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>be mtf
>date guy
>we are in love and he becomes my bf
>tell him I want to get SRS
>he says he is okay with this
>"you're still the woman I fell in love with. I don't care if you have a penis or not"
>eventually get the surgery
>he says he still loves me but we don't have sex as often as we used to do
>stay together for at least 4 months
>borrow his laptop because I wanted to order some food online really quick
>see his skype
>he's been seeing another mtf behind my back
>she's sent him her dick pics
>pretend to be my bf on his skype to get some info
>she reveals that my bf has been sleeping with her for awhile after I got my surgery and he's planning to leave me

FUCK. I WAS PLANNING TO BE MARRIED TO HIM
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>>6104283
You're kind of dumb for not expecting this from a chaser
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You're better off without him. All the best
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>>6104283
>thinking someone dating a mtf isn't after dick
>thinking you're so special that his sexual preferences would magically change
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>>6104498

I feel ya, but honesty isn't too much to expect.
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>>6104283

Did you find out if she knows about you? Maybe she also has SRS at the back of the mind, and hearing about you, she'll dump him too. Of course, if she has no intention to get SRS she might just laugh in your face.
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>expecting someone going after a mtf with a dick not being a dick
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>>6104310
>>6104536
he really didn't seem like a chaser. Said he didn't care about my dick and sometimes we'd have sex where my dick was in use.

I'm starting to believe that chasers are giving each other tips on how to dupe mtfs into relationships with them...
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>>6104557
>we'd have sex where my dick was in use.
that's the only reason he wanted to be in a relationship with you tbqh
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>>6104557
They even do that on here, lol
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>>6104283
The world of trangenderism seems like a hellish dumpster fire, I don't plan on ever associating with a tranny ever.
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>>6104498
This. The only guys who are cool with SRS are the ones who won't date you while you're pre-op.
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this is usually why people insist that chasers are a bad idea, but everyone insist that as long as he wants to fuck you you should be grateful.
still, getting married? that's pretty silly unless you really want that tax cut or were considering adopting (which now would look like a pretty bad idea). Love doesn't last forever, take your expectations lower, learn to be happy by yourself before depending on others and other mature shit you should had been taught at some point.
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>>6104604
>this is usually why people insist that chasers are a bad idea, but everyone insist that as long as he wants to fuck you you should be grateful.

again, i have to say that I really did not get any kind of chaser vibes from him. He hid his power levels really well. When we had sex, it was 50/50 on not using my dick and other times using my dick. I never suspected him of being a chaser until this blew up in my face.

Now I'm fucked up. I can't ever trust what a guy says ever again. He can promise you the world, he can promise you he loves you but in the end, believing in him and our future was a fraud.
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>>6104632
>believing in him and our future was a fraud.
kek looks like the estrogen has been fucking with your head
pathetic
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>>6104632
Well, the usual rule of thumb is that he wants you to use your dick then he wants your dick. That's why I complained about the "as long as he can't stand being near you you should go steady with him" mentality, that's just low selfesteem and being needy blinding you.

I would recommend avoiding the "I'll never trust anyone again" phase because
>It makes you vulnerable to the next guy who can handle your emotions
>It's a big lie
>If it's not a lie you're changing your life because of a single bad thing that happened around you
>You sound pathetic and petty

Just try to be mature, it's like a muscle that you exercise. Think it through, accept the reality, consider your options (living conditions, use of time, things you can enjoy doing by yourself, friends to share and cry and get mad for a while, just plan the enxt few weeks or month); and calmly talk with him. Something like
>Look, I accidentally saw your skype talk with whatshername and if you wanted out of the relationship you should had just brough it up. It was nice, now it isn't. Let's just cut ties/We can talk again in the future if you want.
Try to cry a lot some time before to get it out of your system and go with acceptance instead of pity.
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>>6104283
>"you're still the woman I fell in love with. I don't care if you have a penis or not"

you fell for the chaser meme!!!

