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> No bullying
> No hugboxing
> No * actions *
> No tumblr shit
> No drama
> No transbians
Let's do our best, girls!
old >>6233489
posted my face on /b/ like a retard
>>6234141
how did it go?
>>6234141
iktf
also my tits and asshole
>>6234135
> No transbians
cracks me up every time <3
>>6234135
>> No transbians
says the transbian ~
Why the fuck are we going through threads so fast nowadays?
>>6234135
> No transbians
>post a autogynephile image.
>tfw ur a boy
: )
>>6234149
kek'd
>>6234144
>well you are ugly
>if you were a girl and i was drunk id probably fuck ya
pretty good I guess
>>6234151
She's straight obviously
At what point are you too big or wide to pass?
>>6234141
I posted mine on /lgbt/ several times and nobody really cared all too much either way so not much regrets.
Transbians suck
>>6234152
Because more transbians like me are here crying that were not cute as fuck like I am online :(
>implying I'll even pass female before age 30
>>6234156
>>6234152
more anons, a few new trips and we really need our meme injections to keep up with the times.
I'm not really detransing but I did have to go to the urgent care today to get checked for dvt/a blood clot and everyone here clocked my T because of my voice and the lady who gave me an ultrasound brushed up against my dick and I just hate being a goddammit tranny so I'm gonna buy some wine on my way home
>>6234159
When you're Edgar size
it's so hard to find young srs pictures
>>6234170
How do you know if you're going to have a stroke that sounds so terrifying. I haven't started HRT I probably won't until winter at the rate life crawls by when you're unemployed MALE NEET at 24. I feel like I'll trade my childhood problems for adult ones soon
>>6234158
Like hell she is, have you seen Faye's boobs?
Those aren't some blobby fat man tits, they are authentic mommy milkers and only god knows what Edie has not done to them yet!
>tfw you eat a big bbq meal and feel the T flowing through you
Who wants to get fucked by a manly man
>>6234173
What size is that?
>>6234166
>Not posting every day
I get more replies with anime pics so that's what I'm going to keep doing
>>6234152
Gotta get those >tfw's posted on every thread
Well gigs over. Got paid. Going home. I just want cuddles ;~;
>>6234170
>clocked my T
Fucking never say that again
>>6234159
5´10" with 16" shoulders and no hips
>>6234182
You're not my mom
>>6234148
>I'm nervous now! hahahaha I keep you guys posted!
IT'LL BE OK SASS, DW!!!!! you said tonight, right?? how long until it happens???
>>6234150
>Serously thought, you do have to put up with alot of Faye's bullshit and double standards. I don't see how it doesn't drive you crazy and wanna break up. Faye is really dramatic and seems to like to troll you really often. Girl you have my sympathy because that is ridiculous to have to constantly be worried if something you're doing is going to set off your girlfriend and the constant near break ups. I'd never wanna date Faye she's too dramatic and trollish. But don't mind me I'm just some anon that watches alot.
...well shit, you sure do notice a lot lmao
honestly kind of impressed you got that just from 4chins. but idk. we both have our issues. it's not always her fault at all when we argue or w/e.
i just can't constantly care about that stuff anymore because it does get to me.
>>6234149
GODDESS PHIENCHEN GETS IT AS ALWAYS
THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU LMAO
>>6234152
drama and an influx in trips, i'd think.
>>6234158
i'm pan bb
>>6234170
i'm gonna text you in a bit to check in and catch up on everyone, is that ok?
>>6234177
>have you seen Faye's boobs
>looks down
Yes
>>6234179
40inch chest, 19 inch shoulders, fat as fuck, etc
>>6234152
classes are over. and yeah i fucking wish threads were slower like femgen. since its so fast now i tend to skip to the lastest thread when before id read the stuff i missed while sleeping.
>>6234187
I'm your father
>>6234189
post boobs
>>6234186
1 inch taller and wider but I have hips
What does this mean?
Fuck it time for bed.
Night everyone. Sorry if I've been an ass.
>wake up at 8pm, 2 back to back dreams of a better version of current life
>no drugs, feel emotionally drained from the get go
>no ones on/awake, alone, bored, tired and sad
>half a bottle of booze i drank in an hour last night that shouldve lasted weeks
>chainsmoking cigs now trying to stop feeling so completely dead inside
in my dream i had a gun in my pocket the whole time lol should i just shoot myself now?
>>6234159
Say that shit again and I'll end you
Not for me but for those that worry about that
>>6234152
cause I am back.
my post frequency was way higher in 2013 though
so it COULD be worse
>>6234188
>GODDESS PHIENCHEN GETS IT AS ALWAYS
>THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU LMAO
<3 <3 <3 <3
we re on that goddesses wavelength together
Is there any doubt ernest was a repressed tranny?
>tranny son, it seems to be atleast partially hereditary
>extreme fixation on proving manhood
>many people that met him thought him less manly than the hype suggested, someone even called him androgynous
>killed himself
>>6234196
Means you're man sized.
>tfw you weren't born a Targaryen princess destined to be married off to a cute blonde princeling boy
just fuck my shit up
>>6234199
whoever you are anon i love you
>>6234184
Ilu <3
>>6234188
>I just can't care
And that's the issue I tried to get across for hours yesterday, I fell so hard for you, you were so amazing, and now I just feel like I keep getting back there and I can't because of that emotional wall
>>6234174
jesus christ vaginas truly are horrifying
>>6234199
STOP
>>6234201
<333333333 ;3; f-finally
>>6234204
iktf
>>6234202
I want to die like that. Only I'm not andro so I am more justified
>>6234181
for the day or you're gonna have to get a new job soon?
>>6234182
clocked my T
>>6234189
>tfw you started hrt just before breaking your neck and have to wait 6 months until seeing your own boobs
>>6234188
It's 6;16 now, She'll be over at 7:30 8:00 tops!
gots to Cook the rice!!!!
>>6234213
I love you anon.
>>6234216
You should do what makes you happy and if that's killing yourself then go for it.
>>6234214
>Only I'm not andro so I am more justified
I think it meant andro in behavior, not in looks. ernest was a hunk.
