Can't wake up edition
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Previous thread >>6021897
>>6022844
>pizza
[aggressive transgirl noises]
>>6022844
>pizza
I can hear yume being triggered rn
>>6022849
It's way past your bedtime young lady
i dont want pizza
i just want hugs
>>6022849
>pizza
indeed this
>>6022851
I KNOW
i was gonna be in bed already but i realized i forgot my mones so i have to let the estrogen do its thing in my mouth and then i can finally go brush my teeth and pass out
>>6022851
Don't talk to me or my daughter ever again.
>>6022854
I'm not. It's a literal question. How the actual fuck would I know that it's anyone related to you?
pharf
>>6022858
MOM GO TO BED
>>6022852
>tfw no isla hugs
What are you listening to mtfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3z_E4fRGnY
>>6022865
A recording of some classical violin piece transcribed to flutes because I have to submit a mix of it in 9 hours for a class
I had two weeks to do this and I didn't even download the files until tonight why do I do this to myself
>>6022861
How dare you speak to your mom in such a way little Grace.
>>6022864
I said don't speak to me or my daughter EVER AGAIN!
>>6022866
Hope you sleep well!
>>6022865
Silence
And the air moving outside
>>6022866
>tfw not cuddling with isla to sleep
>>6022868
What class?
What needs to be done? That doesn't sound too hard but perhaps I missed something
>>6022864
Truly, this is the secret to passing
>Woah back off she's my daughter
Hey now there's room to share, I certainly have enough mommy issues to handle having 2 moms >.>
>>6022869
I'm sorry I'm just worried about your health. I'll get the melatonin and tuck you in okay?
>>6022859
How would you not? Look I get that you're new but just be aware we don't tolerate the kind of harassment you're putting out right now, quit the problematic shit or the community WILL take action
>>6022860
:]
>>6022870
I literally just told you not to talk to my wife's son ever again and here you go doing it, is this fucking funny to you punk?
>>6022879
This daughter I have raised. Such attitudes. Such rebellion. Where did I go wrong!?
huh, all these late night muricans.
i'm going to visit the half of my family that hasn't kicked me out of the fold (yet) tomorrow.
that means getting to see my sister again and hope she doesn't trigger me too much :^) for basically being just like me, except anatomically correct
>>6022878
Just some recording/mixing classes I'm taking at my local community college
The professor is specifically grading us on the stereo image, use of reverb to create a space, and how we deal with the bleed from recording two flutes at once right next to each other because nobody thought to use the iso booth. I've been working on it for 2-3 hours now. Mercifully, it's only two minutes long so I don't have to spend years editing out breathes.
It just feels agonizing because I'm tired
night everyone
>>6022892
clap moar
>>6022894
nini biiirdyyyy
>>6022886
YOU JUST DONT GET IT MOM
>>6022894
sleep tight birdy-kun, don't stub your toe on your way to bed after you turn out the lights
>>6022896
I AM
AN
AMERICAN
that's a term used by racists
Wanna know how to immediately piss off anythread on 4chan? Come in and immediately, saying nothing else, just comment on the uncomfortably high ratio of white to non white posters in the thread
>>6022904
trying too hard.
>>6022894
Goodnight bae<3 <3
>>6022903
aha see I'm a matchmaker I totally planned this all along!!
>>6022904
>take any normal picture
>add one of my rainbow socks or armwarmers
>(You)s roll in
Why the fuck do people feel the need to say goodnight in the threads? Do they think they matter or something? Nobody cares you fucking dumb attention whores
>>6022907
t. attentionwhore
night guys
>>6022907
Night kitten~
>tfw ur the ugly newfag on /mtfg/
>>6022898
Go to bed young lady! When you're posting under my edition you go by my rules! DONT YOU EAT ANOTHER BITE OF THAT PIZZA!
>>6022903
I'm too tired to be flirted with!
well indeed i do wish i had a vagina
ok goodnight
>>6022914
iktf
>>6022915
Well then we can skip the flirting and go right to the cuddling in bed, I'm pretty tired too~
>>6022908
I'm a citizen of the world
>>6022904
How do we stop the white washing of mtfg?
>>6022912
Do NOT call me that or I will start crying.
>>6022914
I told you not to talk to my wife's son you fucking bitch, this is the fate you chose.
>>6022916
goodnight :3
>>6022917
Because telling people goodnight is stupid as fuck and moronic, who cares? This isn't a community this is a training ground. The weak should fear the strong
>>6022915
Gosh fine. Since bird's going to bed I don't have a reason to be up anyway, goodnight everyone.
>>6022917
It's the thing on my hand.
>>6022920
I think you like being called kitten desu.
>>6022914
>implying there's only one ugly newfag on /mtfg/
this general rotates out passers for ugly newfags like LBJ rotated out experienced units for fresh-out-of-basic n00bs in 'nam.
>>6022920
kekito i would like to see your passport allow you to do that and not end up in a country where you'd be killed. i acknowledge the existence of other cultures, doesn't mean we have to be butting shoulders and it doesn't mean i need to claim citizenship of any place other than that which i live in.
>>6022923
Good. Now me and new mom >>6022919 are going to go to bed too. Ignore any noises you might here. They're nothing.
>>6022928
yeah I probably can't pass for shit.
>>6022928
Are you a fucking racist? Are you kidding me?
People like you make me sick fucking bigot.
>>6022925
Damn who ruined the fun? anon flirting with you was enjoyable.
>Tfw I might be detransitioning
I.... I feel nothing
I don't even know if this is the right decision
I know for a FACT that I'd be happier if I was a girl, I feel like I was meant to be born as one.... but maybe being a guy is livable? I am fairly twinky as-is, perhaps I was only afraid of being something I wouldn't ever be anyway? I can survive as I am now, i just fear for the future.... and I just don't know. I might live happier as a male than as a trans woman, because I'm not sure if I could even ever pass.... People tell me that I pass now but I literally can't believe them
>>6022936
The truth does not fear investigation. You will find out soon enough the true purpose of this general young one
>>6022934
Edgar
Maybe I will flirt with you. But I need Reddit confirmed proof that I find you attractive.
Also being called kitten just makes me feel good and sad so it just cancels each other out
>>6022932
baited too hard lol
it's your bedtime now
[pic related]
>>6022935
Will you be continuing HRT?
>>6022938
>Edgar
Oh God I don't blame you then.
>>6022936
ON my hand, not IN it
i wanted to be lazy and use an old pic but here
http://www.amazon.com/Stretchy-Fingerless-Warmers-womens-rainbow/dp/B0069CP3FU
now you've been edumacated
>>6022929
If I weren't taken I'd give you a serious complaint for not including me.
Goodnight mommies <3
>>6022934
>who ruined the fun
Angie. Then yume.
>>6022940
If I detransitioned? No.
I'd just become a (slightly) strong twink like my identical twin probably
>>6022939
I'm getting real sink and tired of this racist crap you're spewing kid. You won't get away with shit like this for much longer whitey. So go ahead, post your nazi erotica images where you jerk off to when your race was actually good. Too bad you lost, and we won.
>>6022942
Woah this shit is retarded
>>6022947
>inb4 oddish already owns a pair or is buying some now
>>6022946
hey yume
you dropped your badge
>>6022947
Isn't it? I only have them because it's like the meme trap thing to do and guys like it.
>>6022951
Are you calling me a fucking Jew? As an insult? In twenty fucking sixteen?
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
>>6022955
Specifically a homosexual jew, they are calling you.
>>6022956
What did I say about talking to me? Learn your place
>>6022942
>>6022953
So lewd. What happened to the pure daughter I raised? Is it this new guy you're seeing? He's bad news I tells ya!
BED!
>>6022952
The gag will help. Mostly.
>>6022955
but yume,
you know this current year is important because we've progressed so much!
we've literally evolved from the uncultured untermensch we were 70 years ago, we are superior in every way to our grandparents
>>6022950
The only thing like this at all that i have is a pair of grey wool knit knee socks. V. comfy.
>>6022957
You said no flirting, and I am not flirting with you. Calm the fuck down, okasan.
>>6022943
Sorry that I'm not comfortable with people who treat their friends like shit
>>6022953
I have a pair of rainbow thigh-highs for this exact reason lol
>>6022963
You definitely don't want that one flirting with you yume. Don't know if it spoils it for you but she looks like sheen but worse.
>>6022964
But I'm not jewish ;_;
>>6022964
Just saying it's not ok to treat your friends like shit.
Why have friends in the first place then?
>>6022969
How is it shoddy? She posted her tumblr photo album yesterday and it made me throw up.
>>6022958
Back damn you. I have on good authority that shes taking things slowly.
>>6022958
I'm sure it will
You could tie me up to make sure I don't move and make noise that way too~
But for now I really must be heading to bed, I'll talk to you again other mommy
>>6022973
K, sorry
nini
ilu
goodnight mladies
>>6022973
I got burned? It's angie. I mean, do i even have to say anything
>>6022974
Youre taking things too seriously anon. My science stuff is sound and it based off things.
>>6022982
>implying angie is the only one holding that sentiment towards you
>>6022985
You are a literal hon. Don't think people have forgotten that sickening garbage you were posting last year.
>>6022982
I'm not the one who treats their friends like shit especially those that housed me when the chips were down
>>6022975
Do I come into your threads and tell you how to raise your daughter? I dont think so!
>>6022976
Are you butt posting anon? Anyway I guess I'll actually go to bed too.