#REKT #SQUARE #chasers_ARE_SMELLY
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>>6104766
>"you're still the woman I fell in love with. I don't care if you have a penis or not, as long as this is all just hypothetical, in which case if it isn't, you better keep your penis"
chazers unite
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>>6104283
This is what happens when you get vag surgery. You become worthless to men. They want either a real female, or a girl with a dick, not a girl with a butchered dick axe wound hole. This is what you get for not realizing that 100% of men who sleep with trannies are not straight and thus are there because you were born a man, making them almost completely there just for the dick.
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>>6104805
/thread
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>>6104283
>dating a guy before SRS
you fucked up senpai, theyh are all chasers
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>>6104716
this is good advice
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>>6104283


kill yourself

your mental illness has gone too far
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>>6104926
>t. chaser
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>>6104283
>mtf thinks it can feel love
Smh
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>>6104283

> she's sent him her dick pics
> dick
> she
> mfw

On a serious note, as a bisexual. If I was dating a guy I truly liked who decided to turn into a woman, I genuinely wouldn't care. I'm a dominant, total top and cock means nothing to me.
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>>6104557
The problem is that you want to be duped. On /mtfg/ there are lots of people that say they don't mind chaser or they attack someone that is against chasers. You love the idea of being straight so much that you don't mind dating a closet homosexual either.
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>>6105084
Are those actual mtfs? I got the impression that a lot of the time it's a chaser false flagging.
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>>6105062
>bisexual
>cock means nothing
Just keep telling yourself that. :^)
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>>6105132
>Are those actual mtfs?
They're actual people in some stage of transition if that's what you mean. Since it's 4chan it's really hard to know why they do it, but maybe some of them enjoy it.
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>>6105132
>>6105084
People can be desperate for love, it's a weakness and can be helped but it's always lingering in your mind. In some cases I'm sure that a short relationship with someone that doesn't have the purest feelings for you can be healthy, the real problem comes when you make long term plans.
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>>6105141

I must be heterosexual then.
There's a Kinsey scale, y'know.
And bisexuality isn't strictly defined as liking male and female genitalia and every aspect of them.

Educate yourself anon :^)
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>>6105162
I haven't browsed mtfg for awhile, but it was my understanding that most of the trips were anti-chaser, but there was one dedicated guy who kept posting #NotAllChasers-type stuff.
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>>6105219
Trips proudly say they're chasers too.
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>>6104604
wow, you sound like a super fucking depressing person.

people can find other people that make them truely happy, there are couples who spend their entire lives with eachother ya know.
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>>6105311
I'm just realistic. Your happiness shouldn't depend on another person, they are jsut a plus if you find them. And finding someone right for you is a matter of luck, you can change that with hard work, so it's better to focus on real goals and apreciate things while they last.

Getting sad because someone else doesn't feel like you want them to feel is childish and you won't find a good relationship if you keep seeing things that aren't there. For me wasting your life like that is truly depressing.
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>>6105336
we all depend on others for happiness, its basic human nature. friends family and partners are all people we depend on to feel happy. Being alone and isolated is a sad depressing existence.
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>>6105214
No, you're a fag if you still love fucking guys.
You can't tell me you don't love cock. You know deep down *INSIDE OF YOU* you know it to be the truth, young bislut.
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>>6105416
In the first post I said she should go to her friends and at no point I say she should give up on anything. Things I do say are:
>Don't expect to complete your life through a boyfriend
>Learn to be happy with things you care about besides being with a particular person
>Don't linger on failed expectations
>Accept others for who they are and find someone who works with you instead of inserting what you want on others.

I don't want to be mean to OP and I don't know her life, but usually you can tell when someone lost their interest in you much before reaching that stage. Unless he completely changed his mind or this is a missunderstanding, I'd say that she could had noticed his interests if she hadn't been dating the person in her head imposed over some guy.

If you calm down, pay attention to other people , and do your best to deal with your situation in a reassonable way; life is much happier and easier.
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>>6105482
>there will never be a porn parody of star wars that makes the force to be sexuality
>it will always be repeating scenes and adding sex
so little creativity.
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>>6105538
?????? WhAT
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>>6104805
This angry ass femboy is literally in every thread
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>>6105214
Fuck off you faggot femboy. I can spot your posts a mile away
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>>6104283
>trusting men
>falling in love
fools
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>>6105558
porn parodies just go over the same plot adding sex scenes. i want one that makes sex key elements of the plot by switching them for parts of the original.
like a green lantern porn parody where he gets his power from arousal.
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>>6107516

>tfw wanted to be that girl that he would come home to more and more as I read this
>tfw you'll never convince a guy he's worthy of love
>tfw you'll never improve his outlook on life

