We need a term for it.
You're not as gay as bisexuals since you only fuck a subset of men i.e. mtfs.
But you're not straight because you are kidding, you want your big fat cock in that mtf boypussy while her useless little cock slops against her chest.
Sooooooo what do call these kinds of faggots?
Chaser isn't really concise since it doesn't distinguish between mtf or ftm chasers.
What should we call people sexually attracted to mtfs?
gay
people who need to put a label to everything should kill themselves.
>>6137762
Labels are a good way to avoid explanations.
Imagine if you had to explain what it meant to be "gay" everytime two guys wanted to date?
>>6137773
except you don't, because all everyone needs to know is in front of them
>>6137779
I would love to have some kind of identifying term for the fact that I'm attracted to mtf girls
>>6137785
you're just a faggot
>>6137791
I like androgynous girls, mtfs, and very feminine boys.
If I was a faggot, I'd just like dudes.
>>6137800
>>If I was a faggot, I'd just like dudes.
this. people don't understand that it isn't some repressed gay or bisexuality
I would never say I'm "gay" or "bi" because I don't like regular men, even if they are conisdered to be more on the "pretty" side like dicaprio or mcconaughey.
I exclusively like MTFs. If you sound or look like a traditional man, there is no way in hell I'm going to get a boner for you
>>6137751
this post is why trans people fucking hate chasers
>>6137842
>If you sound or look like a traditional man, there is no way in hell I'm going to get a boner for you
Eleven kinds of THIS. Hell even the kind of traditionally girlish boys like bieber do fucking nothing for my dick. Dicaprio is a good looking guy, but there's nothing attractive about him to me.
We call it baby steps to being a full blown faggot. Since you have to do mental gymnastics to get cock, then you want cock more and more until you are a cockmuncher or a tranny yourself.
>>6137842
We're still technically bisexual, of course when you say you're bi people assume you're into normal dudes, so I get not wanting to deal with that.
You just really have to stop giving a fuck, the label is secondary, acceptance and understanding of what you like is whats really important.
Fag, nigger, slut, all just words to make you feel bad about shit that don't matter.
>>6137868
>Dicaprio
>good looking
>>6137751
>subset of men i.e. mtfs
rude desu
>>6137908
Sorry I don't know what guys are good looking. Its probably because I'm not a faggot.
>>6137925
I'm not a faggot either but Dicaprio isn't a good looking dude mang.
>>6137908
>Implying you wouldn't let Oscar Award Winning Actor and all-around-stud Leo fuck your brains out if you had the chance
I fucking would
>>6137751
>>6137785
>>6137800
>>6137842
>>6137868
Alright boys, here's the problem with your argument.
This has nothing to do with how you feel sexually, but more to do with what would most likely happen if you told a trans girl you were "MtF-sexual" or some shit like that.
Now, I'm not quite as bad about it, but many trans girls DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE THEM DISTINCT FROM CIS WOMEN.
Now, I get it. We are inherently different, and as I said, I'm not as bad about it. But when you walk up to a person who hates the fact that she was born male, and then address the fact that she was born male by implying you're attracted to her for that SOLE PURPOSE, she'll be more likely to slap you than anything else.
This is why most people don't like chasers. Now please, stop this nonsense.
>>6137751
>chasers like girls with dicks
>MtFs hate their dicks
Star-crossed lovers.
>>6138096
Saying that the sole reason I'm attracted to a mtf is penis is as dumb as saying a straight guy is only attracted to a woman because she has a vagina.
I've shot down plenty of gross fucking drag queens, hons, lantern jawed trans, and even some cuties who were crazier than a bag full of cats and meth. Its not just OMG PENIS ON GIRL MUST SEX, you dumbass.
>>6138112
but unlike women who like their vaginas we hate our penises
>>6138112
Then please explain to me the distinction you are making between cis women and trans women when you say that you want to define AN ENTIRE NEW ORIENTATION based on it.
On that same note, then would you post-op trans women in the same category as pre-op (putting them under the "MtF-sexual" (or whatever you want to call the orientation) category) or would you put them in the same category as cis women?
Or why not just call yourself straight? It sure would make the trans girls feel better about you.
