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Previous thread >>6256157
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What ex trip do you miss the most?
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>not taking the knot edition

shit thread
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>>6256957
>W-what?
They sell you toys that have knots, don't let your dreams be dreams and it's without having to fuck an animal!

>>6256967
This is a good and rare feel!
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I love smelling like lavender and jasmine~
what do you smell like mtfg?
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>>6257024
Now is knot the time anon
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>>6257022
frenchfry
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>>6257023
sophie idk thats why im asking you
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red suck my dogcock
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>>6257026
sweat, motor oil, and menstrual blood
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>>6257026
coconut and hibiscus!!
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How do you feel about Chicago pizza?

Picture related.
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>>6257030
Id combine benzos and opiates in huge quantities I think
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>>6257023
>and told him I need psychmeds.so I got a referral
SOPHIE IS GETTING HER DEPRESSION FIXED! We need to throw a party!
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>>6257038
i have benzos
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>>6256978 This literally me right here, ty for sharing this with me I thought I was all alone in feeling like this
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>>6257026
Turf.
And Blackberries.

This is what I've been told. I can't confirm.
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>>6257026
>>6257034
>>6257036
>>6257046
How do you people understand smells so well?
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>>6257026
Apple and lilac
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>>6257026
Black ice tree
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>>6257027
that's knot funny
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>>6257037
I though that was butternut, it's great if you fill it with stuff but it takes ages to cook.
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>>6257026
probably bad idk
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>>6257049
we use our noses!
I mainly know I smell like coconut and hibiscus because that's what my conditioner is
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>>6257026
Tuberose, tagetes, civet, costus and must. Probably my most violent perfume.
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>>6257049
freakishly sensitive senses of smell and taste
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>>6257043
i feel the same way ;_;

>>6257026
hmm idk what i smell like.
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>>6257049
I get reports from others and keep my nose clear with vicks...
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>>6257054
what the hell does that smell like
>>6257034
oh....not pleasant
>>6257036
lemme smell you

I love perfumes and dusting powders~
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>>6257042
overdosing on benzos alone is just dumb and sucks. trust me, I tried.

>>6257041
he asked how bad it is, I said pretty bad, he said if I want help I should get institutionalized cause getting an appointment will take months :^)
fucking socialized healthcare, I swear to god. Can we please just gas or nuke everything?
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>>6257049
I have an absurdly good sense of smell. Which obviously led me to make my own perfume. And totally hate a few things because of their stink.
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>>6256925
Using data from
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_11/sr11_252.pdf
Assuming 1 in 1000 males is transgendered and that 100% of those with trans feelings are going to transition, and that there is a 50/50 distribution of male and female in the population.

Using a mean female height of 64.1" and a standard deviation of 2.4", 3 standard deviations gives a 71.3", with 0.3% of cisgendered women being above 71.3"

Finding percentiles for males over 71.3" shows that ~27% of males are over 71.3". Assuming 1 in 1000 males is transgendered then 0.027% of males are over 71.3" and have trans feelings. Based on this, a woman over 71.3" is cis over 90% of the time.
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>>6257072
>lemme smell you
but you're in texas.... that's too far away ;-;
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>>6257074
im going to a dentist because ive neglected my teeth for years so i might get opiates :)
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>>6256959
poor cfh :( uve been around for a while at least

>>6256981
no offense but if u (general "you") started posting after i quit last year i have no idea who u are lol
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>>6257059
>>6257070
I use my nose too, and it's relatively clear... I just don't know what to make of people's smells
I can tell them apart and stuff... but they don't seem to lend themselves to being described in terms of other smells, whether it's mine or someone else's
I think something's wrong with me
>>6257076
>>6257067
That sounds handy too
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>>6257074
Well, I'll keep the cake in the fridge until you get it.
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>>6257026
Testosterone, Rage and Hate
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>>6257074
If you're getting locked up, make sure you negotiate everything trans related before signing yourself in.
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>>6257082
I dunno, I think youd need IV opiates to have a good chance to kill yourself with them, but I havent looked into that

>>6257088
>no offense but if u (general "you") started posting after i quit last year i have no idea who u are lol

