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Okay, legbuts, I'd really appreciate some advice: What's

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Okay, legbuts,

I'd really appreciate some advice:

What's the best way to pass as female, without surgery or hormones or growing hair out? Your canvas is a relatively, but not overly masculine amab. Any thoughts?
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>>6508023
Great skin/hair care, great cosmetics, appropriate wardrobe, arduous voice work, and lots of practice.
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>>6508036
I suspect practice is the key. Bad results really just dishearten me so much. But I'll keep at it.
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>>6508023
Remove face/body hair, wear basic clothing (no drag/porn/club shit but tasteful enough where you're not a slob... learn your season), learn2makeup (youtube), get a decent wig that frames your face, loosen your walk, train your voice, breast forms or inserts, cardio, squats.

That's just the average. There are all sorts of women out there though, so it's a pretty open-ended question.
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>>6508050
It's heartbreaking, but practice is really an inescapable element of successfully "passing". If you're not comfortable and confident, it's not going to work for you.

If I might ask, what nightmare are you living that you need to pass without the assistance of even long hair (let alone drugs and surgeries)?
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genetics. plain and simple. you either have androgynous/fem features or you don't. if enough add up overall, you'll look androg/female, if not you'll look masc.

most you can ever do despite these possible setbacks is eyebrows, wig, makeup...like any other drag queen.
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>>6508094
I'm the scum of the earth, gender fluid. None of that androgynous in-between business though. Just a person that wants to pass as both, because from time to time, thats what makes me feel best.

Not necessarily attractive as both either, nor the epitome of either masculinity or femininity (I'm suffering no delusions that its possible).

>>6508085
I think I've got the basic clothes stuff down already, I've got pretty conservative tastes in clothes of both genders.
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