>>6138136
would you put post op*
I can't fucking grammar today
>>6138136
I don't want an entirely new orientation. I want a term for the fact that I like pre/post op mtf's that isn't "chaser". That implies that I want to get to know her as a person instead of "OMG YOU HAVE A DICK? IM GONNA FUCK YOUR BUTT NOW!"
A post op mtf has a personality that's a lot closer to a pre op than to a cis woman.
I don't consider myself straight because everytime someone mentions that they'd be cool with dating a mtf, all they hear is "faggot in denial", or "chaser".
I like girls. Usually the girls I get along with best are mtf. Usually the ones that have the personalities I like are mtf. And usually the ones I'm most attracted to, even without seeing OMG KAWK, are mtf.
So I'd appreciate a designation that isn't a overt implication that I just like dicks on chicks, no matter who its attached to.
>>6138096
>many trans girls DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE THEM DISTINCT FROM CIS WOMEN.
correction many western trans women*
>>6138132
yes because all women like the vagina and all trans women hate their penis
why is it so hard to understand we want to date a trans girl who we are sexually compatible with not the majority of you.
I don't want to change anyone i want them to be likable and for us to have great sex without any manipulation at all.
>>6138160
It means you like what you like. Why the fuck do you want a special snowflake term for your particular attraction? Just fuck who you find sexy and stop being an insecure little bitch.
>>6138160
Alright, now I can see your point. As I stated, I personally am not so bad about all that stuff, in fact after reading that you really seem like a decent person, especially since you are making the distinction of favoring personality over having a penis.
If you could just humor me for a moment, could you tell me your thoughts on this hypothetical situation?
Say you had four women who are vying for your affection. One of them is cis, one of them is post-op mtf, one of them is a completely passing pre-op mtf, and one of them is a complete hon.
In this hypothetical situation, only the hon expresses that she is comfortable with her penis. The passing pre-op would rather you completely ignored it, and plans on getting SRS sometime in the future anyway.
Now, besides these exceptions, they all have the same basic personality.
Which one are you likely to favor, and why? Again, this is completely hypothetical
>>6138188
not that anon but
labels help us find each other and more over it plants the seeds of like minded folks for a community to form. You already have your term for similar folks without it changing what your sexuality is so you wouldn't understand. It feels very distancing to be attracted to trans women other guys want nothing to do with you other than gays trying to convert you. Or at least this is how many of us feel
(side note i have many friends who know i like trans women and i still have tons of friends it's not mentioned all the time and no one makes fun of me but i'm in a liberal circle)
Having a trans attracted community would help a lot with the kind of gross creepy shit if we had strong male role models maybe some celebrity or charismatic speaker and of course we could be bi or straight or even gay depending on our own identity but in addition we have this thing that separates us from others.
>>6138188
Because unless you have GHB, you kinda need to get to know someone before you fuck them. And in order to get to know a transgirl, you have to get over a huge fucking hurdle in their mind that "THIS GUY IS SHOWING INTEREST IN ME, ITS ONLY BECAUSE OF MY DICK".
>>6138194
Thanks.
Hypothetical situation: Hon is out because I don't date ugly girls. IDGAF how comfortable or not she is with her dick, if I'm not attracted to her I'm not dating her, let alone screwing her.
Of the remaining three, having roughly the same personality, who's the one with glasses, black hair, and good boobs, without tattoos? Because that's the one I'm favoring heavily.
The thing that I like the MOST about dating a mtf is that they're almost ALWAYS appreciative when you do something nice for them. Hold a door open for a cisgirl? Meh. For a transgirl? She'll say THANK YOU everytime. That's why.
>tfw I like using my cock
>tfw a hon though
Apparently my love of my cock is a desirable trait. Too bad I'm completely unpassable.
>>6138208
that's unfortunate have you tried facial feminization surgery?
>>6138208
Your love of your cock isn't a desireable trait. Its that when I'm dating someone I want them to be happy with who they are or actively work to change it. I'd feel like I couldn't help if my girlfriend is stuck with something she fucking hates and can't do shit about, just like I'd feel bad for her if she had 11 toes on one foot and couldn't get six removed.
Just because a 100 year old woman isn't distraught about her vag doesnt mean she's dateable though.