>>6257088
>no offense but if u (general "you") started posting after i quit last year i have no idea who u are lol
even if they have been posting since 2013, I only know them if theyve talked to me a few times :^)

>>6257095
thank you <3

>>6257098
I am post op, they cant detransition me anymore I hope. Or is there something else I should look out for?
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>>6257096
why do you remain in a thread filled with trannies if you don't want to be one? people on a diet don't keep posters of cakes in their room.
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>>6257088
Well, I definitely am an outsider these days. Especially here.
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>>6257072
Its for your car, i used to buy one for neens
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>>6257101
they'll make you grow a penis!
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>>6257094
>I think something's wrong with me
I just have a lot of experiences with smells... Growing up in the countryside and helping out on a farm contributed to it.
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Why are people mean and terrible?
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>>6257094
Not really. Yeah, I can tell almost everything there's in a dish just smelling it. I can also track smells I'd rather not from uncomfortably far away.
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>>6257112
Hey now! don't make generalisations! Only some of us are mean. What's up though?
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>>6257112
what happen
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>>6257112
because they are inferior
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>>6257098
Forced detransition is one of my fantasies to do to trannies
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>>6257079
yay, maths to prove that averages don't mean you pass...
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>>6257115
>>6257116
Volunteering today and people are being mean.

>>6257118
We're all equal. Except for drunk pregnant women.
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>>6257101
Well, make sure they won't discontinue HRT, you don't want to end up without E. And if you haven't had your official ID change, ask them to use your old name only on official documents, never in front of patients.
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So how likely is it a standard retail job is going to make my cut my hair? Is a ponytail neat enough? I can't tie a bun because dyspraxia. It's taken me 3.5 years to get it to the length it is now, and that's with biotin the last 6 months.

>>6257026
Coconut, yummy

>>6257074
>tfw psych appt in 2 days
>tfw terrified if I tell the whole truth I'll get locked up and have my tranny pills taken away
I'm out of money anyway, I need to find a job ASAP if I'm gonna afford my next laser session and HRT shipment
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>>6257112
Because I'm a high functioning sociopath. I get shots of dopamine by being malicious and cruel
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>>6257122
i didn't mean they couldn't be better, they just aren't at that time.

this motivational posters are kind of hilarious.
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>>6257122
>Volunteering
Oh? What's the cause?
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>>6257127
this => >>6257128
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>>6257120
I had to go through that when I was young because of gatekeeping. That's a sad and disgusting fantasy, really.
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>>6257121
The maths are simply saying that at six feet your height alone doesn't make you clockable.
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>>6257126
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>>6257106
i wanna see neens!!!
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>>6257043
>>>6256978
iktf too.
I did surprise them when a friend came into town. I was at the regular Saturday party when one of my two gfs made a surprise visit.

>>6257049
training the nose. Learn to identify scents.

>>6257026
Estrogen and lactobacillus poop.

>>6257120
No! No! No! you don't want it. I've been through it. Fucked me up bad.

>>6257125
Good advice.

>>6257126
I did ponytails at work for decades. just tell them it is for religious reasons.
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>>6257137
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>>6257146
My mom got me a Mad magazine in a trip to the states and I was so disapointed at how unfunny it was.
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>>6257109
I dunno, clearly you're not the only one who can do it
>>6257114
I dunno, the former is nice... though probably not worth the latter
>>6257142
I kind of can... I mean, a lot of these scents are ones I can identify on their own or in scented products... I can even do that thing CFH described sometimes, identifying a (non-primary) ingredient in a dish from the smell of it.
But human smell? It doesn't smell like any of this stuff to me
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>>6257130
Charity stuff.

>>6257128
Bretty good yeah
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>>6257125
my ID and birthcertificate are changed, my pills are legally prescribed, I should be safe.
thanks though!