>>6022986
All the people who hold that sentiment against me are either misinformed or willfully wrong.
>>6022961
>taking anything Yume says seriously
>>6022993
Yeah I'm sure we are Jade
>>6022935
hrt isn't that bad
>>6022993
surely no one can be this autistic and arrogant right? right?
>>6022999
mate these are no longer swollen nipples and are now "small breasts" and I'm rapidly approaching the point of no return w/o surgery
roll call: how many of you wear pantsu?
>anonymous has any opinion at all
>in mtfg
Nice and irrelevant, just like you like it.
>>6022974
>made me throw up
I can second this, it was extremely cringe worthy but not as bad as the poly catgirl stuff.
But anywayyy what kind of shitty things are happening in your lives mtfg? Anything bad enough to make other mtfg people's lives seem bearable in comparison ?
>>6023001
gyno isn't that bad =P
>>6023005
>ignoring the fights you had with kari
>>6023008
If I was detransitioning why would I continue HRT though
That's the thing, I look good as a dude. Like, real good. And I don't feel confident that I'll transition well, not at all. So I need to choose between being a hot twink or a possibly very ugly girl and I'm not sure which I'd be happeir as
>>6023007
My dog took and ate the ziploc bag of peanuts from my room because I wasn't watching her
>>6023010
staying in between has its benefits. sure, people will judge.
>>6023012
>it has its benefits
like..... what?
If I stay in between then I'll neither be a hot dude nor an ugly chick, the worst of both worlds.
>>6023010
Do you think HRT has made you feel better, or not really?
>>6023016
I'm gonna go into this non binary nonsense and say about the general populace and how integration is important but I'm quite respected and trusted and haven't had the most usual of up bringings, so whatever works for you just make sure you're mentally well and happy =]
>>6023018
so shes a typical nigger?
>>6023017
Its made me pee a lot, nipples itch like mad. Mentally feel great.
Not aimed at me, but ah well.
>>6023016
>I can't be happy unless I look like an anime
Kill yourself
http://www.animemaru.com/scientists-find-that-running-like-naruto-actually-faster/
>>6023029
its not like Naruto, keeping your head low and arms straight back gives you the least wind resistance.
>>6023004
You were whoring yourself out for like 5$ while posting your disgusting middle aged hon man face
>>6023020
You are a wise sage Oryx. A diamond in the rough. The world could use more of you and your random figure posting images.
>>6023022
Pretty much from what I can gather of the situation, though I admittedly don't know all the facts just what's been posted here
hey friends i have a question about my medication situation.
back story, i was supposed to go stay with my bf in london for a few weeks. well it turns out he is flying me to paris for two weeks, then we are going to amsterdam after that, and then staying in london for two months then flying back to las vegas together.
i'm going to be away from home in foreign countries for 3 months. how do i get three months worth of hormones at once from my doctor? if i just ask will she give me a script for that much? will i have to go through some arduous process in order to get it filled out in a foreign country? will i even be allowed to take the pills through customs if i get that much?
im freaking the FUC k out guys please help
>>6023020
Nobody respects you. You are a genuine autist not just the 4chan kind.
>>6023036
Your doctor should be willing to prescribe a 3-months dose if you tell her that you will be traveling, I think. It wouldn't hurt to ask, at least.
>>6023017
It definitely made me hopeful that my body would change to make me a qt girl. After about 4 months I panicked that I was making the wrong decision kind of like I am now and stopped taking the meds for a month and a half, then I decided to try it again and now here I am
this is me now
unsee.
cc/repagozu/
>>6023020
the issue is that I do not want to be nonbinary. I definitely feel like I should be female...... but
the question is, will my quality of life improve if I transition, or degrade because of all the downsides?
>>6023028
Not "like anime" but
my shoulders are xbox heug, my hips are narrow, and I'm 5'8. see attached photo.
>>6023036
Get 3 month script that's the usual limit, then you need to call insurance and get them to override the pharmacy distribution limit
>>6023040
You are a rapist
>>6023040
Holy shit, that censor box, dude your gt is so big...
With that said it seems your body could become cute girl
So I've started burning people in preparation for killing myself. They'll all forget about me in no time. And I can kill myself in peace. I already tried to convince my partner to kill themselves when they were suicidal so I could. So it's pretty clear I'm a fucking horrible person and should die.
>>6023047
> I already tried to convince my partner to kill themselves when they were suicidal
bruh
>>6023040
From that photo I think you have a very good chance of both passing and being attractive.
i think i'm trans
but also i can't be bothered?
it's like everything else. i try for a while and i do okay for a while and it feels good and then i just feel overwhelmed by how much there is to do, i can't keep up with the maintenance, it's like the hedonic treadmill, you know? i get some clothes and do some makeup and look in the mirror and feel better than usual, but next time it's like, ugh, my face shape, and my height, and my shoulders, and body hair is a bitch, and i live at home so where do i keep my wardrobe, and how do i even explain to everyone, and there's been like two people in my group who came out as trans and became the shitty kind of sjw and they've fucked it up because i *like* my friends, why should i have to give them up, but i'm scared they won't be ok with it now, even though they would have been before. i don't know.
i'm 20 and people assume i'm like 25, i've got acne scarring, i got sun as a kid so my skin is not good even aside from that, i can't maintain skincare stuff either. being a guy is just less work.
i've been diagnosed with adhd recently, but i don't know if that's it. like surely if i was really a girl it'd matter enough to me for me to do more about it?
sorry for venting.
>>6023039
ok thanks i will call her tomorrow i guess
>>6023041
i guess i just got lucky. i don't really think i pass but i'm cute in a kind of andro way i think and my bf/daddy is always talking about how cute i am and how much he likes me and all that. he's in the cyber security/forensics business or something like that and makes a lot of money.
i never really was that lonely i don't think.
>>6023043
i'm 22 years old and my mom/stepdad still do all my insurance stuff for me... i have never had to deal with that stuff ever. will there be any information related to my account or coverage that i would need in order to get them to do this?
>>6023048
>impossible to tuck and random boners are embarrassing as fuc
Just cut it off, make a mold first, like damn... I would buy a dildo of that dick...
>>6023033
=]
>>6023037
we talking about 4chan or irl, anon-kun?
>>6023040
aaah shit Nepeta. Anyways, what is your quality of life right now? My tutor says mine can improve, I just need to research and get qualifications or whatever but otherwise I'm a charming person who makes good conversation and has a lot to draw on from life. I look androgynous but it makes me all the more interesting =]
>>6023036
should have planned ahead incase... best of luck. but customs wouldn't be an issue, I've brought like 6 months worth just to test and see if they'd say anything, but probably just luck
>>6023051
Need my guilt free fix
>>6023040
You need to start doing vacuums while working out or just throughout the day to help eventually form into a more feminine waistline.
>>>/fit/36747461
>>6023056
>information related to my account
You'll need your account number and plan type, if you have your insurance card you'll be fine. and the location you want to pick up the prescription
>>6023056
All I know is the last time I remember you posting you were freaking out because you didnt pass and your friends were getting divorced and you were super worried about ending up completely alone. And now you are this. I repeat: How the fuck.
>>6023058
see this is one of the reasons I'm considering not transitioning, I'm not sure if my quality of life would improve, being attractive has all kinds of perks
>>6023061
>Recommending squats
BAD IDEA
that's how you blow up your core
>>6023059
My quality of life is decent because I've detached from reality and view it as more of a game now than anything
it's kind of nice actually
>>6023060
you wouldn't have guilt from recommending that they kill themselves?
>3:30AM
goodnight, see you tomorrow
>>6023068
I'll take trappy chans advice, who looks like a fucking cis girl, over yours.
>>6023068
Ya but if you're an attractive guy you'll probably be an attractive girl so....
>>6023068
I do. And still have. But then I'd just kill myself knowing they wouldn't have to go through the pain of me doing it
>>6023071
Forgot to link the album she always posts over on /fit/
http://imgur.com/a/SKR7F
>>6023064
ok so normally for a months worth of spiro and e i pay $10, does this mean i will need to pay $30 for the 3 months worth or will i have to pay extra because i'm getting so much at once?
>>6023066
i still don't think i pass. i think i'm basically just a faggy twink looking thing. i'm not sure what i am.
oh and that was my former friend. she got really upset with me because before i was dating my current bf, she kept calling me a whore and slut and stuff because she though i was hitting on a guy she liked THAT WASNT HER HUSBAND SHE WAS MARRIED TO (even though i didn't like the guy at all)
i don't feel bad about that anymore. she is actually a bitch and a shitty person working a dead end job at an insurance place and her marriage is bound to fail, so fuck her.
other than that i was pretty content other than your average amount of dysphoria.
>>6023074
that's 100% genetics, squats are a great way to get a core like a tree trunk
>>6023077
Why
it works for me and I'm happy overall
>>6023078
you're traveling the world on a sugar daddies dollar. you really dont have a high horse to ride here and judge the lives of others.
>>6023078
>does this mean i will need to pay $30 for the 3 months
Yes
>>6023079
Ya I totally do have tree trunk core, I do 100 squats daily...
>>6023079
Whatever you want to believe.
>>6023055
Transition takes a long time anon, there are lots of subtle differences between the genders and it can seem overwhelming at times. Every woman feels inadequate about herself in some regards though, these feelings are also perfectly natural. I can't really help you with the bad looks, living at home, or adhd, but I can say that it would be more abnormal if you didnt feel overwhelmed at times.