>being in a relationship where your partners genitals are completely off the table
Who tolerates this shit?
>>6137751
>you want your big fat cock in that mtf boypussy while her useless little cock slops against her chest.
That's hot.
>>6137751
>while her useless little cock slops against her chest.
its not really little if it can hit her chest
>>6138160
>I don't want an entirely new orientation. I want a term for the fact that I like pre/post op mtf's that isn't "chaser".
>I don't want an entirely new orientation
>I just want to coin a word which will be used to concisely convey the type of person i am attracted to
>this is somehow different
>>6137751
>fuck a subset of men
That's 100% gay. Stop making up snowflake terms for yourself.
Just grow a pair, admit you're gay and date femboys.
>>6138449
yeah if you don't want to be seen as gay referring to the people you wanna fuck as men seems incorrect
This is a tricky one. I really liked trans-attracted as a qualifier, but chasers have been using it for longer than many people on this board have been alive.
Would really rather this sort of thing didn't need to be explicitly called out desu.
Maybe being trans attracted truly isn't gay at all, but the fact that there are straight guys who outright refuse to date them gives them full authority to roast you and call you a fag.
>>6138487
Not even trans, just giving the femgen perspective.
If he grew a pair and could admit he's gay, he'd be happier and could date people who don't have a prob with dick stuff.
>MTF hate their cocks
>cock is refashion into a pseuso-vagina
>MTF loves new vagina
>pseuso-vagina is still the cock
>MTF loves her cock again
No wonder most people think we have a mental illness.
My genitals are a part of me and will always be a part of me.
What I really hate are the testicles...99% of my dysphoria comes from not having breasts and having disgusting meat flaps which are filled with testosterone.
>>6138250
This faggot knows his shit! Imagine if my boyfriend wouldn't let me touch his penis! No way.
>>6138516
Oh my god, you're sane, I love you!
>>6138499
I think the problem is that they don't want people to think they are attracted to normal masculine guys, yet most people will assume they are because no one thinks "Oh hes bi? Must be attracted to mtfs/feminine guys only!"
That's why I've always kept my sexuality to myself, I don't have time to educate people on this shit or deal with their assumptions. If I had a bf though, yeah, I wouldn't care what people called me.
>>6137860
Second. Why the specification of useless if you like cock so much OP?
>>6138523
Ewww stop chasing me chaser!
Hahahahaha just kidding! ;)
How about we repurpose Transsexuals for the chasers? If you are MTF or FTM you are transgender and if you are attracted to them you are transsexual.
>>6137751
>a subset of men i.e. mtfs.
Ayyyyyy
>you want your big fat cock in that mtf boypussy while her useless little cock slops against her chest
[Heavy breathing]
m-m-maybe
>Chaser isn't really concise since it doesn't distinguish between mtf or ftm chasers
But nobody likes FtMs tho LUL
>What should we call people sexually attracted to mtfs?
Real men.
If you wont fuck a passable, petite, feminine MtF then you are a faggot plain and simple. The real issue is the social stigma surrounding being with a trans girl, most guys just dont want to deal with it, at all... but if they knew no one would find out? majority of straight males would slay that boipussy in a heartbeat. #carthonit #realtalk #dasrightmane
>>6137900
>Since you have to do mental gymnastics to get cock
>implying all guys interested in trans girls want that girl dick
Im fine with just pounding boipussy and getting head.... u mad? :^)
>>6138188
>Just fuck who you find sexy and stop being an insecure little bitch
The Carthaginian concurs with this statement desu
>b-b-but we need labels to find each other and f-form a community
LUL xD KEK
>>6138250
>Who tolerates this shit?
Nobody, its a meme. 80% of it is mental masturbation from guys that beat off to shemale porn but are virgins that have never touched a cis girl, let alone a trans girl; but they read that trans girls dont like to use their dicks on forums like this so it must be true in real life. The other 20% is from feminist cucks that are in meme tier "relationships" with psycho nut jobs.
If you are dominant and assertive, and not a little bitch, your trans girl partner will just submit to whatever you want. If you are a little fag and say shit like "may I suck your penis" she will just be like "lol no". If you are a desirable enough partner she will do whatever it takes to keep you, plain and simple.