>>6257126
locking someone up is really hard in the western world.
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>>6257142
I always kept my hair long and untied at work. Didn't make me popular with the higher ups..
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Post trips you want to hug
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>>6257157
I just want a hug from anyone rn
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>>6257135
Kek. Soon to be a state enforced reality thanks to the rise of based Islam
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Can we go back to talking about knotting?
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>>6257151
There are some very human smells that are found elsewhere. Costus root smells like sweat and greasy hair. Valerian smells like feet after a walk. Indole smells like menses.
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>>6257159
Have a fuck off instead
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>>6257167
Thanks Bae <3
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>>6257157
Phien and Basic are pretty high in the list, but all the terribly depressive ones really.
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>>6257157
I want to hug everyone
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>>6257026
I don't have BO so I usually smell like shampoo, fire or Wild Turkey's delicious Kentucky whisky™.
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>>6257157
I'd probably wanna hug most of the trips here
>>6257165
Nobody had mentioned any of those, though it's still a fair point
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>>6257079
Oh, ok.
I found that same pdf. I was trying to use it to calculate the height at which a woman is more likely to be trans than cis, but I haven't quite figured out how yet.
Your approach seems a little more straightforward though.

>standard deviation of 2.4"
How'd you get that number?
Using the data in the tables, I got standard deviations of 6.99 cm for women, and 7.53 for men, which would be 2.75 and 2.96 inches, respectively.

>Assuming 1 in 1000 males is transgendered
According to Wikipedia, about 0.3% of the US population is trans, so it would be more like 1 in 333.
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>>6257164
No you will scare the innocent trips away
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>>6257164
Macrame is sooo 70s...
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reposting from last
>>6257012
I switched from Spiro to Depo Provera shots, and it increased my sex drive significantly. Main issue is developing bones is harmed by Depo Provera so it shouldn't be taken to young.
>Also the bipolar mood swings and I just feel myself getting angry and snapping at the dumbest stuff and I truly don't even mean to and feel awful about it afterwards.
This is likely a separate issue. Any trauma in your past? You could also be bipolar. I'd talk to a therapist. If it is trauma, then EMDR may help.

>>6257150
It's aimed at kids and young teens. I haven't found it entertaining for ages.

>>6257151
I know. I learned bacteria smells, and well... That's what I identify them as now. I guess my palette is too highly educated. lol

>>6257156
I can imagine... I caught lots of flack for wearing it in a pony tail. I should have been more assertive and used barrettes to hold it in place.

>>6257165
I need to relearn smells.

>>6257181
Few would know them.

>>6257186
innocence, what's that?

>>6257188
LOL that was the last time I did it often. I have done some more recently.
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>>6257164
hair and food were more interesting desu
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>>6257186
>innocent trips
>innocent
>trips
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>>6257198
anon gets it
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>>6257198
I am desu
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>>6257192
>It's aimed at kids and young teens. I haven't found it entertaining for ages.
My main issue was that it was mostly images and size 72 text, it seemed so lazy with almost no content. The humor was uncyclopedia level, but I was a teen at the time so it should had worked..
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>>6257207
but you know what taking the knot is, right?
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>>6257213
Whats that?
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>>6257198
kit and charlotte ran away because of it
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>>6257213
>>6257216

pretty sure its a sailor thing? like maybe bondage?
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>>6257068
We should prolly b friends
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>>6257219
aww phienchen is a cute and innocent one too
sort of
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>>6257216
>>6257219
really?
you're interpretation of Elannas dream is pretty tame.
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>>6257183
Rough estimates and looking only at the 20-29 demo. I found the 0.3% number too but elanna thought it was high so we rounded down.
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>>6257219
Tfw never got to be a sailor
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>>6257216
Where you take a rope tied to a knot from someone else
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>>6257219
Bondage? You mean like trying something down so the wind doesnt blow it away?
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I'm actually glad people don't know the terminology about dog fucking, it's better this way.
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Does anybody have some good screencaps of PotC posts?
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>>6257228
Height in general is pretty much dark magic as far as making predictions. A ton of shit can happen to make variations as you grow up.
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>>6257232
Oh i see, thanks puru sensei
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>>6257216
>>6257219
>>6257213
>>6257232

Are we all bullying kit now or what? >>6256924
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>>6257239
How dare ye' speak of the beast of cork
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>>6257236
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>>6257248
There's only one beast of Cork and that's me
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>>6257224
am I wrong?

>>6257227
what dream I am so confused

>>6257231
>tfw

>>6257235
no like sexually, its an SM thing, loss of control and stuff. Some people are into that.

