there's a ton about workout stuff regarding MtF, but what about diet?
post best diets, pre and post HRT
>>5918477
Tons of pineapple.
>>5918477
same as always, insta soups and candy
>>5918544
Why?
>>5918779
Because he wants to slurp tasty cummies out of your ladydicc senpai
>>5918779
>Why?
Not him but.
>2016
>Not knowing this bit of wisdom
>shiggerty giggerty do
Stay pleb.
http://www.yourtango.com/2014208925/oral-sex-blow-job-road-test-how-food-drinks-affect-taste-semen
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/200911/how-improve-the-taste-semen
>>5918477
vegetarian/vegan, with lots of soy and leafy green veggies
>>5918795
Oh, I knew this. I thought that he meant it had some benefits for transitioning.
>>5918814
>Oh, I knew this. I thought that he meant it had some benefits for transitioning.
So you think having sweet spooge isn't a benefit in general? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>5918477
I lost a pretty good amount of weight with a no carb diet
It actually made me eat less and less while always feeling kinda full and i didn't really gain anything back after stopping except 2 kg water weight
It's only recomendable with hrt since it probably raises your t a bit
>>5918477
>ton of workout stuff
last i checked there was very little solid info on workoht OR diet
pre and post hrt diets are very relevant for me though since im pre and beed to shape up
>>5918974
I am pre Hrt too an very interested in tips. I lost 4kg (from 73 to 69) in 2 months by simply eating less but now I am stuck.
The main bodypart where I want to lose fat is my belly, but even with targeted cardio I cant see any improvement :(
>>5918477
u will never actually be a female
>>5919040
you will die
>>5919096
one opinion
>>5919113
nah. facts and opinions arent the same thing degeny
>>5918821
You literally stop producing semen after like a month of HRT.
It would do essentially nothing
>>5919187
i heard that is only a case by case thing though. like even people who get their testicales cut out still produce some sort of fluids because of their prostate
>>5919024
targeted cardio is really a meme desu....you can rarget your abs and obliques with apecific calisthenics and even weighted exercise but cardio burns calories all over. try cutting down on fat intake not just calories. like say you eat 1000 calories worth of bread and it has 50g of total fat and 15g of saturated fat, do rice instead and cut it to 10g of total fat and 0g of saturated fat
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>>5919187
>You literally stop producing semen after like a month of HRT.
>It would do essentially nothing
I don't want to hear your excuses. :( You are a dirty normie who is probably kissing grills and going out of the house.
>Filthy dumb normie scum dot tiff
>>5919167
Just go away dipshit.
My trans diet is puking after all my meals
>>5920583
Ahh, nothing quite like slowly eroding your throat and teeth by washing them in stomach acid three times a day.
>>5918477
Who /keto/ here?
>>5919096
#rekt
>>5918477
Okay so it's time to break the pattern and actually give some advice.
Carrots, lots of carrots. These will alter your skin-tone to be a little more orange and make you look healthy. Healthy is sexy.
Avocadoes is great for smooth skin.
Collagen-supplementation makes your skin milky smooth as well.
Coconut water is good due to the minerals and electolytes which causes your body to retain more water which in turn gives you a fuller looking skin and general plumpness. It's also great because it's antiinflammatory which keeps your belly flat.
Ginger and curcumin is also highly antiinflammatory.
Best of luck.
>>5921924
keep up the cardio and cut down on the fat/sugars as much possible
try jump rope or jumping jacks for cardio though, it's one of the best you can do
>>5921924
you have to eat less fatty
>>5922037
>>5919226
So basically:
eat a lot of vegetables
Dont eat fat or sugar
How should that look like on a daily basis?
Normally I eat like this
6 am two slices of toast with butter
1 pm whatever is eatable at University canteen
8pm maybe two slices of toast with butter again
I mostly drink water, eat a hand full of sweets every day and drink a smoothie every second day.
I definitely could cut the sweets, what could I eat on bread? Nearly everything has fat and or sugar.
>>5924357
try eating the bread with soup to dip in instead of butter. there's alot of fat in butter
here's what i'd do on your schedule
>drink a glass of soy milk and one piece of toast
>only aim for steamed veggies or beans or potatoes and if they only have meat go for fish
>beans and rice with soy sauce/hot sauce
all inbetween snacking done with fresh fruits and make sure the smoothie is soy based not dairy
>>5919187
you stop producing sperm. not semen.