>>6138449
>Just grow a pair, admit you're gay and date femboys
Oh shit was this just another false flag thread by the disgruntled femboi
>>6138608
>If you are dominant and assertive, and not a little bitch, your trans girl partner will just submit to whatever you want. If you are a little fag and say shit like "may I suck your penis" she will just be like "lol no". If you are a desirable enough partner she will do whatever it takes to keep you, plain and simple.
I always learn so much from you bro. I weep when I think of the ones I let slip away because I didn't know better.
I know its a long shot, but is there anyway to undo the damage once they already know you want the D?
>>6137751
Nobody is straight, it's humanly impossible.
>>6138627
>I know its a long shot, but is there anyway to undo the damage once they already know you want the D?
Nah its either "cuck or fuck" desu senpai. Once a female discards you into the "cuck" pile its over..... on to the next one familia, and try not to fuck up this time.
>>6138641
>Nah its either "cuck or fuck" desu senpai. Once a female discards you into the "cuck" pile its over
Fuck. Live and learn.
>>6138638
Yes but Transsexuals aren't attracted to fem boys, only transwomen.
>>6138442
This, Sexual orientation isnt a thing, its just a word we use to describe our attraction on the basis of gender and sex. OP just say straight, the general population has no need to know that you are into trans because it really does just point out that you want a girl with a penis which wouldnt be visable, so unless you find a girl that constantly goes around calling herself trans (who is most likely just an attention whore because mtfs tend to fit on the binary and therefore they are a woman first and trans is only needed for specifics) which leads me questioning what is she transitioning to? transtransgender?
>>6138649
Have the same type of bodies and same fem drugs though. Just dress and act different.
Why automatically write off people who would be cool with your dick fetish?
>>6138657
Because femboys are horrible.
Femboys are just twinks who act like how /r9k/ think women act
>>6138657
It is not about writing people off it is about which type of people a person is attracted to. Transsexuals are attracted to transwomen.
>>6138660
don't act like women, we act like chill boys
>>6138663
Whatever, I'm just saying if you're attracted to the body type but say you hate the way mtf act, then why not us?
>>6138665
>femboys acting like chill boys
Be careful though, fellow chasergens. It will go too far and you'll be transitioning before you know it
>>6138657
AFAIK, femboys use different drugs and hormone regimens to avoid getting tits and looking too feminine, and those that do get tits hate them in a similar way MtFs hate their penises.
>>6138250
Meh. My partner can touch my genitals all they want, but I can't get an erection anymore, nor do I get any pleasure from it. If that still makes them happy, sure, I guess, go right ahead, but I think that's kinda weird.
>>6138608
Hell of a post m8
>>6137751
Why aren't you guys just calling yourselves "Admirers" ?
It's a term that 's already around to describe what you are into/ what you are. Historically I'm pretty sure "Admirer" was the positive connotation and "Chaser" was the negative, derisive version.
Anyway, you guys are probably fighting an uphill battle because the current political agenda is to push for trans as being considered the exact same as whatever gender they are wanting to be. I personally believe it's causing most of them to develop a neurosis over this similar to how modern feminism makes women miserable when they try to stick to it's dogma ...but hey, that's just my personal opinion man.
>>6137751
There's already gynemimetophilia and gynandromorphophilia as terms for attraction to trans women. So you can use gynemimetophile/gynemimetophiliac or gynandromorphophile/gynandromorphophiliac.
>>6139789
stop making up words anon!
>>6139789
Alternatively, faggot is much simpler to pronounce
>>6138765
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attraction_to_transgender_people
>A study employing the penile plethysmograph demonstrated that the arousal patterns, genital and subjective, of men who self-report attraction to trans women are similar to those of straight men, and different from those of gay men. The study showed that those men, also known in literature as gynandromorphophiliacs, are strongly aroused to female stimuli but weakly if at all to male stimuli. They differ from both straight and gay men, however, in displaying strong attraction to shemale stimuli as well, which provoked as much arousal in the gynandromorphophilic subjects as the female stimuli.