>>6023083
Weighted squats. Very different.
>>6023083
I'd kiss that tummy.
>>6023082
>someone wrongly accuses me of something not only really petty and stupid, but also hypocritical
>the same person starts spreading lies about me
>all after pretending to be my 'friend'
>'fuck her'
YUEAH IM TOTALLY ON A HIGH HORSE IM A SUPERIOR MORAL SPECIMEN XDDDD
are you pretending to be stupid or something?
>>6023083
awesome, thanks.
>>6023036
This sounds like a setup for murder. Dont get murdered.
>>6023096
Why waste money flying a tranny to you to kill her, just get OK Craigslist and kill them...
>>6023100
Socio/Psychopaths often have confusing ulterior motives. Maybe he gets off on lavishing unsuspecting fem boys before murdering them?
>>6023101
why are you so upset because i got lucky and letting that influence the way you interpret an event you have no idea about?
>>6023101
>>6023096
also, i lived with him for about a month at my place before, so i'm 100% sure i'm not getting murdered.
i can't guarantee i won't be the victim of an isis attack though, europe is scary.
>>6023083
This reminds me that I need some sexy workout outfits. Too bad most of them are super expensive.
>>6023103
>>6023095
Bring a gun.
>>6023086
yeah. like, i couldn't even finish uni because i can't connect long-term consequences to my actual behaviour. i currently work as a freelance coder because it doesn't feel fair to be an actual employee, because i know i'd do a shit job if there weren't the fact that i don't get paid if i don't do the work. adhd treatment might help.
thanks for responding :)
>>6023107
come on now chump. dont play the youre upset card when youre the one so upset by some random anon. sorry not sorry I insulted your sugar daddy. I hope you are able to please him long enough before he tires of you. lel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPpADsiT4Sc
>tfw repression powering back up again
RELEASE ME, SAVE ME FROM A LIFE OF RIDICULE AND SCRUTINY
>>6023001
And for what it's worth, I've found that having modestly-sized breasts doesn't mean that you can't pass as a boy anymore, even if you're not doing anything to hide them. I'm full-time boymode and and nobody has said a thing or acted at all differently around me even when I just wear a T-shirt, even though my breasts are super obvious. (I thought I was like an A cup or something but I just got out the measuring tape and I'm apparently a C cup now? Whoa, when did that happen? Not that they look particularly big on my wide chest though.) Not telling you what to do or anything, I just figured I'd share my experience.
1 year on E, just got my script for progesterone. What am I in for?
>>6023003
here
>>6023003
Of course.
>>6023140
mood swings, gaimung weight, and boobs, possibly
>tfw first sugar pill today
I'm feeling that energy I lost over a month of spiro come back
Why is pizza so amazing girls?My brother ordered some last night, I didn't finish it tho, and I'm eating the 3 left over slices for breakfast, so gud
>>6023196
lifes greatest mystery
>>6023196
Probably the salt
>>6023193
Congrats Luzzles!
will i ever pass
will i ever have a gf
>>6023118
>apparently im a c cup now?
why is everyone a c cup or higher
this kills the gem
Is Oryx asleep?
>>6023202
signs point to yes
that depends on you, your personality, and luck
gl
>>6023206
Ur asleep >:U
>>6023200
thanks shelly
>>6023208
I'm dead tired and I forgot to ask for her details
>>6023207
thanks gem
>>6023213
no problemo amiga
I don't think transition is for me.
Already as a man. I'm worried about if people are looking at me. I can't handle attention. I worry constantly about other people's opinions of me and how the world perceives me.
Transition will make that 1000 times worse
I'm The only son. I can't make that kind of selfish decision and end the male lineage.
Girls are like an alien species to me. It's hard enough for me to talk to them let alone become one.
It's a stupid idea and would only end in more pain and embarrassment.
I'll alienate the few close friends I have and be an embarrassment to my family.
And maybe I've fixated on this because I'm lonely. "I can't get a girl so I'll become a girl"
Maybe it will all go away when I finally find someone to love. No matter how much it hurts when I realise I want to be in her position when we make love and go out together.
I can't do this. I won't start myself on a path that ruins an already shit life into someone worse
It doesent matter how long I've had these feelings. They are wrong. It's wrong to be like this. To want this.
>>6023205
I'm still not? And if I keep aggressively dieting, I guess I won't be soon ;-;
You've got small company.
ORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYX
>on starvation diet
>cardio regime
>muscles become bigger and more defined
REEEEEEE
WHY WAS I BORN WITH SUCH POWERS
On a scale of 1-10 how weird is it to photoshop your dick off in a lewd pic and put a vagina on? just to see how you're going to look?
>tfw when want boobs to grow more but also terrified of the point at which i wont be able to hide them
how 2 get over fear of going full time?
>>6023223
go full time ;)
>>6023221
its called autism
>>6023222
3.75666666666666666666666
Does anyone have Oryx's contact details?
>>6023223
Move to the part of town where there are lots of non-passing trans girls, also known as The Incubator. You won't stand out and after a while you'll feel more comfortable going other places and stuff too. It just helps for the time you spend your day to day life feel safe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN0QONtfLq4
>>6023225
I'm not joking.
The vascularity has increased majorly
>>6023218
ty for the solidarity, trip
>>6023227
no
>>6023223
wish for it harder, then theyll stop growing entirely
>>6023226
yes
>>6023233
Maybe this was a mistake. Who falls asleep talking to their future boyfriend?
>>6023196
ALL IN THE CHEESE BABY
oops caps
>>6023231
the way youre repressing is def probably autism though, saiyananon
I was the same way except I focused on college and cutting myself
>>6023235
if you specifically call her your future boyfriend you're probably not getting anything
>>6023237
Oh I'm not repressing. Anymore
I'm preparing for hrt. But all it's doing is making me more defined muscles and a lower bodyfat.
I eat literally zero protein now.
>>6023239
I meant me, dummy. She fell asleep on me, the future boyfriend.
Some of you just want to be offended.
>>6023224
this
>>6023240
oh
cool
itll get better when you get on hormones, t just tries its hardest to give you muscles even if theres no place for them
I had some (just barely though) even tho I never worked out or exercised at all
i love you so much for your time and money to pay for the verses of the trans the comfiest clothes we have spending hours and hours cuddling with you and your family in the comfiest clothes we have spending hours and hours ago and I just deal with it and my friends are each on average 43.6 the comfiest clothes we have spending time in the comfiest clothes and I am 110 the comfiest the comfiest the only thing I can do it for the verses the comfiest the comfiest the only thing I can do it for the first time in the streets by the shangri las the best way to kill myself and my friends are each on average of the pack imo to be a girl since i don't know how to drive so i sort of have to rely on the ftm side of the pack imo the best way for me to copy and paste the code to the point where I would never really want to be her gf how to i do it for the verses to the point is that the same thing and im feeling a lot of water in their own poop the best thank you're looking for a girl who likes to be honest with yourself and your family in town and I just deal on a sort out the secret part of the hash and everyone can verify the only thing I can see that I can do it in a giant bed and breakfast in my power I would do everything possible to reduce the risk of the pack imo the only thing that you can walk around without being in constant pain and suffering from a friend of mine and I just deal with it for a while back the only thing is I am going through my email I will have the right ↪ I will have the right now and I don't want you can just give out the secret part of the hash and everyone can see that you are such a good little bit more than a few days i guess what I'm talking about usually affects them in almost no way whatsoever to be a girl who likes to be a girl since i was 5 and realized i was just bored with the first word of my favorite albums when I get the latest version of my life in general I have been working in an effort to make a podt on one of the
>>6023217
I know this feel.
Don't know if I'm gonna take the plunge and start HRT in a few months. Or repress it all for the sake of having no drama in uni
Which will in fact probably make me suicidal
>>6023235
are you in London? =3 c
>>6023246
what
>>6023248
Thank fucking god. Skype?
>>6023241
I honestly just meant if you act like you're already dating and that she wants you to be her boyfriend or whatever, then you're probably getting ahead of yourself
im too tired to give a shit about anything rn
>>6023244
I have no idea what my levels are.
But I think it's very high. Because I have an inability to cry no matter how sad I feel.
Last time I cried was before puberty.
>>6023250
I gave it.. =/
>>6023254
dedas.ret?
>>6023255
gem can we hug each other
>>6023256
yee =3
>>6023258
Alright added. Add me so I can message you before I go to sleep.
>>6023259
Skype isn't on this computer... are you in London? =/
>>6023261
No, I'm sorry. I'm not looking for a quick hook up anyway.
>>6023263
>not hooking up with oryx
you be nice to my friend there
>>6023263
so you wanna rp on skypu? XD
>tfw can't sleep
>>6023257
ok
>>6023265
For now just talk, exchange pics and voice stuff.
does anyone know the rate of successful suicides of trans people? like we all know 41% attempt, but how many trans people actually suceed in killing them selves?
>>6023267
yo tambien familia
>>6023273
>I'm busy, maybe later ;)
Well yeah I'm fucking tired right now. I just wanted to message you before I conked out.
http://strawpoll.me/7368939
>>6023278
Not like my parents know I do either ;)
>>6023277
well whats wrong with messaging here? =3
just wait till I add you later and send you some pics ;)
>>6023278
lol, my mom thinks both are equally bad, but if i'm living as a girl, i should be with guys, since homosexual relationships are wrong. now she just views being trans as a birth defect.