>>6234217
Jesus Christ howwwwww ;<
>>6234213
>>6234199
This is pretty spectacular
how does one into makeup? is it necessary?
my mum never wears makeup, and neither does my sister. I'm not even sure what kinds there are or what to do or what shades to get or styles to do
pic related is sans makeup, if that helps. Can makeup make my shovel chin go away? It's not normally that noticeable but the lighting in my room is shit tier and emphasizes it
pls help :c
>also do I pass /cd/
>>6234198
Please don't anon we love you
>>6234217
Oh literally a gig. Like playing music. I still have my secure wageslave job
>>6234201
>cause I am back.
But you reply to like 7 posts at once so it doesn't speed it up that much.
>>6234159
When you're bigger than a 5 year old.
>>6234217
>have to wait 6 months until seeing your own boobs
>tfw wait for 11 months and still see just perky nips.
h-heh
>>6234135
I'll never be a thousandth as pretty as some fucking painting
>>6234202
He did kill himself after fearing the shizoid paranoia his father had started twisting his reality and making him feel persecuted all the time, while the FBI was keep track of him 24/7 after visiting Cuba and fighting in Spain.
I think his manliness is a bit more real than bros pumping iron and picking up chicks...
>>6234222
Passing and being cute will make me happy
Killing myself won't it would just end the unhappiness
>>6234206
ilu2 <3
>>6234204
>tfw you were born as the son of a family of salt-burned fishermen, part of a hostile, insular community with a history of thuggery, coldness and bitter harshness stretching back a thousand years to settling Vikings and their rape babies
>all the inbreeding produced a sterile, perfumed ponce nancyfag obsessed with clothes and makeup
what is thread may never dye
>>6234236
iktf
>>6234239
>5´11"
>cute
Good luck :-)
>>6234233
true, but I used to make a new post for may 2 replies back then I think, at least, mostly. I got a lot fewer (you)s then though so maybe Idk
>>6234205
>>6234212
>>6234213
Robin needs to stop publishing books
>>6234210
you can't just post hitting on everrrryone in the threads all of the time, and then get mad at me when i do anything similar.
like i can't even crush on some random youtuber who i have crushed on for years because it'll upset you, but you can say whatever you want.
that anon is right. i can't respect all of your insecurities at all times if you can't respect mine.
the fact that i had to explain all of that to you yesterday....
after i already explained for hours about how i was abused and that guy cheated on me and hurt me 24/7 before when i brought this up weeks ago?
you should have just stopped awhile ago instead of needing me to literally tell you to stop and order you around. there's no going around that.
especially after, when i told you that i don't communicate by giving you orders, and that i talk and explain things instead...
you responded by saying "if you can't communicate then what do you expect?"
if you want me to filter myself and my thoughts, then filter yourself and your thoughts instead of giving yourself a pass, and chastising me.
i don't wanna talk about this on 4chan any further. it's dumb. and this is just 4chins, and like you said, it shouldn't even matter.
>>6234219
OOP
OK I'LL BE HERE WHEN YA'LL ARE DONE, PLS UPDATE IN A BIT OK?
>>6234230
it's not necessary, no. but it can help.
>>6234229
>Jesus Christ howwwwww ;<
the power of memes
>>6234230
most people pass in frontal pics with weird lighting and poor resolution.
>>6234232
what do you play? are you the one who sounds like Bob Dylan? I remember someone mentioning that...
I'm from NY, I'm looking to move West with enough money to get by a few months. I'm 24 pre HRT, boy mode almost full time but rapidly switching female-ish. It's like pouring pink back into my life...
Anyone trying to meet and go to music festivals together so it's not scary to meet and get raped in real life? I'm going to camp bisco and moonrise so far so I can meet WOMEN. REAL FUCKING WOMEN!!!
But a tranny roommate might be awesome.
>>6234135
>liking anorexic girls.
wow, that girl need a lot of meat to get in a good shape.
Straight cis guy here.
I just looked at those pictures in the "lets get SRS" thread.
They look horrifying.
Why can't you just cut your genitals off if they cause you so much trouble. Why do you need to get some hole drilled into you?
>>6234168
>saved
>>6234257
>all the ones I've found kind of assume a baseline knowledge that I don't have
I could benefit from this too. Passgen told me to put more eye makeup and I got literally none lol.
>tfw I don't even do that
Yeahh, not even top-down angles save me so makeup is a must.
>>6234256
where'd you get that picture of me
>>6234256
>liking literal men
wow that man needs a lot of not taking steroids to be a girl
>>6234258
they all look like shit except for the suporn ones
they don't look too bad
Does HRT decrease your neck size?
Can anyone testify that it did?
My neck is 14" fuck it's huge it's nasty.
>>6234257
well, I don't want to hugbox you. you look passing there but that doesn't mean anything.
>>6234258
>Why can't you just cut your genitals off if they cause you so much trouble.
because you can't without dying?
>>6234265
I'm glad to see this meme already being picked up.
So what are lady boys? With the huge tits. What's with that? Is she male or whatever different? These gross porn stars don't seem to be what I am. I'm a girl with a penis but it's small. Are the shemales like not what y'all are? Like idk if I want to cut my cock off it works for me cuz I'm into women. :l
>>6234242
You got yourself a Targaryen princess tho.
>>6234242
>tfw repress long enough to spread my genes
>commit suicide once I know I won the game
>>6234268
what
i can feel a nicotine addiction creeping up on me...
>>6234257
i wrote this for another trip who used to post here, but you can pick apart some of it if you'd like.
it has links to products, and basic vids and all that kind of stuff. though it doesn't have everything.
http://pastebin.com/FduVyThG
>>6234258
and who exactly cares what you think?
>>6234265
a trip that looks too good for how obnoxious she is said it happened to her. if it's muscle than it should, but if you're already on your natural size it can't change.
>>6234275
the worst part is that you really can't.
>>6234250
Yes sure! Fuck My rice overflowed!!!!! hahahahaha
Good thing rice is easy. I'll keep u posted ;)
>>6234276
>and who exactly cares what you think?
Nobody cares that's not going to stop me.
>>6234260
>>6234250
im sorry that someone hurt you in the past
This kind of, let me make up a situation and straw man you into it to win an look good on 4chan is also what we talked about, you aren't supposed to try to beat me no matter the cost, no matter what you have to say.