:(
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Now I'm all worried my bf is gonna end up the same.
He's told me that he'll still love me regardless of what I do but now idk so much. He acts really in love with me but I guess it could all be bullshit.
The other night I caved in and let him suck on my dick for the first (and last) time and now I strongly regret it and almost just want to kill myself desu. I started crying immediately afterwards and he tried to comfort me and told me it was okay. But idk if it is, I knew I should have waited until I had SRS to have a serious relationship.
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>>6107745
relationships end, at some point or another. enjoy the trip and try to be cool when one of you has a change of heart.
worrying too much will just speed up the process.
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>>6104591
I'd date pre or post if we click. Not much of a sexual person anyways.
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If you still can, then I'd warn her to stay away from this individual since it sounds like he'll only use her.
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>>6104651
But she's not wrong?
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>>6107637
tfw :(
It's all that maternal shit
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>>6104283
>Implying that's true.
>Implying this is not just fan fiction made by chasers and transbians that don't want MtF girls to sort their junk out.
>Implying losing a dick matters to the point of making someone leave you.

Fucking chasers and transbians wanting some of that girlcock to the point of shitposting on this board.
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>>6104805
It may be true that alot of chasers are there because you're born a man, but for some of us it's because we just distrust women. I'd love to fuck a fake vaginas over an ass but it's whatever.
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>>6108521
yeah seriously
its not like id be fucking her anywhere but the ass anyway lmao
i dont give a damn
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>>6104283
I'm so sorry. That's horrible. It's better you found out what a cunt he is now. You're so much better off without him.
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>>6107745
>let him suck on my dick

This is what's known as a faggot.

It's funny because gay men are all narcissistic, degenerate freaks and straight men are the only faithful and honest men but they'll have nothing to do with you.
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>>6108527
Being with someone who wants to be a woman and identifies like one because you don't like women is still pretty bad for their well being.
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>>6108721
>having a boyfriend while you're pre-op
>"he's straight cause I'm a real gril REEEEE"
If anyone actually thinks this, they're beyond delusional. Straight men don't want to frot and suck dick.
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>tfw repressed so i get to avoid all this bullshit

and they told me i was wrong
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>>6110115

OP may have her heartbroken now, but you'll be the one heartbroken killing yourself with regret when you're an old man in an old folk's home waiting for your death. Going to regret never taking a dick in your youth. Going to regret never having a guy treat you like a girl and with kindness. Going to regret never being made to feel special.
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>>6110393
>implying she's not regretting those already
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If you're still around OP, listen to this advice
>>6104716
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having a penis is ok
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>>6105336
>Getting sad because someone else doesn't feel like you want them to feel is childish
It's not childish, it's a normal human feeling.
What determines your maturity is how you deal with that emotion.
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>>6110393
Not everyone passes, not everyone will get their bf.

The human mind can be conditioned to belive anything if it hits the subconscious enough (tulpas, wonderlands, body disphoria), thankfully i'm just a bi cis man with agp, and that's all i need to be.
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>>6107759
This is good advice, exactly what I was going to say.

>>6109932
Sounds like a hilarious trainwreck tbqh
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>>6104805
/thread

A transwoman after srs is probably the least desirable human on the planet.

Men want either women, other men, or if they have a fetish a chick with a dick.

Women want men, or other women.(And women don't really have fetishes other than light bdsm, so they don't really care for ftms sexually)

but women's sexuality (especially straight women's) is so malleable due to their low sex drives and heightened emotions that straight ftms don't usually have problems. Even gay ftms can usually find someone, because at least their vagina is real and working
Transbians, are hit and miss, mostly because lesbians are cunts, but they can still usually find someone, because women are so forgiving sexually due to women prioritizing strong lifelong partners to entertain them, protect them, and give them money, over sex.

Where as its 100% about sex for men, and no one desires sex with a neovag
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>>6104557
Anon, you have to realize that the penis is sometimes the attraction, as well as your body in physical attraction. SRS made you unattractive to him. I don't really think this is majority opinion here but in reality SRS does not leave you with a good looking 'vagina'. If I was a MTF I would just keep my penis until actual genital replacement surgery was available, if it ever happened in my lifetime. I have fucked a SRS vagina, and it is not the same as a real vagina in feeling or in usage. The penis is where it is for a lot of partners who are in relationships with MTFs. I'm sorry he's a cheater but you have to realize the attraction of your body is the leading component in sex.
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>>6110539
[citation needed]
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>>6110567
Logical/10. Take notes mtf ladies.
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>>6110468
not really, you're changing the world around you to be what you want and disliking that it isn't. if you get shcoked each time things don't go the way you imagine them to be your life will be a needless rollercoster.
If you're not accepting others for what they are you're not having real relationships. And that's just sad.