>>6257246
what
Id never bully kit
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>>6257242
hiii~
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>>6257253
it's having sex with a dog, okay? you made me write it, are you happy now, you bully?
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>>6257253
>sexually
10 HAIL MARRIES NOW
I AM A GOOD GIRL I AM A GOOD GIRL I AM A GOOD GIRL
NO LEWD THOUGHTS
I SERVE THE LORD AND MY HUSBAND
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>>6255466
38% masculine
80% feminine
52% androgynous
INXX F/T and J/P are both borderline in me.

>>6257208
You were to highly learned for it. ;)

Also sounds like it has gone down hill.

>>6257219
knot this (pic)

>>6257228
estimated # of transgenders keeps going up with each new good study.
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man compliments from strangers really are the best, it just feels more genuine than getting it from friends
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>>6257256
Hey red, i was just about to get back to work actually, lunch break shitposting is an essential part of the day but i still need to finish my shift!
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>>6257261
h-hi qt
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>>6257262
It changes a lot depending on what you count, and a lot of people kind of fall under the radar of that kind of study, especially in the 16-30 age brackets, because parental hostility likely means you're going to do it more on the sly.
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>>6257261
hello grace
see you at bible study on sunday, the lord's day?
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>>6257260
HOLY HELL
I GOOGLED THAT, ITS ACTUALLY A DOG PENIS? I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST A SUPER WEIRD MEME ABOUT TYING SOMEONE UP

>>6257261
wut
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>tfw you fall asleep after saying I love you to edie
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Has anyone here watched he Crying Game? If yes how do you feel about it ?
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>>6257282
It's evolutions way of saying no means yes
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>>6257269
Robin we've been over this. Those people are hallucinations
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im a cute boy~
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>>6257282
now your boyfriend is gonna notice the search history...
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>>6257269
Yeah, there are a few things that do that. Jealousy from other women. Having someone look at you with that woah expression. Being treated like a 1%er...
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>>6257273
>>6257279
Of course, the day of sabbath is very important! See you then, i must return to work!
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>>6257283
not this shit again
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>>6257292
Yes. Yes you are.

Sorry folks, steak demands a lot of attention. I don't want it to be under, or god forbid, over done. If that was the case, there'd be no sauce known to man or the french that could hide that I was to blame.
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>>6257293
he doesnt touch my pc. Id know if he did.
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>>6257287
It's a really typical predatory young trans woman archetype, if you've seen the Crying Game you've seen pretty much all media featuring trans women before the 00s.

The World According to Garp has the older transitioner perspective.
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>>6257299
More like

But I appreciate you using my name sake
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>>6257292
yes you ARE
I want to give you scritches

>>6257291
senpai I'm a lot of things but psychotic is not one of those things
in fact my self-awareness of my problems is kind of the worst part, I'd prefer thinking there's nothing wrong and living in blissful ignorance to the fact I'm such a fuckup

>>6257282
>being this innocent
pls sophie I knew what knotting was when I was like 12
though tbf I grew up around chavs
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>>6257310
i'm not really into you two filling this place with your personal lives, desu
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>>6257316
But.. It's just one little message because I know she'll find it :(
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>>6257310
>>6257283
use a fucking IM client, stop shitting up the threads, it's almost spamming at this point
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>>6257307
>>6257287
I watched it when I was 14 or something like that. Loved the first part with the IRA soldier. Once it got into dominant transwoman I felt really bad and guilty so I stopped watching.
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I don't understand why so many trans women decide to be visible and post pre transition or old clocky pictures all the time. The ones in the public eye make a lot of money out of it but the rest... The more their past is known or retracable the less chances they have of living a somewhat normal middle age life. I personally don't disclose it anymore except with friends that knew me pre-transition (which means like half of my friends right now) and as I see myself growing more and more passable, I try to delete most traces of my old life as much as possible. I don't have trans friends irl either, so my affiliations with that community is diminishing and diminishing. Isn't it best ? Do you want to be treated differently or as a circus clown for the rest of your life ?
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>>6257312
language barrier senpai. knot just means Knoten in german which is either speed of ships or the thing you do with ropes. I dont think it has any connection to ANIMAL GENITALS here
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my nose looks big in here
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>>6257322
A lot of people feel that pretending that half their lives didn't happen is pretty much repression again.
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>>6257327
And here I thought bestiality was as much of a time-honored tradition in Germany as coprophilia...
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>>6257327
it's the same in english, the canine dick has a knot-like shape.
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>>6257330
did you go boymode because you got lazy putting on makeup?
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if you sit down you are a hon
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>>6257337
no....
I don't wanna go into the reasons why
My face isn't feminine enough anyways
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>>6257339
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>>6257320
Please stop with the transbianphobic agenda