I'm supposed to be your partner, 0 messages, we can try to make that a little higher
>>6234258
They've got some good reviews from people I trust.
>>6234279
Is there any way to tell if you are not your natural size?
My adam's apple is barely visible if that helps.
>>6234285
Check your mail
>>6234267
Not actually true:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genital_modification_and_mutilation#Nullification
>>6234258
You do realize the cut it like a banana peel and shove it inside of you right? If you cut it off, you couldn't make one in the future out of it silly
>>6234265
>14"
if that's 14" around, that was pretty slender
my neck is about that size (14.5"), and I used to have to get the smallest collars available back when I bought boy dress shirts
If it's 14" long... wow.
As a general rule, the only things that get smaller on any kind of HRT is muscle and fat. The rest either get bigger or stay the same.
>>6234284
>trying to be careful so as not to get banned again
Anyone else here have nasty cutter scars?
>>6234287
according to that trip the doctors though she had a glandular issue, so I'd assume that you can't. unless you have literally zero muscule.
>>6234285
12 productivities? you better collect those resources!
>>6234271
^____________________^
me = Victarion CONFIRMED
>brutishly strong
>actually retarded
>think all laughter is aimed at him
>beat an ex-wife to death
>hatred of older brother
>cut from the tv series
>Aife = Dany
>sailing the seas to reach my bride
its pottery
>>6234258
>Why can't you just cut your genitals off if they cause you so much trouble. Why do you need to get some hole drilled into you?
to have sex you clown
>>6234299
me
why do you ask?
>>6234278
if you need any help with anything else just let me know.
>>6234280
l m a o
okok. i wait with bated breath desu
>>6234282
if only
>>6234285
you didn't send me a message either lol
the whole partner thing should prob imply that there's a dual responsibility ever present, but you don't see it that way apparently...
you'd think that if you had a problem with what i'm doing that you would come to me with it privately instead of expecting me to come to you.
>>6234299
yup
>>6234299
>>6234299
never got the point of cutting.
I tried it in hs and that pleassure it gives felt really unwarranted, if I hate myself I don't want to make me feel good.
>>6234296
>14" long neck
Is that even possible without wearing neck rings all your life?
>>6234250
>>6234285
youre both crazy fucking drama queens with no sense of situational awareness
one is a whore and the other is just a fuckin manchild
just fucking settle for less already, damn
>>6234276
Skype please
>>6234311
that aint fuckin shit
>>6234309
>>6234285
while I enjoy the soap opera it's really not the best idea to discuss this in a thread.
but thank you for the entertainment.
>>6234299
I have holes and gashes all over my body to the point that I can't wear shortsleeves or be shirtless around anyone
is 5'6'' a passing height
and am i obligated to post with a tripcode? it seems like everyone's doing it :<
>>6234296
14 around kek
This and timelines are giving me hope, but I'm still scared.
Fuck the 3rd month of HRT really is the worst isn't it?
>>6234323
It's a good height and no.
>>6234323
yes
no
do not fucking post with a tripcode
it's a bad mistake to make
>>6234323
The average American female is 5'5 so you're absolutely fine. (Don't give in to peer pressure, you don't need to trip unless you want to.)
>>6234314
>>6234319
i really don't like discussing my private life in these threads. like certain things are fine, but not interpersonal relationships i care about.
which is why i avoid it like the plague and why i said i just wanted to stop earlier.
she's messaging me now and i'm letting her say how she feels before i respond, so ya. i apologize for the inconvenience.
>>6234315
got u
>>6234323
yes, and no
the less I repress. The more ashamed and suicidal i feel
>>6234329
I live in Singapore though so I'm still a giant here compared to the 150-160cm girls ;w;
>>6234230
FAYE?
sometimes i'm tempted to post my picture but y'all will just call me a boy so i don't
>>6234313
I have no idea. It's still impressive nonetheless.
>>6234305
>>6234323
no, you absolutely don't have to. I'm just egotistical and like being recognized
>>6234325
Yeah, that's pretty slender. And no, the months you spend knowing you're trans, before HRT are arguably the worst.
this thread
mfw
>>6234337
That means you're on the right track it'll be okay.
>>6234337
Weird concept, it's almost like this is a universal human experience of wanting to be part of the group, but also being evolutionarily and biologically different in order to protect the species and help it grow
>>6234343
saved!
>>6234340
If you're foreign then people will just chalk it up to that; if you're not, well, there unusually tall girls, and they generally are considered more attractive for their height, so I wouldn't give up hope.
>>6234341
I really wish the next level of Fayeposting were posting old pics and pretending to be new here.
>>6234342
boy is good, it can eventually pass. man is bad.
>>6234347
saved <3
>>6234311
is that a bullet wound?
>>6234356
no its an edgy ass bitemark
aint fucking shit senpai
hey gorls im new here but im starting hrt next week. im real y excited!!
>>6234352
I've posted old pics and pretended I cut my hair off for a day, it was pretty choice
>>6234188
hi im ok <3 text me i might be drunk tho
>>6234343
I think you are underestimating how small my head is.
If I move my head back just a tiny bit I look like diglett.
>tfw you'll never be a cute cosplayer
>>6234365
From your description I'm imagining something like this.
>>6234360
it would take changing the trip and asking about make up and if you pass
>>6234359
okay, no, it's not as fun as I had imagined.
So I know I'm not alone in my former self injury as A BOY :(
Anyone a current addict? Morphine, Xanax, the stuff that makes life less kawaii...
>>6234360
>not just cutting your hair off
go big or go home with the shitposting imo
>>6234370
too bad you didnt encounter an artery
>>6234365
on the bright side, you don't have a huge head.
>>6234347
>>6234373
>So I know I'm not alone in my former self injury as A BOY :(
I was addicted to xanax, and took tramadol for 11 months. what do you want to know?
>>6234378
>>6234262
i did not know that Claudia Gadelha was trans and that her lurks in mtfg ;p
>>6234263
>impying that anorexic girls don't look like gay twinks with long hair.
>not liking muscles on girls.
>>6234366
You can be, even if you're too ugly otherwise you can always do animegao kigurumi cosplay.
>>6234376
wait is that you booger?
