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>>5944485
N-no come back bring me with u
>>5944489
u can't if ur not transed lmaoo
>>5944490
post pictures of yourself doing happy things nao
>ywn hang out with all the cool trips in your city
>ywn be cool
>>5944495
>>5944495
>>5944502
i mean alright
>>5944495
O-okay
>>5944503
>wanting to hang out with trips
>>5944446
>tfw Yume will never cook you a bowl of beans & bean
I'm hungry~
>>5944505
you literally look more manly than him
>>5944493
>tfw just a gay alpha male looking for another gay alpha male to be ur partner
>>5944510
i mean thats not even what it was..... it wasnt just beans it was really good ;_;
>>5944511
idk i got gendered female the entire time those 2 days by at least 6 strangers off the top of my head
>>5944520
what is sucking dick like?
>>5944522
ask your mom.
>>5944512
dude either I stole that img from u or u stole it from me
and we both know who the colored one is here.
>>5944520
ur voice is DOPE
>>5944507
while trips are not the kind of people you'd hang around, i just need someone to not be in constant denial with
i die a little inside being with my actual friends cause half of them are girls and i feel so left out when they talk about girl stuff
>>5944518
Yeah I missed that there was rice as well, hehe; although honestly just 50/50 mixed refried beans and garbanzo beans would probably be pretty good, mix in pico de gallo and some lime or something...
>>5944523
my mom is dead
>>5944526
I mean trips are cool just some of them are fucking psycho ;]
>>5944529
oh..sorry.
>how the dick goes from completely flaccid to rock hard in a second
immersion ruined
>>5944532
what about the ones in portland
>>5944495
>>5944534
fucking INSANE man don't go there u don't wanna meet em they're just so terrible ;]]]]]
>>5944522
depends on the dick desu
my boyfriend's penis is super thick and big that it was hard to not use teeth ;~; most of the time he just wanted to fuck my face though but it was super enjoyable and i wish i did it more, also worlds better than sucking a pinky-sized wenis
>>5944524
danke pooks
>>5944538
goodnight u crazy kids
>>5944546
ayyyyee
>>5944546
hopefully for all of our sake you die in your sleep
>>5944552
r00d
>>5944552
cheer up anon
when I say yummy you say yume!
yummy!!
>>5944559
yume
D E A D
same time EVERY night
>>5944564
N-no u
>>5944565
pookie
>>5944567
Kiwi
>>5944568
эiʞooq
>>5944563
yummy!!!
I'm not trans, I'm just some sort of spectrum of autist, I have to be. I just latched on to transsexuality and was unable to let it go.
I am overly emotional, nothing I ever do is right, I feel overwhelmed 90% of the time, I just talk and offend people or get them to hate me... people say "I don't want to adult today" as a joke, I literally struggle with getting up in the morning and even showering every day.
I am a joke and I need to kill myself.
do any of u pretend to be a boy during sex?
>>5944569
I-Idk how 2 do that
>>5944574
out-skillэd
i tell my boyfriend he's gay after we do lewd and he denies it and gets all flustered
>>5944571
you sound severely anxious and depressed, not really autistic.
>>5944576
desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu it's gay desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu
>>5944580
hbthbthbthbthbthbt
>>5944582
>>5944571
I feel you sheen.
you just need to get outside and do a little at a time
>>5944584
>>5944588
desu
>>5944589
pookie u r scarein meh xc
Is there even a point in trying? Should I an hero now?
>>5944593
>>5944600
>>5944605
>>5944598
become a girl instead
>>5944608
>>5944611
wtf are we doing w/ our lives
>>5944613
Fun things, obviously.
>>5944613
idk about u kookie but i'm going to sleep naow
>>5944609
>tfw you will never pass
If I force myself to pass out often enough.
How long until I find and kill the trans braincells with hypoxia?
how do you deal with wanting to die every day and completely forcing yourself to be someone you're not because your brain is completely fucked up and fighting off the urge to completely shut down and off yourself every day? how do you make the existential dread go away?
>>5944615
O-oh gnight!
>>5944614
heh shitposting in between stepmania songs
>>5944621
s: by fixing the problem
You know what you gotta work out yume ; __ ;
>>5944622
nite nite
tell froge i said hi c;
>>5944621
MAMA
BABY WANT MILK
>>5944626
O-okay I did thank u
>>5944624
what you suggested doesn't fix the problems and doesn't make me feel better. its simply a matter of fact that my entire life was ruined in the first few years of my life and any chance of me ever being consistently happy was ruined from the getgo.
>>5944626
weren't you leaving forever?
>>5944621
Lots and lots of endorphins and testosterone
How do i make peace with the fact that i'm scarring for life the driver of the truck i go under?
>>5944632
i think you may be right honestly i should probably detrans for good
>>5944622
>yuri15
>15
Be a nice girl and share those pics.
>>5944630
Wasn't me heh
at least not on skype
But well
that's not fact and you know it, if that's your mindset nothing will change. You need to believe you can change things and be happy for it to happen.
>>5944635
O-okay if you say so >//w//<
I have a lot tho
>>5944626
she said ur the og turk
>>5944636
I meant like in a folder.
>I have a lot tho
Good, tons of cute pictures :3
I just turned 18 and I don't wanna hate myself for the rest of my life. Is there even a point in transitioning or should I just kms
>>5944640
Transition doesnt work. Kill youreself
>>5944640
genetics
>>5944636
I don't even know where to begin
>>5944571
I'm really sorry that it's this bad. I think you're being awfully cruel to yourself, and wish you'd give yourself some time to let this particular ideation pass.
>>5944634
The best thing about it is. Being male responds well to Brute force, to anger, to hate. You can always win.
I've even dragged a knife across the side of my face.
>>5944639
I-Idk how ><
pls show me
>>5944645
w/ talking or changing your mindset?
Regardless I think you should tell her about everything you've said. And then go from there.
>>5944640
how long hrt?
>>5944649
A-actually I don't know what people use nowadays to upload...
I guess you can put them on an imgur album, if it's not too much trouble.
>>5944616
just do your best, I get clocked every now and then
>>5944640
kys
People respond to sheen as though she isn't a worse troll than Kayla.