If this bothers you, and the 12 posts about animal dicks don't, well you have a problem dear
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God afternoon /mtfg/

>>6257026
Cucumbers and almonds

how is every nyan?
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>>6257331
It sort of is and sort of isn't. You don't have to be public about it but the deeper stealth you try to go the more effort it takes to maintain. A healthy medium is best for most people.
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>>6257341
I want to be a girl in a chair
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>>6257228
>Rough estimates and looking only at the 20-29 demo.
Hm, ok.
I tried calculating standard deviations for that age range, and my results were even higher: 2.76" and 2.99".
In case you're interested, I've been doing it by finding each percentile-value's distance from the mean, dividing by the respective qnorm for that percentile, and averaging those.
That seemed like the most accurate way to do it, at least.

>I found the 0.3% number too but elanna thought it was high so we rounded down.
Eh, fair enough, but I'd be wary of rounding down by a whole two thirds of your value.
Plus, there could be that effect where there's more of us than you realize because you only see the clockable ones.
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>>6257322
I don't pass well enough to do that
maybe after ffs I can be full stealth
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>>6257321
Almost literally everything that uses trans women as the punchline is basically a wink wink nod nod back to the Crying Game and Ace Ventura, basically.

>>6257322
Here's the thing. I got dragged by cis friends in the kind of women's spaces most terfs want us dead for trespassing in (college feminist groups, restrooms, etc). They knew I was trans.

I have yet to be made to feel othered and if anything "you're one of the girls anyway" is a thing I've had friends say back when I was a femboy. I've only rarely felt a big pressure to be very stealth, and the few times it happened it turned out that it's just as simple as not talking about it and hiding the d.

And the fear that things would be found out by accident made it an extremely unpleasant experience each time. So I'm not out by default, but yeah, I don't really feel like it's a dark secret I must hide forever because that puts a weight on your mind.
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>>6257007
>TFW only 23 people showed up to your camshow because you're fat and ugly and can't hide beard shadow and don't know what you're doing and your puppy was crying all the time to be let into your room.

https://unsee.
cc/rigapeno/
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>>6257331
I talk about my past exclusively with female pronouns. I exclusively tell anecdotes that aren't gender specific. I personally don't really feel the need. Don't you feel that maybe you could be holding on for no real reason ? Do you see yourself a trans person first or as a woman first ? Obviously you can be both, but personally I see myself as a woman first. Trans is only the category of woman I am.

I idealise a lot trans women from the 60's and 70's that lived stealth lifes to their death.
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>>6257347
did you get run over by a steam roller lmao
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>>6257347
suck in dat gut
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>>6257354
did you really cam? how was it? what was your routine? did you use an american site? how are they paying you?
you look pretty well for literally a man's amount of E
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>>6257354
You have to keep going with it, make a media presence so you can tweet People that you are going to be on, find a time slot

It takes time to pull hundreds of people like edie

Also use apps, be entertaining, no sad puppers
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>>6257363
>no sad puppers
I'd say she could fill an usually ignored demographic.
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>>6257354
beard shadow can be hidden with makeup. I don't know how to do it but you should look into it, I think it would be very helpful for you
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>>6257357
A lot of these women left stealth.
I know someone who transitioned in that era and stealth wasn't a choice they had, it was an imposition.
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>>6257354
kekked my arse off tbqhon
Sort yourself out though and you honestly have the makings of passer scum. You're pretty lucky.
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>>6257349
Yeah, I think we're going to defer to your numbers given you definitely have put more time into the calculations and got more accurate numbers than we did, we did lots of rounding because we were cuddling and just trying to get a rough estimate out. Nice work though.