>>6234378
Lewd
>>6234381
If it gets better. I've been keeping myself alive, my stupid boy body, for about 24.4 years now. Trying to not crash and burn into a gutter with the punks and animals and warriors and shit. I'm a small soul shot doesn't want to die but a needle in my arm is too preferable to reality these days.
>>6234341
nigger why does everyone think I'm faye when I post I'm 22 not 40 or whatever faye is
>>6234381
>>6234373
I used to be a methylphenidate addict.
>>6234390
you know it
>>6234382
>not liking muscles on girls.
muscles on girls is fine, what you posted before literally would never be found in nature though.
Also I'm not into girls so I don't care too much visually.
>>6234371
>>6234378
At it's widest (the cheekbones) my head is 20 inches around.
I think if you saw me you'd understand. Idk if it's my body or my neck but when I tie my hair back it's like instant man.
Which sucks extra because I might have just landed a job as a ramen chef and I'm definitely gonna have to tie my hair back.
I've successfully kidnapped Grace
>>6234387
Nah, I never had hair as glorious as him.
>>6234397
oh is that where mommys at
>>6234397
hips?
>>6234402
She's mine now
>>6234391
you look like her, now post butt
>>6234390
depends. I am literally crazy, I got off drugs because my bf forced me. Id go back on them instantly if I had a chance to get away with it, and Ive relapsed before.
assuming youre normal other than being trans and transition, things can definitely end up better than theyre now
>>6234393
>I used to be a methylphenidate addict.
arent you like 18?
Iam sorry, no child should have an addict-past
I want to hug and protect you forever ;~;
>>6234393
I'm prescribed that now, desu I can't tell if I should get back on it. I've been in a weed coma the better part of a year now. Fml. I finally got confirmed for endo appointment for July 8th but holy shit that's so. Fucking. Far. Away.
I haven't externalized anything female in a decade. I have 10 years of sexual frustration topping off 10 years suffocating depression and not publishing my fiction. It's got so tangled Just in my head its like an autistic world I live in laying around my house just staring off into space... Idk how to move. I did call a shrink today or a therapist I'll see if they callback.
>>6234346
How do trannies do any of that
I should have never gone to Portland. I miss maddie too much.
>>6234397
BOYMODE BROTHERS
>>6234407
>I want to hug and protect you forever ;~;
would you avoid relapsing for her?
>>6234391
faye is 33 and has amazing genetics that allowed her to transition at 30
my genetics did nothing
what is it when your emotions are so over the top, you think of your significant other and cry because how much you love them, you want to have sex really bad, you also want a baby, you ache all over but especially your hips, and you ate a whole chocolate cheesecake topped with chocolate ganache
I'm at my mom's house drinking. They told me my dress is too short, but i think it's fine. How is everyone
>>6234396
>cheekbones
that's like cis facial structure
>>6234407
19. And I was addicted to Concerta/Ritalin for most of high school. Probably the most time I spent feeling dead in my entire life. I can only thank the people that prescribed it and encouraged it, because I wasn't complaining or fighting anymore. Just a perfect little doll that did all of her chores just like she was asked.
Except she essentially didn't have a soul.
I want to be hugged and protected forever ;~;
>>6234408
I would recommend getting off it if you have any plans to transition. It just kinda numbs you.
wow im so empty without drugs
i think im going to kill myself finally
>>6234417
You were always fat and ugly, did you think hrt would turn you into some qt?
I hate everyone
>>6234419
I have the opposite. I feel pure cringe when I think about being affectionate with anyone.
It just feels wrong to be nice
>>6234430
>>6234419
funny, I don't feel anything besides the general enjoyment of speaking out loud.
>>6234423
>I want to be hugged and protected forever ;~;
I want to do that ;~;
>>6234414
I can only be controlled by force when it comes to this topic I think.
>tfw you're a broken human being who is disabled and can't function beyond sitting around the house all day.
trying out xanax soon, maybe then I'll be able to be anxiety free for a while.
>>6234435
Personally. I feel most comfortable in an environment of hostility. Which is why I like bully anons. Hugboxes just feel wrong.
>>6234421
I'm sure its fine
>>6234438
can you hug and protect me forever too
preferably from myself because im about to shoot myself lol
>>6234438
can we just meet up and do that forever then? because that sounds really really nice ;~;
>>6234439
someone was asking about necks getting smaller in hrt, you had some experience with that, right?
>tfw everyone hates us
>>6234443
I don't like hostility because I can't avoid thinking there's a paralel reasson to it. Bully anons tend to be broken records so it gets boring.
The desire to be abused is a broken link in your head and won't produce good results in most scenarios.
>>6234426
I was just hoping that something would happen and that I might end up happy enough to lose weight and maybe get a boyfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnsjOA1G3wE
>mfw life
Just woke up
How is everyone ^^
post qt haircuts
>>6234444
Why do you want me to be sad
>>6234439
Please be careful. I'm in the same boat as you. I lay on the floor in total NEET status I can't even like do anything as this person anymore. I can't touch his computer etc. It's like I'm an invader. It's tough. Xanax isn't going to make us grow boobs. I'm so terrified to practice my girl voice because I'll never want to switch back and I don't LOOK female I remember that every morning before I smoke out. I walk aimlessly in a park kinda letting my thoughts loop again and again and sometimes writing about transsexual cyborgs like ghost in the shell universe fictions cyberpunk crime novels in my head that never get externalized with music and Japanese theme singing and the projection of who I can never be dances on stage for the DJ and holographic light shows.
Even now I'm getting lost sitting on a bridge at night in a local park. It's too small to jump off but it's long enough to feel thoroughly isolated away from humanity. I am alone in this world. I have to go find souls and bring them with me on my quests.
Music festivals are the only places I love. I can't wait I am staying alive to introduce as a cute little tranny. I don't care if I'm a guy, a girl will see me and suck my cock and I'll know I'll fucking KNOW things can get better and then I can breathe out 10 years of box cutter sharp repression. I'm done. I'm just waiting in isolation. Living in the matrix.
>>6234456
i feel like shit
>>6234456
My stomach is eating itself while I wait for pizza with anon
How are youuu
>>6234454
All fat people are ugly.