>posting the same whiny shit for two years
>never makes even the tiniest incrimental step forward
You're not trans, "Shannon"
>>5944652
U-uploading
What's my reward o-o;
I always had fantasies about being captured by girls and foribily given a sex change and then mind controlled to be a girl matrix style
>>5944656
You know Shannon is her birth name so putting quotes around it is empty petulance, right?
>>5944656
shannon is her birth name
>>5944658
I-I guess you can pick something.
>>5944656
"no one is worse then me"
-kayla
hello people of shitland, I have arrived.
>>5944649
No hrt, I'm in a relationship that's stopping me from transitioning but I'm starting to think i should end it
>>5944665
I-it's stuck ; ______ ;
>>5944668
If your partner won't let you get on HRT then breakup with them lmao and start it like TOMORROW
IF YOU AREN'T ON HORMONES THEN LITERALLY GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD YOU MAN
>>5944670
Your probably right, thanks senpai
>>5944671
dang, thats some hardcore transphobia, gtfo shitlord
>>5944671
I'm on experimental Testosterone
>>5944671
B-but I'm cis, I-I swear.
I totally don't want to be a girl.
[spoiler];_;[/spoiler]
>>5944668
If your relationship is preventing you from being happy you should, you know, end it or try to reason with your partner.
>>5944670
Aw, I hope it gets unstuck, they seem all cute.
>dfw no pleb gf
>>5944671
there are a number of femmy guys that aren't that aren't trans, that take hormones
>tfw you don't have pictures of you doing things that make you happy because nothing in life brings you joy
Except being an edgequeen <3
>>5944681
H-hi
gosh I hope there's nothing really weird in there o-o;
http://imgur.com/a/QxRd0
>>5944683
lol
been reading about peoples experiance on bicalutamide who claim that after awhile body hair started to disappear completely (not into vellus hair), I asked my endo about it but he has very little knowledge on bica, is there any truth to this?
>>5944695
on hrt for two years and I still have male arm hair and thigh hair
what dosage do they do?
>>5944689
some of those images are downright lewd, i couldve gotten fired
>>5944697
ranging from 50 - 150mg iirc
>>5944698
S-sorry ~~ !
>>5944700
so its similar to spiro in the mg range
I wish I looked like this tbfam.
>>5944689
Thanks, you're the best :3
>>5944711
Of course !!<3
who /vapenation/ here??
Well, that's unsettling. No more waking to work when it's still dark out.
MtF's still enjoy prostate stimulation?
>>5944717
What happened Grill?
Starting to get bored of telling people everyday about how im gona kill myself desu.
>>5944718
some do, some even report enjoying it through their surgical vajayjays
>>5944723
Never gonna bore me tbfam.
>>5944718
idk I haven't rlly tried
>>5944719
Nothing bad, just an old guy leering at me from, like, two metres away when I noticed him. Park and pathway lighting isn't what it used to be, and I won't stay man-strong forever.
>tfw get a Pandora chain and a bunch of Jewelry from family
:3
>>5944733
Oooh. Kinda jealous of that feel.
>>5944731
>crying about being leered at like a woman
Chek ur priv senpai
it's too late for meeeee ;_;
>>5944738
Pretty fucked up comment, Anon.
But I'm still getting used to not wanting to be killed in a dark and isolated place so that none of my family or friends can blame themselves for my practical suicide. It's a learning process, and you need to review old habits.
>>5944739
How can the knife be laying on top of the gun?
>>5944756
the nigga who took the pic arranged it that way
My titties hurt so bad, I'm only a month on hrt this shouldn't be happening yet tf?
>>5944773
it's the same for me so I really hope it's a good thing
>>5944773
they hurt the worst the first few months
>>5944783
people have already saying that I look alot different but other than that nothing I can think of
>>5944656
>People respond to sheen as though she isn't a worse troll than Kayla.
I'm not a troll, I'm pathetic
>You're not trans, "Shannon"
I know
>>5944790
Omg I'm pathetic too. but how do I not be trans? Jelly
hmm, feel like cutting myself again
>>5944801
don'ttt
>order spiro from qhi, take 100mg every 12 hours
>after 2 or three days get a weird aching sensation in chest
>take more sprio yesterday, about a week after starting it
>within minutes get heart palpitations, shivering, sweating, severe headache
>try to get water, but legs are so weak I can barely stand
>I lose vision and get ringing in my ears like i'm about to faint
>can't sleep at all because all this shit is lasting all night
>be this morning, aching in chest is back again and worse than before
Just nope nope nope.
I don't know why this happened to me but I'm never touching spiro again.
I followed all the diet and exercise recommendations perfectly, I'm young and fit, and this still happened.
>>5944802
fuck you i wont do what you tell me
>>5944801
Tell us what's bothering you, anon-chan?
I am currently in hell, and its not /mtfg
Ugh. Fucking hell
>>5944808
just tired of being a fucking cuck my whole life
also i looked in the mirror again
>>5944798
be an undiagnosed autistic and convince yourself you're trans and antagonize over it for 20 years when in reality you're agp at best
what is everyones scores?
So I'm looking at breaking my collar bone to get my shoulders a bit smaller.
Any advice?
>>5944811
>>5944807
I too have browsed and gotten a bunch of edgy images in the past to help me feel better. (some tags on danbooru like wrist_cutting, that kind of stuff).
How old are you, how long on hormones, why do you think cutting yourself fixes anything (I've done but I was probably just trying to feel sorry for myself)?
>>5944812
agp is a ridiculous and worthless concept. don't even worry about it.
just eat some estrogen, find a nice girl to date and talk to a fucking therapist. it'll all be okay.
>>5944821
>why do you think cutting yourself fixes anything
cutting feels good and is fun.
>>5944815
Too lazy to do math as I'm reading something. Wasn't there a site that does the calculation for me?
>>5944815
-515 wat
>>5944821
21, 0 days, feels good nigga
>>5944829
http://www.checkmyprivilege.com/quiz
>>5944831
>-515 wat
-1505
get on my level
>>5944835
Ironically because of my autism I did it on calc anyway. G-d bless you for sharing this for others.