>>6023280
I appreciate that bae. Just know I'm the DEVO guy
>>6023267
actually wait
I can sleep i just had a creepy af nightmare
>>6023278
"Why couldn't you have just been gay?"
>>6023285
I'm just noided rn desu
>>6023283
do u have an
uncontrollable urge
hehe
Hello everyone! What's happening in your life today?
>>6023271
I remember reading somewhere the rate of success is similar to cis women since they try the same kind of methods.
Is it true that HRT will give you cone tits and not normal tits?
>>6023293
recovering from ffs
>>6023290
Yes..why?
>>6023301
Dunno, I think about srs time to time.
>>6023293
I keep waking up scared and confused
>>6023301
Want a fist fight?
>>6023288
Im dreading tomorrow desu
>>6023293
I woke up from a nightmare that I was pulled in playing a videogame, and that every time I played it something about it made me increasingly unhinged, until I was schizo as fuck
It took place over a couple days too
I was only asleep for a few hours
>>6023278
"That's all really confusing, but the important question is, do you like men? Because I am not ready to handle that. Just...don't bring any men home."
>>6023041
oh, =]
Just had my fist session of laser this morning.
>mfw the technician looks like she could be abby's big sister
>>6023293
8hrs of class on ?? hrs of sleep. I woke up at 6PM yesterday. I'm about to try to take a nap before class, after I drop my dog off at daycare.
>>6023314
.__.
>>6023278
my stepdad tried to convince me to make sure i wasn't just gay by going to gay bars and having sex with random men, just to make sure. he then proceeded to tell me about all the gay bars his friend took him to and the rapey leather daddy who was into knifeplay he met.
so that was fun
>>6023298
I've got pretty normal tits I think
>>6023327
Because I woke up at 6 PM because I couldn't sleep the night before for ~no good reason~
hbu
>>6023327
It happened once like most dreams
i was just able to sleep and wake up within the dream, because the dream took place over several days
dreams that do that kinda freak me out
>>6023325
post em
>>6023332
had one a couple days ago and it's honestly the creepiest shit when you start having to do reality checks to make sure you're actually awake
>>6023314
how often do you have to dilate now, and how long post op are you? and why do you buy KY insetead of surgilube?
>>6023335
I can tell when im actually awake though, after the fact
Life only literally felt like I was dreaming when I was alone in college
>>6023336
3 years post op at the end of June. Dilations are weekly and sex can substitute.
As for why KY, why not KY? Any lubricant works, KY is just cheap and easy to find.
>>6023339
>tfw used to dream about having a happy life when I was in an extremely depressed time in my life
>tfw waking up was pure torture
>>6023344
oh i just heard KY is expensive, that's good to know though.
>>6023347
Waking up used to be the worst part of my day
>>6023349
The brand name stuff is probably not as cheap as surgilube, but I also can't just go to most stores and buy surgilube. Convenience trumps cheapest in this case, although KY is still way less expensive than fancy lubes for sex thankfully.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBYJZdIMGIk
>how it feels to browse mtfg when your feeling repressed
>>6023355
whats it like having a vagina?
>>6023358
I really wish I didn't feel envy when I think about people who have vaginas
;_;
>>6023363
do you want a soft squishy hole for a strong bf to touch and impregnate, anon?
post music
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pmfHHLfbjNQ
>>6023355
>tfw
When I started stocking up, I could literally not find any at the pharmacists that are within walking distance.
>>6023366
Yes ;_;
I've watched how they do the surgery since I was a teen.
Most people feel disgust. I feel jealousy. To get rid of my maleness like that. It would be like finally being free
I haven't done my physical training in three and a half weeks and it's such a weird feeling to see my muscle slowly disappear. I want to get rid of muscle in the meantime before HRT but, it's kind of sad to see myself as a small skinny creature . I feel like I am gollum lmao, or some anorexic person
>>6023370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sBtQWWHjec
>>6023358
i'll let you know, in 73 days. :P :D :D :D
>>6023379
Spartan knows this feel all too well
>>6023384
Congratulations! I can see you're already counting the days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDjDWCYcCDQ
This movie scene ;_;
>>6023376
The grass is always greener on the other side.
I think your problems stem from insecurity. You would still be stuck being you, unfortunately.
>tfw no transgirl to kiss before going to work
>>6023358
Day to day: not a lot has changed. I don't have to tuck anymore, and pants fit a little better. I also don't have to fear arousal because no more boners.
In bed: dysphoria is gone. I can actually do what instinct is telling me to do, and I don't have to worry about if something new will cause dysphoria.
On the whole: I guess having a penis was the last thing that felt truly wrong about my body, so following SRS I've at least started to make peace with it a little.
>>6023371
I had the same problem when stocking up, they didn't even have it at the medical store I went to. :(
>>6023392
Actully. I've never felt happier than when I decided to give up trying to be a man and admitted to myself I'm trans
Besides. I've felt this feel for a long time since childhood
>>6023393
M E L B O U R N E
I'd greet you when you come home too
what's going on ?
how is everybody doing today ?
any plans for the weekend ?
I should be asleep, but too much work to do...
>>6023425
Currently riding the seesaw between repression and acceptance
Plain terrified of HRT and plain excited for it.
my voice therapy sessions start out with a group meeting where its like 4 old hons, another younger trans woman who is not presenting, and me. so i always feel kind of uncomfortable because i just do my normal thing and show up in like dresses and makeup and stuff and the other women fawn over me like im something special because i dress like a woman and wear makeup and yesterday the one older person who makes me super uncomfortable and looks like the "i like wearing my wig and my wife's panties" kinda guy would not stop going on about my skirt and complimented me like 3 separate times D:
thanks for listening mtfg
>>6023425
Drinking with friends with money I don't have.
>>6023425
I'm doing good. Putting on makeup, getting ready for an exam, bracing for this evening where I get to eat a salad while everyone else at DnD eats Chinese takeout :(
>>6023445
Oh god. You poor thing.
Would want that on anyone Maddie
cried myself to sleep last night
didnt wana get for work up this morning
idk how i pass but i do, all i see when i look at myself is an ugly dude in girl clothes.
i feel like everyone is always hugboxing me.
starting to feel suicidal again, havnt felt suicidal until i started to transition.
i really want to end it all, and i have come to that conclusion rationally. i started hormones at 19 and my body was already developed by male sex hormones. the damage has been done there are overbearing masculine traits i cannot get rid of. and the dysphoria i feel over them has finally worn me down.
the only thing thats making me hang on is my bf. He is the only source of true happiness in my life, and i dont want to kill myself and put him through that, because i do love him. i dont even know what to do anymore. maybe ill just trudge on until the day i snap and commit suicide.
>>6023448
ui good luck :)
>>6023449
I hope so.
I feel I'm gonna snap back into repression and bury that fear in anger
>>6023293
1 day to go till hormoness yeeeeaaass
browsing 4chan under the desk at work
>>6023482
>1 day to go till hormoness yeeeeaaass
nice! AAs or both?
>>6023482
2 weeks until I can start some AAs
I'll probably explode from repressive rage soon if I don't start on them at least
>>6023486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps0UodUr_pM
JUST WAIT UNTIL I GET MY HANDS ON THOSE ANDROGENS
I just got gendered female in boy mode! Eyebrows make such a big difference~
>>6023496
congrats anon!
Friendly reminder that if your physique isn't like this(ie. slightly androgynous, typical early trabsition, does not pass yet) or more feminine when you reach age 14, it's too late, you can never pass
>>6023500
I haven't even shaved in two days.
I have no idea how it happened but I'll take what I can get.
>>6023445
Sounds terribly irritating.
I can't believe they're group sessions. It makes sense, but... ugh. Now I'm nervous.
Sorry you got awkwardly fawned over. That has to be crazy uncomfortable. And I bet you're too sweet to even ask them to dial it down.
if i don't get my script tomorrow i'm going to go fucking mental, i can picture my doc's face all sympathetic saying while he was willing to, other colleagues convinced him of the safety issues and that maybe if i make an appointment in his next available slot (when i'll have ran out) maybe he'll see where things are then.
thing is i reduced my mones dose so i got enough that i could order again from inhouse and wait for that to arrive but i only tried to get my GP to prescribe me because buying online seems so risky (and expensive) what with the shitty uk post. i wanted reliable and he seemed very helpful at first but if it all proves to be a complete waste of time, i'm going to be very very upset.
i mean he might say 'yeah sure, just like we discussed' but this is the fucking nhs
>>6023503
>*urge to take steroids and become tranny hunter intensifies*
>>6023504
how long have ya been on hrt? that might be the game changer right durrr. im still waiting on my boymode to get a bit more androgenous. I can't really see it but my close friends say I look alot different from the pre hrt days so there's hope yet!
>>6023503
seems legit
can confirm
>>6023472
yeah used to be pretty anxious pre fulltime and later pre mones too
it's normal
just keep working on yourself and don't fall into the "i have mones now so I just gotta wait" trap
>>6023496
congrats
Holy fuck I just realized my appointment is in four days
>>6023508
your doctor aware you're self medding anyway?
>>6023503
>tfw this was my body pre-mones ^-^
>>6023496
Plucking your eyebrows is a huge deal that people underestimate until they get it done.
oh shit. I'm a genius.