>>6234457
how are you floating
>>6234457
good thing you grew up those pixie wings now that you lost your legs.
>>6234445
yes anon, place your heads on my chest and Ill hug you both ;~;
>>6234446
yes! :3
>>6234450
not really? I don't know
>>6234458
why do people that don't know me keep making massive assumptions about me based on drugs?
>>6234457
you just need to corset and do cardio and squats until you're THICCC
>>6234456
>>6234473
get working at it
>>6234474
Victoria is my middle name.
>>6234456
i wish i was this girl shes so fucking hot
>>6234458
>Xanax isn't going to make us grow boobs
honestly, this was my inspiration to actually stop taking methylphenidates
they weren't making me happy, just content enough to stay alive. They weren't moving me in a direction I wanted to go.
>>6234465
b-but you're s-so far away ;~;
>>6234461
no argument here
>>6234478
wait, that was serious? why did you do that?
>>6234467
I used to prescribe them to psychiatric patients before I basically became one. I'm also a pretty fucked up human soul floating in cyber space with not much tethering me to Reality(TM) so I tent to project how I imagine you might have looked and behaved based on
>extremely niche Internet
>sub category of drug
>relatable tfw autism post
And the cherry on top I am very autistic and very high.
>>6234485
I grew my hair out to my nipples, got it cut into a bob last summer, and it keeps getting shorter each time. At this point it's hard to make it look like a women's cut but at least it's low maintenance.
>>6234476
Guhhhhhh ffffffffine
>>6234487
>very high
man fuck you
i hate being out of dope
fuck
>>6234491
corset-story.com
>>6234487
I'm heading into a mental ward on the 1st of the month because I need official diagnoses to apply for disabilities, will they givew me a xanny script if I'm extremely anxious the whole time im in there?
>>6234490
you haven't answered my question
>>6234482
ya ;~;
I should probably leave for tonight,
goofnight <3
>>6234493
Will this even help
>>6234500
sleep tight, hope the hangover is tolerable
>>6234498
Because I hated longer hair and every time I want to get it cut I want to look less femme.
>>6234501
yes, google waist training/corset training
>>6234482
For me I find it very hard to tether down. Since a young age I was in an environment that forced me to scratch like a cat to get out. What manifests as ADHD is my soul tugging me away from dumb fucking shit like 50% of my day being Hebrew sing sing and alphabet and zionists culture including showing ww2 documentaries to 1st graders, and isolating the boys and girls into different rooms :l
So yeah I guess the brain washing pills started to work. I moved in 8th grade found myself surrounded by another regime, the American one. I got bullied immediately obviously hahahaha.
I never did become a tough little anarchist punk boy. I never did get to be the slutty little lesbian goth.
Now I'm a bitter woman with a penis... But I can't concentrate without those pills.
I can't fucking tell if they helped or not. I can't tell if they broke me. I can't tell what the deal is. I did notice a sharp fall off of my ability to work, but I attribute that to dysphoria and my adult self, the woman, waking up being horrified what the stupid child let happen while I walked out.
Idk I'm drunk high and on some pain killers. Not a good night. I feel like I just walked into this thread with a cigarette and threw up unwelcomed at a kids party. Fuck I'm old.
i demand to be cuddled
Can I get ya'll opinion on this? Is my ribcage and shoulders too broad? I'm like 35lb overweight but I don't think my ribcage will shrink as I'm pretty much to the bone there.
I'm 5'7" 160lb btw.
OH MY GOD NOOOOOOOOOO
I WAS DUMPING THE LIKE 5 GRAINS OF POWDERS WORTH OF WEED SCRAPS I FOUND ON MY DESK
FROM A PILLBOTTLE BUT MY HAND SLIPPED AND I SCOOPED IT OFF THE TABLE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I HATE BEING FUCKIN POOR
>>6234513
Literally the same weight and height as me
>>6234518
What's wrong with floral?
>>6234495
They'll likely put you down as a red mark or some color codes protocol meaning DRUG SEEKING BEHAVIOR. POSSIBLE TRAUMA. CLIENT EXHIBITS SHARP AND DRAMATIC FRAMES OF MOVEMENT. DESPONDENT TO SURROUNDINGS. DIAGNOSIS: UNABLE.
SUGGEST: FURTHER EVALUATION.
They'd never let me use those words actually I'd have to dumb it down ironically you have to write so a retard can figure out. No smarty pants language on charts
I can't believe it's 2016 and you *still* can't transfer your consciousness into a vat-grown body. Science has failed us.
Posted this same bit in another thread, not really sure which one to go to. Just looking for some guidance is all....
Ok so, first off, I am male (bi, if it means anything)
-I have always been more feminine acting/looking/feeling.
-Recently started crossdressing and am loving it so far, I feel more normal now than I ever have.
-Am learning makeup techniques and whatnot to try and look as much like a girl as possible.
-I would like to be in girlmode all the time, except I can't because of where I live. There are too many bible thumpers and rednecks for me to feel safe walking around in a dress.
Pretty much, I'm only "male" in body. 95% of everything about me is female oriented otherwise. I try to be as hairless as I can be, I wear girls clothing, I relate more emotionally to women than I do men, again most aspects of my being are girly. My voice and my dick would be the only nonpassing factors I think.
However...
-I'm not necessarily unhappy being a male, I just don't think it was meant for me.
-I'm not sure I'd identify as trans, being that I don't know if I would ever really want surgery/hormones and the like, but then what am I?
And before you say labels don't matter, I know they don't but they provide a contextual reference point and I would like to be able to express this dilemma in fewer words.
tldr, Born male, wish I was female, not sure about surgery. Wat do?
>>6234525
Within our life time maybe but we will be like the titanic passengers. We already left harbor. We're always going to be old meta.
>tfw all future hons
>lust edition
I'm watching a programme about has semen stains helped catch a murder suspect so I'm not feeling too lusty t b h.
>>6234525
can my vat grown body be a short redhead with big boobs
>>6234526
not wanting to do pills and get srs doesnt mean youre not trans
you most definitely are but youre looking to seek a more sane approach to becoming a girl
you will likely not find it here
get on hormones and keep your spirits up
>>6234532
underbust is better for waist training
>>6234495
>script
most mental wards have a psychiatrist on-site, so yeah
they might even determine that a different anti-depressant is better for you
>>6234500
I just wanna cry on someone like a little girl out of exhaustion and stress and anxiety
>>6234501
just remember that it moves your organs around and can be dangerous.