-140. Check your privilege lesbos!
>>5944838
YAH I KNOW IM WAY MORE OPPRESSED THAN -515 THIS QUIZ IS OPRESSING ME
>>5944832
Why are you not on hormones?
>>5944841
repression, escapism, confusion, no concrete sense of self, waiting to die
i'll start soon but it's not going to be pretty
>>5944844
Y-you should at least try to have a more positive outlook on things, think of it as your new beggining, I don't know, but that attitude sure isn't healthy.
So any tips to break bones?
>>5944815
-485
unpassable trans kills you
>>5944851
>unpassable trans kills you
Fi plz
>>5944848
>>5944848
people cucking me left and right for literally my entire life wasn't healthy
not knowing how to give and receive intimate physical/emotional affection isn't healthy
dropping out of high school and quitting my job and neglecting all of my responsibilities wasn't healthy
it's hard to care anymore, this is just something to entertain myself with before I an hero
>>5944850
get a friend to break them with a baseball bat and hope that the doctors set them narrower?
>>5944854
That's rough.
I wish you good luck and that transition works well enough that you'll stop feeling that way.
>>5944867
transitioning isn't going to fix me, it's just going to further cement my mental illness in reality
i'm not looking to improve my life
my life is a joke for me to laugh at
>>5944815
-445
Trans people are so touchy on certain subjects
>>5944887
OMG NO WE AREN'T FUCK OFF WITH YOUR TRANSPHOBIC BULLSHIT
>>5944887
I'M LITERALLY BEING OPPRESSED RN
my head hurts
>>5944903
Have tried going to a doctor already ?
>>5944906
no. I am afraid of going out and of doctors as long as my bf doesnt make me, I am not going anywhere
he says its probably just malnutrition
I am getting a proper meal for dinner though, so it might be better soon
>>5944908
are you going to be eating... sausage this evening?
>>5944815
-420
>>5944915
no I just did that. I love morning sex
hes going to cook chili for dinner
>>5944917
w-what I meant literal sausage
like wurst sausage not euphanism sausage
get your mind out of the gutter!
...
seriously though I wish I had a vagina too and a cute /pol/ chemist bf
>>5944924
the dream tbqh
Why am I so into guys that don't have their shit together? Like musicians and artists and general slackers.
>>5944924
I wish I wasnt a wreck.
but I am really lucky I got him. he a qt
he isnt a chemist though
>go to reddit trans irc
>ask them how they feel about passing
>tell me that passing is bullshit
>links me to this video saying Alex is a beautiful trans woman
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj4V-Nme86U
>mfw of the horror
>tfw you shave your beaver (and winter bear legs) for the first time in months.
>>5944936
>go to reddit
I am sorry anon, that was your first mistake
>>5944936
omfg what's their irc group? That sounds hilarious
>>5944935
oh
well still
he is cute
I just wish I had a vagina and a boyfriend who can stick his dick into said vagina
>>5944942
you can doo eeet!
soon(TM)
>>5944942
i know this feel all too well ;__;
>>5944946
I wish I had a /pol/ bf to turn gay :(
>>5944950
its not gay if the balls dont touch
he just puts his dick in your ballsack
>>5944950
its easier to become the little grill than turn a straight guy into a fag tho
>>5944946
I cant though because I am broke and bankrupt and unemployed and hopelessly ugly
so yeah I'm just going to kill myself because I'm not even trans anyway
>>5944958
iktf be my friend
>>5944960
Idk
I was always kinda andro
even got gendered female a bunch of times before I transitioned, but the only people interested in me were short grills and flaming fags. no remotely straight men. but Idk, maybe my behaviour was too manly back then
>>5944958
>because I'm not even trans anyway
what makes you say that?
dubs decides where i cut myself
Hi
I don't want to kill myself anymore (for now)
I think im going to ease on the degenerate shit for a while. Also I bought yoga pants ( i planned on buying them at target today but was having an episode so just got them from Amazon)
Finished my essay for today tho. And did my workouts.
>>5944974
In the shit. As in cut that shit out and get help
>>5944978
poorly memed
So we are not going to Egypt now
>>5944983
thats good news
I was legit worried gurl ._.
avoid MENA at all costs
go visit it when they stop cutting people in half
>>5944980
I-I forgot to checkem' please believe me..... I'm so sorry
>>5944815
-950
......
How fucked am I....
>>5944969
because I'm just an undiagnosed autist who convinced himself he is trans
>tfw I'm gonna get ffs and still look like a man because t shaped body and short legs
>mfw I will look like Michael Bolton in drag
>mfw I want to die but too many people are guilting me
>mfw still posting here
and yet I take solace knowing I'm not Kayla or Anthony Burch
>>5944993
Oh god I love that song
>>5944992
>tfw sperg ad(h)d tranny
the holy trinity
>>5944999
I thought that was BPD Depression tranny?
though maybe autism is more stereotypical
>>5944991
Same
>tfw feelin pretty good this morning then catch reflection in a mirror and see man body
>coworker talks to me and hear my gravely gross voice
sigh..
>>5944992
I thought it was that autists (like, actual autism not the 4chan definition) could have problems in which they think they're trans but actually aren't
>>5945003
its the holy trinity of neurological issues or things that dont real
>>5945004
they say that about most mental disorders though, mostly in combination with BPD, but Idk. I guess both things are possible
Are we really all degenerates and have mental illnesses?
Serious question
>>5944991
>tfw I got fms instead
>>5945009
yes to both.
the second point isnt even debatable
>>5945009
yea
>>5945009
>>5945009
almost every human has a mental illness, some are just better at hiding/suppressing it than others
>>5944992
I'm dysphoric as far as I know
I'm just sinking the boot into myself, but I am never going to afford srs because broke, unemployed and bankrupt
but I am ugly and I'm dumb and worthless
I'm going to bed
>>5945009
Degenerate is a nazi term that isn't really rooted in science
They believed that doing things they don't see as moralley right destroys your genetic material
So we're in definition not degenerate
I'm not too sure about gender dysphoria being called a mental illness is right
But i sure have other stuff going on that you could call mental illness
>>5945009
Most definitely. Some far more than others.