Even with the 0.3% number ciswomen over 6 feet still outnumber trans women, just not quite by so big a value, so it still sort of holds true that height isn't something that's really clockable unless it's at extremes. I think we went with the 1 in 1000 solely because I was stubborn and remembered it being the number cited at the time I went through the system. In the end though, generally ime people only notice height if you're a whole head taller or shorter anyways, so it's not really a clockable feature regardless of the numbers.
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>>6257330
it's just the camera
a phone camera or webcam will stretch the centre of your face closer to the camera which will make your nose/chin area look more protrusive, don't use it to judge how you look <3
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>>6257354
You are a hon through and through
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>>6257362
>did you
I cammed
>How was it
It was tiring
>what was your rutine?
I painted my nails and made sexy faces and touched muh pee pee.
>moneys?
They're not paying cause I got no tips.
>you look fine for a man
I'm a girl!!! >:(

>>6257363
( ; _ ;)
Why can't I be a superstar without putting in any effort, tho?

Thanks for the tips Faye!!! I'll look into those apps and stuff :)

>>6257382
B.but I'm a pretty hon! I just ran out of blue eyeshadow that's all
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>>6257353
Thanks for your answer. I understand why you live your life that way, it makes sense considering the contexts you're in. Where do you live ? What about relationships, have you always been with people that are comfortable with claiming to be with a transwoman ? Do you feel that later on in life, when you won't be at the apex of desirability anymore, there'll still be people that would be as comfortable with being with you ?

Personally I often think about these highly visible and beautiful trans women in the media industry. Often men are scared to claim them because of how public it would be. Regardless of how gorgeous they are.
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>>6257391
you're not in kansas anymore
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>>6257370
Do you think that made them unhappy ?
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>>6257368
>>6257391
>taking out your peeper and playing it before they pay

Well there's your problem
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>>6257381
>>6257330
pic related

we really need to keep these sorta pics in the OP

do NOT use small cameras to judge how you look, a 135mm camera is closest to reality

Red- those professional-style photoshoot photos you have from that furry event are probably the most likely to be most representative of how you actually look
and you look qt as fuck in them

I don't want to see people beating themselves up over stuff that isn't even correct
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>>6257391
>I'm a girl!!! >:(
that's why I said you have an hormone proportion that would suit someone else.
can you really just fap? I assumed you had to do butt stuff, I would had assumed you were going to do that.
Todavía quiero saber en qué sitio y qué onda los pagos.
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>>6257362
Oh!!! I also gagged on my dildo, lmao
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i'm a girl
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>>6257401
protip: it feels good on a dick if you gag on it but keep control
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>>6257413
i'm a man with bobs
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>>6257410
Shemales arent girls.
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>>6257242
yw sweetie

>>6257354
Ouch
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>>6257277
Yes, there is no really good definition yet. Depending on definitions, 1:20 can be under the gender non conforming label. Just look at the % of crossdressers in the population. There are easily 10 to 20 times as many of them as those that transition and live as the opposite sex.

>>6257283
I did that recently to a gf on the phone. She said it was cute hearing me lightly snore.

>>6257304
>steak demands a lot of attention
very true...

>>6257307
I couldn't manage to watch either.

>>6257330
Wide angle camera lens.

>>6257342
agreed...

>>6257354
>>6257369
a bit of orange in the makeup helps hide beard shadow.

>>6257370
When I was young it was that way. I likely wasn't stealth enough.

It could be bad if you were discovered. One of the models I knew, Tracey Norman, got outed and it zapped her modeling career. Same for Tula.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/12/tracey-africa-transgender-model-c-v-r.html
Others I knew got fired. Tracey I can mention because she is out. i won't mention others unless I see them coming out. I tried hard to blend in when on the street. It wasn't safe to be known as trans outside the small circles I was in. At the time I maybe didn't realize how unsafe it was.
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>>6257416
to
>>6257410
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>>6257413
gag with manvoice for maximum effect
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>>6257399
That's basically one of the best ways to keep yourself delusional about how unpassable you look lmao
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>>6257398
yeah, but the pre-show can get pretty boring to sustain. I had the idea of reading fragments of Kierkegaard out loud since he's the bet femmboy of all continental philosophy.
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>>6257399
ummmmmm red had a photoshoot of sorts? why wasn't I alerted to this and where can I find pics?
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>>6257417
i'm a real biological woman
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>>6257432
No, you are a shemale.
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Looking for a trans girl in Edmonton 21m ;) ( I'll buy you cute clothes)
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>>6257435
o m g, what brought u here eh?
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I'm a cute dark soul®
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>>6257422
>very true...
Well, I'm done now, nothing was overdone and I was praised for being the best chef in the damn family again. Because I'm the only one with any culinary talent.