>>6234509
>I never did become a tough little anarchist punk boy. I never did get to be the slutty little lesbian goth.
I actually replaced the pills with a stimulant/antidepressant called Wellbutrin, which allowed me to cut off the drugs altogether. I'm pre-everything though, so I don't know what's going on.
>threw up unwelcomed at a kids party
you're fine, nobody's looking at you funny.
if anything, we're all throwing up.
>>6234531
Life lessons. DONT COME ON THINGS
D O N T C O M E O N T H I N G S
i fucking hate the river selection captcha jesus christ
its so fucking buggy and retarded omfg
>>6234537
oddish pls post bust/waist/hip measurements
>>6234535
Tru, I don't thing you can waist train with an over bust. Like your ribs are going to stop the one piece steel rod from flexing correctly.
Also get it custom fitted if you're serious, and get ready for 16 hrs a day in it
>>6234513
>>6234515
you weight seems to compensate the shoulders but you should do something about the flabby arms.
also, I sort of like the cut but floral dresses scream hon unless you live somewhere they are common
>>6234536
I've had bad reactions to every anti-depressant I've ever been given, if they give me anti depressants I WILL have panic attacks and extreme suicidal thoughts until I am taken off.
>>6234526
Stop looking to the Institution or others online for affirmation and accept your choice. It will be tough. Now you are against the system and whether you know it or not you've already made your choice.
Advice:
>switch to research.
>avoid self medication
>find a specialized shrink even if it means waiting a bit
>get out of your mind the malware of 'gender'. You're having A Y CHROMESOM PROBLEM.
I can't advise more I'm only 2 steps ahead just not making appointments with endo. But I know for fact it's my choice now and I'm tired of slowing myself down out of fear (even justified fear).
>>6234525
damm niggaa thats a qt
>>6234526
a lot of people say they wouldn't want hormones until their body changes too much to look female anymore.
at least that was my experience...
>>6234546
>hey just get on hormones legally ;)
>what does it mean to not have insurance???????
>>6234513
Whatever bra you're using it probably misfitted, that arm fit bulge will normally disappears with a well fitted bra
>>6234541
I've never measured
>>6234536
I can't take wellbutrin with methylphenidate it makes my BP too high and doesn't help my anorexia.
I never dreamed I could become this broken person. I've only ever been a childish ghost, property of my parents.
>>6234534
>but youre looking to seek a more sane approach to becoming a girl
denial isn't particularly sane, it is in terms that everyone has it but it's not particularly healthy behavor.
>>6234538
rivers are really the worst
my gf told me to draw out my emotional state and i got out a crude childlike sketch of my current feels and i think i killed us both drawing the two of us smiling and holding a baby
im terrible ahhh
>>6234552
No insurance means getting fucking a job and getting fucking insurance. Why the fuck don't you have insurance. I'm mad at the system not you. Especially if you're not American and against an even worse system of social regime.
>>6234554
pls do
>>6234557
im tellin the motherfucker theyre a tranny dude where did you get denial from that
when i hang out with my ex i'm not sure if i want to sleep with him but i don't not want to sleep with him
what should i do?
>>6234559
its hard to get a job with actual fucking benefits when youre a talentless neet like every 4chin user especially considering the amt of people that do drugs, ameriburger or not
>>6234561
Let me see if i have a tape measure
Whats normal
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>>6234542
you went that route, Faye?
>>6234558
Loomis says that child like drawings are a previous step to learning anatomy, you have to unlearn missconceptions about what makes agood drawning before improving on a technical level or you'll be tied to your mistakes.
>>6234565
Tell him this and then decide for yourself if you're willing to attach emotional strings and what that means for you. And will he cut those strings. If yes, don't fuck him.
You might just want to distance out. It's okay to not be friends with ex.
>>6234569
I'm 36/28/40 but that's pretty unusual
>>6234571
loomis can suck my dick
>>6234573
What order is that? Bust/waist/hips? Where do i measure each one?
How much money do I need to get a passing trans qt?
I have $30,000 or so right now.
>boymode is failing early
>people at work teasing
need to get outtt. how do i find a sugar daddy
>>6234562
I don't get the sane part in his actions.
I like milfs but I'm not particularly a motherfucker.
>>6234570
floral dresses aren't something most normal women wear unless they are hot and like to show they look good with everything, it's more for old ladies.
as I said, unless you live in a country o city where people tend to wear that.
>>6234577
can you define "get" please
>>6234534
It's not even that I don't want to change, I really just think it's too much money/time etc. Also I wouldn't want to live around here if I did pursue all the nessecary arrangements, I really don't think my family would be receptive to that.
>>6234546
But I don't think I need a shrink, I just don't know where it puts me on the spectrum. That's the identity crisis I'm having. Also, I am past gender, I understand that at the end of the day our bodies are just vessels and are meaningless compared to souls and the afterlife etc. What should I research? Where do I start?
>>6234568
Jobs are awful :( I'd be a hypocritical douche to tell you go get one. But you can get on disability or welfare if needed. This is life threatening if untreated. Seriously. It's no joke to be in the wrong body. This isn't a sex gratification thing. This isn't a thrill. It's an anomaly yet to be understood but very real in its claim over victims. What would you do if you got cancer? This is your cancer. Start finding out ways to fight.
To get specific:
>medicade
>moving states on zero budget to move in with other tranny (good luck vetting one tho)
>ignoring all other problems until HRT and a very trusted therapist on your team.
>by now NEET status should be gone
Idk I'm trying to help I'm just as broken inside idk how to dig myself out even :(
>>6234579
I know what you mean. Waiters and stuff have been calling me miss when I'm eating lunch with my coworkers. So far they've been ignoring it lol.
>>6234576
yes that's bust/waist/hips
generally you measure bust and hips at the widest point, and waist at the narrowest
like this pic
>>6234583
Kidnap or obtain by other means, consensually or not
>>6234575
I was joking, your situation sounds rough and no one in the internet can tell you anything to help you out. All I can do is letting you know I was paying attention and try to make you relax a little.