>The study also found that autogynephilia is common among gynandromorphophiliacs, with 42% of them scoring above 1 point on a questionnaire measuring autogynephilic arousal, compared to 12% of straight men and 0% of gay men.
>In the sample, 41.7% of gynandromorphophiliacs identified as bisexual, with the remainder identifying as straight. Bisexual gyandromorphophiliacs did not display more arousal to male stimuli than their heterosexual counterparts, however, they could be distinguished by their significantly higher level of autogynephilic arousal.
>>6139902
how about...
"Trags" or "Traggots"
>trans atrracted fags
>>6137751
>You're not as gay as bisexuals since you only fuck a subset of men i.e. mtfs.
Latin vocabulary has served transgender concepts well before, so might I suggest the term 'sesquisexual'? https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/sesqui-
>>6137900
>We call it baby steps to being a full blown faggot.
I've been a chaser for ten years brother. At this rate, I'm never gonna make it to full blown AIDS.
>>6138871
We don't do different hormones for the most part, lots of the experimental stuff like SERM is a wild card. Not gona risk myself till others prove I won't get burnt.
The only 'experimental' we use a lot is bicalutamide and that's cause it has less side effects and doesn't wreck dick like older blockers do.
And it's true we diet to slow breast growth and I don't exactly love having them but someone you like doing stuff with them is a turn on.
>>6139718
it's kind of cringe worthy and hons use it like all the time
I'll take it over chaser i'm not chasing after anyone
Just because i'm a guy doesn't mean i "hunt" women
>>6140031
>>We call it baby steps to being a full blown faggot.
>I've been a chaser for ten years brother. At this rate, I'm never gonna make it to full blown AIDS.
i feel you there been nine years for me now if i was going to want to fuck dudes and be a full on homo i would already plus my friends would love it most of them are lbg
>>6137751
On /mtfg/ they came up with a word for trannies that only fuck other trannies. They all them transbians.
>>6137930
>only dates sub 24 yo models at age 40
>not good looking
okkkkkkkkkk then...
>>6138132
I don't hate my penis. Speak for yourself sis
>>6142378
Second. Mine is gorgeous. It's not too big, just longer than my cellphone in its case by about an inch, and about my thumb plus pinky. It's perfectly smooth and straight. I see porn with a bunch of ugly cocks and I'm like nah son It's great for getting sucked and not much else. It's more of a fun toy than a fuck tool. I'm a total lesbian lover boy in bed. ;3 my cock is like bonus.
>>6138449
Fuck this annoying little tranny boy posts on every single thread bashing trannys and telling chasers they should want him. Post that weird ass pic of your cock in little boy undies and your hipless legs again faggot
>>6138499
fuck off femboy. Straight guys do not want to date you. Get over it
>>6138648
This stuff is so simple. How did you not learn this stuff in like 8th grade m8
>>6138665
>chill boys
How can you act like a "boy" when you are an adult 20+ male?
>>6142494
Shh, don't question him too much. You will confuse him. This is the femboy delusion.
>>6137751
Some men into trans women identify as "trans-attracted men" and "trans fans." I think both terms are nice, and I would like to meet one such man one day!
>>6142413
>Straight guys
Seriously though, the premise of your thread is that you're attracted to a "subset of men". Those are OP's word's not mine. If so how aren't you at the least bi? You're exactly the same as other gay and bi men.
>>6142494
Well I mean if you're a runt who's voice never really broke cause nasty anorexia episodes, then even before shooting up meds you pretty much weren't ever going to be seen as an adult male.
Chill then if you want, can look female but not give a damn about acting like one or calling yourself one.
>>6137751
My own term is femmesexual, I like chicks and chicks with dicks. which is what all my porn is like too. I've tried looking at twink porn, doesn't float my boat.
I've mostly been with regular woman, banged about 12. 2 trans-woman, one i openly dated for 3 years. and fucked one regular guy, wasn't much into it.
i come from a liberal family, so if i was full homo it wouldn't be an issue.
>>6138112
There's only two reasons to be attracted to trannies. One is that you're a faggot into their dicks, and the other is that you get off on their mental discourse.
You go for trannies over regular women because you have some warped fantasy of saving them and having them be significantly easier to handle than normal women because they are so abused and destroyed by their dysphoria that they will submit to you and become your perfect waifu.