I should disguise my spiro as multivitamins and hide them in my room in a mislabeled container
Hahahahaha Im so clever
>>6023521
i ree'd
>>6023507
the sessions only begin in a group, and then we work with individual clinicians. i kind of hate it though. the person who runs it is really old and honnish and obsessed with finding your true self and the group stuff is so we can like, share with each other about our lives and im just like AHHHH IM HERE TO DO THE WORK FUCK OFFF. but its my only option that's anywhere remotely nearby and it was also really cheap bc the therapists are still learning. if you go to a private speech therapist it will be more expensive but less bullshit
>>6023521
hey girl. <3
>>6023503
i don't have neanderthal brow or a chiseled jaw/chin, and i might be tall but i know plenty of tall girls.
i think a lot is achievable but at the end of the day my biggest setback is my shoulder span. can't fix that shit, so even with my face as is i'm going to need facial feminization surgery, on top of voice training, corset training, squats and oats to offset the shoulders...
and even then if i do "pass" it will be as a kind of weird looking girl, always.
>>6023525
i know
based humanity using female pronouns for men like me allowing me to leave the house tho
>>6023536
they have shown themselves very humane, but you have to realize that freaks like you are painful to look at, so you're not being humane yourself by forcing your visage on others.
>>6023535
I should really just give up and let test have full control of my body and become shredded again
This anxiety and fear is fucking me up
>>6023518
yeah, and i've had blood tests to check my levels, i've shown him my meds, looked at the stuff nd equivalents available with the nhs, he just wanted to check with someone from the clinic i'm on the waiting list for, but he wrote to them and heard nothing, he was going to call them, but i haven't heard from him since then.
my liver function is great, my T is rock rottom, my estradiol says i'm pregnant, so i reduced it from 5mg to 2mg but he's said in his letter to the clinic i got cc'd into saying he was hoping to continue my hormone treatment via prescription and that it would be logical to do so to avoid physiological gender confusion and distress, but wanted advice from the clinic. i had an appointment last week when i thought i was getting my script but it proved to be a waste of time and had an anxiety attack there, i'm really hoping for tomorrow idk what i'll do
>>6023536
>tfw fit dudebros pretend they couldn't tell after flirting to let you down gently
Who knew they could be so based
>>6023537
This is why in cancelling hrt.
Shit like this will ruin me if I transition.
At least Test numbs me to all emotion.
>>6023543
woah hey anon, we are only joking.
It's much better to just get a shotgun and give it a kiss if you're gonna stop transitioning.
oops was trip off
>>6023540
i want a script, any script (i would be really lucky to get an NHS script) for my AA. Firmagon ain't cheap.
i'm also still astounded that you, being legit intersex, have this much trouble cutting through the red tape to access treatment.
>>6023543
It's a good feel.
I may yet be able to reclaim it and have my sweet sweet numbness back
>>6023546
Never.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts_WDlgNMoo
>>6023553
dang that's impressive how much are you lifting
i really should hop back on a SERM otherwise i will never attain arvebrink aesthetics
how long do i have to neglect my eyebrows to have a boy mode again?
>>6023556
*SARM
oops
>>6023512
>how long have ya been on hrt?
I'm not on it yet. If all goes well with coming out to my dad, I hope to start by July.
>>6023555
40kg each arm
100 with both
>>6023563
Without taking T? I'm impressed.
Bully anon is mad today
>>6023569
He does have a point about the Austrian Eminem.
>Are you using your brothers ID? This doesnt look like you,
>Your underage arent you?
>Dont try to come here again to buy booze with this.
just give me the god damn beer...
>>6023577
>not being a regular the employees all know
do you even trans?
>>6023563
dyke ;)
>>6023569
>>6023572
>Bully anon is mad today
>>6023586
>>6023554
No. I'm going to end this dysphoria on my terms.
/mtfg/: Then you will die knowing that you failed to become everything truly wanted to be.
Me: I fight for repression, mine and every other man's. I fight for the right to choose our own fate. And if I die, I'll die knowing that I did everything I could to stop you. And I'll die free.
/mtfg/: So be it."
>>6023554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58W1DjQRamw
No. I'm going to end this dysphoria on my terms.
/mtfg/: Then you will die knowing that you failed to become everything truly wanted to be.
Me: I fight for repression, mine and every other man's. I fight for the right to choose our own fate. And if I die, I'll die knowing that I did everything I could to stop you. And I'll die free.
/mtfg/: So be it."
>>6023562
oh wow u must be a real qt to get called she already! ^-^
>>6023563
damn girl you're strong af
>>6023577
>tfw you suddenly get carded all the time for booze
i'm still boymode though so they accept my ID... which says i'm 23 but the photo of me is from when i was 17, so... i dunno
years ago i had some passport control person not recognise me from my angsty 16 year old mugshot.
>>6023600
most of it is still from my youth doing archery and stuff
gotta get dem strong dyke aesthetics
Should I do my eyebrows myself or get them professionaly done? I really have no idea.
>>6023610
iktf. I'm going for a the same asthetic myself since I wanna look like my namesake character. I just wish her didn't take so long to make noticeable changes to the face area .-.
>>6023613
???
You are like, INARGUABLY way bigger than korra in every way.
>>6023613
neat
good luck :3
>>6023548
once a doctor decides a thing in the past, no-one wants to unfuck it, it's a real common thing. plus a lot of my intersex stuff is 'unspecified' due to my medical notes being poorly updated, and medical care being substandard. i'm not chasing it up formally until i have my clinic and script sorted and my trans stuff down, under advice from a therapist i saw last year. it might be unavoidable with my estrogen levels being so mental, they will want to chase that up. on paper officially my T injections were down to 'delayed puberty, urethral malformation and correction as a child, potentially intersex, will follow up' but it never was followed up. i wasn't telling my doc back then i got PMS and i didn't know i was sterile then either.
plus senpai i don't think firmagon is available on the nhs via any trans pathway like lupron is, you'd have to get cancer or something. i want lupron because its available and my shitty cypro pills are literally a stopgap
>>6023605
Because he's extremely autistic. It's actually easy to tell when this anon posts
good morning sunshine sparkles
>>6023627
pics or gtfo
>>6023557
they say get them done every 2-3 weeks
>>6023610
>>6023613
i'm aiming for those aesthetics purely because of some deluded notion that if my bone structure is hidden beneath muscle, people will more readily assume i'm just a bodybuilder on juice, than a tranny.
and i don't have the liberty of using the same gear female bodybuilders like arvebrink are obviously on because i'm damaged by test as it is, which mean i'll have to stick to Ligandrol and Testolone and nothing else.
>>6023622
well, those doctors all sound obtuse af and willfully ignorant. and yeah as for degarelix i know i would have to fluke in a major way to get an NHS script for it, but even a private script would allow me to cut a quarter off the price i'm currently paying for it.
>>6023627
huh, sounds familiar. which youtube tranny says that again? not sanjati umm... joules?
>>6023623
Woah. Rude.
I not even autistic. My mother had me tested :^)
>>6023638
pics of what?
don't feel like taking one rn but here is one from last night
>>6023645
you are living proof that you don't need gynephilia to have autogynephilia
>>6023638
>pics or gtfo
>>6023620
I'm actually not very buff and mostly scrawny. like look at how small (not by girl standards mind you) my arm is. I think my other pic is super misleading
>>6023621
tnx m8 u too
Drinking when you wake up is OK if a friend is in town right?
>>6023577
>still having the spark of life in your eyes needed to be carded
>>6023640
Where do people usually get their eyebrows done? Beauty salons?
Would be look weird as fuck if I went in there in boy mode?
>>6023600
That's what my one friend who I'm out to keeps telling me. But I still have plenty to improve on!
>>6023656
Fug that.
Repression it is.
>>6023611
do *NOT* do them yourself. you can do permanent damage.
get them professionally done
its fun and cheap anyway
>>6023656
ya, salons or any waxing/threading place.
not weird at all, but you'll have to specify you want them as if you're a girl. like, otherwise at best they'll give you feminine shaped and at worse they'll give you feirce looking male model lashes.
>>6023648
wut?
>>6023656
there are many that offer services to "men" too lol
and if a salon is unisex why would they turn down any paying customer?
>>6023613
dont you think you might have a mental problem considering you are a grown man trying to become a cartoon character down to the name?
>>6023652
pic related is a pretty good approximation of korra, or a bit over her musculature, even. Korra is not THAT buff.
does getting your ears pierced hurt? I wanna give it a try at some point but I'm kinda scared tbq
>>6023665
you clearly get off on dressing erotically and fetishising yourself and think that just because you wanna get dicked that you can evade accusations of being AGP
>>6023674
what is wrong with wearing comfy stockings?
does anyone else get really upset / angry when you see somebody who came out really young, who got lots of support and is already passing and enjoying their normal life in their mid-teens?
then you remember your own shitty life full of repression and parents threatening you with all sort of shit because you acted too feminine and now it's too late to pass and enjoy life properly??
maybe I'm just fucked up
>>6023613
>her didn't take so long to make noticeable changes to the face area
hrt really doesn't do thaaat much to face, desu, like, losing/gaining weight is really what changes peoples faces on hrt, imo. hrt overall makes boobs and hips if you're young enough, maybe softer skin too. the physical changes of HRT just really aren't that big. you'll need ffs if you want any kind of drastic facial change.
>>6023677
no I get that, recently I just tried to not let it bother me
>>6023656
Nah. I do it all the time.
>>6023677
can't relate but understand it
>>6023648
I dunno, why do you think kayla has agp just because she likes looking sexy?