>>5925746
you stop producing sperm. not semen..
>>5925752
You stop producing semen, it's just small amounts of clear watery fluid
>>5925759
and even that's only sometimes, like if you go weeks without orgasming. Most of the time I orgasm I don't ejaculate anything.
>>5925759
that's seminal fluid still. its volume is reduced and it doesn't have sperm in it but it's still semen you goon.
>>5925788
you're just one person.
>>5925830
Except that's what normally happens.
You realize that porn is just fantasy right?
>>5918477
>post best diets, pre and post HRT
/fit/ reporting, been studying food, and dieting on amateur level for about 5yrs now. Best diet completely depends on your goals.
If you are trying to MAINTAIN or LOSE weight:
- The most important thing to remember is that it is all about caloric intake vs output, no exercise burns more calories than a fork putdown
- Determine your TDEE with a BMR calculator. Just put in your stats, and do not add any bonuses for activity. If you are cutting eat 500 - 1000 Cal below that number, if you are trying to maintain then eat at that number. If you find after a couple of months that you are losing more weight than you are comfortable with then you can always increase your caloric consumption.
If you are trying to GAIN weight:
- The advice is basically the same as above except inverse. Determine your TDEE and then eat above it between 500 - 1000 Calories per day
- Gaining weight is easiest by using high carb stuff like cake, pies, or doughnuts. Make sure you do 1-2hrs of cardio 4-5x per week so that your fat gain is proportional and not all on your waistline.
General Tips:
- Cut any liquid that is not plain water out of your diet.
- Stay away from grains. Eat minimally processed meats, fruits, vegetables, and nuts when at all possible this will give you optimal digestion, adequate vitamin/mineral intake, and stable blood sugar
- If you are cutting or maintaining stay away from grain based sweets (cookies, cakes, etc) and eat things like chocolate or candy coated nuts instead
- If you have problems not feeling full, add more vegetables, literally fill your stomach with broccoli, spinach, or kale until you no longer have the urge to eat.
- Physical activity suppresses appetite
- Dont follow meme diets (vegan, vegetarian, keto, paleo, etc) most "program" diets are deficient in one area or another. Nothing can beat a correctly portioned diet of minimally processed meats, fruits, vegetables, and nuts in the long term.
>>5926042
(cont)
- Prepare your food in advance. You are much more likely to stick with your diet if you have your food at hand and ready to go. If that means cooking your meat once or twice per week and wrapping fresh fruit and vegetables up every few days then do it, get it done before you go to bed so that everything is ready to go for the next day. Preparation is the foundation of success.
- Consider changing to an Intermittent Fasting eating pattern, basically eat 2 large meals per day, to help control cravings and overeating.
- Dont bring items not on your diet into your home. Simply put dont buy stuff at the store that is not in your diet. Dont take leftovers from events that are not in your diet, etc. Its a lot easier to never eat cookies if you never have any cookies to begin with.
- If you are temporarily forced to eat outside of your diet make smart choices. Most grocery stores sell whole rotisserie chickens and pre-made salads, most fast food places sell salads or side salads, remove the bun from your burger, etc.
>>5919024
>targeted cardio
>main bodypart where I want to lose fat
Thats not how it works anon body fat loss is proportional and not targetable. Eat less, move more this is always the answer. You burn less calories at 69kg than 73kg you will eventually have to lower your intake to continue losing weight.
>>5922037
>this is shit tier meme advice
There is no superfood that by itself will have any specific notable and observable effect on your health. Eat less, move more, focus on things that fit into your diet, not specific foods that you need for your diet.
>muh ginger and curcumin
GTFO of here with that shit
>>5924357
> 8 pieces of bread per day and 1 meal
> why do I look like shit?
Your diet is almost all grain, and carb based of course you will look like shit. Eat fresh faggot.
>>5925036
>soy milk
Wasting money on memes, dont do this people.
>b-b-but muh soy milk smoothie
Never gonna make it 2bh faggot
>>5925849
I don't watch tranny porn yo. And just because it's usual for seminal fluid to be reduced, and often cease being produced, doesn't mean it absolutely doesn't happen.
you even said yourself
>Most of the time I orgasm I don't ejaculate anything.