>>5944986
MENA?
>>5945009
I believe that we have a mental illness, but not on the same as other mental illnesses such as OCD or BPD.
When I was younger, I had medically diagnosed OCD, but I managed to overcome it through sheer willpower. I never, ever got rid of being trans though, no matter what I did.
This is me, ama.
The filename is a ruse.
>>5945031
Yous stole my pic you bitch.
>>5944936
Don't worry angie, passing is merely a social construct, with the average trans life-span being roughly 50 years old you only you only have to endure another 15 years of excruciatingly unforgivable pain. our lives do not matter and passing does not matter; Everything will eventually rot away, as long as the factor of time continues being the apex predator of the universe, the inevitable decay of all pain and memory is unstoppable.
>>5945025
But we destroy our ability to reproduce which means when we die our genetic material dies with us. It's not exactly the same but kinda along the same line of thinking
>>5945037
Well actually my head is pretty ok
As well as my body
They just don't match ;-;
>>5945037
O-oh
Why hate that region :?
>>5945040
the misalignement means something is wrong. I am pretty sure our heads were flooded with the wrong hormones in the womb, but I dont think that theory has been proven
>>5945042
cause its failed states and full of people that abduct and kill trannies nowadays. the arab spring destroyed most of them
>when you wake up before 12 for the first time in months
What is this world I'm living in? What do I do?
>>5945047
go back to sleep. its too early
>>5945046
I've been to the middle east before (Israel) . As far as I know, Israel has good lgbt rights, but the rest of the countries are backwards shitholes.
>>5945051
israel is full of kikes tho. thats definitely not better
>>5945053
I am a kike though (half).
I'm legitimately worried that now that teen transitioning is a thing, in a few years all the young pretty trans girls are gonna laugh at us.
>>5945059
Everyone's already laughing at us ;-;
We're the hons of a new generation
>>5945059
that's what you get for laughing at hons, you get to be hons yourself. not me though, I'll top myself before I transition
>>5945059
Its going to happen for sure. In a couple years this place is going to be filled with girls who started hrt around 15 who all perfectly pass but still complain about not starting hrt at 8. Its already happening here and there.
Some of us are the last of the old guard. Our time is over.
>>5945063
damn pookie
>>5945059
It's still trannies laughing at trannies
>>5945059
i dont worry about it too much desu. transitioning is still a rare thing despite how much it gets talked about, i dont think many people will be transitioning at like 14 until current millennials grow up and have kids and are more open about it. maybe in ten years young pretty girls will talk about us, but in ten years most of us will have either killed ourselves or have moved on enough to not care.
>>5945067
I laugh at all of us every day
Haha
What are we doing with our lives
>>5945071
I'm not sure if a big percentage of people will ever be ok with their kids being gay/trans
>>5945074
Thats deep Sophie.
Too deep.
>>5945075
I think it'll be big compared to today, but still nowhere near a majority.
Hello darkness my old friend.
>open /cgl/
>see brolita thread
>cis boys who look more feminine and passable than I could delude myself to think I could remotely reach
>my accurately manly face when
I hope my blood pressure gives me a stroke at 26
>>5945076
Haha
>>5945063
pretty sure the lowerbound on transitioning is capped at 18, unless society changes a bunch more. we'll see less early 20s transitioners and more like 18/19 but its pretty hard to do pre 18 if your family is a shit.
>>5945083
>26
Oh, i thought you were older ...
>>5944504
DORKS
>>5945098
I only came out to my mum yet and she was ok with it
>>5945083
just remember that lolita is a fashion with incredibly heavy emphasis on makeup and wigs. most of the brolitas you see get posted are very very good at styling their wigs and doing their makeup and a lot of them are mildly e-famous too.
>>5945098
im well beyond ever wanting to associate with family again, magically love me or not.
>>5945095
your bdd isnt reality angie
>>5945092
glasses make men look older
>>5945103
E B I N
I need to get fucked so bad, is it worth having sex with a chaser if you're desperate? how scarred would I be? never let a guy touch my gt before, cause dysphoria too bad.
>>5945112
sprölölöö
>>5945109
unless you fell for this meme post you probably haven't
>>5945117
Ok, i fell for the memepost
>>5945118
I actually look far worse
>>5945109
Makeup is a huge part of the fashion, although it does trend towards nudes with most coords. Also its very common for j-fash in general to take excellent care of your skin since it's so important to most of the fashion to be smooth and clear in that regard. comparing a no makeup natural hair version of yourself to photos posted in a lolita or brolita thread is just silly and will only make you feel bad.
>>5944950
Get out of my sight you degenerate
>>5945117
That face is melting with sweat and grease
>>5945124
from what I recall from someone is that they're actually genderfluid or something, 0 Artificial E/AAs
>>5945102
Ayyyyyy
>>5945131
too bad genderfluid is a meme
>>5945131
>is that they're actually genderfluid
:D
>>5945131
I heard lots of hons say they'd never take hormones for reasons like that'd make them mentally unstable like women
Or their dicks couldn't get hard anymore
Tidied my desk :3
>>5945136
now do mine please
>>5945136
Hey, are you on hormones already or are you still on the waiting list ?
>>5945141
>waiting list
there are places that you need a waiting list for hrt?
>>5945135
>oh hon they're so DANGEROUS, you wouldn't want to put nasty chemicals like that in your body
>>5945141
Not on either yet :-( They decided to try and find other causes for my gender, other than y'know, me being trans gender. In short they don't believe me.
>>5945141
someone should just give this poor girl skittles already to save her from honhood
alternatively cut her balls off
>>5945143
Idk, for the NHS in england afaik
I have to wait too for hrt because i have massive waiting times for psych appointments and the endo
>>5945126
This hit me right in the feels....
>>5945129
like I said, far worse
>>5945133
>>5945134
as I never said I endorse the term you all need to calm down
>>5945152
Then they'll just whine or something. Welsh NHS sucks for anything like this
>>5945150
I hear Kayla is interested in castration. She could probably use someone to practice on.
Would a stealth trans girl hate having an obvious tranny femboy as a coworker because the obvious tranny might draw attention to the fact that she's trans herself?