>>6023676
nothing, but you should stop posting your nudes all over the internet because that's the pinnacle of agp
>>6023669
I'm not trying to literally become the character friend, I just like the name and asthetic. I don't see how it's a problem to wanna get in shape a bit. I'm not a man tho imma girl same as everyone else here
>>6023671
yeah I stopped lifting entirely, and I just do cardio, legs, and an workouts when i go to the gym now. that stuff is easy, its the diet that's hard
>>6023684
its called the meme train brah all aboard
that being said most of you are a bunch of autistic virgin faggots
>lily and kayla in the thread at the same time
Ugh, I don't want to live in a world with this much strife.
>>6023665
kayla i really can't stop thinking about you
ur beautiful kayla and i really mean that
i know im too far away even if you didn't think I was really creepy but i wish i wasn't
ive known you a little bit for years here and on /cd/ so idk, if anyone was nice to you it might have been me
>>6023673
hardly. there are worse pains out there.
>>6023676
>lace stockings with suspenders
>posts pics of online
>"b-but it's comfy guys"
yeah pull the other one. there is a time and place for things, and unless you actually find a guy mad enough to want to dick you who's into that kind of thing, keep it to yourself.
>>6023684
hold up
>>6023645
nice legs desu
>>6023678
>you'll need ffs if you want any kind of drastic facial change.
Dont try to convince hons they dont need ffs, it will never work.
So much bubble about how they only need HRT and they will pass.
>>6023685
body shaming
>>6023674
who even gives a fuck if anyone else is AGP, seriously. I used to get my panties ruffled saying, 'omg trutrans people are so much better, har har har, death to AGP transbians' then i realized that it really just doesn't fucking matter at all. live and let live, love and let love.
>>6023677
ya, i feel this way all the time, but you gotta remember that like, us getting to transition in late teens or maybe early 20s isn't nearly as bad as leddit hons or susans/lauras monsters... like, its so sad they truly are fucked up and its too late for them to pass. At least starting at this age, with FFS and a ton of voice/body training, we can probably mostly all pass at least some of the time.
>>6023687
>imma girl
BWAHAHAHAHA im sorry this is just hilarious tho
>>6023695
the voice of reason
>>6023678
well from timeline pics i notice a pretty significant difference from like pre hrt to the 2 year mark that's for sure. it doesn't change it per SE, but it does soften it up and femm it by alot. That's more what I'm hoping for, but I think for me that won't start happening to any noticeable effect until like 12 mo in. and yeah I'm planning on getting ffs in a few years
>>6023687
>i'm not a man tho imma girl
>>6023687
>I'm not a man tho imma girl
I would literally call the cops on you if you entered the ladies room
>>6023701
Go away Korea
hey /mtfg/
wuts up u butts?
I'm just back from visiting my grammie up north in potato country
make sure to appreciate your grandparents while they're around, especially accepting ones
>>6023676
They dont speak for all of us
you're radical
>>6023695
>>6023704
look at that i said. lmao
huh? i was saying that she does need FFS, lol, i completely agree. In my opinion HRT just gives boobs/hips and psychological changes, won't really help you pass that much. it'll stop masculinization but past 18 or 19 it doesn't feminize that much i feel.
>>6023688
> autistic virgin faggots
:P
>>6023705
peoples faces get a bit softened i guess, i think its more so weight gain/loss than actual facial changes though >,<
>>6023711
i mean no one you know
just a random person
i don't know how to answer
>>6023707
I never said I passed or even look like a girl, but just bc I'm still early into transition doesn't suddenly make me a man
>>6023714
no one single thing will make you pass or not
its the whole array of things. why not cover all your bases?
>tfw your crotch doesn't slope inwards like it should
>>6023715
yeah I see what ur saying. its like their faces get a bit more fat added to them in key areas (at least that's what i think ur gettin at)
>>6023717
>early into transition
Post a pic of yourself thats recent so we can decide whether you'll pass or not.
>>6023697
1) because kayla annoys me
2) because kayla tries to one-up everyone on how trutrans she is
3) because i cannot comprehend what would drive anyone to post a picture of them wearing erotic lingerie to strangers on an imageboard
i get you, i don't in principle have anything against people who have experienced AGP and disagree with Blanchard's assertion that it is the cause of gender dysphoria rather than a manifestation of it, but still.
>>6023685
http://www.genderpsychology.org/autogynephilia/male_gender_dysphoria/autogynephilic_fetishism.html
Kayla's behaviour clearly falls within AGP Interpersonal Fantasy.
>>6023711
I don't care if they're comfy! Don't post them on here! Fuck!
>>6023723
that's pointless and just fuel for more shitposting. I still have years of hrt and ffs to do first
bored
ask me shite
tell me shite
insult me if ya feel like it
gotta kill another 30 minutes
>>6023720
>slope inwards
wat
>>6023723
just picture a generic black dude with a fucked up bowl-cut
>>6023728
give kik
>>6023725
don't make fun of kayla pls
If you were visiting a bff and she offered her dog, would you take her offer or be turned off that it wasn't your own dog?
>>6023725
>erotic lingerie
no its not
>>6023728
>>6023737
who else ships kaylily
>>6023725
>disagree with Blanchard's assertion that it is the cause of gender dysphoria rather than a manifestation of it, but still.
fair point, :) I know what you mean, I really think Kayla is trying to turn over a new leaf, granted for like the 10000th time but, she kinda looks like a girl this time, so i'm inclined to give her another chance. the sexy lingerie stockings pic post is a bit iffy but, you know, rome wasn't built in a day, these things take time.
>>6023730
you know it takes a fairly long time to grow your hair out if you're black right? its short rn bc that's just how much it grew in the few months I've been letting grow out
I don't wanna blog post but I need to tell somebody
my gay friend's new bf grows pot and said he will give me free top quality weed if I let him experiment with me to try and help him figure out if he's gay or bi
I don't want to be a slut or for him to break down, or to fuck up my friends relationship but free high quality weed is tempting :s
>>6023730
like korra?
>>6023723
ppl know what she looks like and I doubt she's really looking for opinions and troll posting
>>6023725
disproportionately mad I feel
its a 4chan imageboard, one of the places you would expect to see that kind of thing
its not explicit so
>>6023739
sorry i'm not into yaoi
>>6023697
>I used to get my panties ruffled saying, 'omg trutrans people are so much better, har har har, death to AGP transbians' then i realized that it really just doesn't fucking matter at all. live and let live, love and let love.
So much this. Respect.
>>6023744
wait, is having sex with you going to prove that he's bi.... Or that he's not perceiving you as a woman?
>>6023623
Nice try.
I see you are too scared to reply
>>6023744
well seems like it would be a bad move for the friendship if you took his bf up on his offer
>Tranny angles
Check
>Fag Pikachu hat
Check
>Meme Lighting
Check
How could it get faggier
>>6023744
I'd do it, but only if it wasn't a secret to my friend.
>>6023728
you look like this (cis) girl in school, did i ever tell you that?
well kinda anyway.
>>6023737
okay kayla, give me one fucking example of a normal, non-erotic everyday scenario in which wearing lace and garters would be deemed appropriate.
Kayla, can you fucking imagine wearing that with a skirt in public and not being judged the fuck out of for it?
There is a time and place.
>>6023735
>>6023740
I'm sorry, some things just grind what residual gears i have left from being repressed and sex averse.
>>6023749
I don't give a damn where we are, it's just knowing Kayla is out there thinking it's socially acceptable to do this shit!
>>6023753
not rlly, its got its ups and downs. one neat perk is being able to naturally grow an afro tho lol.
>>6023757
cute
>>6023757
Smile?
Suck a dick?
>>6023759
>socially acceptable
>4chan
see this is my problem, what the fuck are you talking about
>>6023759
post kt
>>6023757
>How could it get faggier
Giving us a butt pic.
Can't we all just be nice to each other for one day?
>>6023757
Take an angled selfie in a pikachu hat with meme lighting and tinkler out?
>>6023768
i only dislike myself, and not very much today
>>6023762
why would you ever want to grow an afro
why do you think wigs are almost always straight/wavy
that shit is not kawaii
>>6023757
>How could it get faggier
sucking my dick
>>6023759
>okay kayla, give me one fucking example of a normal, non-erotic everyday scenario in which wearing lace and garters would be deemed appropriate.
i want to be hypnotized sexually
>>6023744
only do it if your gay friend knows and is okay, free weed is hard to turn down
>>6023763
thanks anon
>>6023767
here
>>6023764
I dont smile in my pics, only smirk.
>>6023771
You know, fair enough.
I don't think I will be doing that anytime soon.
>>6023774
but i don't wanna do that anon
>>6023765
way to miss my point. even if we are on 4chan now, Kayla displays engrained behaviour that you KNOW she carries into everyday life and because... well... because i'm too much of a sad-act to just focus on my own life, it bugs me knowing that people like her who are oblivious of the social faux pas they commit are out there.
>>6023766
??
>>6023775
OH AND I BET THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK CIS GIRLS CAN GET AWAY WITH IT THAT IT'S OKAY
>>6023775
this. anon is a fucking retard.
>>6023666
I keep slipping up on my skincare. I mess up my sleep cycle just a little and suddenly my whole daily routine falls apart. Thanks, autism. But just moisturizing daily or even every other day makes a huge difference all by itself.