>Most of the time
not all of the time. so you still are producing seminal fluids albeit to a lesser degree.
let's look at this statement again
>>5919187
>You literally stop producing semen after like a month of HRT.
>It would do essentially nothing
are you prepared to concede this was an oversimplification?
>>5926042
>minimally processed meats, fruits, vegetables, and nuts
Isn't it literally the paleo meme diet?
>>5926101
>Isn't it literally the paleo meme diet?
Paleo is the most legit of all of the fad diets, but the biggest problem is that it has an ideology behind it that is retarded. Stuff like eating grass fed only beef, raw almonds activated in water, and not being able to eat stuff like BBQ sauce on your ribs now and again is fucking retarded.
The core concepts of Paleo are good, the fanatical ideology espoused by some of its proponents is retarded and unnecessary to be healthy and in good shape.
Whereas say for example with Veganism the core concept of the diet itself is antithetical and does not comport with the type of animal that human beings are. That shit is purely retarded, Paleo is just slightly retarded.
>>5918799
Buuuut avoid coconuts as well as seeds and nuts in general as well as derivatives thereof (like tahini) as lots these can actually increase T when on a vegan diet. Also soy lowering T is a myth unless one eats those soy subsitutes like all day every day.
>>5926132
>Veganism
Not a diet, though, I think it's more like an ethical/moral stance. Kind of like, say, not buying clothes made from child labour would be an ethical position and not a fashion statement.
>raw almonds activated in water
Why is this retarded? Almonds are seeds; soaking them wakes 'em up and makes the nutrition more bioavaliable. I mean I've never done it myself but it doesn't sound too crazy.
>>5924357
Breaking-the-pattern-anon here.
I never adviced eating no carbs and no dietary style in particular either, I'm just saying the stuff I listed works well for its specified purposes.
But yes, soy-products works for estrogen. If you're pre-HRT you can always also supplement with pueraria mirifica, it's pretty effective actually.
As for calories I wouldn't outright avoid carbohydrates, just make sure they're not empty ones like sugary stuff. Health is sexy. ;)
>>5927099
>unless you eat soy everyday
you say that likes it's difficult or something
most products use soy based oils and flours and even without them it's not difficult to eat a handfull of soy beans and a cup of soy milk everday.
>>5926132
>he doesn't even activate his almonds
>>5928537
This is only relevant for faggots who eat processed foods.
>>5928804
you mean most of earths population? dumbass, even people that live in farm states/provinces have to deal with processing. you can't escape the beast and its machine so easy as you make it sound unless maybe you're some SOHO hipster with rich baby boom parents
>>5929974
>you mean most of earths population?
`Most of asia and india eats 95 % whole foods, and can easily skip the last 5 % if they want to. You can also do this, as dried rice and legumes are cheap a f, as is any vegetable or fruit in season. Stop using excuses you fat fuck.
>>5930117
i'm not fat at all and niether is asia/india a majority of the planet idiot, and get real if you think asia isn't consuming mostly soy products processed or not. stop being a waste of space, or atleast make your purpose here different other than shilling easily debunkable baseless claims.
>>5930117
I can second this stuff being easily and cheaply doable. It'll suck at first but once you learn what to buy and how to quickly prepare it you'll wonder why you didn't make the change years ago.
Buy frozen vegetables if you tend to let things spoil or just can't be bothered with washing, peeling and chopping. Don't buy frozen potato products though. Those nearly always have bad things added.
If you can't be bother with checking for rocks or cooking it canned beans are more costly and often have preservatives added but highly convenient. Even with the preservatives they're still far better for you than the typical heavily processed western diet.
>>5930288
Don't dismiss this due to his rudeness anon. I live in burgerland and in the south of all sections. My state is one of the fattest in the country. On top of that I don't have much money. Eating healthy for cheap is very doable. Just about any large grocery store will be stocked with everything you need.
I just try to keep my meats limited to poultry and fish. Also try to drink less soda and more water.
>>5930327
Fresh potatoes are dirt cheap too, and easy af to make. You don't even really need to peel them.
>>5930288
>niether is asia/india a majority of the planet idiot
>China alone over a billion human beans
>India getting close to Chinese levels.
>Not to mention the dozen of other countries that make up Asia.