>>6110496
not too hilarious because no one gets to see it when it crashes, it's jsut friends having to deal with the remains.

>>6110567
you have to at least get orchi to stop taking as much pills or injections, it adds years to your life. if you're gonna take out your balls you might as well make it look like a fake vagina than having a fake penis.
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>she
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>>6104632
Are you fucking kidding me?
You are a guy. You should know how we think.
You are just a little fuck toy for us.
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>>6104283
I'm so sorry this happened to you, OP. You are beautiful and deserving of love. There are people out there who will love you for you.
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>>6110584
what kind of citation would you like? a mayoclinic article on why men don't want to fuck non genitalia?
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>>6110673
Maybe she isn't beautiful and/or doesn't deserve love. Not everyone is great.
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>>6104557
>He really didn't seem
You may as well just stop right there, we all know what the problem is.

Seeming doesn't mean being.
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>>6110720
EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY AND EVERYONE GETS A VALENTINE CARD ANON
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>>6110539
> women don't have fetishes
> women
> not being into the freakiest goddamn shit

This is actually a reasonable misconception, considering how incredibly good most women are at hidng shit.

But rest assured, women are in to some craaaaazy shit, speaking from experience. I mean, shit, one of the first women I ever fucked asked me to fist her the night we met. Another of my fuckbuds owns one of those ovipositor dicks. And some of the finest interspecies erotica is written by women.
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>>6110781
that's great news actually
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>>6110720
> she
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>>6110817
you weren't aware that most of the weirdest fanart and fanfics are made by women?
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>>6105416
>we all depend on others for happiness

It's an endorphin rush due to socialization

true happiness is learning to be content with yourself and taking what you can get. that's the only sustainable strategy. codependency is a recipe for failure.
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>>6110781
men don't understand female sexuality because

1. they don't care about women
2. they don't care about women's sexuality
3. they don't care about women's pleasure
4. they don't want to
so it's pretty understandable most men expect women to be asexual genderless dullbots who the only time they got a hypothetical boner is when they shit out a child for the said men

i mean just notice how historically penis was always more studied than clitoris and how parts of female reproductive system were always treated as something straight out of satan's workshop but luckily things are changing for the better in this regard

and i am not even a feminist but the various discrepancies between sexes/common misconceptions still shoved down our throats bring out the angry bulldyke in me
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>>6110885
Nah, you can't be fully happy in a completely isolated state. You need others to improve your life and create a world around you.
The problem is when people think that the only possible happiness comes from others, or that you don't need to do anything yourself if you can have someone close to you.
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>>6110892
Not true senpai, I would like to know more about women's sexuality, but they never talk about it at all, which is reasonable because they are afraid of me spreading out their shit. But it's not like I don't care about their sexuality or pleasure, please, stop spreading this meme.
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>>6110894
>You need others to improve your life and create a world around you.

life is more than other people
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>>6110923
did you just read a random line from my post?
You live in a world that was made by others, the things you love were affected by others. There is no way to ONLY be happy through yourself, just as there is no way to only be happy through others. You need both in your own personal ratio.
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>>6110892
I like you
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>>6110920
>b-b-but not all men
>implying she means literally every single man ever instead of a concerning majority

Something tells me that if you actually did those things, you'd realize it doesn't apply to you and move on instead of twisting the message around and making whiny protest posts that everyone's heard a dozen times already. Please never post on the internet again.
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>>6110920
why do you feel like the only way you can learn is by talking about it with them? fucking take some initiative and google it. that's why it's obvious you don't really care: you aren't willing to learn on your own.
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>>6110920
>I would like to know more about women's sexuality
hey more power to you dude
but - and this may sound like another feminist cliche - the society's perception of sexually active women or women who express their sexuality openly not being much positive might have something to do with it? idk

anyway, here's some fun DYK for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnal_clitoral_tumescence
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>>6108512
uhh, yes it is delusional. muh pure love forever and ever and get married and be in love and have children and love forever and ever!!
delusional and sickening
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>>6110539
There are women chasers, they're rare, but the attraction towards dickgirls is not exclusive to men
Although female chasers get some sort of guilt-free treatment for having preferences, I assure you I'm into MtFs solely for the fact they're hybrids and feminine dickbearers. I find femboys and MtFs equally attractive because it fits in the same narrative. I'd never date a post-op tranny because in that case I'd probably settle for an actual women. It's that simple.
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>>6110969
>yeah, let's let that anon spread bitter and objectively wrong opinions! This will surely improve relationships

>>6110989
This helps, but everyone is different and you can't really know about a certain person's preferences if you don't talk directly to them about it. Communication is an important part of a relationship, anon.