>>5945152
Yea, I hate myself too
>>5945149
Order some mones while you wait. It might take a bit for them to rule out every other possibility because they want you to realize that being trans is the worst conceivable fate a person can suffer, rather than assisting you with moving on with your life.
Self-fulfilling prophecies are the best friend of regressives.
>>5945162
>Would a stealth trans girl hate having an obvious tranny femboy as a coworker because the obvious tranny might draw attention to the fact that she's trans herself?
yes
>>5945156
I'm not much better w.o. Makeup
>>5945157
Just do it, they can't punish you for it
>>5945162
I mean the old school definition of hon
You're ok :)
>>5945151
that's hella sad I'm sorry :(
my desk :3
>>5945094
You shut up we're cool I promise
>>5945172
Why do you keep your desk on the ceiling?
>>5945171
I'm self medding though
I'm not stupid
>>5945177
The iPad took the image upside down ;-;
There, corrected image
>>5945170
>looks like a girl to me
if anyone chimes in, come to australia and see the cis girls
>I'm not much better w.o. Makeup
I'm not on even on E yet just spiro for another 2 weeks but literal sugar pills won't fix this face
>>5945126
i dont even know why i made this but im happy with it
>>5943832
>>5943832
Please don't do this, suicide is never an option.
and besides.. I would miss you more than I already do.
>>5944815
+25 (white) -50 (female) +10 (bi) +10 trans(passable) +20 (US) +25 (able) +10 (affluent) +10 (tall, 5'9"), +10 (engineer) = 70. Woo, I'm privileged.
>>5945192
I'm a year on hormones and it didn't really fix my face
Looks better than before though
But i'll get ffs in august, so i hope that'll fix it
>>5945198
why are you replying to a post like that from yesterday night
>>5944815
-620 and I reached out to daedalus as I drowned in my arrogant pride for I flew too close to sun as I was warned not to; it twas not the fall that was my downfall but drowning in the seas I crashed into
>tfw you realize that nothing you can ever do will make you pass
>>5944507
You should have shopped the frog meme selfie onto her face senpai baka.
>he covered his face with his face, said "Oops!", and started giggling. "
ayyyyyyyyyy
how're you guys doing ?
>>5945200
>tall passable ftm engineer
Marry me desu
>>5944815
-470 until Friday, then -220. I'm finally getting out of the asylum for good.
>>5944815
35
Weee
Who else /neverbeengenderedfemale/ here
>>5945211
I'm replying on the off chance that she sees it because I know this person and I am freaking the everloving fuck out
>>5945215
> tfw you pass 100% but you still have the emotional depth of a puddle.
>>5944815
40 or -470, depending on who you ask
>>5945219
Until they see that was a big mistake
>>5945216
Pretty good. Doing my preop medical exams this week, getting out of the clinic on Friday. Also, I'm in love. And I have two more photo shoots before I leave to Thailand at the beginning of May.
>>5945226
Wanna trade lives? I'm not really too deep, but you can be a dwarf? There's not really any upsides for you.
>>5945217
> FtM.
Nope, MtF.
>>5945228
What have I done to you? It can't just be that you're envious of my looks. That, I can understand, but there has to be more...
>>5945235
Wow. You look better with bangs.
>>5945216
I tried googling keywords for this article, and saw nothing but transgender women getting sexually assaulted in facilities designated for men.
Like this immigration facility line:
"She told the guards about the lewd act but was allegedly told it was her fault for “pretending to be a woman and seducing him.”
Little sad now
>>5945228
Heheh
>>5945229
awesome :D
I'm really happy for you :3
>>5945234
Oh you said sex: female, you still have privilege from being born male shitlord ^_^
>>5945239
You mean, like this?
>>5945242
last time i talked to a psych was when i tried to get myself committed and he ended up telling me they didn't have any facilities that would take me because i was a man but had breasts and pretended to be a woman. beats getting raped i guess?
>>5945253
I'm born male but transitioned to female. Why would I have male privilege?
Finally today is my day off. I'm gonn try and go see batman superman. And if tht doesnt work out ill just watch gundam 00. Maybe I'll get really into gundam. I also wanna get into star trek.
>>5945255
Hmm. What was I thinking of?
Yeah, that's also a good pic. The longer swept bangs look great though. It makes my eyes follow down your forehead to your eyes then continue down past the side of your face.
I must have seen a pic of you from the other side. where there was more forehead.
My throat hurts
>>5945262
My life hurts
>>5945265
iktf.
>>5945265
Have you tried drugs?
>>5945260
Probably that one. Much more styling and no bangs. My forehead isn't too bad anyway.
urge to kill rising...
>>5945262
Deepthroat too hard?
me bored
timeline bread ?
>>5944815
>race
white
>sex
female
>orientation
lez
>gender
cis
>country
godtier yurop
>attractiveness
idk going to go with+15 since none of the fit
>religion
non
>disability
none
>size
normal
>status
middle
>profession
none
Total : -90
>>5945272
No, should I?
>>5945235
Don't take it too serious :)
>>5945275
>My forehead isn't too bad anyway
No, it's not, I was just caught off guard and had to comment/compliment.
>>5945276
Can't kill now, eating.
>>5945277
Kek probably chocked to much
>>5945276
Pls be me
>>5945258
like probably 14 or 15 years of male socialization, and oppurtunities during your most formative years, fucking check your privilege.
>>5945283
Yes. Acid molly shrooms are all great things
You stupid goddam trannies, sex means bio sex, not gender.
>>5945259
I want to both of those things with my fiancee, she wants me to watch Gundam (and I want to for sure) and we both wanna go see batmang
Maybe we could do the movie today ackshully
>>5945235
Marina is just a bitter hon
>>5945258
Its memes
>>5945294
>sex means bio sex
>what is srs
>>5945297
>Its memes
YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND MOOOOOOM
>>5945296
Yes :(
>>5945287
>>5945289
Adam grant me reprieve.
>>5945298
it's mutilating your sexual organ into a shitty facsimile of a vagina
>>5945294
We just love being faggots m80
>>5945299
3dank5you
>>5945298
>>what is srs
Hilarious.