>>6023775
>Carpet event
>Two women going out in the evening
That's not everyday, that's special situations.
i want to be friends with every girl in mtfg
>>6023783
it doesn't even matter, it's still fucking degenerate.
we have like, this golden opportunity to present as wholesome, well-rounded individuals with traditional values, and we just squander it.
>>6023784
I don't share friends.
>>6023779
Smirk while blowing a dude?
>>6023780
damn who called the fashion police?
>>6023780
>well... because i'm too much of a sad-act to just focus on my own life,
Cmon sal, what's really wrong?
We can get through this, together
>>6023773
I personally don't I can't stand afros I'm just listing the one upside I can think of lol but I do know of some cute girls with that hairstyle. But to be fair they are so cute they'd make any hairstyle loom good and if they aren't wearing those silly afros they'd be that much cuter
>>6023782
yep yep, it really goes a long way. I like using noxema it feels so refreshing
>>6023788
>with traditional values
Or you could get off your fucking high horse. Nobody is going to respect you for being a willing stepford wife
>>6023779
Hey, you asked how to make it faggier, that's definitely an option. Other options include fellating a dildo, wearing lingerie, or any white substance that resembles cum. :^)
>>6023784
Hi, you probably don't want to be friends with everyone here,
but you can be friends with someone you shouldn't want to be friends with, let me.
I'm Pan, what's up in your life?
Holy fuck. This is starting to look like a really really bad idea.
>>6023798
>any white substance that resembles cum
Ideal locations are face, stomach, or small of the back
SOMEONE HAVE SECKS WITH MY BODY I SO HORNYY
>>6023807
cmere bb
>>6023798
Elanna NO! no lewd posting today you'll spread the disease!
>>6023807
Sure
you in london?
>>6023807
Nice ribcage, I'm green
>>6023796
I just keep using the first cheap unscented lotion I found. What all do you do? I just use a moisturizer, chemical exfoliator, sunscreen, and a cleanser. I feel like I still have a lot to learn about skincare, but I can't really afford a bunch of products until I land this job at the place where my little sis works.
How do I tell if my ribs, back, hips and shoulders will pass? In other words my torso.
>>6023805
Pilsbury toaster strudels come with some very suggestive white icing if you're in need of suggestion. My ex sprayed some all over my mouth once..was kinda hot
>>6023810
Awe cmon only a little? ;~;
>>6023795
I dunno. Stuff. The list of things I need to do to transition seems insurmountable and I have no idea how I'm going to ever be able to afford it and my family won't support me and my skin is terrible and dry from the chemicals I had to use during my temp job last week and I hane no IRL social life because I cut loose from old friends from moving around the country so much.
>>6023797
so being a wife is less respectable than being an internet camwhore?
>>6023807
-____-
fuck it
i've exhausted myself through being a loud mouth and arguing on the internet of all places. fuckin reality check. what a waste of time.
well bye for the day, I'm not here to get bullied for just trying to hide the scars on my legs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5kUcPziBd0
awwww yus
>tfw fav lez is releasing a new album soon
>>6023814
same routine as you use really, only inhave a blemish remover too that gets rid of dark/reddish spots. drink at least 5 cups of water a day. Its amazing for your health and skin
>>6023817
>so being a wife is less respectable than being an internet camwhore?
Most wives do not idealize being a puritan submissive with no fashion taste. They're women with needs, desires, and a sexuality.
Also the whole "sex workers are bad" thing is a very old transitioner thing to get worked up about.
>>6023815
No one knows
>>6023815
It just doesn't. I mean this is basic anatomy here.
>>6023822
Yeah, I drink tons of water. Blemish remover, huh? I usually have a little red patchiness on my face. Might be worth checking out.
>>6023815
go get measured by a tailor
look up girl averages
I dunno
>>6023825
Holy cow, I remember that movie.
>>6023832
ya I use this one desu
>>6023834
THERE WAS A RAZORBACK IN MY TRUCK
>>6023835
already deleted
if you want you can just send me the unseen link to my email
[email protected]
>>6023824
>maybe on my butt or something
That's the spirit!
>>6023838
huh, well that time went by quick what the hell
will do tho
>>6023839
yeah but there is nobody to do that so like
its w/e
im not gonna just
buy some and spread it on my butt
>>6023835
Right now the problem goes beyond that. You're being a moralizing ass over literally nothing.
I wish you luck with transition, but if there's something the first year does, is break the sheltered.
>>6023842
Well then, we need to find you someone to squirt icing on your butt. Don't let your dreams be dreams!
>>6023846
this is starting to sound like your dream more than anyone else's
So what do y'all like to do with your nails? Paint them yourself, go to a salon?
I always liked painting my own, I found it relaxing. Plus it's a lot cheaper. But recently I went and got a french manicure, and my nails looked ~amazing~ for like two whole weeks. When I paint them myself I had to re-do them every week. And I'm looking at my nails right now and they're all uneven and differently shaped and it makes me want to go to a salon.
>>6023844
with kayla, who has had a history of shit talking on both sides of the fence.
>>6023854
i cut them real short so girls know i'm dtf
>>6023854
Do them myself, a clear layer.
>>6023852
But this isn't a dream, I could in theory do that this Saturday, I have a few toaster strudels in the freezer..>.>;
>>6023838
nm i found the fb page for her business and found a couple of photographs of her there and i'm starting to think... she's not how i remembered her... you might actually look better than her lol.
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/10846158_1025853794106745_208720646165231481_n.jpg?oh=2c2c319955e21c95b35c79f68f332239&oe=57B93F55
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1461499_759683454057115_926745216_n.jpg?oh=7ec7b1ae1a3feb65127a7e53086ab092&oe=57BEC08C
>>6023846
well i have people in mind that i wouldnt
>>6023864
sp00ky
>>6023854
I do my own manis and then get them painted at the salon. manicuring is fun to me in an OCD kind of way and a perfect paint job is like 6 dollars generally. I like having 100s of colors to choose from when I go.
>tfw ywn pass
>>6023867
mind doing that*
>>6023815
unfortunately, male borns will never have female torso. but passing is possible b/c not all cis women have ideal figures either
>>6023873
you pass better than most
>>6023875
Didnt you have longer dyed hair?
Why switch to a shorter ugly hair cut?
how do i clean mold off my bathroom wall
>>6023879
That, and most cis people don't analyse the proportions of your torso when gendering you.
>>6023881
I haven't cut my hair in one year
so like
i never switched to a shorter hair cut
and the dye just shows differently in different lighting
>>6023883
just looked it up i need bleach
>>6023873
>tfw ywn pass
T does miracles
So ummm, how long until my muscle completely goes away? I'm eating less and less, but maybe I should just completely starve myself until it's gone.
>>6023894
i do too
but not for cleaning
>>6023897
marathon-style cardio is your fran
>>6023898
>wow im so hot
>boohoo im gonna kill myself
>gosh i love gem
do you ever say anything worthwhile?
>>6023902
I need it for washing clothes :v
But no, I definitely do not.
>>6023821
>me
>mtfg
This place ruined my repression
>>6023906
Either break off from trannies entirely (because why would you want to be associated with the mentally ill when you pass?), actually kill yourself, or steal gem from yume. None of the three are hard to do.
>>6023910
Why are you giving me positive advice from your point of view?
Like I assumed you had a hatred for me, so why would you be positive towards me?
Eh, either way I don't want to steal gem from yume, they love each other and who am I to fuck up a relationship?
Thats just messed up. I've done it before and I'm sure as hell never going to do that again.
I am a mentally ill too y'know, like I am a tranny.
To the
>wow im so hot
I don't actually think I'm hot unless I'm drunk.
Then I think I look super fucking hot, but other than that I really only think I look aite.
>>6023915
>I don't actually think I'm hot unless I'm drunk.
>Then I think I look super fucking hot
giving yourself beer goggles for yourself is the best feel ever
>>6023918
It is a pretty damn good feel desu.
Like, its the only time I thought I could be desirable to most people in the world.
>>6023915
I don't hate you, I just find you annoying. From my point of view? I'm not sure what you mean by that, it all seemed like pretty generic advice based on what you constantly say. You're not super hot, but you're certainly the most attractive and well passing person on this entire board. You clearly are mentally ill, I'll certainly give you that, but you still seem more like a normal girl than anyone else here, as well.
>>6023921
its funny because most men who get drunk see women get hotter and hotter, so when we get drunk we feel more and more attractive
its pretty freaky
>>6023888
it depends on whether or not they are paying attention
some people are too busy and will give you an easy pass, while others will notice
>>6023928
>she thinks women don't have beer goggles
how do I deal with being ugly and unpassing forever?
>>6023937
the media never shows that side, you only see men get beer goggles
How long into transition did (you) start to notice changes to your face mtfg?
>>6023924
I meant from your point of view, all those pieces of advice are good from your mind yeah? And thank you, I don't think I am super hot for sure though. Nor do I think I am the most attractive and well passing person on this board. Do you mind elaborating on how I seem like a normal girl though? I don't understand that one much.
>>6023928
yup!
I feel cute as fuckkk when im drunk
Like I took this image and thought it was the hottest thing ever
Now I view it as not so much
but when i was drunk and took it damn
>>6023946
Never
>>6023946
18 months
>>6023948
You don't count you're barely even on hrt.
>>6023946
~6 months
>>6023946
1 month.
Probably because I stopped wanting to kill myself.
good morning ladies
whats on the schedule for today
>>6023963
I'm so triggered rn that's my deadname
>>6023960
You already looked like a girl pre hrt.