I really like Loomis, he has a decent system for begginers.
good morning girls !!
how is everyone rn?? what are we talking about??
>>6234584
I didn't think I needed a shrink either but then how old am I? 24.5 oh fuck right I'm not smarter than everyone or smarter than most.
Shrinks nah. Therapy? Yes madam you'll need it :pm
>>6234589
you don't need any money, being a dedicated autistic neet chaser here can yield results. don't get discouraged and you'll find some hanger ons if you're remotely attractive.
>>6234587
i work at a hospital and even though i have a male nametag if i use my shit female voice i pass half the time. but people have dementia so idk
>>6234594
Wait can you explain? It reads like sarcasm
>>6234594
Will the money help me be a more attractive candidate?
>>6234579
can't you make it work? follow their jokes and slowly make it a thing that you're a feminin man until they accept that being a woman makes sense. at some point become a cockslave or whatever the memes are.
>>6234584
psychs tend to be a good idea, trans or cis, as long as you don't treat them like priests telling the word of God.
>you will never be pregnant
>>6234603
ya
a 28 centimetre waist would be a bit interesting lol
Whats the ld50 for penis?
>>6234579
>tfw never failed boymode or been gendered female
>>6234570
Get one, make that into boobs
>>6234571
I've had corsets, and researched tight lacing a lot, but I'm too nervous to get one fitted/my body has been changing, and I know that's the only option to buying that type of training corset.
You can still get ones that'll make you look good wearing them tho
>>6234606
it will allow you to meet up with your prey
>>6234610
you have no waist?????? spooky
>>6234612
11 inches
>>6234610
i'm just doing what needs to be done.
>>6234614
>/my body has been changing
you're still getting more femme? what do you eat to get that?
>>6234591
I'm going to a mental hospital in 12 days and I'll probably be fired from my job sometime soon because I keep going home early after working 3 or 4 hours and having a panic attack that forces me to leave.
>>6234598
at least you're a girl
>tfw you accidentally click on manycam
https://youtu.be/9BhqoSajnPI
>>6234613
>tfw you only get pity genders
>>6234607
The more I think about it, the more I feel like the struggle of trying to change would be the difficult and awful part for me. As I stand I could probably just tuck away my penis and cover my facial hair and just carry on like that, or will I just hate myself later on?
Maybe I do need a shrink... maybe I'm just high...
>>6234558
>my emotional state rn
I'm in love with you.
Just text me, ok?
>>6234627
you will hate yourself later on
my whole life I was like "haha, I mean, if I could just push a button and be a girl I totally would, so I guess I'm TECHNICALLY transgender, but, like, it ain't no thing"
NOPE
do you get mistaken for female/do you look femme right now? cause that could be relieving some stuff that's gonna get way worse
>>6234626
>tfw the only time someone gendered me female was when I checked my levels and they felt like hugboxing me because dumb old women
>>6234626
stop bdd-posting ur qt
>>6234630
i don't have your number though or i totally would anon
>>6234630
texting girl i love, maybe it's you
>>6234628
are you sure you're measuring the right place? when I first did it I measured the ilium like a retard and thought I had really narrow hips
turns out you're supposed to measure from the top of the femur
>>6234638
that's so sweet ;u;
>>6234627
if you already pass I don't see why you wouldn't want to take pills to pass better and forever, there's barely any reasson not to do that and they are all pretty lame.
most people with narratives similar to yours don't really look like women and trust pills to maybe some day do it, if you're there then just keep it and be happy. you've go it easier than most.
>>6234640
honestly anon idk.. i havn't really looked into it recently but ive been trying hard to lose weight, so once ive lost a bit more i might try and figure it out
>>6234630
I saw her first, goddamit!
>>6234640
what, really? then I guess I have hips, who would had though?
>>6234625
In a very very lose sense of the term, I don't know what it feels like to be like Edie, I don't have any of those experiences, I don't have any of her socialization experience, I am treated like a beta male that people get angry about because he doesn't know his place and defends himself.
The small indication that I might actually be a woman, is that my partners have consistently said I don't act like a man, even before hrt.
>>6234633
>tfw you live in new hugbox city
that's my daily desu. and then someone makes sure to be honest w/ me and say have a nice day sir. ;-;7
>>6234635
it's not bdd if it's trve
[spoiler]no u[/spoiler]
>>6234628
>you're a girl too sheen !
no, I'm a man.
I have a penis and a beard and a giant male skeleton
just because I have long hair and wear womens clothing and take pills that do nothing doesn't make me a woman
everyone here takes hrt and within weeks looks like they were born cis, everyone has two laser sessions and their beard hair is gone
I'm just a joke of a man
>>6234251
I play a bit of everything. But this band is guitar and lead vocals. Nah that's not me. I can't listen to myself back, let alone post it here
>>6234652
it isn't true tho
>>6234651
you could shave your head and wear mens clothing and talk in your guy voice and people would still gender you female
>>6234590
i feel empowered by the togetherness i feel with my gf, because i'm not focusing on the baby neither of us could biologically have, but the fact that she's the one person i could raise a child with, because i love her. so there's sweetness there too.
gobble my knob m8, eating cold, slightly undercooked pumpkin pie and crying is the feeling of sheer living on the edge y'all are missing out on
>>6234652
I wish I could pass too ;_;
>tfw been gendered female once in my life
>>6234651
>a beta male that people get angry about because he doesn't know his place and defends himself.
what does it feel that you're the definition of moe in 4chan but not in real life?
>>6234658
the edge is a nice place to be
>>6234663
kayla would call people all kinds of names, kayla actually has had a lot of progress.
I only hate myself, I actually have made no progress.
>>6234650
yep
I measured my ilium and it was 36", which I wasn't too happy about because I'm 5'11"
then I measured my hips properly and got 40", which the internet seems to suggest is pretty much spot on for my height
>>6234654
sheen no ;____;
Post old boy pics
also there's this if anyone wants it
http://www.calculator.net/body-type-calculator.html
>>6234664
http://www.omocat-blog.com/post/67079004346/a-project-i-literally-did-overnight-gonna-make-it
There is no moe most of the time with straight blue collar men, except when I really dressed up the one time, and they were literally petting me and stroking my leggings and arms because the material was soft . And the other time they petted me for doing a good job... Ok it's complicated and I only remember the bad stuff when I'm sad, like hitting on my gf like I'm not there and then being surprised id say something or like being upset at me giving advice to them and stuff
I want to eat an apple but it's 11pm and everything is closed. Why do I have to live this life of suffering? No one can understand my pain.