Cooking is classy.
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>>6257441
I want to masturbate to attractive shemale.
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>>6257443
>classy
please don't use that word
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>>6257397
She felt unhappy because she ended up losing touch with friends due to having to be stealth at all costs. She knew others like that

I know of at least two or three who broke stealth over bullshit laws, or for other, more personal drama in their lives. IIRC Coccinelle, whose name I keep forgetting, broke stealth to make a message about how dismayed she was that the french system is still utter horseshit for trans healthcare.

>>6257393
FWIW I've been on a lot of points of the spectrum. I've had partners who were comfortable claiming it, I've had partners who were also comfortable not making a fuss about it. Sometimes I enjoy being around people who don't know, it's more, I feel like stealth puts an obligation on what I should do and while I can mostly brush up my childhood on my own, I'm really bad at doing things when I feel obligated to do them. And I kinda feel like with the friends I've made over the years who are trans, or know I am even passively, hard stealth would make me lose a lot of people.
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>>6257435
>>6257417
>>6257416
>>6257445
this is a no bully zone!
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>>6257435
fight me, tranny
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>>6257395
But I was never in kansas, anon!!!

>>6257398
but my rutine ran out!!!!! and they were bullying me to see it :(

>>6257400
The fapping was really hard, I almost died trying to cum.lol I did butt stuff. Chaturbate and I'm like on a time triall

>>6257413
Thanks for the tip! I almos puked and the I laughed!!!

>>6257419
This camwhore thing is hard work!

>>6257424
I only have lispy fagvoice, though

>>6257426
Kierkegaard, huh? I'm much more Derrida,
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>>6257440
E D M O N T O N
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So if someone assaults you while entirely out of their mind after having had a psychotic beak on a high dose of acid is it their fault? Should you try and still be in a relationship with them if they were great in every other way except for this one time they assaulted you while tripping to the point of insanity?
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>>6257446

Classy Sassy Sexy Sissy

>>6257445
Come to muh camshow!!!!
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>tfw kinda ugly and manfaced
>got too depressed to fix eyebrows
>want to get them done professionally
>afraid I'm too manfaced for that
*sighs*
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>>6257446
I will use whatever words I like, thank you very much.
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>>6257379
>cuddling while trying to solve a math problem together
I'm a little jelly, not gonna lie.

>Nice work though.
Thanks! It looks like stats class payed off.

>Even with the 0.3% number ciswomen over 6 feet still outnumber trans women, just not quite by so big a value
That's reassuring.

>height isn't something that's really clockable unless it's at extremes.
>generally ime people only notice height if you're a whole head taller or shorter anyways
Haha, yeah, that's great!
[nervous laughter]
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>>6257460
>>6257458
It's so cringe though
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>>6257417
she's not biologically male though, you can say a lot of things about her but that's not one of them tbf

>>6257425
I wasn't talking about me, I was just saying don't use cameras to judge. Mirror is closer to reality, well-taken professional photos moreso.
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>>6257457
I'm so sorry. I'd say it's me or the acid.
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>>6257459
Most people don't care so long as you pay 'em
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>>6257462
Classy Sassy Sexy Shemale Moist Sissy

There's no end to the cringe anon!!!! ;_;
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>>6257459
ikr
the vicious cycle of hondom
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>>6257466
They will do the job but judge you silently ;__;
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>>6257466
yea but what if I look even uglier after I fix them. that's what I'm afraid of
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>>6257455
just look at those dsl! he was born to suck cock.

you also should learn that people bullying to get something they are supposed to pay to get aren't the best audience.
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>>6257463
>you can say a lot of things about her but that's not one of them tbf

kitty has claws ahahahaha
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>>6257466
Excuse me kind business person, I'd like to get my eyebrows done,

NO! you're too manly for us to take your money
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i'm a sissy now who wants to see my chastity device?
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>>6257457
you should avoid doing acid with them, trans or cis alike.
if they don't feel sorry for that then they aren't good friends at all
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>>6257462
How is it cringeworthy?