>>6111001
Exactly, that's what I meant with the "afraid of me spreading their shit" bit. Also, thank you for that information, didn't know that.
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>>6111024
so my original analysis was correct?
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>>6111124
You stated women had no fetishes and were solely into men\women, so I replied by saying there are definitely females who are into dickgirls solely for the fetishist aspect, me being one of those
It is correct for the most part, you just got one thing wrong and that's the fact women can't be into MtF for the kink cock presence and nothing emotionally related
They might be fewer than men but not completely impossible
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>>6104283
>FUCK. I WAS PLANNING TO BE MARRIED TO HIM

OP it's not to late to trap him.
Next them you fuck, poke a hole in the condom.
Get pregnant and you've got him for life!
You go girl!
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>>6111155
fair enough
i guess straight women are still not into cunt boys though
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>>6111024
Female chasers tend to be invisible because they are often more covert and sublimely subtle when it comes to approaching that mythical dickgirl they want to tap, pretty simple. Also no one would suspect one to be nothing more than a "supportive friend" while a male chaser doing the same would immediately raise suspicion.

Female chasers just know how to chase better tbqh.

>>6111193
Dykes are. That's why they chase unpassable/pre-HRT trans men tbqh.
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>>6111024
So you're just in it for the dick?
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>>6111024
So the fact that barely any mtfs will be down to actually fuck you doesn't bother you?
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>>6104805
Ya' done goof'ed OP. At least you got what you wanted.
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>>6111292
Yes, because I get off to the idea of a feminized man who's still clearly a man when naked
>>6111276
No, not a bit, I don't want to be fucked, I want to fuck them, strap-on or dildo I don't care
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Degeneracy will only attract more degeneracy.

You thought you could have a normal life being who you are?
Don't make me laugh. Normal people wouldn't put up with someone like you, someone who not only didn't accept himself and on top of it, changed who he was.

You could've just accepted that you are a homosexual, and there's nothing wrong with that, but no, you went ahead and butchered the great person you were, just to become that.

What a waste, Anon.
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>>6111534
Oh, huh. Interesting. I sort of wish futas were real, but because I love the female form AND dicks, but a MtF will never be the same. I guess it's the same only flipped on its head.
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>>6114772
For me it's not much about loving dicks per se, but more of a paraphilic obsession with feminized men and dominating them, and I feel sorry for all the trannies out there but I can't see them as actual women, to me it will always be a femguy
I know it's creepy but you don't get to choose your perversions
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>>6114799
>For me it's not much about loving dicks per se
That's what I meant about it being flipped on its head. Our interests are the inverse of each other. At least that's how it feels to me. Like, I am all about dicks, in a way that confused and distressed me for a long time. But I have no interest in the rest of the male form, really.
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>>6114846
Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding then, I have a hard time working out figures of speech really
So basically for you is about the dick in a physical way and for me in a mental way where it's a symbol of something that turns me on
I have no interest in the male form either, I'm actually turned off by "manly men" because I don't see them as a sexual object, I see them as competition
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>>6108527
>but for some of us it's because we just distrust women
That makes no sense.
Firstly it's insulting to transwomen because you're outright saying you're only dating them because they're not "real women."
But even if you are trying to avoid womanly characteristics in your partner, going after someone who is actively trying to present as a woman is a terrible idea. They're likely to push even more towards behaving in stereotypically feminine ways so that they'll be perceived as the gender that they identify as.
Ciswomen are much more likely to be chill about that. Or just date a dude, dude.
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>>6110393
>Going to regret never being made to feel special.
Being a woman isn't the only way to experience love. You know that, right?

Are conceptions of masculinity so limited today that the very idea of being treated softly and kindly by a lover are only available if you change gender? We have wrought this hell, it's time to burn in it.
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>>6114930
People with very little social interaction think that a boy/girlfriend is the only way to complete a lot of things you should get from close friends and family. A partner and/or pot. I blame TV.
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>>6116655
>I blame TV
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>>6116670
I blame TV for everything, like making me miss the bus. Deal with it.
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>>6116701
>I blame /tv/
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>>6116730
oh, oh, I'm sorry, let me correct myself.
I blame the tv AND /tv/ for everyhting.
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>>6104805
Is there anything good about being trans?
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