>>6234651
Totally off topic but just wanted to let you know thanks for the movie source. I lve always loved and instantly knew that was Frank Frazetta artwork, yet i never knew they came out with a movie that he coproduced. No clue how i missed that.
should i watch madoka magica?
>>6234687
awwww I really wanted to know your measurements lol
I planmed an intense weekend of group sluttiness before going to momocon so i wouldn't be too tempted to be a slampig around my studio members
Instead i fell with a cold after a threesome so i guess this is a bit karmic
I hope i'm better before i have to ride the train
I've been hanging out a lot with his lady i met on tinder
It's been a few weeks, and we're holding hands and kissing now. Not very often but every so often, we have a nice tender smooch.
I think we like each other.
anyways
>>6234692
yes
>>6234683
>>6234691
I'm old, we know things ._.;
>>6234656
>imblyming
it rly is tbqh. i've spent 19 years with this manly stronk bod. i know it too well sadly.
>>6234662
desu i just wish my city would be honest. well i'd love to pass, but that's beyond my reaches.
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>>6234685
You get a certian image imposed on to you here because you're a late transitioner that looks good, it's completely vain and no one should assume that your life is a certain way for the snippets we get here. It's also pretty hard to know when you're serious about something. I don't think you should let men stroke your leggings, though.
Is it really that blue collar around your parts? I've gotten the people hitting on my gfs and not getting why I wouldn't like it, even in 100% malemode. It sort of sucks but you usually can chose the places you go to and the people you surrounds yourself with.
>>6234694
I'll find out later. I tried to measure with my thumbnail but I'm drunk but i dont tthink i have a 76 inch bust and a 12 inch waist
>>6234707
pls no bully lainon.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone, I really should just try and stay away
nobody needs another hon in the thread
>>6234692
it's the best magical girl show for people who hate magical girls show.
pretty cool aesthetics one you get used to the long faces.
>>6234699
great movie
>>6234713
nooo sheen :_:
dont leave from thread unless its for your own sake
>>6234701
... my mom did his style artwork in high school, in the 70s. Yes. Yes we old folks do.
seeing how I'll be in south east asia anyway in fall should I get some revision done just for #aesthetics ?
>>6234631
about 5 years ago I had hair halfway down my back, and if clean shaven, I would be mistaken for a girl quite often. since then, I have a mohawk and short hair. I'm fairly sure I pull of girls clothing, dunno if I'd get mistaken for a girl though.
For a frame of reference, I"m 5'9" 145lbs, Twink like body.
>>6234642
I guess what I'm asking is can it stop here or will it just create problems later on? I don't want to be too late on hormones if they're that important... but I can't really wrap my head around it being something I would be doing forever. It's overwhelming
>>6234719
get some FFS so you look less like your dad
>>6234713
we all have good days and bad days, you're nice to have around on your good days and I really wish there were something I could say to help you when you're down but just text isn't enough to help anyone.
Consider that a good number of anons would be considered hons and we just don't want to deal with people complaining in exchange of no one ever remembering us.
>>6234718
artwork in that style or did she work with him?
>>6234699
favorite movie all time
>>6234721
why so salty ?
pork chop sandwiches
hey look what I did for y'all
>>6234726
>>6234726
>>6234726
>>6234726
>>6234722
In that style, she failed an art project because she did a rehash of Conan and two harpys. The teacher didnt like the nudity.
>>6234720
it really depends on your age, but in average I'd say your body will get more male as time goes. if you think you can deal with that it's cool, no one wants to be functionally drug dependant.
you have to consider that in exchange for taking hormones you could probably just live as a woman permanently without anyone saying anything, imagining you pass without any kind of trick and you're of age to post here.
If you're under 18 get ready to turn into something you'll as a monster in a few years.
>>6234695
okie
>>6234716
then i will have to check it out if you think oldboy is great, i spoiled some stuff for myself though but it's the only reason I got interested
>>6234720
i would give this matter a lot more thought, and quick, cause i don't wanna rush you into anything but i'm pretty sure you should be transitioning
>>6234713
no stay <3
>>6234736
>i spoiled some stuff for myself though but it's the only reason I got interested
it's rough, I wouldn't had seen it without the spoilers but it kind of takes a bit away from the surprise. I still laughed at louds and clapped when it happened, it's just too good in context.
>>6234708
I was trying to do figure painting, Board games, magic, dnd and miniature games, I was really into it, but sometimes things are bad, sometimes they're good.
The leggings (and top feeling) thing... Well being completely 100 into girls, I'll just say it shows how desperately I need literally anyone to tell me I'm special. I've contemplated being with men just to maybe feel Like someone does.
>>6234732
I'm turning 21 in November, Prefacing this next sentence with the fact that yes I know results may vary, but what is a general age cutoff for hrt? When is "too late"?
>>6234749
>but what is a general age cutoff for hrt? When is "too late"?
when you have 2.5 kids and dog
>>6234748
you sound pretty alpha here, alpha females are allowed to have a small harem of nerd men that admire them even without ever going to get any out of it.
>>6234749
Faye transitioned like in her mid or late 20's, I think, it worked for her. Basic started transitioning at 25 and it sort of works. Some transition at 20 and don't look too good. It depends entirely on genes, and how you make yourself look.
>>6234762
If I achieve at least the dog part am I allowed to start moans or will the gatekeepers demand my kids' names?
>>6234747
saw homuraxmami fight in rebellion and was like omg, and then saw some clip of somebody i think homura killing someone or the other by sapping their gem with another gem or something where it was all like "you can go back and stop it from being like this right?", looked bretty good but i still know basically nothing aside from that shit gets seriously fucked up
>>6234779
WAIT
WAIT
You didn't spoil THAT then? Go watch it now, 4 first episodes. You can thank me in an hour.
>>6234152
Summer