It's a word. Just like archaic.

I use it.
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>>6257477
better be a pair of garden sheers and a band aid you pussy faggot
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>tfw you don't remember taking this pic on xanny
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>>6257483
red you are still a babe, just like basic

mornin! how are yall?
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>>6257455
I'm going to be honest here
you should get some self-respect and a real job

You will make peanuts doing this
At the card shop I can make $40/h on good nights
I also do pizza delivery making $15/h to fill in time
before this I was a neet with no skills

You are capable of more than you know!
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>>6257473
I just want to please everyone :(
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where tf is edmonton anon I want to get dicked and given cute clothes
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>>6257456
You got contact info?
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>>6257483
attention whore
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I feel my mirror is extremely hugboxy. My reflection on any other reflective surface, including other mirrors, never looks as good as the one in my house. How do I fix this?
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>>6257488
brb grabbing some clothes and lube from upstairs
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>>6257488
Edmonton canada
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>>6257487
not really gonna do that with Derrida, hon
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>>6257472
You can fill the parts you didn't like with brow powder. It's really not that hard.
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>tfw tired and sweaty

anyone else /go to the gym at 1am to avoid weird looks/ here?
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>>6257484
thank you
I'm drugged out and weird
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Tfw worthless tranny :D
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>>6257443
I almost always get praised for my steak cooking abilities. I do raise the beasts. ;)

>>6257447
sometimes I like bombing people with my bisexual and poly sides. It's fun to totally upend somebody's impressions. I'll just casually mention male and female partners, or even multiples at once. I'm getting worse about that as I transition further. I should reign it in some. It's loosing it's effect.
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>>6257287
Breddygud comedy imo
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>>6257486
What kind of card shop is this?
>>6257488
If you're ever in the GTA we could help with the cute clothes
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>>6257504
all of you trannies are worthless, don't let anyone tell you different.
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>>6257502
>going outside
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>>6257488
>>6257495
[hope for dickings increases]
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>>6257498
But muh, deconstructivism!!!!!!

>>6257486
>get some self respect
I just got told :(

>Make awesome moneys on menial jobs
But I'm not in america Epsi!!!!
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>>6257506
Oh? Well, do your best! That's all you can do in life really...

>>6257512
Stop that.

I'm desperate enough as it is.
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Chaser here. Which girls here have the biggest gt? I'm looking for at least 7 inches.
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>>6257510
You get me pham. Thanks :3
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>>6257489
Idk I guess that depends on if you're cute, nice, and ok with no tinkler.

>>6257509
>going to the big smoke
One of these days maybe, I'll take you up on that offer

>>6257512
:D
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>>6257486
>pizza delivery
thaaaaaaaaaat's what I should do...
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>>6257506
yah man I fucking love that feel ^_^ I mention my primary or meeting up with multiple SO's and people get super uncomfortable

>>6257503
I mean I knew that, I was asking how your day was going :P

>>6257514
come to CO, chasers literally everywhere and even straight guys are down.

>>6257518
7.5 with 2 inch diameter
take it and fuck off
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Ugh I just hate my fucking life so much.

I don't even know what else to speak about at this point.
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>>6257513
>But muh, deconstructivism!!!!!!
sometimes you have to choose the cute over the correct.
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>>6257447
I personally prefer being around people who don't seem to know. I feel much more validated as a woman then. I don't date chasers or people interested in my genitals (I've never let someone else touch them desu). I never really saw stealthness as something that would make me lose something. On the contrary I only see gains on that end of the spectrum. How old where you when you transitioned ? I'm 19 and I just graduated college. I see the rest of my life as something that's entirely in my hands, and I'm slowly but surely deviating towards a life where I won't feel like telling anyone other than my partner.
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>>6257530
whats wrong dear?
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I think drugs seriously rejigged my mind

I still have some really awful days but on the good days I don't think I've ever appreciated life like this before, it's like I wasn't fully alive before
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>>6257026
Death
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>>6257536
go back to RF+
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>>6257523
I'm 21m wealthy oil sands worker 6-7/10 in looks
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