The reality is that trannies are fucking insane and are probably about 15 times more likely to cut your throat in your sleep and cheat on you than a regular woman would be likely to.
They are not fun. They are literally the result of taking a man and starving his brain of testosterone. That does not magically create some hyper feminine pseudo-woman. It creates a volatile breeding ground for full blown fucking psychosis you retard.
All tranny chasers are fucking retarded LMAO
>>6137751
Why do you even bother dating western trannies? They're ugly sjws and a waste of space. At least easterb girls are proud of being superior women. Western trannies are just mutilated mentally ill men.
>>6149692
pretty much, western trans girls are a waste honestly would only date an american trans girl if she's Hispanic/latina
>>6138608
>dominant
>sucking cock
lol... right....
>>6138608
Sooo... I'm curious about this, Carth: do you suck the D? Or play with it? No judgement.
Smh
>>6137751
Fruit Loops
Attracted to a special kind of fruit and there's a loophole to reaching it
>>6137751
who tf asked
>>6149069
>There's only two reasons to be attracted to trannies
False dichotomy
>You go for trannies over regular women
Implying I go for trans over cis girls
K :^)
>you have some warped fantasy
Projection
>The reality is that trannies are fucking insane
Fairly accurate in my experience
>They are not fun
Subjective
>It creates a volatile breeding ground for full blown fucking psychosis
[citation needed]
Could just be that gender dysphoria has common comorbidities like, BPD, depression, anxiety, autism, etc, etc. You are aware of the stressor-diathesis model arent you anon?
>All tranny chasers are fucking retarded LMAO
I am tru Chaser tho, I dont feel I control my attraction for trans girls in any meaningful way other than I could just repress it if I wanted to, but why would I do that? I am not some ugly neckbeard that goes after trans girls because he cant get any cis girls, or is a closeted gay or bi or whatever. I dont wake up in the morning and say "well today I will be attracted to trans girls". I just know that I am and I have been since close to when I first started masturbating. Also I lift at the gym with plenty of gay/bi guys and if I wanted to sleep with dudes I could, and I dont want to, not interested at all, not even slightly.
Who else truChaser here? (:
>>6150167
>Carth: do you suck the D?
No I dont suck dick. Im into fem submissive bottom girls that like to suck dick and get fucked hard, and those types usually arent into getting their dick sucked. Obv if you are in a LTR things are a bit different, and if someone is taking care of you, you should be willing to take care of them.
>Or play with it?
Sometimes. Frotting while making out is kinda hot. I like to see my girls get off, so if she needs me to jerk thats cool, if she wants me to play with her butt while she does the work ok, its whatever im not super needy for the girl dick.
>No judgement
Implying you can judge me :^)
>>6150289
>Smh
Ayy let me wreck dat bp bb girl (:
>>6137751
>subset of men i.e. mtfs.
>men
Very rude. Especially as most of us identify as women. The whole reason we transition is we are women inside, not men. In your interactions with us, don't forget that.
>>6138194
>Now, besides these exceptions, they all have the same basic personality.
LOL
So naive.
>>6152314
>truChaser
Right here. Is this rare? Most guys I see post here seem to be obsessed with cock and/or getting topped, seem to have little to no respect for transgirls and be pretty damn beta overall. No wonder transgirls are suspicious of chasers...
>>6152314
The fiction you create around yourself amuses me.
>>6155345
>The fiction you create around yourself amuses me
>fiction
What did I write that was fiction? My post consisted of opinion and then stated preferences regarding trans girls. My opinion obviously wouldnt be fiction..... are you really prepared to claim that my stated preferences regarding trans girls are fiction? You know I have met trans girls from this board IRL right? Unless you are one of them, how would you even begin to know?
If you are one of them, then go ahead and tell everybody who you are and what I did that was contrary to what I wrote....... Oh wait (You) are just shitposting, because if you knew me you wouldnt be talking nonsense.
(You) (You) (You) (You) (You)
Take all of them that you want, and give one to your mom too for Mother's Day, tell her Carth says hi :^)
>>6155321
Think it was a Freudian slip where he admitted he's gay in denial. Don't take offense from the funny closet case.