>>5945294
our bio sex is neuter/none tho, I mean what else could be the definition of it than reproductive capabilities
>>5945313
trying to 'reverse' what people say to you doesn't work irl
>>5945298
Talking biological sex is a good way to start a shitstorm at home with both my mother and sister having undergone removal of the uterus and ovaries for medical reason. Actually, I think my sister is the most bitter about that notion. And she's cis.
>>5945313
Enjoy burning in hell :)
>>5945257
When I was sexually assaulted and had the husband living with me part time, there were no shelters for me, I didn't ask they were just like "you should go to a shelter to find safety and get support.... But there aren't any that would take you around here..."
>>5945320
don't encourage her
>>5945320
>believing in god let alone a retarded idea like hell
Kek retard alert
>>5945325
*tips fedora*
m'lady
>>5945303
>tfw you rise from the reprieve of sleep to the hell of reality
>>5945328
Dood, memes, lmaooooo
>>5945333
that's your tactic
you're not smart enough to argue about tranny shit
>tfw even amateur level bait you cast gets caught
It ain't easy bein G
> Tfw you dreamt about you and your entire extended family being murdered.
Fucking nightmares.
>>5945323
My sister was dealt a bad hand. PCOS and endometriosis. She's probably had more testosterone going through her system than I. Actually, her acne was so bad they put her on a small dose of cypro as a teen. And she has a much stouter silhouette than mine.
>>5945335
>Dood
T R I G G E R E D
check your pricladnge
>>5945338
Thumbs up bro you leet 4chains troller yo xD
>>5945339
Fun suff though
>>5945335
memes?
>>5945347
>that there is no need to say that I was trans tho
I thought youre intersex
>>5945336
How ? i don't really see how this could happen 2bh
hello
>>5945347
the details procedure itself is prima facie evidence of its nature
you're the kind of person who goes pro se into court and gets blown the fuck out trying to argue technicalities that don't exist
>>5945349
>>5945350
well yeah but he was talking about my vag and stuff
>>5945342
I thought you were my dood bro though, I'm sorry m'lady *tips memecap*
>>5945349
Lmaoooooo
>>5945359
*caps memetip*
>>5945349
DUDE
>>5945336
Good thing I'll never have the chance to. They'll obviously know I'm male once they see me.
>>5945360
>>5945353
oh feel free to point out those obvious evidence in nature
>uses latin phrases like it makes you special
quam pulchri occuli tibi sunt kayla
>>5945336
ok kiddo
>>5945349
Congrats on your engagement
>>5945368
>quam pulchri occuli tibi sunt kayla
OH GOD
youre so great I have no words
>>5945368
you're taking a dick
cutting it up
putting some ball skin in there
etc etc etc
for the procedure to have been done its materials must have been of a penis, so the resulting organ is not a vagina but a facsimile of such with a very small handful of its components
not using the latin phrase in this context makes it special, but you're desperately clinging to anything that you can mock
>tfw dankest memes are being posted
>>5945372
>ywn have a cager kill you while working
>>5944815
Exactly 0
>>5945369
So if something is going wrong and the doctor wonders if you have issues with your uterus, or your overies, or needs to halt your estrogen and prescribes blockers, or you end up with prostate cancer that he never checks for, you are just going to keep lying to him about your medical history?
Smart move, this is an extremely dangerous mental disease, please recognize it and leave a loved one to explain to him relevant medical history for you if you can't.
>>5945382
the transformation of tissue to some extent does not change its basic nature
try taking your hormones with a vaginal o-ring through all that epithelal tissue tho
Cheska help I woke up before 12 and I dont know what to do.
>>5945388
>lying
they know i'm a tranny tho
>>5945392
>the transformation of tissue to some extent does not change its basic nature
oh really ?
citation please
>try taking your hormones with a vaginal o-ring through all that epithelal tissue tho
funnily enough my gyn suggested that last time I had a check up
so either provide a citation for your claim or just stop
bye now
cya when you have some studies to back up your claims
>>5945400
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17992150
you're such a retard lala
>bye now
try to filter anon pal
>>5945392
You've inspired me to try and take acid through my vagina, someone please convince me this is a bad idea
So I came out to one parent (my dad) a few weeks ago.
I came out to my mom a long ass time ago (8 years ago) but repressed it and told her basically "nevermind, don't worry about it" after a few therapy sessions because I was scared. She accepted that and didn't make any connections to me becoming hugely religious immediately following.
My question is, how far would putting off telling her be too far?
I moved back in with my parents because my roommates crapped out on me. I don't think mom is going to kick me out because she loves me but she is very... traditional. I fear if I tell her she'll think the worst of me (I'm a sexual pervert who is going to get a kick out of being a man in a dress in public) or embrace it and at worst at least treat me differently and make snide remarks about how I can't be a girl because I don't like ___ or some shit. Basically, I see no good outcome from telling her. And if I do manage to tell her she's one of those people who you have to spell everthing out multiple times and who asks you the same questions later. (She's also the type of person to tell a depressed person "How can you be depressed? You have nothing to be depressed about.")
With Dad it was awkward as fuck but it was a one and done conversation.
Would it be really bad if I start HRT, move out in a few months (getting a trans roommate lined up) and just kind of let her "figure it out"?
just dropping in for a sec to say hi
hi mtfg ~
>>5945388
>Smart move, this is an extremely dangerous mental disease
you overestimate european doctors. most are too dumb to even know what a tranny exactly is.
I was in the ER for something 1,5 years ago, told him (a gyno) that I am a post op tranny, and he didnt understand it at all. asked me 3 times if I had my uterus removed.
also he did nothing to help me.
Id rather die than tell some incompetent clown that I am a mentally ill man in a dress
>>5945399
That's fine, as long as you know when you change doctors or go to an ER to explain that you transitioned, you can put you're an otherkin chuthulu hound.
Some people actively advocate for telling doctors their sex is female after srs, and this is retarded.
>>5945404
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17992150
here
it's basically the same as putting it on your dick
oh hello
>>5945406
I hate
>>5945403
>one study
>9 people
Alesandrescu, D., et. al. (1996). Neocolpopoiesis with split-thickness skin graft as a surgical treatment of vaginal agenesis: Retrospective review of 201 cases. American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology, 174(1), 131-138.