>>6023947
Who do you think passes better than you? I would say the only person on this board besides you who passes is elanna, and she's not as attractive as you. You're clearly the youngest here as well. You seem normal in the fact that you seem to drink often, seem mildly self absorbed, and you almost definitely have daddy issues, and are/used to be a slut, I'm guessing? You seem to complain less about passing and more about romantic issues. Could do a bit with your depression, though. Also your whole list thing seemed superficial and catty, so perfect for a teen girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT14NPb7T1U
;-;7
>>6023873
>>6023963
sup.
>>6023968
Thanks Anon <3
>>6023970
I made the list when I was drunk if that puts anything into there. http://pastebin.com/WzwVvbqE I updated it since I don't want to always be a bitch.
I think Red and Ufufu pass the best in this thread, but thats just me I think. I drink like once a week, maybe twice on adventurous weeks. I'm not really that self absorbed, like I think I'm an OKAY person but nothing that great. I have more than my fair share of daddy issues for sure. Like my daddy issues are the daddy issues that will pierce the heavens. I am kind of a slut yeah, I mean if I find someone cute I will go with them, but I can't be loyal in a relationship, or even really be in a relationship because of being a borderline. I know I pass 100% because how people apologize without me saying anything if they misgender me by the clothes I wear, as well as people always assume I'm female if they see my face. I do complain about romantic issues a lot though because of something that happened a few years ago that I think permanently damaged my ability to be with someone romantically and stay with them for very long periods of time. It does have to do with my depression as well though. I am basically emotionally a teen girl for the most part, but I am not the youngest here I know that. Shea and ava are younger, though I don't think they actively post here. Sammy is also the same age as me.
Sorry for text wall.
>>6023974
what is that?
>>6023990
The list seems a little tounge-in-cheek, doesn't it? I just like evaluating and psychoanalyzing you, maybe because in just a couple weeks you've gone from not posting here to being one of the most active posters. It's also nice to see you reply to just about everyone (though it seems you ignore when anons apologize to you, what's up with that?). All in all, you're certainly a better poster than most, but you're almost too good for this place. Hey, if you want to wallow in shit, I'm not gonna tell you you cant
just reevaluate your life choices, mkay?
>>6023946
I don't know, I've never taken whoremoans
Jesus Christ what's the point.
Just live and die as your natural gender for fuck sake.
>>6023946
I didn't notice any till like 1 year+.
I was looking at some older pictures trying to find some photos to show my gf of some old friends and found some of me. Changed a decent amount I think.
>>6024006
https://www.captionbot.ai/
>>6024013
i don't know about most people here but being a girl is easy and fun
>>6024010
I really hope I snap out of this and its all one big mental phase and I go to back to lifting.
>>6024022
I wish I could go back in time and do things a little differently, and live a cis normal life
>>6023946
At a month in, a friend noticed that my skin was much clearer and fairer. At about three months I started to (rarely) catch my face in a mirror and not see a man. I'm hoping that those rare moments become increasingly common, because now that people are occasionally gendering me female despite my presentation, I'm really kind of craving more of it, and terribly put out when I get gendered male. Having better self-esteem would just be the best.
>>6024015
>https://www.captionbot.ai/
>>6023947
>>6024032
Kekkles
>>6024007
Maybe it does seem that way, though its not the whole intention. I try to apologize to each and every person that talks to me or says stuff to me though unless they are just saying nasty stuff that aren't necessarily bad things, but just stuff I don't have the energy to talk about. I definitely do not intentionally ignore anyone apologizing to me or saying kind things though, like stuff like that. Maybe it seems that way, but I can assure you that its an unlucky coincidence. I thank you for the kind words though, but I don't think I am too good for this place... Like, I may be more cheery and less depressed than people here, and maybe even sit focusing on my own bull shit less than others, but I view this place as like a family environment as cheesy and snobby as that sounds. Like, actually not as much as a family but almost like a club at a school or something. That is the absolute best comparison I can give. Ty for all the advice and kind words though anon, I really do appreciate it even if it seems like I don't.
Thank you^^
>>6024013
Im obviously not naturally a boy gender what r u talkin about :^)
>>6024015
>>>>>>
>>6024038
rofl on my waffle falafel
>>6024037
HOW DID THEY KNOW I WAS ON MY BED WTFFFF
>>6024013
But this is my natural gender.
>>6024036
I love how elaborately off the mark it can get at times.
I usually detest the bullying of kayla and think it is in no way justified, but I am literally DYING right now
>>6024032
poor kayla
>>6024042
Lol I want to die
>>6024042
You've ignored every apology I've sent you, though. I just wanted to know what changed within that week, I don't expect you to forgive me.
>>6024054
>wearing a colorful bed
>be me
>practice voice on my own
>try two different vocal therapists
>still sound like a man
fucking kill me
https://clyp.it/wmkj5hcj
>>6024042
I couldn't see this as a school club. I've been lurking an anonposting since one of the first threads, and I don't feel anything more than contempt for a majority of the people here. You're probably just nicer than me. I like to give advice, even if it isn't the best, and I'll probably give you advice again in a seemingly insulting way, if you need it. I'm glad someone appreciates me, though, that means a lot to me as well.
>>6024064
>way more passable and beautiful pre-hrt than ill ever be
>still whining
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>6024064
>looks like Moritz Bleibtreu's sister
>not passing
Fix your eyebrows desu
>>6024061
terrible voice
>>6024032
it's true, hrt shrinks your neck
how the fuck am I supposed to suppress this rage I feel
AAs NEED TO COME SOON
>flicking through old pics of me for the captionbot
>constant reminder that I look like that irish guy from Facts
pic related.
>>6024080
>do what you have to for suvival
I'm passing, but still have boymode b/c boy job keeps roof over my head
>>6024092
I'd ask you to pm what you mean but considering you have me blocked I suppose it's a moot point cause I'd rather not talk about it here
>>6024102
lol that sucks I dunno how you hons manage
daily reminder that if you arent using girlvoice 24/7 youll never nail it and prob sound like a male faggot
>>6023844
this is very true, if you don't end up having an epiphany and reassessing stuff... desu i expected to be elbow deep in validation dicks in a queer housing collective in London because i expected my family to reject me. instead i have a gf and a family who loves me and a stable job and i'll be moving countries. i thought i'd become this ultra fem pink loving stereotype over being so repressed for years. i didn't. i thought i wouldn't go full time for 6+ months and boymode would be fine but it felt worse than being repressed and not transitioning and i had to start living. that first year really blows whatever ideas you had about transition out of the water and thats gotta break plenty.
hi goo mornin
>>6024104
Id rather not talk about it ever.
Ill give a tl;dr.
Each night i was crying and would have to leave w/e it was i was doing to take 30 minutes to chill.
eventually yume and alison were like
'whatsup with you'
i said many time si didnt wanna talk about it because other people are gonna be affected by it
but both of them kept asking and i answered eventually
yume was like w/e and alison was like 'aww we can talk'
so i kept getting upset and unhappy time to time but like, i was crying one night and just said 'fml' in group chat
then wohlfe dmd me asking what was up and i finally told him in a fit of crying and upsetedness.
then later i told yume and alison and had talks with them about it as per his advice
after saying everything that happened and each detail like
eh
>>6024113
>https://clyp.it/dkz21lol
i think i girl voice decently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Yszp3SmxE
I refuse to do this. I am a failure the white race if I do this.
Oh god I wish /pol/ would save me
>>6024122
hai fruuuugggy butt
>>6024126
>wishing to be saved by basement dwelling autists
>>6024130
hi hi hi
>>6024123
Now I feel even worse, I wish you would have told me. I'm sorry for everything that happened, though I don't remember any of it. I considered you a friend and I fucked that up, and for that I'm probably the most sorry. Honestly, I'm less upset about what had happened, and more upset about how it's affected you this way.
Seattle was a mistake.
Hiii~
>>6024126
Embrace the trans anon
>>6024137
From what I've seen of you all.
You all lead miserable lives and are publically ridiculed or perceive yourself to be. Riddled with hormonal emotions and constant fear.
The constant drugs you need to maintain it. The endless work needed to stave off your desire to kill yourselves.
At least repression allows me to keep my misery to myself and no one will EVER know
so is anyone going to start a new thread or?
>>6024154
There are no mistakes, there is no blame. You can't change anything that happened.
>>6024162
let's not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixyKFqI5pg4
>>6024159
I actually have a pretty good life, and while some people mock trannies as a concept, most cis people are generally unable to tell because most of the tells are also common false positives.
The only thing repression leads to is either becoming an older transitioner, which will make you highly visible and paint a target on your face, or suicide.
>>6024157
I want to fuckin die
>>6024166
it's time to lay this general in its final resting place.
>>6024164
Well, there were mistakes, and there's certainly blame, but you're right. I blame you mostly though, desu.
>>6024165
You have no reason to apologize
It was doomed to begin with
I'd like to forget it ever happened but I understand if you never can
It's why I stopped tripping and left the discord
so you can move on
>>6024177
But 1000 posts is the magic number.
>>6024174
I don't expect to live another year.
I'm already planning to just end it. Because I don't want to live to see that happen.
>>6024180
You can blame who ever you want, it doesn't mean anything. Resentment and regret are pointless and destructive emotions.
Sooo, how many of you self med (like myself) if you don't mind me asking ?
Type/brand names?
Bicalutamide(Calutide)and estrofem for myself
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