rest in peas
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