Fawcett, D.W., et. al. (1994). Textbook of histology (12th ed.). New York: Chapman & Hall.
Masters, W.H. & Johnson, V.W. (1961, May-June). The artificial vagina: Anatomic, physiologic, psychosexual function. Western Jourmnal of Surgery, Obstetrics, & Gynecology,69,192-212.
Pierce, G.W., et. al. (1956, July). Changes in skin flap of a constructed vagina due to environment. American Journal of Surgery, 92,4-8.
Sherfey, M. (1973). The nature and evolution of female sexuality. New York: Random House.
thanks for providing something tho :)
>filter
you do realize you can just ignore people till they provide a citation without filtering them (unless you are autistic tho)
>>5945394
I think she's showering right now, she said she was going to. I'm at class so km not sure though
>tfw will never afford FFS because high living costs sap your income so much
>>5945423
>1956
>1996
>1994
>1961
>1973
in any case, none of these studies have anything to do with the nature of the neovaginal tissue
you don't even understand what a 'type' of tissue is, you probably think it's a social construct or whatever
why are you so stupid lala
When will the longing stop?
>>5945412
>putting LSD on your dick
This doesn't convince me that it's a bad idea though ;~;
>>5945427
cool animal
>>5945396
>>5945439
idk anything about psychoactive drugs but it bothers me how advanced medical technology interacts with degenerate ways of living
do whatever you want i guess
>>5945404
No don't do it
Pls
Definitely don't tell us how it goes
Stop
I mean it
>>5945405
Up to you, share if it makes you happy or if you want the attention (good or bad). Don't believe that you're morally obligated to tell people everything about yourself, your mom has things she hasn't mentioned to you, trust.
>>5945407
But we are
>>5945356
haha great moves ethan
KEEP IT UP
>>5945359
dood
>>5945364
WE
>>5945370
thankies, i really do appreciate that
>>5945394
squeeze one out?
that's what i always do when i wake up early
>>5945435
>studies show that tissue origin doesn't matter and it changes according to environment,hormones and so on
>nuhu
you know you can't block out science
no matter how hard you try
but hey if you are right feel free to explain why my gyn suggested that I take my E via vagina, how I lubricate and why it changes taste like my gfs based on food ?
>>5945404
That sounds like a terrible idea, have a trip sitter first.
>>5945441
Is it better to mask the pain with hate? Or to expose your weak heart?
Why be weak and sad
>>5945446
Who proposed to whom?
>>5945445
That helps, thanks. You're right.
I'll put off telling her. Eventually she'll figure it out but eh.
>>5945423
>>5945435
>>5945448
oh, wait, I read that wrong; there's actually a single study that shows that, based on cytologic analysis
the problem is that that cytologic analysis was undertaken in 1953, before the development of the acid-shift stain method
>feel free to explain why my gyn suggested
you're
in
europe
'why does my gyn think i can get pregnant' wouldn't be unbelievable
>>5945423
What anon is saying is that the vagina is epithelial tissue, and the surgical neovagina is smooth muscle tissue
>>5945455
When it's all your fault what's the point in lashing out against others, when you can lash out against the person whose fault it is?
>>5945464
look, i'm not passing judgement on you or whatever. just do whatever you want, i don't care if you live or die
>>5945446
That picture gets me every time
>>5945463
Sorry for posting naked penises on a blue board
>>5945448
Please ask your gynaecologist to undertake the schiff acid-shift stain method on the cells in your vaginal region before taking medical advice from her.
>>5945456
I proposed to her duh
I'm taller and have more muscles so I get to be the boy
I thought a dick was made of analogous stuff and it just an outie vag?? Idk anything about biology @_@
>>5945476
not rly, it's muscle tissue
ur thinking of the clitoris
>>5945465
Because it feels good...;_;
>>5945460
>you're
>in
>europe
aha
your study was done in europe too
so I guess I can discard it as well ?
still no explanation for my lubrication and change in taste based on food
also its not penile tissue
>>5945463
>>5945471
and what I am saying is that tissue changes over time due to factors
>>5945473
gladly
while I'm at it , can you explain why my vaginal flora is in healthy natal range ?
>>5945476
audi vaj?
>>5945476
Nope, a vagina is like a mouth, it has to stretch for a baby, they can actually grow you one now on a lattice with a mouth swab and Graft it in (only done on cis women so far)
A penis has to become erect so it's muscle tissue, but it's analogous to the clitorus.
>>5945486
Awooodi
>>5945488
I don't think the penis is actually muscle, and even if it were, the part that has erections gets thrown away.
>>5945480
>feels good
Nah, they don't deserve any hate from me.
>>5945492
>thrown away
What a waste
There are starving children in Africa
All these privileged transies cutting of their dick meat and throwing it away
>>5945488
>they can actually grow you one now on a lattice with a mouth swab and Graft it in
http://kinseyconfidential.org/lab-grown-vaginas/
That's fucking wild.
This page says it needs to use some kind of present vaginal tissue to grow more, but I imagine there's ways to cheat this.
>>5945483
>tissue changes over time
No, this is impossible in the human genome, animals that do things like this do so in extreme ways, this would fundamentally change what we think we know about human anatomy and be the hugest discovery of the 21st century.
>>5945502
Currently yes, but the people that made it theorized that it could be done with samples from your mouth, non of their test subjects had the issue of having absolutely 0 vaginal tissue though.
>>5945504
feel free to link me to some studies
>>5945498
>Let's just feed these kids cockmeat sandwhiches
>>5945505
I can't imagine this being picked up though. It seems like current SRS is built upon previous methods of SRS. This is just too radically different.
>>5945505
I wonder how much it would cost to get them to try it on a trans girl.
>>5945508
Now you're thinking
Let's feed the homeless one cockmeat sandwich at a time
>>5945508
Also tbbq we have a cockmeat sandwich ready for you :3
>>5945507
Just to follow your logical chain, this would be like asking me for studies showing we can't regenerate limbs in Ethiopian Eskimos.