Wew lad
>>5930512
by that logic most of the human population is muslims or christian or jewish since individualy they carry over 1.5+ billion of the population.
>>5930327
i'm not dismissing that eating healthy is cheap and doable, i'm telling him/her off for being a fagget. i live in a farm state so i know it's easy to do but i'd be lying to say it's not easy to get your daily soy intake which was the original grief
>>5933093
.... yes
How important is it to change your diet on HRT?
Like do I really need to avoid alcohol and potassium rich foods on Spiro? How do you even know what did is high or low on potassium??
>>5933662
>How do you even know what did is high or low on potassium??
>Like do I really need to avoid alcohol
Alcohol will definetly not harm feminisation. It will help lower test levels.
>>5933662
>potassium
High potassium = muscle spasms
Your heart is a muscle.
Don't eat bananas.
>>5919187
i've been on 4 months but still shoot massive loads
what am i doing wrong
>>5930117
but Rice tastes like fucking dry hair, how the fuck do you eat that shit?
>>5934695
git gud in th kitchen desu, baka
>>5918897
low carb diets are horrible
all the weight you lose is instantly replaced when your body gets carbs again
>>5934746
... no
Low carb prevents insulin spike which helps curb appetite. It's losing weight on easy mode.
As long as you control yourself when easing off the low carb then there's no reason for you to suddenly balloon out. Getting back on carbs will on the other hand cause you to retain more water weight. Is this what you mean by the weight being 'instantly' replaced? Because if it is then you haven't lost any weight you have just dehydrated your body for a period of time.
>>5934676
We can't really know unless you tell us your prescription. Hopefully your endo wasn't crap.
>>5934897
>endo
>prescription
lmao
self-medding that dose of 200mg Spiro and 6mg Estro everyday
i'm not lucky enough to be born in a country where people are aware trannies exist
>>5934902
Well, that's better than an endo. Are you taking blood tests? Do you smoke anything at all?
>>5934907
Yeah i haven't done any blood tests
i smoke cigs with high nicotine concentrations
trying to quit, if it's tobacco that's the problem i can quit ez but if it's the nicotine i will have some bad problems
>>5935022
That's definitely it, smoking nicotine or THC apparently even in moderate amounts basically negates HRT for some reason.
Every time someone asks why their HRT isn't working, it's because they smoke. I'm not sure if you could switch to vaping and be fine though. Regardless, quitting would be in your best interest for a multiple of reasons :P
>>5935032
Also, I should mention that you should get some blood tests to avoid fucking up your body. Hormones are dangerous chemicals to play around with.
Here's a few links to stuff that you might be interested in:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zZQyrinhLsl2FWY9XI_bk3RtqSP94a8h-ZFvYBzcfIE/edit#gid=0
https://web.archive.org/web/20120220164141/http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones#Micronised_progesterone
And the mtfg also has some good info in the pastebin
>>5935032
i vape a lot as of recently, but i think i get even more nicotine that way. Gotta quit this shit somehow
my HRT is working tho, i have a little bit of breast growth and definitely have some fat movement, which i think is pretty gud at 5-ish months consider i used to jack off 10 times a day before and had body hair in places there wasn't even meant to be any (gross stuff) and i'm quite old (18)
So yeah, it's just the fapping once a day or once every second day and cumming lots that's worrying me.
>>5935037
Already read both of these i think, and most of Mtfg pastebin stuff, before even starting HRT
can't do blood tests right now, but gonna do as soon as i can, even though by then i'll be like a year into HRT but yeah, my situation is not the best.
>>5935032
I'm going to need some kind of source man
>>5935254
Not a source, just something I've noticed happening over and over. Feel free to doubt me, but if you're in this situation I would say try to quit and see if it works, and even if it doesn't, you're still better off than you were before.
I went from 199 - 155~ pounds in around 4 months by cutting out all soda, junk food, eating less, and counting calories like crazy. I also avoided protein when I could. It also helps that I have a fast metabolism. I went to the gym about 5 days a week, 1~2 hours each visit, and I mainly did light cardio. You just need self-control - the results will definitely be worth it.
>>5935032
THC thing is wrong
I smoke weed every day and have hormone levels in normal female ranges, T on the lower side
>>5937713
Maybe its just nicotine, or the people who smoked weed also smoked cigarettes then