If I am a skinny male, does this mean I would make a skinny female? Or would estrogen help me put on a bit of weight?
>>5945527
estrogen makes u gain 40 pounds
>>5945527
I've lost weight on HRT from losing muscle. I'm trying to gain weight now
>>5945527
It'll probably help you to put on some weight
But it most likely won't change you fundamentally
>>5945527
estrogen barely changes your weight.
its a meme
>>5945525
uhm no
to follow my chain :
tissue changes based on environment and hormonal levels over time
for example if you move tissue to location X and put tissue Y next to it it will adapt to the new environment over time while it heals
nobody is talking "regenerate an arm" levels
idiot
>>5945527
Didn't change my weight at all
Calories in calories out tho . You can be as fat or skinny as you want to be
>>5945532
>>5945534
I can't imagine each pound of muscle is being replaced perfectly with a pound of fat. Women have a higher body fat percentage but muscle is denser than fat and you lose muscle on estrogen.
That reminds me, when you see calorie suggestions women tend to have a lower calorie count. Is that solely because women generally have a lower weight they want to maintain or is there something more to this hormonally and because of less muscle to maintain?
>>5945534
>estrogen barely changes your weight.
explain pic related
100% E caused and not only eating pizza and ketchup
I swear
honestly
>>5945552
Kayla recently went on progesterone and admitted she gained like 20 lbs on it. That should explain the double chin.
>>5945552
ps. : not an attack on kayla just legit curious about an explanation
keep your chins up kayla
I want to cook Kayla a yummy pizza but instead of marinara I'll use catsup :3
>>5945560
I just choked on my drink in class because of you
>2:48
>tfw you get a new record at the gym and your dysphoria gets temporarily btfo and held at bay thanks to adrenalin and test for the rest of the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_GzKCGCDsI
There are worse things in life than suffering from depression if you aren't lifting weights right?
>At the theater to see batman superman
>they tell me the showing i came for is a mothers matanee
>oh fuck no
So now here i am waiting an hour for the next showing.
>>5945295
Good luck. Gundam are kinda cool. Two of my favorite anime are TTGL and Code Geass, both heavily inspired by gundam, so I'll probably get super into it.
>>5945550
I pretty much weigh the same but i have a lot less muscle and more fat than before
On estrogen you generally lose muscle over time which leads to a liwer calorie count
>>5945498
I donated my testies to science, it's not entirely a waste.
>>5945550
Women generally have less muscle, have slightly lower metabolic rates, and are smaller in stature. I find that for weight loss, recommended calorie intakes for ciswomen are too low for me to maintain, I usually pick a number somewhere between what's recommended for men and women.
>>5945412
>sample size of 9
lmao
If a therapist says on their website that they specialise in "LGBTIQ mental health issues" , does this mean that they are a real gender therapist?
>>5945570
do they actually have any use tranny balls
I've been told my taste in girls is really androgynous. Idk i think thats sorta silly, but i do likr girls with strong jawlines and stuff. Its cool to discover new things about yourself.
>>5945575
How did you not love code geass when it showed on [as]? Idgi man. Watch ttgl you'll probably love that shit too, smart mecha anime are the bomb.
>>5945539
Post soles.
>>5945572
That's what hrt is supposed to do yes. Depending on your goals you might want to exercise certain parts of the body to help them get the right size/shape if you're worried about that
>and a slim chest and back.
jelly :;-;
>>5945578
I believe they were being used for the control group in a study for treatment of testicular cancer.
>>5945579
Never watched as, too busy outside and working and sleeping shit
>>5945572
yes, but it will take a while and also depend on your weight
I got bewbs pretty fast, but I dont have enough fat fot thighs or hips
>>5945572
I got pretty curvy desu
I'm still too manly imo but it's much better
anyone ever notice how Aldnoah Zero and Code Geass are really, really similar show? Personally, I prefer A.Z more from a current perspective but I do respect that CG was for the genre.
>>5945576
I would say that's right. That's what my therapist's psychologytoday page said:
"SOME of the areas I focus on are: Relationships, anxiety/depression, Self esteem, LGBTQI, Personal growth, Parenting/family. "
She doesn't specialize in it or anything but she's very knowledgable, has lots of trans lgbt patients and is in with the local community.
>>5945586
I feel bad for you. Toonami and adult swim were like the best part of my childhood. It's good cheska has good taste.
>>5945592
Havent seen aldnoah zero. I've heard comparison tho. I really cant imagine liking an anime more than i like code geass tho. I watch it like twice a year in its entirety still. It makes me cry a LOT.
>>5945576
Should be ok
But my therapist is specialised in trans issues/ only takes trans patients and somtimes i feel like he's into the whole thing too much
Like i miss out on some things
>>5945600
mine only knew hons, lol
apart from the signatures I got, this was just a waste of time for me
>>5945596
That is is, she's getting me back up to speed. Don't feel bad though! I know lite of other stuff because of how I grew up. I can fix cars and drive anything, I could build a house on my own, minus some of the plumbing anyhow, I know a shit ton of survival skills and a boatload of other shit.
>>5945609
Mine works with younger people too
I mean the first 2 appointments i had till now were kinda ok, but i don't reale feel like i need it
Especially later in transition
But unfortunately i need the stuff for name change and srs
>>5945596
I can't cry at all.
I think I prefer the numbness. I don't want to transition and lose this.
This state of being.
>>5945633
Whatever you feel you would be more comfortable with, really.
The stereotype is male therapists are more critical and female therapists are more likely to give you a letter if that's what you're after.
>>5945537
It's called metaplasia, you're saying that metaplasia happens in adult humans without it being triggered by cancer or Dna altering viruses.
You're advocating for vaginal flora based metaplasia
Hey, anybody have experience with sugaring for epilation? I have pretty sensitive skin, so waxing/nair/repetitive shaving all give me this ugly ass rash up and down my legs. Like waxing, but no pain, using non-toxic shit that's super cheap...honestly this sounds almost too good to be true.
>>5944835
>Minus 10
If only I was white
>>5943848
thank you
i got hollowpoints too for maximum brainstem destruction
goodbye girls
